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nVidi4x
Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a GOOD tablet go for BAMBOO CONNECT (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 3 tablets was the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 2nd and 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 1or 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio (AR) 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me. This is very helpful because you can decide your area with numerical values.

EDIT

Active areas for tablets
you obtain the aspect ration in full area dividing long by high

Intuos4 = 6.2" x 3.9" in AR= 1.59
2nd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61
3rd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61

so as you can see, all wacom tablets*were made for AR 16:10, consider this to play in a good "rectangular proportion" ingame, you shouldn't try to introduce a square into a rectangle, that's why AR is sooo important.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
LnDSuv

nVidi4x wrote:

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
MMzz

LnDSuv wrote:

nVidi4x wrote:

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
Pen and touch just has a feature where you can use your finger.
Buy the pen.
nVidi4x

LnDSuv wrote:

I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
I edited the info, all tablets were made for ar 16:10.
Pen and Touch is White and (just) Pen is Black.
Touch must be disable to play osu well, but is the same tablet, it has the same spech techs. just buy the color that u want :)
Topic Starter
Daru
Actually the older tablets are 4:3. ;)
Basically everything before the Bamboo tablets are 4:3, and most everything after is 16:10. There is still a Cintiq that's 4:3, I believe. My intuos3 is 9x12", or 4:3.

I didn't put any info about actually playing with a tablet because that would require a thread in and of itself, I think - this is strictly a purchase guide that weighs the various benefits of certain tablets against the prices, plus some basic info.

@LnDSuv:
The majority of monitors nowadays are 16:9, though most "art" class monitors that focus on color reproduction above all else are 16:10, which is part of the reason why the tablets are made in that aspect ratio. I'd personally recommend remapping it to have 1:1 vertical:horizontal movement, even if it means you're cutting off a bit of the active area to do so. My tablet is 4:3, but I have a 16:10 monitor, so there's a slice at the bottom that's not used.

The difference between Pen&Touch and Pen models is really just the "touch" function. I really don't think it's worth it, but that's just from my personal experience.

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Oh, and to answer that question from a while ago about overlay sheets...

I've found that a piece of plexiglass cut to the correct dimensions, then sanded down with very fine sandpaper (600+ grit) makes for a suitable, cheap replacement for your overlay sheet. The sheet can then be adhered to the tablet with some double-sided tape. It's quite a bit thicker than the regular sheet, which is the only drawback, but you can get decently sized pieces for under $4, which is much cheaper than Wacom's $30 replacement sheets.
TenDesires_old
From what I know about graphic tablets, I would highly recomment to get the Capture instead of the Connect.

Bamboo Connect sure is enough to play osu!, but there is only a 20$ difference between this and the Capture, and you get multi-touch, programmable buttons and Photoshop Elements. At first, I bought my Capture thinking about using it to play osu!, but later I found that multi-touch gestures are far more ergonomic for navigating than the mouse, which I use only in games now.

The presence of PSE in the software bundle makes it also a far better deal.
-Soba-
Obv Intuos4 Small = best osu tablet around >:T
Colored
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Inaba_old_1
I don't suppose there's a way to use my cintiq as a regular tablet?
Not that it matters, since I'm too used to mouse now.
How
I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.
jianzii

[Cooper] wrote:

I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.
Same, really really helpful guide.
paitehoens
i have a bamboo third gen..
may i ask something here? can somebody tell me how to save custom preferences for bamboo?
thank you so much.. and sorry for my bad english :(
Zelmarked
If you installed your drivers, you'll find it in the control panel. "Bamboo preferences".
paitehoens
found it.. thank you so much :D
Maneuver
I think tablet learning curve is much easier than using mouse. As for mobility the pen is much more lighter and easier for precise control and moving than the mouse. Which one is more tired ?
Zelmarked
That's hard for me to say as to whether or not the learning curve is easier. Half the obj is accomplished by keyboard clicks, if you use +kb setups, which don't deffer in execution when switching from mouse to tablet.
It's hard to articulate but some experience even if under one peripheral can somewhat translate to using a a different peripheral, I would think. I'd like to hear experiences from people who started on a tablet and didn't use a mouse on how hard it was for them.

I'd say mouse is hard on your wrist and also your, thumb, pinky, and ring finger depending on how much you claw grip. Also tiring up your arm if use a low sensitivity.
Pen is a killer of fingers if you heavily claw grip. Wrist hurts on full proportions when you try to move your wrist as to not have to move your arm.
Can't say definitively yet.
Derekku
I have the first generation Bamboo Fun. Bought it in late 2008 for around $100 and it's still going strong! If anything ever happens to it, I might try the second generation Bamboo Fun. Great guide, by the way! (:
Raynor_senpai
good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!
Layne_old_1
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kriers
I have dusty intous4 laying around here somewhere... The responsiveness is much higher than any other tablet I've ever tried. Hardly a sign of any 'squary' movements when hovering.

Expensive as hell, though xD
Meru
Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
jianzii

Matoryoshika wrote:

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
peppercatastrop

jianzii wrote:

Matoryoshika wrote:

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
G a r u d a
I'm seriously thinking about buying a tablet, I'm sick of using mouse >_>
The problem is, I don't know how much it costs here D:
Any brazillian players around? ):
G a r u d a
I just checked it... It costs around 200 to 300 bucks... Thanks for answering =3=
Meru

AeroRange wrote:

jianzii wrote:

Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?
TenDesires_old

Raynor_senpai wrote:

good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!
Connect is okay to play osu!, but if you think Capture's features will be useful in other things for you like it was for me then buy it, it's only 20$ more expensive.
kingking9
I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!
Mythras

kingking9 wrote:

I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!
why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
peppercatastrop

Matoryoshika wrote:

AeroRange wrote:

Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?
Yup. The first nib is still good until now.
My favourite part of Genius graphic tablets is the area config.
Topic Starter
Daru
Genius tablets aren't worth it, in my opinion.

They're priced fairly close to their Wacom counterparts in terms of size - close enough that it's often not worth sacrificing the quality of the product to save a few bucks.

It's very much a case of "you get what you pay for" - Wacom is the name brand here, and is almost unanimously favored by artists because of the quality of the product you receive (with some misgivings for the 1st gen Bamboo Fun). Genius tablets certainly are an option, but I can't really recommend them in comparison to Wacom.

It's worth noting that nearly all tablets share the basic options needed for osu - that is, sensitive area configuration and a "pen", or absolute tracking mode.
kingking9

Unkind wrote:

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the feedback from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...
peppercatastrop
But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet
Tsukimi Luna
I think I'm gonna get a Wacom bamboo connect >.<
emergist
I've just bought a Wacom CTF-420, it's awesome.
VaiL_old

AeroRange wrote:

But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet
why dont you look for it in singapore? i've seen a lot of tablets over there.. and indonesia is right beside singapore
AliceSuyeong

kingking9 wrote:

Unkind wrote:

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the feedback from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...
Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical contact instead.
Valentiino

AliceSuyeong wrote:

Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical contact instead.
The only way the cursor can feel "slow" is coz of input lag, caused by something (aero + windowed mode on osu! does that)
Kennjin
Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?
YodaSnipe
omg wacom totemo lied to me. They was like NO! you can't use older gen pens on newer gen tablets. So I raged at osu! playing some map and broke my new gen tablet pen, only to find an older gen tablet pen and IT POOTIN' WORKED. Damn wacom you LIED TO ME T_T

/me cries in a corner.
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