TheNutritiousGuy wrote:

Modding~Herpederp

[General]
- Seitdem die Regel eingeführt wurde, dass die Diff Names, zeigen müssen, was für einen Diff sie darstellen sollen, musst du das jetzt ändern.
Schreib z.B. Orangenbaumblaetter = Easy Diff. herp-a-derp
- Könntest du schauen, den Audio aus dem Video zu entfernen? kay

[Orangenbaumblaetter]
00:24:493 (2) - Ich würd den entfernen für so einen leichten Diff. Nicht nötig
00:38:802 (1) - Ich würd einen 1/2 Slider bei einem leichten Diff vermeiden. Ist in dem Fall einfach genug, das Spacing sagt schon einiges aus und die SV ist ziemlich langsam
00:47:775 (x) - Vielleicht ein Circle hin? ok
00:53:595 (3) - Whistle auf den Slider wegen dem Frauenchor. k
01:32:399 (2) - Auf jeden Fall Finish weg. k
Ich würde da lieber Soft-Whistle setzen, weil Normal-Hit klingt ein bisschen "hart" für den Teil des Liedes.
01:41:130 (1) - Würde meiner Meinung nach bei x:384 y:96 schöner liegen. Nope, will's möglichst symmetrisch zum Slider davor halten
01:52:771 (4) - Vielleicht Circle entfernen? Warum?
02:08:292 (4) - Den entfernen, passt besser zur Musik. Klingt mir zu abgehackt...
02:33:515 (1) - Vielleicht Finish? Nope
03:16:198 (3) - Whistle beim Startpunkt passt nicht so sehr, entfern ihn. Find ich nicht :/
03:25:414 (1) - Entfern diesen Slider und setz bei 03:25:899 einen Circle. nagut
03:26:384 (2) - Reverse Arrow entfernen.
03:28:082 (1) - Starte den schon bei 03:27:597. Nope + ^

[Dunskin's Taiko Oni]
Video ausschalten; ist üblich für Taiko Diffs.
HP Drain würd ich um eins runtersetzen.
Außerdem, Oni ist absolut nicht zutreffend.. Muzukashii ist viel zutreffender.
03:29:052 (19) - Sollte der nicht weg und nicht da schon der Spinner anfangen? Passt alles so wie es ist, das mit dem Video überleg ich mir noch

[Haus am See]
Approach Rate um eins erhöhen? Nop
00:26:433 (1) - NC entfernen.
00:27:403 (3) - Da würd NC mehr Sinn machen. Jo
00:30:556 - Circle setzen? Nein
00:53:353 (1) - NC entfernen.
00:54:808 (3) - NC setzen. k
01:17:363 (3) - Die Position ist unnötig, selbst wenn das ein Jump sein soll. Passt zum "woh!" und deswegen kommt der Jump dahin
Da würd ich (2) dort setzen, (3) unter (1) und (4) unter (2).
01:26:336 (1) - NC entfernen. Nop
01:52:528 (1) - Ich würd den Slider silencen. Nicht nötig
Setz bei 01:52:528 und 01:53:013 Inherited Points wo in den Bereich zwischen den zwei Zeiten 5% Volume ist. Sieht witzig aus.
01:59:561 (1) - Versuch den Slider symetrisch zu machen. http://puu.sh/mbg1 Habs symmetrisch wie möglich gemacht...
02:07:565 (5) - Schieb den zu 02:08:050. Passt besser zur Musik. Nice idea
02:09:990 (5) - Der Jump ist ziemlich arg.. Ach was
02:15:568 (1) - NC entfernen.
02:16:053 (3) - NC setzen. k
02:34:727 (2,3,4) - Diese Hyper-Jumps sind unpassend. Glaubst du
02:58:252 (2) - Whistle setzen.
02:58:737 (3) - Beim Startpunkt: Finish setzen. NC setzen. +^ Klingt gut, schade das ich hitsoundfaul bin und das bei allen anderen gleichen Situationen nicht auch gemacht hab
03:00:192 (3) - NC entfernen. k
03:03:102 (2) - Whistle setzen.
03:04:072 (5) - ^ kk
03:09:893 (8) - Beim Endpunkt: Whistle entfernen. k
03:27:840 - Selbe wie bei p3n's faule Huette. Hab stattdessen den ganzen teil auf 60% gesetzt
03:30:750/03:31:720/03:32:084 - Wofür sind diese Inherited Points gut? ?_? Um den Sound des Spinners zu ändern

Gut, das konnt ich finden. Ich hoffe, der Mod hilft dir. ^_^

-kevincela- wrote:

It's such a bad thing that no one checks this map :\
+1 star kudosu for support~

Rue wrote:

So I did forget it ._. Hopefully it's better late rather than never \:D/

[Orangenbaumblaetter]
00:00:241 (1,2,3,4) - Considering it doesn't matter much where you place the very first element of the map, why not just put it into the centre? 'Coz putting them into the centre is too mainstream
00:08:001 (1) - sounds like a place for a finish to me, either default or custom one. did normal-finish
00:14:792 (2) - same with its end
00:16:247 - from here on, you aren't using hitsounds at all? Why not use at least soft whistles, they would fit LOL. I completely forget to use them
00:34:194 (1,2,3,1) - I guess this also would do Understand the beauty of a straight line! Like the drummer who all drum on 1 line instead of shifted forth and back
00:38:559 - feels like a place for a note Yup, certainly does
01:04:266 (2) - uh why not extend it to the next white tick and
01:05:722 - drop a note here? Or seeing how this is turning into a triplet combine them into a slider with a repeat? I'm tired and this is confusing. I extended the (2) to white tick and rhythm'd a bit better \:D/
01:36:279 (2) - from here, I try this: use hitnormal for its and then
01:41:130 (1) - same for its head? and probably keep that thing going. This could feel like a some sort of progress compared with the first part of the song. Nope, but interesting suggestion.

