[Luanny PhNyx] wrote:

hi Ono \:3
I will skip the easiest diffs since I'm still learning how to deal with them :c

[Taiko Muzukashii]
00:27:470 (6) - D here? The sound is the same as in 00:25:870 (2) - it's fine how it is
01:18:870 (3) - I miss a k here to follow that high pitched drum sound there okay
00:39:470 (1) - d here? I removed the triplet and could notice that (2) is higher so to make a difference between the sonds, 00:39:470 (1) - sounds perfect with d okay

[Taiko Oni]
00:27:470 (1) - The same as in Muzukashii D: Altough here this K fits because of the 'kkd' before it making it sound nice, I still think D is better here. Up to you. will keep it as before.
00:28:470 (2) - K here? because of the previous note (d) this note sounds more high pitched so K fits well here. You also did it on Muzukashii okay

[Taiko Inner Oni]
Loved this diff, lol

00:14:070 (3) - d here matches with 00:13:670 (3) - and 00:14:470 (1) - (k here sounds a little 'empty') woooooow, much better now! Thank you!
00:44:270 (3) - the sound here IS the same as in 00:44:070 (2) - but D here sounds and plays better because of your d k d k sequence you did before. k K D kkkkd in this case is better than those k's all in sequence (k K K kkkkd), since you used some d's constantly before and somehow my ears konda got used to its sound (nazi?) okay

[Taiko Ura Oni]
OMG dat stream xD
All fine to me here

lol as you said it was fast
Good luck \o

Thank you really much for mod~ you found there some good things~

[Luanny PhNyx] wrote:

[aabc's Taiko]
01:10:270 (1) - k here because drums. this note is higher pitched than 01:10:470 (2) - (even though the volume on this note is higher), so this two notes having almost the same sound is weird imo Seems reasonable. Fixed ~

lol everything else is perfect in this diff, imo Thx > <

Thx for your mod
Diff update : aabc's Taiko

I just remembered why I postponed the mod so much. It has shitloads of diffs. And I don't even like the song at all...

[General]

The diff naming is pretty inconsistent and weird.
I suggest this (since symbols are already shown in the game client):

Kantan
aabc's Futsuu
Muzukashii
Oni
aabc's Oni
Inner Oni
Ura Oni

Add 'taiko' to the tags to underline, that this is a taiko only mapset (for searching taiko diffs in beatmap listings) then.

[Taiko Kantan]

01:16:070 - place a don here? This way too empty imo, lol
01:16:870 (2) - make this a kat, based on her voice.
01:22:470 - again, don
01:23:270 (2) - again, kat

[aabc's Taiko Futsuu]

00:44:870 (1) - I wouldn't do a big kat here. Even if a new section begins, the song doesn't emphasize this spot self, enough.
01:13:670 (1) - same here.
01:15:670 - because of a missing don, the upcoming triplet starts too late. The vocals imply to start hitting earlier and without a note here, the whole pattern looks offtimed.
01:20:070 (3) - same here, not enough emphasizing to place a big one here.
01:22:070 - same issue as in 01:15:670

[Taiko Muzukashii]

00:04:070 (1,2,3) - I always thought we are doing the taiko specific mapsets to avoid drumroll spam... Replace them with simple dons (like in the other diffs) Or do this maybe: http://puu.sh/WA0E
But only the drumrolls look and sound like you forgot the half..
00:22:070 (1,1,1) - this should be kdk, because it sounds way better compared with previous 00:21:670 (1) - and upcoming 00:22:870 (2) -
00:27:170 (4) - I would remove this. This emphasizes the downbeat more.
00:47:870 (1) - this should be a kat, because 00:46:070 (1,2,1) - has the same melody movement and is made as kkd, too.
01:16:870 (1,1,2) - the vocals are moving downwards, so dkk is exactly the opposite of what the music calls for. kdd fits way more.
01:23:270 (2,3,1) - ^
01:25:670 (2) - remove repeat and add big kat on 01:26:270 - . There is nothing to drumroll over till the end. It just doesnt fit to finish a map like this. :S

