1. [Steph's Simple]
   
   1. Blankets are too restricted... refine them to something like this? (in example: 00:22:754 (3))
      
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2. [Fairy]
   
   1. 00:00:754 (1) - You can slightly curve kick sliders
      
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   2. 00:03:754 (2) - ^
      
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   3. 00:17:254 (1,2) - ^
      
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   4. 00:27:754 (2) - ^
      
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   5. 00:32:754 (1,2,1,2) - ^
      
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   6. 00:46:754 (1,2,3,1) - Curve it
      
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   7. 00:52:754 (1,2,3,4) - Rearrange wihout stack?
      
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3. [Sword]
   
   1. 00:17:254 (1,2,3,4) - It doesn't flow as a back and forth, though
      
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   2. 00:35:754 (1,2,3) - Why not completing 00:32:754 (1,2,3,4,1,2) ?
      
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   3. 01:46:754 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You can avoid longer stacks...
      
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4. [Dream]
   
   1. 00:32:629 (1) - 00:33:629 (4) - quite lonely and over nothing... delete?

cirno- wrote:

General
Easy combo colors are different than the other 3 diffs. Also, I don't like the red. Maybe make it light gray? i think light blue will be even better, will apply that and fix colours on easy when i get the update~

Fairy

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New Combos
You had too many NC's so I messed around and did this:
00:01:754 (2) - NC
00:02:754 (1) - Remove NC
00:04:754 (1) - ^
00:05:754 (1) - NC
00:06:754 (1) - Remove NC
00:10:754 (1) - ^
00:12:754 (1) - ^
00:13:754 (2) - NC
00:14:754 (1) - Remove NC
00:20:754 (1) - ^
00:21:754 (2) - NC
00:22:754 (1) - Remove NC
00:25:254 (1) - ^
00:26:754 (1) - ^
00:27:754 (3) - NC
00:28:754 (1) - Remove NC
00:40:754 (1) - ^
00:44:754 (1) - ^
00:48:754 (1) - ^
00:56:754 (1) - ^
00:58:254 (5) - NC
00:58:754 (1) - Remove NC
01:00:754 (1) - ^
01:04:754 (1) - ^
01:09:254 (1) - ^
01:12:754 (1) - ^
01:16:754 (1) - ^
01:26:754 (1) - ^
01:30:754 (1) - ^
01:32:254 (4) - NC
01:36:754 (1) - Remove NC
01:37:754 (5) - NC
01:38:754 (1) - Remove NC
01:42:754 (1) - ^
i applied the above combo suggestions in a different way; you had NC being placed on the 3rd beat of every 2 measures, i tweaked it around and did NC on the first beat of every 2 measures instead. That fits my hitsounding patterns better imo (except at 00:32:754 (1), the pattern i had there fits another combo setup)

00:09:754 (1) - Make wavy ok

Sword and Dream are both mapped good. NC's are good in those. I really enjoyed playing dream. thanks for the appreciation~

GL

gdeath wrote:

Good job. Just one point, I would silence the last spinner.
/me shoots a star~

Steph's Simple

00:11:754 (1) - You should silence this note too, since you silenced the one before
00:19:754 (4) - New combo for consistency
00:29:504 (4) - ^
01:45:504 (4) - ^
01:35:754 (4) - ^
00:30:754 (7) - Blanket could be better IMO.
01:46:754 (7) - ^
00:49:754 (5) - New combo?

Some parts sound a bit loud.. maybe decrease some parts by 5-10%

[Steph's Simple]
Blankets are too restricted... refine them to something like this? (in example: 00:22:754 (3))

AR3? I'll try it. That possibly works.
01:22:754 (3) - Seemed like you had a pattern going. Add finish on first hit. I think that custom finish is awesome for this kiai time!
01:26:754 (3) - ^
01:28:754 (3) - ^
01:30:754 (3) - ^
01:32:754 (5) - Finish on both hits

Steph's Simple
00:09:004 - 没用到的绿线
00:29:504 (1,2) - 改滑条? 要吗？两个点应该也不错吧……
00:38:254 - 没用到的绿线
01:56:504 - 没用到的绿线