Not much to add, it's a neat diff :O

[Haus am See]

00:34:679 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - these look so plain :O Curvy things are nearly always prettier \:D/ they look cool =3=
01:17:848 - I'd place a spinner from here to 01:19:788 k
01:46:950 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try this Not exactly like that but thx for suggesting a rhythm-change
02:12:173 (2,3,4) - can't say these overlaps look pretty, space them out a little. fixd
02:31:574 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^
02:35:455 - would start spinner instead of (5) added a spinner right after instead
03:09:893 (8) - uh concerning all the long linear sliders, I'd suggest adding a point in the middle and making them just a tad curvy Nope, like it straight //yes i do

And that's pretty much it!

TheNutritiousGuy wrote:

[p3n's faule Huette]
00:10:911 (2) - Beim Startpunkt: Entweder Finish oder Whistle, ich find beides hört sich gut an.
Ich rate dir auf jeden Fall eines der Beiden zu setzen. whistle, check
00:40:257 - Y NO CIRCLE?? weil baseline da nur ein double ist und kein triple ;D
00:58:931 (6) - NC setzen.
01:16:878 (1) - NC entfernen, ist wirklich unnötig da NC zu setzen.
01:38:947 (7) - NC setzen.
02:15:083 (7) - ^
02:59:707 (3) - Ich würd den Reverse Arrow entfernen und den Slider bis 03:00:192 verlängern. Passt besser zum Rhythmus. das wie es ist, ist der beste kompromiss aus base+melodie imo
03:18:139 (2,3,4,5,8,9) - Clap entfernen, passt absolut nicht da rein. ok :/
03:27:840 - Ab da die Lautstärke um 20% reduzieren, da passen die Hitsounds nicht so richtig rein, sondern eher ein "ruhiges Ende". guter vorschlag!

Rue wrote:

[p3n's faule Huette]

00:21:340 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - hiding notes under triples are always troublesome to sightread to me, I'd suggest getting them outta there, probably to the centre. I guess it would make things a bit more clear but I'll stick with it as is until someone else wants me to unstack it aswell
00:39:772 (3,4,5,6,7) - even though this does follow the vocals, making this two triplets would be a better move I think. It used to be triplets but I really wanted to make this as close to the vocals and the baseline as possible
03:25:900 (1,2,3,4) - could probably place them like that. check, just a little bit different!

1. 00:58:931-Since this is part of a diamond shape spacing pattern, a new combo would be best here honestly.
2. 01:42:342 (7)-What an odd place to end the slider. This slider would actually end better on 01:42:342. Leaving the end of that slider snap to 1/4 and moving to the next note that is on 1/1, this would most likely confuse the player, you know?

17:35 <Roddie> : oh good you're here
17:35 <Magicphoenix> : mh?
17:35 <Roddie> : I wanted to discuss with you about your map
17:35  *Roddie is editing (Peter Fox - Haus am See)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40940]
17:36 <Magicphoenix> : ah sure
17:36 <Roddie> : the hardest diff you made
17:36 <Magicphoenix> : y?
17:36 <Roddie> : there is something that I picked up
17:36 <Roddie> : and I wanted you to take a listen to it
17:36 <Magicphoenix> : time plz?
17:36 <Roddie> : 00:08:001-
17:36 <Roddie> : how about adding a finish here?
17:37 <Magicphoenix> : why?
17:37 <Roddie> : well, you added a finish here on the same spot in your easiest diff
17:37 <Magicphoenix> : there's no indication of anything 
17:37 <Magicphoenix> : for a finish
17:37 <Magicphoenix> : must be because it would be too boring otherwise on easy
17:37 <Magicphoenix> : the hitsounds i mean
17:38 <Roddie> : very well then
17:39 <Magicphoenix> : mmh do you think
17:39 <Magicphoenix> : i should increase circle size ?
17:40 <Magicphoenix> : guess i'll keep it this way
17:40 <Roddie> : I'm pretty its fine
17:40 <Roddie> : a bit challengeing
17:41 <Roddie> : but there isn't anothing wrong with making your hard diff a bit harder lol
17:41 <Magicphoenix> :  i fear the overmap-factor :P
17:41 <Magicphoenix> : and i like it this way 
17:41 <Magicphoenix> : not too stressful but also relaxing
17:42 <Roddie> : I agree
17:42 <Roddie> : the AP is about right too
17:42 <Roddie> : so, no need to worry lol
17:42 <Magicphoenix> : okay ^^
17:49 <Roddie> : oh
17:49 <Roddie> : 01:47:920 (5, 6, 7, 8)-
17:50 <Roddie> : any reason why you didn't think adding a normal hitsample was a good idea?
18:04 <Roddie> : *pokes*
18:04 <Magicphoenix> : lemme see
18:04 <Magicphoenix> : loool
18:04 <Magicphoenix> : totally didn't notice that
18:04 <Magicphoenix> : :D
18:04 <Magicphoenix> : you're right
18:04 <Magicphoenix> : will do so, thx
18:05 <Magicphoenix> : k 
18:06 <Roddie> : 02:58:737-
18:06 <Roddie> : it would be best if you added a new combo here
18:07 <Magicphoenix> : i removed the prevvious new combo then
18:07 <Magicphoenix> : and did nc ther
18:07 <Roddie> : okay
18:18 <Roddie> : on btw
18:19 <Roddie> : on p3n's diff
18:19 <Magicphoenix> : yup?
18:19 <Roddie> : the countdown is enabled
18:19 <Roddie> : oh*
18:20 <Roddie> : and with that, you're all set
18:20 <Magicphoenix> : ah thanks 
18:20 <Roddie> : sure