[Taiko Oni]

00:07:270 - this misses a kat somehow. There is no syncope where you should leave the upbeat out.
00:28:870 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - believe me, this works way better: http://puu.sh/XcJV - there is no reason to place it as you did before. (especialy the syncopic one on the blue tick).
00:59:270 (4) - making this one a kat follows the music movement more (dk kd). If you don't want to follow the vocal here, then 00:59:670 (1) - as kat is pretty random.
01:06:070 - add a note for the sake of consistency
01:14:370 (2,1) - this makes absolutely no sense. Why you place a double here? And why does the double start on blue tick when the rhythm isn't syncopic at all? Moving 01:14:170 (1) - to 01:14:270 might solve it.
01:18:470 (1,1,2,1) - this is invented and doesn't fit. When I remove the notes I can hear nothing that sounds closely like this rhythm. Replace it with something else. But not this gapleaving doubles.

The kiai feels random to me. Sorry. Especially the parts where you try to follow the vocals.

[aabc's Taiko]

Can't say why, but the doubles seem to work here (unlike in the [Taiko Oni] diff) :S and I can't find a reason why.

00:08:870 (1,2,1) - I would do the same like in 00:07:270 (1,2,3) - . It fits the music way more imo.
01:19:270 (2,3,1,2,3) - kkkdd works better for me. The higher tone of Miku ends on 01:19:470 (1) - , not on 01:19:370 (3) -

That's all >w<

[Taiko Inner Oni]

00:30:470 (1,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2) - I prefer the 1/3 snapped stuff aabc used in his Taiko way more. It fits the music and the rhythm. The 1/4 stuff just feels overlayed and invented to me.

I'm surprised I didn't find more. D: Even though I don't like this mapping-every-note-I-can-hear-style.

[Taiko Ura Oni]

00:12:870 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1) - this works better for me: http://puu.sh/Xd07 - everything else sounds offbeat to me.
00:30:470 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - as mentioned in the Inner, I like the 1/3 more ;W;
00:32:370 (1) - this is overmapped and doesn't even create a cool sounding rhythm at all. Remove it.
00:33:970 (2) - ^
01:02:970 (2) - ^
01:14:570 (1) - move this on red tick. This syncope sounds stupid.
01:16:770 (2) - overmapped.

I didn't like this diff on any point. It's clearly mapped for difficulty and not to fit the song. The Inner should've been enough imo. Especially the 1/6 you placed are pure overmap and for the sake of difficulty. Same goes for the doubles (which fit sometimes in the song).
Just my two cents.


But there you go. As promised. Good luck with it!

Loctav wrote:

[aabc's Taiko Futsuu]

00:44:870 (1) - I wouldn't do a big kat here. Even if a new section begins, the song doesn't emphasize this spot self, enough. I'm not sure about this. imo using finishes for new sections separates different parts better, and I also used finish here in my oni diff. I'll see how the other modders think ~
01:13:670 (1) - same here. ^
01:15:670 - because of a missing don, the upcoming triplet starts too late. The vocals imply to start hitting earlier and without a note here, the whole pattern looks offtimed. Done. I just hope the kiai isn't too hard for newbies
01:20:070 (3) - same here, not enough emphasizing to place a big one here. Same for 00:44:870
01:22:070 - same issue as in 01:15:670 Same

[aabc's Taiko]

Can't say why, but the doubles seem to work here (unlike in the [Taiko Oni] diff) :S and I can't find a reason why. Just wondering which parts of doubles you're referring to :3 ~

00:08:870 (1,2,1) - I would do the same like in 00:07:270 (1,2,3) - . It fits the music way more imo. Really nice idea. Now the structure is better now
01:19:270 (2,3,1,2,3) - kkkdd works better for me. The higher tone of Miku ends on 01:19:470 (1) - , not on 01:19:370 (3) - Seems reasonable. Changed ~

That's all >w< >w< ~

Thx for your mod

Diff update :
aabc's Taiko
aabc's Futsuu

Loctav wrote:

I just remembered why I postponed the mod so much. It has shitloads of diffs. And I don't even like the song at all...