Banana wrote:

Hi Banana here from Chinese Beatmap Club

General

音效上面感觉搭配有点奇怪，SC1的finish持续时间比较短感觉用做clap或者whistle比较合适，但是现在是当作finish在用，出现频率什么的...clap又是一般用做finish的音效..
我的建议是现在的finish音效改成whistle然后把音效文件用cooledit之类的软件把音量调到大概一半再做具体修改
然后全部白线（white tick）放满现在的clap音效
然后finish另找 个人比较喜欢现在的搭配。。。finish是专为鼓点用的，这个音乐也比较适合spam现在的clap， 还得考虑到太鼓谱的效果

Dream

->AR7? bpm不高AR8有点高了 改回去了
00:00:754 (1,2,3,4,5) - 开场一个star pattern jump，这么放也没问题但是放开始有点奇怪，开场音乐给我的感觉是顺着或者之字形的，并不适合放角度很小的跳，建议是像这样 puush悲剧了。。。鉴于我个人喜欢小角度跳，折中放三角吧
00:39:754 (4) - 这边开始的whistle音可以先确定一小节，然后一或两个长白线一个循环，然后音效就会很有节奏。比如这边是(4,5)的whistle，下一节就是(1,2)，1是加尾巴上。这里的音效主要是跟笛子和重音下的，所以每节都不同
01:19:504 (2) - 每一小节的这个位置可以加whistle，跟着曲子来的 这里的whistle也是主要跟笛子，太多whistle有些吵
01:52:754 (1) - 提前1/2结束？如果准备改的话我重新拉了一下，（主要是剑柄向里面有点奇怪

SPOILER

mine: 232,382,112754,6,0,B|244:304|244:304|173:308|173:308|162:285|162:285|176:264|176:264|240:272|240:272|196:76|196:76|256:0|256:0|316:76|316:76|272:272|272:272|336:264|336:264|348:288|348:288|332:308|332:308|268:304|268:304|280:385,1,1120,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

yours: 232,384,112754,6,0,B|232:308|232:308|144:316|144:316|164:284|164:284|144:252|144:252|232:260|232:260|216:68|216:68|256:0|256:0|296:68|296:68|280:260|280:260|368:252|368:252|348:284|348:284|368:316|368:316|280:308|280:308|280:384,1,1200,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

示意图 kk改了，多谢~（稍微修改了一下，剑柄那里可能rankability有些问题

Sword
嗯 dream难度里面有把剑 sword居然没有（slap normal里面放那种slider会被喷死的orz
00:52:504 (3) - 指向下一个note或者干脆竖直着 改了

Fairy
00:03:754 (2) - 做个弧包住下一个note的开头？这个主要竖着搭配00:02:754 (1)
00:38:254 - 没用到的绿线 删了

good luck

1. Source应该是"Chinese Paladin4"吧(http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%99% ... B%E5%88%97)? Pal4只是个简称可以放到tag里面去

1. 00:25:004, 00:25:254, 00:25:504 - 没用的绿线
2. 00:29:504 (1,2) - 这个换成slider吧, 感觉简单难度里突然来这个二连打会对新手来说有点难掌握
3. 00:38:754 - 01:17:254 - 这一长段完全没加音效啊D:
4. 01:45:504 (1,2) - 换slider更好

Breeze wrote:

[General]

1. Source应该是"Chinese Paladin4"吧(http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BB%99% ... B%E5%88%97)? Pal4只是个简称可以放到tag里面去 改了

Breeze wrote:

[General]

[Steph's Simple]

1. 00:25:004, 00:25:254, 00:25:504 - 没用的绿线 为了保证Timing一致^C/^V的直接不良后果……搞定了
2. 00:29:504 (1,2) - 这个换成slider吧, 感觉简单难度里突然来这个二连打会对新手来说有点难掌握 好吧……
3. 00:38:754 - 01:17:254 - 这一长段完全没加音效啊D: 抱歉我一直对Hitsound没什么感觉……加了
4. 01:45:504 (1,2) - 换slider更好 最后一段高潮，加那么一丁点的难度吧~