Roddie wrote:

Hey there. ARRRR!!!

p3n's falue Huette

1. 00:58:931-Since this is part of a diamond shape spacing pattern, a new combo would be best here honestly. aye
2. 01:42:342 (7)-What an odd place to end the slider. This slider would actually end better on 01:42:342. Leaving the end of that slider snap to 1/4 and moving to the next note that is on 1/1, this would most likely confuse the player, you know? the pattern was a +5/4 +5/4 like some of the repeat sliders are. Changed it to prevent confusion even though it did sound "right" with the ending on the vocals

Leorda wrote:

Ohai

[General]
* That germanish of diff name makes players are very confusing. Please including a difficulty name in diff name (e.g. "Insane", "Easy") .....
* The 2nd kiai time should end at 02:58:737 (?) Mmmh okay, but I left a KIAI-impulse shortly before the "epilogue" of this song


[Orangenbaumblaetter]
00:38:559 (3) - Add clap? added
00:56:991 (3) - Move 1st red sliderpoint to 1 grid up for not touching the next slider (Nazi)
00:58:446 (1) - Move 1st red sliderpoint to 1 grid down for not touching the next slider (Nazi) fixed both
01:46:950 (2) - Add clap at start slider? ok
02:31:089 (1) - Why new combo here? Any reason? I'd love to highlight this note because of "Mmmh!~"


[p3n's faule Huette]
00:17:217 (3) - These pauses feels I hit this earlier. Move further away or add 1 repeating slider for 00:16:489 (2)?
00:45:350 (2) - Add clap?
00:53:110 (5) - Stack with 00:51:655 (5) for better looking pattern? (Nazi)
01:43:555 (3) - Add clap?
02:30:604 (2) - ^


[Haus am See]
00:56:021 (5) - I don't like if this slider is place at the same place as 00:54:808 (1) I intentionally made it this way and I don't think it's a big issue
01:59:561 (1) - Move 2nd sliderpoint to 1 grid right (Nazi) Ok
02:45:156 (7) - The tail slider is almost offscreen fixed
02:54:371 (1) - Why new combo? The previous combo stays a single combo because of "Mmmh!~"


[Dunskin's Taiko Oni]
* This diff has audio lead-in "3000" but others are "2000". Please change it to "2000" fixed


Nice map, good luck

Leorda wrote:

[p3n's faule Huette]
00:17:217 (3) - These pauses feels I hit this earlier. Move further away or add 1 repeating slider for 00:16:489 (2)? added repeat
00:45:350 (2) - Add clap? sounds good
00:53:110 (5) - Stack with 00:51:655 (5) for better looking pattern? (Nazi) *gasp* how could this happen...
01:43:555 (3) - Add clap? again sounds good
02:30:604 (2) - ^ yep

Lissette wrote:

[General]
Can you specify the level difficulty on creator words? (Easy, Normal, Hard... etc) how it is right now doesn't helps much. I'd like to make a comment on this one. As you usually don't look for difficulty names but the song title, you firstly won't have any trouble finding this map even with the german difficulty names. Secondly, when you're going to play the map you can usually see the stars which tell you the difficulty. You can EASILY come to a conclusion of what diff name what the diff is supposed to be. If you have trouble distinguishing between p3n's & my diff, just play the map for 10 seconds and you will know. Not like it will influence your gameplay by much.
As this song is a german one, I'm from germany, osu! got close to 0 german songs & the song is one of the most famous in the german music-scene(along with the artist - album was #1 for 96 weeks in the charts), I'd like to make this as special for germans as possible and thus the GERMAN DIFFICULTY NAMES.

On a side note : Why would it have to "help" in any way?

