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Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero [Osu|Taiko]

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Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Boss's Mod

bossandy wrote:

Hi hi~
 
 
[ General]
 
  1. Maybe add Lech , Nech , Shiranui , Soundtrack to tags? Added~
  2. Add this code to Insan3 , like other diff
    SkinPreference:okami
    Added prefered skin to Insan3 diff.
  3. Add Skin's download link to creater's word? , I think anybody don't know where to download the skin "okami"
    Added Skins source~
  4. scroll_flip.wav 's volume is a bit loud , change the volume down?
This is okay in my ears.
 
[ Easy]
 
  1. 00:21:744 (1) - Mute hitsounds is UNRANKBLE! You should add clap or finish end done
  2. 00:24:410 (1) - Same as above done
  3. 00:36:188 (2) - Delete this circle , I think it is excess , If you delete this note , It will be more good for me and others I think done
  4. 01:19:077 (2) - ^ done
     
    [ Normal]
     
    1. 00:52:244 - Make sure the break start is snapped Didnt understand to be honest.
    2. 00:21:299 - Change whistle to clap? I think it is better way to change it , hmm... It's up to you xDD done
    3. 01:21:077 (3) - change clap to finish end , like other part done
    4. 01:23:910 - Hmm... Move this Green Timing Section to 01:23:744, I think Soft-Hitwhistle is on white tick , not red tick. oh! also move 01:24:077 to 01:23:910
done

Okay still on my to-do-list:
- Changing Combo Colors.

Usefull mod with a good structure, 40/50 points worth at least~
Thx.
Tenshi-nyan
No changes for my diff, ok.
popner
Hi ~ Mod request from My Queue.

Just suggestions:

[General]
  1. Use consistent combo colours in all diffs?
  2. Open letterbox in Taiko Oni to make consistent?
  3. Add Kiai in Tenshi's Hard like other diffs?
[SB]
01:05:521 - put these sakura under black bars? (Also, I think you should add some rotation so it will looks better)

[Easy]
Fine~

[Normal]
01:07:077 (1,3) - nazi - not so symmetric

[Tenshi's Hard]
01:19:077 (1,2,3) - this pattern is more difficult than Insane, so decrease the space between them?

[Insan3]
00:03:632 (4) - the music is not so strong at the beginning, so i suggest delete this
00:04:299 (6,7) - put them like this? http://puu.sh/yf17
00:04:855 - add note? feel empty
00:09:521 - ^
00:16:855 (2,3) - the space between them is similar to 00:17:077 (3,4), so it will mislead player.
00:21:744 (1,2) - ^ so add a note at 00:21:855? (stack with (1)). also add note here 00:23:188
00:27:188 - 00:28:521 - ^
00:33:855 - ^

That's all I can find. GL~
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Combo Colors in Easy, Normal, Hard and even in Taiko are similar now.
p3n doesn't want to change Combo Colors, Tenshi doesn't want kiai times in his diff.
This is nothing unrankable at all, I could use different Combo Colors and BG's in every diff If I wanted to, so please:

- stop naziing my Combo Colors -

So there were three Modders now who didn't had anything else to say than Change Colors, Kiai Time and minor nazi stuff.
I believe this Map is ready.
p3n
lol combocolours lol

btw...where is the upload button? what the hell is happening here...

http://puu.sh/z0j9 <--- update
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Updated.
Combo Colors are all equal now~
Leorda
Oh! Long time no see!


[Easy]
01:18:855 - Add note here? Like 01:16:188 (2)?


[Normal]
00:36:855 (3) - Move to 00:37:077 and add note at 00:36:855 for following rhythm. Just like 00:34:188 (2,3)


[Tenshi's Hard]
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle at sliderbody, it's annoying
00:17:966 - Add note here or add slider and end at 00:18:188?
00:18:188 - ^
00:35:966 (2) - Add clap at end slider?


[Taiko Oni]
* This Taiko Oni doesn't need a storyboard sound...

00:09:744 (13) - Don?
00:32:855 (4) - Kat?
00:34:188 (13) - ^
00:35:521 (22) - ^
00:37:299 (30) - Big Kat?
00:37:744 (31) - Big Don?


[Insan3]
00:45:521 (3,4) - Remove whistle and add clap?