其他都挺好的, 有回复后给我发个论坛pm吧

[Events]
//Background and Video events
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"BGBeat.png",320,240
 F,0,2754,3254,0.75,0
 S,0,2754,3254,0.625,0.66
 F,0,18754,19254,0.75,0
 S,0,18754,19254,0.625,0.66
 F,0,26754,27254,0.75,0
 S,0,32754,38754,0.625,0.625
 F,0,32754,38754,0,0.67
 F,0,38754,70754,0.67
 F,0,70754,78754,0.67,1
 F,0,78754,79254,1,0
 S,0,78754,79254,0.625,0.66
 F,0,94754,95254,0.75,0
 S,0,94754,95254,0.625,0.66
 F,0,102754,103254,0.75,0
 S,0,102754,103254,0.625,0.66
 S,0,112754,126754,0.625
 F,0,112754,126754,0,0.75
//Storyboard Sound Samples

[Colours]
Combo1 : 128,255,194
Combo2 : 96,237,249
Combo3 : 36,156,255
SliderBorder : 193,255,238

1. 00:28:504 (6,7,1) - Due to stacking's nature I'd put this in ~x:435 y:283, it also helps to avoid overlap (:
2. 00:36:504 (1) - Please add gradual volume decrease here orz (due to the music, 20 -> 15 -> 10 -> 5 should be fine), currently this sounds quite abrupt for me ._.
3. 01:02:754 (1,2,3) - I wonder why you don't create a symmetry here, it's a perfect place for it imo >_< (I'm fine with the little jumps here, it's beautiful anyway :3)
   

   124,108,62754,6,0,B|144:168|144:168|96:196|96:264,1,160,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   257,328,63754,1,2,0:0:0
   414,248,64254,1,2,0:0:0

1. 00:36:504 (1) - Same as Dream
2. 01:09:254 (2) - Add whistle on start and repeat (to emphasize the instrument)?
3. 01:41:754 (2,3) - ...imo i'll be MUCH more beautiful if you can CTRL+G one of (2) or (3), to create a wonderful circular movement~

1. 01:09:254 (4) - Same as Sword

1. 00:32:754 (1) - Whistle on spinner's end here, it's REALLY required orz...
2. 01:48:754 (1) - End spinner in 01:50:754? I'm worried about the spinner recovery time here (really), and:
3. 01:51:754 (1,2,3) - Umm, why don't you just create symmetry here, gives a better impact to the ending imo :3
4. 01:53:004 (1) - I prefer having this ended in 01:59:254 as the other diffs did - don't forget to make the spinner's volume lower if you followed this :3

Niva wrote:

Hi jonathanlfj~ Randomly checking bubbled map :3
This is a good mapset already, just few things that I thought could polish the map better:

[Steph's Simple]

-> Uhm... It would be better actually if you started mapping in 1.3x dist. snap (to avoid overlap between circles) but it's fine though...

1. 00:32:754 (1) - Whistle on spinner's end here, it's REALLY required orz... Why? I have almost silenced that...
2. 01:48:754 (1) - End spinner in 01:50:754? I'm worried about the spinner recovery time here (really), and: Yes, that's right.
3. 01:51:754 (1,2,3) - Umm, why don't you just create symmetry here, gives a better impact to the ending imo :3 Triangle? Possible.
4. 01:53:004 (1) - I prefer having this ended in 01:59:254 as the other diffs did - don't forget to make the spinner's volume lower if you followed this :3

Fine.