[Haus am See]
00:15:762 (1,2) - I don't like how those sounds, i tried using beat snap divisor 1/3 for those, but still don't like how it sounds If I use 25% play speed the beat is exactly on-time. I don't see the problem
00:18:672 (3) - shorten by half beat, and move this 00:19:400 (4) - to 00:19:157 - ok, but instead of moving i added an extra note
00:23:280 (1) - move half beat earlier It follows the vocal. Why?
00:42:439 (2,3,4) - this looks kinda weird, can you place 4 somewhere else Was made intentionally this way and looks perfect for me.
01:15:907 (6) - middle point sounds off fixed
02:15:810 (7) - wrong spacing To what extend "wrong spacing" ? If you mean that it was closer to the previous but farther to next note, fixed that
02:29:634 (7) - place this one vertically in the middle of 3 and 6? I think would look better Nope, I try to keep the symmetry there.

[p3n's faule Huette]
AR -1?
Can you capitalize "faule" ? Due to the german spelling I have to decline on this one
00:27:767 (2,3,4,5) - doesn't fit, imo
00:37:104 (6,7,8) - wrong spacing
00:39:772 (3) - ^
00:44:258 (7) - ^
00:46:562 (1) - to 00:58:446 (5) - this part is boring, to much time doing practically the same pattern in the center, looks like you were uninspired there
01:16:878 (1) - remove new combo?
03:25:657 (10) - weird jump here, what are you following?

[Orangenbaumblaetter]
I didn't like the combo placement on this difficulty, is not very consistent in some parts, would be nice if you take a look, problem is that when i thought it should be a new combo, there is a spinner end.... you maybe you'll need to move some of those. I fixed a few new combos that I thought were wrong, but otherwise I don't know what exactly you mean by "consistency in some parts". There's only 2 spinner and they, afaik, don't influence the combo by too much ... I'm comboing after every sentence of the vocal
03:28:082 (1) - end it like in other diffs It does end like in other diffs?

Magicphoenix wrote:

Lissette wrote:

[General]
Can you specify the level difficulty on creator words? (Easy, Normal, Hard... etc) how it is right now doesn't helps much. I'd like to make a comment on this one. As you usually don't look for difficulty names but the song title, you firstly won't have any trouble finding this map even with the german difficulty names. Secondly, when you're going to play the map you can usually see the stars which tell you the difficulty. You can EASILY come to a conclusion of what diff name what the diff is supposed to be. If you have trouble distinguishing between p3n's & my diff, just play the map for 10 seconds and you will know. Not like it will influence your gameplay by much.
As this song is a german one, I'm from germany, osu! got close to 0 german songs & the song is one of the most famous in the german music-scene(along with the artist - album was #1 for 96 weeks in the charts), I'd like to make this as special for germans as possible and thus the GERMAN DIFFICULTY NAMES.

On a side note : Why would it have to "help" in any way?

Lissette wrote:

[p3n's faule Huette]
AR -1? makes some patterns harder to read...so no
Can you capitalize "faule" ? should be appropriate for diff "title" so MPX will fix that
00:27:767 (2,3,4,5) - doesn't fit, imo changed to slider pattern
00:37:104 (6,7,8) - wrong spacing my bad..
00:39:772 (3) - ^
00:44:258 (7) - ^ seems fine to me...little jump is intended on the beginning of the new phrase...but in this song it overlaps into the previous bar which messes up either combo patterns OR the flow of the map. I stick to flow in this but I added NC to make it more readable.
00:46:562 (1) - to 00:58:446 (5) - this part is boring, to much time doing practically the same pattern in the center, looks like you were uninspired there I think this is a nice contrast to the rest of the map
01:16:878 (1) - remove new combo? sure
03:25:657 (10) - weird jump here, what are you following? again beginning of a new phrase...indicating it with NC now just like before

Byakugan249 wrote:

ok i'm here~

Bold: Unrankable/must fix.
Red: You should fix it, but it's up to you.
Italic: Suggestion. Feel free to ignore this if you don't like it.
Blue: Comment. I'll give you my opinion, advice, or if i'm curious about something.

[General]
Tags are inconsistent. add "Foxi Cold Steel" in the p3n's diff. fixed
you have a 4:3 video so disable the letterbox during breaks since there's a letterbox at the top and bottom. k

[Orangenbaumblaetter]
00:20:127 - add a circle here. it'll keep the 1/1 rhythm going and it follows the vocals in the song. also make this note a NC because the lyrics change here. k
00:23:038 - here as well to follow the drums in this song. not here, I want a few smaller breaks and I think one fits here
00:30:313 (5) - replace this for a 1/1 repeat slider because i think doing this will follow the BGM and the vocals nicely during gameplay. I think of it as the exact opposite, having 1/2 repeat would sound more fitting
00:41:954 - ^ ^
01:00:871 (1) - *nazi* move this a bit to the right so that the slider is slightly aligned to the circles. i think doing this would look somewhat neater during gameplay. k
01:04:266 (2) - same as 00:30:313. Huh? This wouldn't fit at all imo
01:15:907 (2) - remove the repeat and add a 1/1 slider at the next downbeat because it'll follow the "woo" and the BGM. k
01:25:608 (1) - remove the whistle at the repeat of the slider. it ruins the mood of the song even though it's following the BGM. k
01:32:399 (2) - reduce this slider by 1/1 and do this pattern instead. i think doing this will follow the vocals nicely in this part of the song. I like the N-sliderslide effect on the current slider so I'd like to keep it this way
01:48:405 (3) - 2 circles should be fine here since they follow the drums in this whereas the repeat sliders follow the vocals. k
02:23:571 - same as 00:20:127, but this follows the instrumental. I'd like to avoid 1/2s when possible and I don't think it's necessary here
02:27:451 - ^ ^
02:53:886 (3) - a circle and a 1/1 slider would fit here to follow the vocals accurately. k
03:00:677 (2) - straighten this slider vertically because that overlap makes the diff look bad. it bothers me and it bother other people as well. It doesn't bother me (Actually, I made it this way intentionally because I like it) neither do I think that it bothers anybody else, there's always a bunch who dislike it but I kinda want to keep this as my personal preference
03:18:381 - same as 00:20:127. ok
gotta stop here...gonna continue the rest in the morning...don't give the kd yet until the full mod is complete.