[General]

The diff naming is pretty inconsistent and weird. I will keep it how it is.

Add 'taiko' to the tags to underline, that this is a taiko only mapset (for searching taiko diffs in beatmap listings) then. Thought about this to, but there were allready some problems with some BAT's as I remember.

[Taiko Kantan]

01:16:070 - place a don here? This way too empty imo, lol ok
01:16:870 (2) - make this a kat, based on her voice. I will keep it how it is, since k d k is allready hard.
01:22:470 - again, don ok
01:23:270 (2) - again, kat same here

[Taiko Muzukashii]

00:04:070 (1,2,3) - I always thought we are doing the taiko specific mapsets to avoid drumroll spam... Replace them with simple dons (like in the other diffs) Or do this maybe: http://puu.sh/WA0E I take the first solution because you are not the first who said that.
But only the drumrolls look and sound like you forgot the half..
00:22:070 (1,1,1) - this should be kdk, because it sounds way better compared with previous 00:21:670 (1) - and upcoming 00:22:870 (2) - Nope. To be honest k dkd d plays way better then k kdk d, also I kept the same beat as before.
00:27:170 (4) - I would remove this. This emphasizes the downbeat more. normaly I would use kkkkd, but that's allready considered as hard. And kkk d K or kkk k K sounds not that nice to me.
00:47:870 (1) - this should be a kat, because 00:46:070 (1,2,1) - has the same melody movement and is made as kkd, too. No, because that was pure intension from me. Tryed to variate the patterns.
01:16:870 (1,1,2) - the vocals are moving downwards, so dkk is exactly the opposite of what the music calls for. kdd fits way more.
01:23:270 (2,3,1) - ^ I don't map allways just with the vocal or beat. That was also intension from me.
01:25:670 (2) - remove repeat and add big kat on 01:26:270 - . There is nothing to drumroll over till the end. It just doesnt fit to finish a map like this. :S There is. Don't need to say anything else.

[Taiko Oni]

00:07:270 - this misses a kat somehow. There is no syncope where you should leave the upbeat out. Good!
00:28:870 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - believe me, this works way better: http://puu.sh/XcJV - there is no reason to place it as you did before. (especialy the syncopic one on the blue tick). Sorry but I will not change this part. In all diffs I have put some of my own beats in.
00:59:270 (4) - making this one a kat follows the music movement more (dk kd). If you don't want to follow the vocal here, then 00:59:670 (1) - as kat is pretty random. I like how it is also because i planed to used just two kats in this whole section.
01:06:070 - add a note for the sake of consistency Why should I change it when I followed the same beat over and over again in this two sections?
01:14:370 (2,1) - this makes absolutely no sense. Why you place a double here? And why does the double start on blue tick when the rhythm isn't syncopic at all? Moving 01:14:170 (1) - to 01:14:270 might solve it.
01:18:470 (1,1,2,1) - this is invented and doesn't fit. When I remove the notes I can hear nothing that sounds closely like this rhythm. Replace it with something else. But not this gapleaving doubles. I like it in this way more and it is not wrong to put sometimes your own beats somewere as for example Namco do it somtimes(I don't take namco as measure, it's just an example because I do this kind of stuff sometimes.)

The kiai feels random to me. Sorry. Especially the parts where you try to follow the vocals. I didn't even mapped to the vocal in the kiai time. Most beats are from me mixed to the beat from the song itself.

[Taiko Inner Oni]

00:30:470 (1,2,3,1,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2) - I prefer the 1/3 snapped stuff aabc used in his Taiko way more. It fits the music and the rhythm. The 1/4 stuff just feels overlayed and invented to me. I agree.