The two hardest diffs has an unique flow, really~
Call me back when it's fixed xD

1. Sword : 00:38:754 (1) is missing new combo, please add it manually, and
2. As the last spinner on Steph's Simple is changed, add either clap or clap+whistle to last spinner on Steph's Simple (for consistency with other diffs)

Niva wrote:

(rechecking, don't kudosu this) - That whistle is for ornament btw (it's fine though if you don't want too add (: )

1. Sword : 00:38:754 (1) is missing new combo, please add it manually, and
2. As the last spinner on Steph's Simple is changed, add either clap or clap+whistle to last spinner on Steph's Simple (for consistency with other diffs)

fixed both
One other thing that caught my eye is 01:18:754 (1) on both Fairy and Sword diff, personally I think it'll be more intuitive if you kept normal spacing with previous note, and started using speed-up spacing afterwards (not really necessary though, somewhat new combo helps already :3)
yeah it will be a hassle with respacing everything, i think the current kiai + NC indication is good enough

• - 00:16:254 (4) - New combo here to keep your combo pattern?
  - 00:23:754 (4) - Same ^

1. 00:01:754 (1) - I would add whistle on the slider head to emphasize that flute sound (or what it is)
2. 00:03:754 (3) - ^ same for 00:05:754 (1) and so on
3. 00:17:254 (6) - Still whistle here to emphasize the piano
4. 00:30:754 (3) - I know that you are using distance snap but it'd be better to place this slider manually because actually the blanket you made with 00:30:254 (2) flows really bad. What about:
   
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   340,184,30754,2,0,P|256:188|224:304,1,210

5. 00:36:254 - You need to remove this break because play-warningarrows appear during the player is still playing
6. 00:40:754 (4) - Same of 00:30:754 (3) about flow:
   
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   136,176,40754,2,0,P|228:172|262:283,1,210,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

7. 00:44:754 (5) - Yea, you know:
   
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   409,79,44754,2,0,B|321:74|285:191|365:239,1,210,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

8. 00:47:754 (2) - Forgot whistle? I guess yes because you added it on each 2/2 on the next patterns
9. 00:50:754 (6) - You need to add new combo here because of new rhythm section.. also because this combo is longer than others x:
10. 00:56:754 (4,1) - You know, same of previous sliders about flow/blanket <.<
11. 01:08:754 - About break time, same of 00:36:254
12. 01:10:754 (1,2,3,4) - 10% volume is too slow. You should raise (1) volume till 20% and if you want keep the increase in volume you'll have to raise other green lines volume as well.
13. 01:18:754 (2) - What about to set soft default 40% volume finish to start this kiai time? I fell it fits better with music than the custom one IMO
14. 01:45:504 (1,2) - These sudden pattern could confuse players. Change it with 1/2 slider orz

1. 00:10:754 (1) - You forgot to add whistle on this slider tail to keep consistency with 00:27:754 (2)
2. 00:25:254 (3) - whistle/custom clap?
3. 01:18:754 (1) - Same of "Steph's Simple" about hitsounds setting

1. AR+2 fits muuch better. The actual one is too slow.
2. 01:50:254 (3) - I'd curve this slider to make a blanket with 01:48:754 (1): http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/544318

1. AR+1
2. 01:52:754 (1) - awesome

Chewin wrote:

Ohai jonathanlfj, checking random bubbled maps.

~Fairy~

1. 00:10:754 (1) - You forgot to add whistle on this slider tail to keep consistency with 00:27:754 (2) done
2. 00:25:254 (3) - whistle/custom clap? aite
3. 01:18:754 (1) - Same of "Steph's Simple" about hitsounds setting i would like to keep the current one, the atmosphere created with the custom finish is much better imo (also corresponds with the beating of the sb being "drum like")

~Sword~

1. AR+2 fits muuch better. The actual one is too slow. How bout AR+1? I feel that AR7 is too fast for what I claim to be a "Normal" difficulty (I could still FC with DTHR under AR6)
2. 01:50:254 (3) - I'd curve this slider to make a blanket with 01:48:754 (1): http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/544318 done

~Dream~

1. AR+1 [/color]
2. 01:52:754 (1) - awesome lol thanks (maybe i should name this one "Sword" for what it has but I like "Dream" for matching the title ><)

The two hardest diffs are really well mapped.
Call me back and I will rank

Chewin wrote:

Ohai jonathanlfj, checking random bubbled maps.