[Dunskin's Taiko Oni]
00:07:395 (28,29) - instead of kd, do dk because the previous k which is (27) matches the drums, so it'd look consistent.
00:15:519 (56) - d here instead of a k. the drum's volume is a bit low here compared to the last 2 d's, so you can say that it's connected.
00:31:283 (1) - K here to not only match the drums, but the "ding" in the song.

[p3n's faule Huette]
00:19:400 (4) - i don't like this clap. there's no sound of the instrumental in this part and it sounds like it doesn't belong here IMO, so i suggest that you remove it.
00:26:918 (1) - consider adding a clap and a whistle here for consistency with the last 2 sliders since they go along with the vocals in this part.
00:30:313 (8) - can you adjust this slider because (5)'s hitburst is covering the repeat arrow and that might throw off players who plays this blindly(on their 1st try).
00:34:921 (2) - same as 00:19:400.
01:42:342 (7) - add a repeat on this slider to follow the vocals in this part. if not a repeat then a circle since i feel that there's something missing here.
01:49:376 (2) - you can hear the "click" in the BGM, so add a clap for emphasis.
02:25:269 (5,6) - add claps here for consistency with the previous clap pattern in the map.
03:28:810 (2) - increase the volume to at least 20%. it looks like that this note is silenced and that might be unrankable.
03:29:295 (1) - reduce this spinner by 1/4 like the other spinners in the diff.

[Haus am See]
01:10:572 (2) - maybe Ctrl+R because the vocal pitch hits a hard note in the song? Nope, this is to keep the pattern (On a side note : Ctrl + R is now Ctrl + G, unless you meant it with the Drum-Additions...)

mm~ i don't think i can bubble this mainly because of the diff spread. the gap from the 1st diff to the other is too large, also it looks like there's no normal diff in the mapset to even it out. anyways, don't give up on this map and GL

Stefan wrote:

derp

[Ende der Strasse]
00:03:636 (4) - Ich würde lieber zwei Circles anstatt einen Slider benutzen. 'N Slider geht aber so gut über
00:08:001 (3) - Whistle hört sich gut an. Clap kann drinnen bleiben. Hab die stattdessen auf den Slider danach gepackt
00:12:367 (1) - ^ k
00:14:792 (2,3) - http://puu.sh/1drTC Das passt besser imo. k
00:30:677 (4,5) - http://puu.sh/1drXt Ist ein wenig zu hart für einen Normal Diff. orz
00:38:559 (1) - Ich persönlich hab kein Gefühl für den Beat, meiner Meinung nach, solltest du ihn entfernen. Folgt der Drum und ist nen Ansager für den double-slider
01:37:492 (1) - Auf 01:37:734 sollte nur ein Circle gesetzt werden. Folgt aber dem Vocal
01:40:645 (2) - Entfern Whistle, hört sich meh an. Folgt dem Beat
01:44:525 (2) - ^^
02:03:199 (1) - Setz den IP bei 02:03:442 auf 02:03:927, da ansonsten der normale Sliderslide zu hören ist und der strange sich anhört. hast recht
02:12:173 (1) - Den Slider solltest du mit 02:13:143 (2) ersetzen, ich finde die drei Slider hier sollten gleich sein. Nop, gehört mit zur pattern
02:17:993 (3) - Ich würde den Loop ein wenig schöner machen. :/ Hab's versucht ^^"
02:42:730 (1) - IMO sollte der Slider normale Hitsounds haben. Find ich nicht
02:51:946 (3,4,5) - Sieht SEHR eingequetscht aus.. haha
03:06:013 - Der IP ist total unnötig. O_o da haste recht
03:12:803 (3,4) - http://puu.sh/1dsbw kk