I'm surprised I didn't find more. D: Even though I don't like this mapping-every-note-I-can-hear-style. It's noooot. Man solangsam hasse ich diese behauptung. Stimmt doch gar nicht -.-

[Taiko Ura Oni]

00:12:870 (1,1,1,1,2,1,1,2,1) - this works better for me: http://puu.sh/Xd07 - everything else sounds offbeat to me. Maa, I'm fine with yours and mine, so I will just keep how it is.
00:30:470 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2) - as mentioned in the Inner, I like the 1/3 more ;W; Yes!
00:32:370 (1) - this is overmapped and doesn't even create a cool sounding rhythm at all. Remove it. I agree.
00:33:970 (2) - ^ I agree.
01:02:970 (2) - ^ It's fine how it is.
01:14:570 (1) - move this on red tick. This syncope sounds stupid. I agree.
01:16:770 (2) - overmapped. I don't know what your view of overmapping is, but it's not.


But there you go. As promised. Good luck with it!

Yeah, thank you for mod Loctav!

Rechecking.

[Kantan]

1. 01:23:270 (4) - How about changing it to big don or even big kat to follow the drum sound?

[aabc's Futsuu]

1. 00:35:270 (1) - k here?
2. 01:23:270 (1) - Same as Kantan.

[aabc's Taiko]

1. Consider renaming this to aabc's Taiko Oni since you have marked on the difficulty on every diffs.

kanpakyin wrote:

Rechecking.

[aabc's Futsuu]

1. 00:35:270 (1) - k here? I'll say d fits better. You can hear that the instrument at 00:33:670 has a higher pitch than here ~
2. 01:23:270 (1) - Same as Kantan. OK~

[aabc's Taiko]

1. Consider renaming this to aabc's Taiko Oni since you have marked on the difficulty on every diffs. I actually talked sth similar to Ono before. We agreed to use the current name because my diffs have a pattern of "aabc's xxx", but not "aabc's xxx yyy". I use "aabc's Taiko" instead of "aabc's Oni" because I always use the "Taiko" one, and I see very few maps have the "Oni" structure. PM me if you need more explanation .__.
   Also accepting 01:23:270 k -> K ( Talked in PM )

Thx for your mod
Update :
aabc's Taiko
aabc's Futsuu

kanpakyin wrote:

Rechecking.

[Kantan]

1. 01:23:270 (4) - How about changing it to big don or even big kat to follow the drum sound? As I said in the PM, I think it's better to keep it how it is since d d D is considered as hard in a Kantan. Also would need to change the other parts with a hit-finish as well.

Updated~

Bubbled!

Thank you really much kanpakyin~

gogogo Ono! \o\

Let's see what will happen, huh?
I guess I need to add ,,taiko" into the tags.

[General]

a reminder: You wanted to add 'taiko' to the tags

[Kantan]

seems fine~

[aabc's Futsuu]

00:41:670 (1) - the notepitch isnt high enough to justify the kat here. Do a don.
00:46:470 (1) - has the same voice height and drum as 00:44:870 (1) - . do a kat.

[Taiko Muzukashii]

00:47:870 (1) - this follows the same as 00:46:270 (2) - . Do a kat.

[aabc's Taiko]

01:19:070 - this spot was troublesome for me. The kkkdd didn't fit. this seemed to be the best solution for me instead: http://puu.sh/11rBz

[Taiko Oni]

00:28:870 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this made no sense to me. Do a full donstream instead or do don triplets. You left out the stressed upbeats (white ticks) and 00:29:970 (9) - is offplaced. If you remove the pattern, you can hear a stress on every white tick. If you don't want to do a full donstream (which I suggest due to Oni'ness), try to stress those ones instead of those syncopic stuff, which isnt in the music self. :[

[Taiko Inner Oni]

seems fine~

[Taiko Ura Oni]

00:30:470 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - this should have the same pattern as in the Inner Oni. Seriously. :S

Call me back when fixed.

I'm downloading this because it's taiko and it's a great song. If I have any problems with it I'll 'mod' it for you.

no problems to report. Great song.