~Steph's Simple~

1. 00:01:754 (1) - I would add whistle on the slider head to emphasize that flute sound (or what it is) Fine, as it is on a downbeat.
2. 00:03:754 (3) - ^ same for 00:05:754 (1) and so on Are you trying to express "to silence the slider body is not good? I don't think we need a slider body sound"
3. 00:17:254 (6) - Still whistle here to emphasize the piano I can't feel the differences between whistle and normal...
4. 00:30:754 (3) - I know that you are using distance snap but it'd be better to place this slider manually because actually the blanket you made with 00:30:254 (2) flows really bad. What about:Thanks a lot!
   
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   340,184,30754,2,0,P|256:188|224:304,1,210

5. 00:36:254 - You need to remove this break because play-warningarrows appear during the player is still playing
6. 00:40:754 (4) - Same of 00:30:754 (3) about flow:
   
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   136,176,40754,2,0,P|228:172|262:283,1,210,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

7. 00:44:754 (5) - Yea, you know:
   
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   409,79,44754,2,0,B|321:74|285:191|365:239,1,210,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

8. 00:47:754 (2) - Forgot whistle? I guess yes because you added it on each 2/2 on the next patterns I just added that to the head of the sliders. Let me consider about that... Maybe a clap?
9. 00:50:754 (6) - You need to add new combo here because of new rhythm section.. also because this combo is longer than others x:Fine
10. 00:56:754 (4,1) - You know, same of previous sliders about flow/blanket <.< No more code provided D: (You are too greedy, steph!)
11. 01:08:754 - About break time, same of 00:36:254 Fine
12. 01:10:754 (1,2,3,4) - 10% volume is too slow. You should raise (1) volume till 20% and if you want keep the increase in volume you'll have to raise other green lines volume as well.OK
13. 01:18:754 (2) - What about to set soft default 40% volume finish to start this kiai time? I fell it fits better with music than the custom one IMO That means I should silence the slider body... I'll ask jonathan to do so because he has the access to the hitsound file. Possibly Soft custom2...
14. 01:45:504 (1,2) - These sudden pattern could confuse players. Change it with 1/2 slider orz I just want to add some difficulty at the last kiai time I extended the 3 before to a slider to express former 1. I hope this will be better.

Call me back and I will rank

jericho2442 wrote:

Fairy
00:34:754 (3) - new combo to be consistant with your own pattern


Dream
Overall the 1/4 triples in this feel really overmapped, they dont follow the music and they break it away from the soft flowly feel of the song. They are also everywhere and sometimes feel just like they was used to increase difficult. This is never good and hurts the enjoyment of this difficulty. Think about removing some of them to bring the flow back in the map what these make it lose.

01:09:254 (2) - unrankable in its current state, widen it out abit so that the start point and end point do not overlap in a way what makes it blind to read which way the slider goes. remember that for users what dont use snaking sliders, the whole slider appears at the same time. thus making it extremely hard to know its route
00:32:629 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - these blue tick patterns really dont suit the style of the mapping here. removing the blue tick note on all of these patterns at this point and making it follow the instrument flows much much better
00:38:504 (1,2) - this is one exsample of where the 1/4 triples do not suit, the song does not ask for this at all, infact its a very silent part with almost no power at all yet it has a triple placed....i strongly advise to remove this and ones like it actually this is probably one of the few triplets in the map that has music backing it up...if you slow down to 25% speed you can hear the sharp tones making up the 1/4s. I do agree though there are some unnecessary triplets in the diff and i will clean those up
01:52:754 (1) - widen the bottom of this slider out again so it does not overlap, same reasons as the other slider with the overlapping making it hard to read its route thus making it unrankable


The maps are good, but the big problem is you have overmapped with the hardest difficulty.Tthe extensive amount of focus you have put on 1/4 patterns in a song what almost never asks for them really hurts this map and it would be improved greatly if you tone them down and made the map follow the flow of the song. I can understand the need or want to create a insane difficulty to create a larger playerbase, but if that difficulty level comes at the cost of making a map what badly represents the song, then its not really worth it and you should instead focus on making the best map you can for the song.