Byakugan249 wrote:

ok i'm here~ me2 me2~

[General]
Tags are inconsistent. add "Foxi Cold Steel" in the p3n's diff. fixed

[p3n's faule Huette]
00:19:400 (4) - i don't like this clap. there's no sound of the instrumental in this part and it sounds like it doesn't belong here IMO, so i suggest that you remove it.
00:26:918 (1) - consider adding a clap and a whistle here for consistency with the last 2 sliders since they go along with the vocals in this part.
00:30:313 (8) - can you adjust this slider because (5)'s hitburst is covering the repeat arrow and that might throw off players who plays this blindly(on their 1st try). moved complete pattern and curved slider around previous circles
00:34:921 (2) - same as 00:19:400.
01:42:342 (7) - add a repeat on this slider to follow the vocals in this part. if not a repeat then a circle since i feel that there's something missing here. uhh why was the repeat missing in this version?...odd. anyway it is back again
01:49:376 (2) - you can hear the "click" in the BGM, so add a clap for emphasis.
02:25:269 (5,6) - add claps here for consistency with the previous clap pattern in the map.
03:28:810 (2) - increase the volume to at least 20%. it looks like that this note is silenced and that might be unrankable. done - not much different anyway
03:29:295 (1) - reduce this spinner by 1/4 like the other spinners in the diff. done

hitsounds are now much more consistent. I already changed everything you mentioned in the recent re-working of the hitsounds


mm~ i don't think i can bubble this mainly because of the diff spread. the gap from the 1st diff to the other is too large, also it looks like there's no normal diff in the mapset to even it out. anyways, don't give up on this map and GL

Stefan wrote:

U damn lucker

SPOILER

osu file format v10

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Title:Haus am See
TitleUnicode:Haus am See
Artist:Peter Fox
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Creator:Magicphoenix
Version:Ende der Strasse
Source:
Tags:Stadtaffe p3n DarkDunskin Cold Steel Reggae
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180,266,186983,6,0,B|147:252|128:220,2,60,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
203,160,187953,2,0,B|191:129|196:96,2,60,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
297,107,188923,2,0,B|308:78|338:56,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
385,46,189408,2,0,B|452:48|484:112,2,120,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
364,152,190863,6,0,B|364:231,2,60,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
269,203,191833,2,0,B|269:282,2,60,2|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
168,241,192803,2,0,B|168:320,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
217,331,193288,2,0,B|158:359|159:315|84:344,1,120,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
23,262,194258,6,0,B|136:244|172:152|172:100|168:72,1,240
71,50,195713,1,2,0:0:0
71,157,196198,2,0,B|128:236|196:244|276:224|296:196,2,240
147,80,198624,6,0,B|276:36,1,120,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
356,92,199594,2,0,B|252:160,1,120
206,247,200564,2,0,B|344:272,2,120,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
104,210,202019,6,0,B|96:152|131:64|232:68|273:91,2,240,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
206,175,204444,2,0,B|236:240|312:240,2,120,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
388,58,205899,6,0,B|368:122|309:144,1,120
282,39,206869,2,0,B|157:109|188:255,1,240,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,192,208082,12,0,212084,0:0:0

1. 00:07:516 (2,3) - I suggest you to replace 00:07:516 (2) - with a 1/2 slider,so that 00:07:516 (2,3) - will become a 1/2 pattern that follows properly the drums in the bg (you'll hear a drum being played at 00:07:759 - ,so I suggest you to follow it by doing this)
2. 00:14:792 (2) - Again,if you want to follow the drums here,I suggest you to do something like this:
   
   If you want to change this,I'd suggest you to do this kind of pattern too:
   
   SPOILER

   
   As you see,the position of 00:15:762 (1) - flows perfectly with 00:14:792 (2) - and creates a pretty good triangular-shaped pattern with 00:16:247 (2,3) -
   Here's the code if you want to change this:
   

   371,138,14307,5,8,0:0:0
   475,110,14792,2,0,B|464:60|412:44,2,90,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   472,164,15762,5,4,0:0:0
   370,137,16247,1,8,0:0:0
   293,213,16732,2,0,B|306:346,1,120,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

3. 00:30:677 - There's actually no problem here ,but if you want to add something there you could anyways do another rhythm pattern like this:
   
4. 00:42:439 (2,3,1) - As 00:42:439 (2) - goes downwards,I feel that the climbing with 00:43:167 (3,1) - is unpleasant. You could instead follow 00:42:439 (2) - 's dropoff by doing a triangular pattern that goes downwards and then upwards. Here's an example to make the things clear!
   
   SPOILER

   
   

   154,338,42439,2,0,B|212:360|212:316|280:348,1,120,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   324,360,43167,1,0,0:0:0
   368,332,43409,6,0,B|419:283|380:203|380:203,2,120,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0

   If you have some problems with rearraging the following notes here's an example of what you could do: use this code and tell me if you like it
   

   324,360,44622,2,0,B|288:352|267:323,1,60,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   256,280,45107,2,0,B|240:258|204:250,1,60,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   108,200,45835,2,0,B|28:208|24:285,1,120
   56,316,46562,1,0,0:0:0
   108,308,46805,6,0,B|236:276,2,120,4|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   188,380,48260,2,8,B|312:348,1,120
   336,248,49230,2,0,B|216:280,2,120,8|2|2,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:3:0
   348,140,50685,6,0,B|274:94,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   245,84,51170,2,0,B|204:144|132:144,1,120,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