Loctav wrote:

The diff naming is pretty inconsistent and weird.
I suggest this (since symbols are already shown in the game client):

Kantan
aabc's Futsuu
Muzukashii
Oni
aabc's Oni
Inner Oni
Ura Oni

I agree with this. Ono, please, just rename them, the way Loctav is suggesting it looks much better.
Check how people name their taiko-only mapsets:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/57381
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/55920

Mithost wrote:

I'm downloading this because it's taiko and it's a great song. If I have any problems with it I'll 'mod' it for you.

no problems to report. Great song.

Great to hear that thank you!

@grumd: I understand. Thought also about it many times. Will ask aabc as well.

@Loctav: ,,taiko" has been addeted in tag and one mod. I will look later thorugh the ther suggestions. Waiting for aabc for now~

Don't forget to list up in detail what you accepted and with exact reasoning if you have refused something.
Else it's harder for me to backtrack the changes you two have made.

My Internet connection is having some issues atm
So I can't connect to the Internet in pc and check the mod right now
Will probably be back and fix the diff tmr. Sry ;w;

Loctav wrote:

[General]

a reminder: You wanted to add 'taiko' to the tags added


[Taiko Muzukashii]

00:47:870 (1) - this follows the same as 00:46:270 (2) - . Do a kat. done

[Taiko Oni]

00:28:870 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - this made no sense to me. Do a full donstream instead or do don triplets. You left out the stressed upbeats (white ticks) and 00:29:970 (9) - is offplaced. If you remove the pattern, you can hear a stress on every white tick. If you don't want to do a full donstream (which I suggest due to Oni'ness), try to stress those ones instead of those syncopic stuff, which isnt in the music self. :[ To be honest I want to keep them. It was intension from me to put own beats and I feel really confortabel and well with them.

[Taiko Ura Oni]

00:30:470 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - this should have the same pattern as in the Inner Oni. Seriously. :S done

Call me back when fixed.

Also I have deleted the ,,taiko" in the diff names!

Loctav wrote:

[aabc's Futsuu]

00:41:670 (1) - the notepitch isnt high enough to justify the kat here. Do a don. As the previous note is also d, using d here is kind of monotone, and imo k fits the vocal better
00:46:470 (1) - has the same voice height and drum as 00:44:870 (1) - . do a kat. I use d here because it has a significantly lower pitch than 00:48:070. For me, the current patterns are just fine and so I think it's OK to keep unchanged

[aabc's Taiko]

01:19:070 - this spot was troublesome for me. The kkkdd didn't fit. this seemed to be the best solution for me instead: http://puu.sh/11rBz Talked irc and I agreed to change kkkdd to kkd d

Call me back when fixed.

Thx for your mod
Talked irc and I agreed to rename "aabc's Taiko" to "aabc's Oni"
Update : aabc's Oni

Thank you aabc~
renamed aabc's Taiko to aabc's Oni

and changed in the oni the 00:28:870 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - to kkkk kk kkkk kk after talking to Loctav in IRC.

Are we sure that everything is allright now?

There we go~

Thank you really much Loctav~

Loctav wrote:

There we go~

Your first rank? :>

Congratulation \o/

wow

EDIT: shouldn't the source be Vocaloid 2?

Nice Ono.

taiko mapset!!! Congratz~

Let's fix the source/tag thing.

I just laughed.
Go for re-rank c:

Fixed them, sorry. Was my fault.

I guess you should also add vocaloid2 in tags?

Philippines wrote:

I guess you should also add vocaloid2 in tags?

I think "vocaloid" is enough. :S

Well. Okay.
Changed following things.
Artist -> Kurousa-P
Tags -> added "vocaloid" and "hatsune miku"
Source -> wiped out.

Reranked.

Nice nice nice nice!

Thank you. lol

I just gifted my birthday present to you.
Oh yes.

You've unlocked a new achievement


lol.

Congrats! \o

Oh, and congrats to Loctav's first obligatory Rank!

first rank and first unrank lol

Loctav wrote:

You've unlocked a new achievement


lol.

lol yes .... and gratz for both of you =w=/

I wonder why the artist isn't Hatsune Miku and the source isn't Kurousa-P.
anyway,congratz