5. 00:49:230 (3) - Lol,you set the hitsound addition of this slider to "Drum",while it should be "Auto". Fix that and you'll have back your custom hitsound!
6. 00:53:353 (4) - Whistle at the end of the slider to follow the vocals in the bg that are increasing?
7. 01:08:147 (3,4) - I usually don't fina any problems with stacking notes and stuff but be careful here: you stacked a slider ending in a blue tick with another one that begins in a red tick! You know,many normal players still haven't completely understood this kind of "conception" and will surely sliderbreak here because they will think this is just a 1/2 or 1/1 pattern! I suggest you to space them away.
8. 01:36:279 - You should add a note here to properly end this vocal phrase
9. 01:39:432 (5,1) - Same as 01:08:147 (3,4) -,be careful with these stacks!
10. 02:03:199 (1) - Whistle at the beginning to follow the vocals again increasing their pitch?
11. 02:25:754 (1) - What about moving this new combo to 02:23:814 (4) - ? It'll be consistent with the previous pattern you used,and starts the phrase well!
12. 02:46:611 (5) - After 02:45:156 (4) - I actally expected the flow going downwards :U What about moving this at x:156 y:248?
13. 02:57:767 (3,4) - Again,to follow properly the synth I'd suggest you to use the same rhythm I suggested you at 00:14:792 (2) -

-kevincela- wrote:

Anyways,here's the mod you requested me for your Normal diff

[Ende der Strasse]

1. 00:07:516 (2,3) - I suggest you to replace 00:07:516 (2) - with a 1/2 slider,so that 00:07:516 (2,3) - will become a 1/2 pattern that follows properly the drums in the bg (you'll hear a drum being played at 00:07:759 - ,so I suggest you to follow it by doing this) Okay
2. 00:14:792 (2) - Again,if you want to follow the drums here,I suggest you to do something like this: I'm following the choir here, sorry for not changing your wall of text you've written for this 1 suggestions = ='
   
   If you want to change this,I'd suggest you to do this kind of pattern too:
   
   SPOILER

   
   As you see,the position of 00:15:762 (1) - flows perfectly with 00:14:792 (2) - and creates a pretty good triangular-shaped pattern with 00:16:247 (2,3) -
   Here's the code if you want to change this:
   

   371,138,14307,5,8,0:0:0
   475,110,14792,2,0,B|464:60|412:44,2,90,0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   472,164,15762,5,4,0:0:0
   370,137,16247,1,8,0:0:0
   293,213,16732,2,0,B|306:346,1,120,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

3. 00:30:677 - There's actually no problem here ,but if you want to add something there you could anyways do another rhythm pattern like this: LOL. I acutally did use that pattern! Damn Stefan must've deleted it lol
   
4. 00:42:439 (2,3,1) - As 00:42:439 (2) - goes downwards,I feel that the climbing with 00:43:167 (3,1) - is unpleasant. You could instead follow 00:42:439 (2) - 's dropoff by doing a triangular pattern that goes downwards and then upwards. Here's an example to make the things clear! Okay
   
   SPOILER

   
   

   154,338,42439,2,0,B|212:360|212:316|280:348,1,120,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   324,360,43167,1,0,0:0:0
   368,332,43409,6,0,B|419:283|380:203|380:203,2,120,8|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0

   If you have some problems with rearraging the following notes here's an example of what you could do: use this code and tell me if you like it This looked a little bit too cramped for me, I used my own arrangement, sry & thx :3
   

   324,360,44622,2,0,B|288:352|267:323,1,60,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   256,280,45107,2,0,B|240:258|204:250,1,60,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   108,200,45835,2,0,B|28:208|24:285,1,120
   56,316,46562,1,0,0:0:0
   108,308,46805,6,0,B|236:276,2,120,4|8|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   188,380,48260,2,8,B|312:348,1,120
   336,248,49230,2,0,B|216:280,2,120,8|2|2,0:3|0:0|0:0,0:3:0
   348,140,50685,6,0,B|274:94,1,60,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
   245,84,51170,2,0,B|204:144|132:144,1,120,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0

5. 00:49:230 (3) - Lol,you set the hitsound addition of this slider to "Drum",while it should be "Auto". Fix that and you'll have back your custom hitsound!Still getting used to the new editing-additions = =' I often do these mistakes...thanks
6. 00:53:353 (4) - Whistle at the end of the slider to follow the vocals in the bg that are increasing? K, I actually had them already, yet again - Stefan
7. 01:08:147 (3,4) - I usually don't fina any problems with stacking notes and stuff but be careful here: you stacked a slider ending in a blue tick with another one that begins in a red tick! You know,many normal players still haven't completely understood this kind of "conception" and will surely sliderbreak here because they will think this is just a 1/2 or 1/1 pattern! I suggest you to space them away. Okay
8. 01:36:279 - You should add a note here to properly end this vocal phrase Stefan
9. 01:39:432 (5,1) - Same as 01:08:147 (3,4) -,be careful with these stacks! 1/2 stacks should be pretty fine to me
10. 02:03:199 (1) - Whistle at the beginning to follow the vocals again increasing their pitch? Nope
11. 02:25:754 (1) - What about moving this new combo to 02:23:814 (4) - ? It'll be consistent with the previous pattern you used,and starts the phrase well! agree
12. 02:46:611 (5) - After 02:45:156 (4) - I actally expected the flow going downwards :U What about moving this at x:156 y:248? okay
13. 02:57:767 (3,4) - Again,to follow properly the synth I'd suggest you to use the same rhythm I suggested you at 00:14:792 (2) - It's fine this way

Hope I have been helpful!

Magicphoenix wrote:

1. 01:39:432 (5,1) - Same as 01:08:147 (3,4) -,be careful with these stacks! 1/2 stacks should be pretty fine to me

Byakugan249 wrote:

ok i'm here~

[Dunskin's Taiko Oni]
00:07:395 (28,29) - instead of kd, do dk because the previous k which is (27) matches the drums, so it'd look consistent. Done
00:15:519 (56) - d here instead of a k. the drum's volume is a bit low here compared to the last 2 d's, so you can say that it's connected. Done
00:31:283 (1) - K here to not only match the drums, but the "ding" in the song. Won't add a K here. It would look weird because I always use D instead of K in this song. Its a bit out of consistency if I do that.

Deif wrote:

There's not much to mod in your requested diff. To be honest, it's quite neat and clean, and I can just nip-tuck some stuff in it.

[Ende der Straße]

00:16:732 (2) - It looks better if it's curved as ")", getting the same shape as (3)'s approach circle. If you want to keep the symmetry with the next slider you can also copy this one and flip it to the correct position. Alright

00:23:280 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - The timeline here is kinda odd, and doesn't have a good flow compared to other diffs. Maybe you can try this suggestions:
- 00:24:735 - A new note can fit here to make a good transition between both sliders.
- 00:24:978 (4) - Instead of a 2/1 slider, you can try a 1/1 one with a repetition. Did this

00:29:343 (3,4,5) - Same here. (4) starts in a 1/4 line in this case:
- 00:29:343 (3) - You can try shortening it to make a 1/1 slider.
- 00:30:677 (4) - Start it 3/4 before, where (3) ended previously, and add a repetition. this is nice

01:38:462 (3,4) - (3) should probably be 1/1 long, and (4) just a circle, according to the lyrics. Lyrics? If you mean vocal, the rhythm stays the same throughout the whole pattern + a 1/1 slider wouldn't fit in IMO


Good luck with it!

kriers wrote:

[Orangenbaumblaetter]
This is another normal difficulty. I'm totally confused since it's only 1,5 stars but it's definitely too hard for any easy If that's the case for you, I lowered the settings quite a bit and will try to decrease the difficulty of a few sequences in this diff

Skipping this.

[Ende der Strasse]
00:24:978 (4) - NC for readability As I fixed this slider with the previous mod, the readability-NC won't be necessary anymore
00:30:677 (4) - this slider starting on a blue tick (!) is way too confusing for any normal difficulty. Yes I even asked andrea about this Same as above
as a solution: 00:29:343 (3) - have it end on 00:29:828 - then add a slider 00:30:313 (4) - and have it end on blue tick 00:30:677 - Exactly the way I fixed it, with the difference that I added a repeat on the last slider

SPOILER

01:25:608 (1,2,3) - this is very confusing. Please add spacing betweem 1,2. ok
01:39:432 (5,1) - this too is quite confusing. Move 1 to x:196 y:164 ok
02:03:199 (1) - remove NC
02:04:412 (5) - add NC
02:04:897 (1) - remove NC Okay(this goes in a 3-pack ofc )
02:34:242 (5) - NC
02:34:970 (1) - Remove NC Okay(2pac)
02:49:400 (5) - NC
02:50:006 (1) - remove NC
02:50:734 (1) - remove NC
02:50:976 (1) - NC Kay (4-pack)


[Haus am See]

HP drain +1 - it has lower drain than faule Huette atm can do
Approach rate +1 - because 1,8 SV along with spacing is way too complex to read with ar8. It would kill the flow to leave it 7 in my opinion. I never brought in any complex patterns or things that would require AR 8, in fact, I think having AR 7 is better 'coz it gives a more relaxed feeling to the diff and is more than enough for this
Overall difficulty +1 - because for a difficulty that's supposed to be the hardest in the set, od7 is too low. I disagree on the idea & reasoning
It should also be regarded as an [Insane], not another [Hard].Star rating is a bitch (which is why this is rated harder than p3n's) and this is supposed to be a [Hard] diff as well as with p3n, but I don't see any problems with having 2 of them and even more reject the idea of having an Insane for this song

Please review slider symmetry. Some of the smaller sliders would look odd if you tried to ctrl + g them. I don't really put much effort into the symmetry of sliders, neither do I think it's too important if it's not supposed to be symmterical

00:23:038 - missing note for guitar sound k, changed pattern on top of that
01:11:542 (5) - the red nodes on this slider looks out of place to me Sure can do
01:13:482 (1) - couldn't it look more like this? ^
01:17:848 (1) - remove NC - same spacing. k, changed the NCs in that pattern slightly

By listening to music I was kinda disappointed to see these sliders:
01:36:522 (1) - &
01:40:402 (8) - there's a guitar sound in both of these timings that I'd rather seen map. As it is, it's plain undermapping. Truly I could map the beat in few sequences
02:08:292 (7) - NC
02:08:535 (1) - remove NC k
02:44:428 (7,8) - the order of slider and note is wrong. It would sound more correct if it's like this: fixd

SPOILER

03:28:203 (2,3) - it would look better like this: true

SPOILER

and most importantly:

SPOILER

LOL 4-4 U MAD XDXDXDXDXD

inb4 no kd