That's all I got orz

EDIT : this song is reminds me of Heartfelt Fancy and Septette of Dead Princess.....
p3n

Leorda wrote:

[Insan3]
00:45:521 (3,4) - Remove whistle and add clap? I like to have it similar to the part at 00:56:188 (3,4) so while it doesn't sound bad it would be inconsistent. I'll keep it as is ;)
Can Dunskin haz bubble now (or after he replies)? :(
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Leo's Mod

Leorda wrote:

Oh! Long time no see! o/


[Easy]
01:18:855 - Add note here? Like 01:16:188 (2)? No sry, removed it because of bossandys mod ^^


[Normal]
00:36:855 (3) - Move to 00:37:077 and add note at 00:36:855 for following rhythm. Just like 00:34:188 (2,3)
Hm? I believe this 1/3 Slider fits good to the flute :/

[Tenshi's Hard]
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle at sliderbody, it's annoying Fixed for Tenshi
00:35:966 (2) - Add clap at end slider? Fixed for Tenshi


[Taiko Oni]
* This Taiko Oni doesn't need a storyboard sound...
Like I said in the description, theres a bug in the Editor which doesn't let me do that. Whenever I try to put the custom Soundevents into the .osu-file instead in the .osb, it results in getting a horrible loud Sound. This is because the .osb is recreating itself everytime I update and is not fixable so far :/ I remember Lybydose having the same Problem in one of his Maps lol.

00:09:744 (13) - Don? Nope
00:32:855 (4) - Kat? okay
00:34:188 (13) - ^ okay
00:35:521 (22) - ^ okay
00:37:299 (30) - Big Kat? okay, did it for the second kiai too
00:37:744 (31) - Big Don? okay, did it for the second kiai too


That's all I got orz

EDIT : this song is reminds me of Heartfelt Fancy and Septette of Dead Princess.....
Yeah it's quite dramatic lol. Which reminds me I should map more ZUN songs again ^^

Okay took over Taiko Suggestions and Hitsounds for Tenshi~
Updated.
Shulin
So you shouldn't play this Map if you:
- did'nt play the Game (Shame on you! Get out and buy it - seriously)
Okay I'll just leave... oh wait! I came to mod, I have some suggestions for you ~

[General]

  1. I suggest removing kiai from all diffs (except Tenshi's which doesn't have it). I don't think it's necessary, you have a lovely SB and some strobes already; what's the point of adding more flashing?
  2. Dark blue combo colour blends in too well with black parts of the SB like 00:00:410 - maybe increase the lum to about 85-100 or choose a lighter colour you like.
  3. Not a big issue but the BG has awful black borders at the top and bottom, it'd be great if you could find a BG without this because the current one doesn't look great.
  4. Add black fade out to the end of the SB, it's odd having to see the BG right at the end of the map.
[Easy]

  1. Why 80% volume at the start and at 00:53:744 you should keep this consistent with Normal and change it to 40% (and 60% if you follow my suggestion) in these places.
00:28:188 (2,3) - Move this down 4 squares (grid 4). Ugly overlap in game.
00:33:521 (2,3) - Move it right 1 square (grid 4). Again, unncessary ugly overlap.
00:40:410 (1) - Reduce the volume on this a bit, 40% is good.
01:08:188 (2,3) - Move right 1, down 1 (grid 4).
01:16:188 (2,3) - Down 2 squares (grid 4).
01:23:077 (1) - 40% volume.

[Normal]

  1. 00:11:077 to 00:21:521 - volume 60%?
  2. 00:53:744 to 01:04:188 - volume 60%
[Tenshi's Hard]

00:14:299 (3) - Delete? Rhythm sounds better without it imo.
00:14:632 (5,6) - Sorry but these small sliders are awful at this SV, don't play well at all imho. I think they would be better replaced as circles.
00:15:632 (8) - ^
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle from the slider body.
00:16:632 (2,3) - Spacing? It's spaced like 1/3 when it's 1/6. Compare the spacing with 00:13:077 (1,2) -
00:17:632 (4) - Same thing about this small slider.
00:19:632 (3) - ^
01:04:299 (4) - Delete? Sounds better to me.
01:23:632 (2) - Delete and replace with note at 01:23:744 - instead? Follows the rhythm of the song better at this part.

[Insan3]

  1. For me this diff didn't follow the pace of the song. Sure, it's hardish and has lots of jumps but I don't think it suits the song.
00:05:077 (1,2,3) - Why's the jump so big? It doesn't really fit; just compare it to how you mapped the same music 00:15:744 (2) - 00:31:744 (4,5,6) - etc)
00:05:521 (3) - Add whistle?
00:08:410 (1,2) - Keep the same rhythm as 00:09:744 (3,4,5) - or maybe end 00:08:410 (1) - sooner at 00:08:855 - and add some notes after. Right now it just sounds odd, there's no drum beat in the song at 00:08:966 but you have one and then there's the gap that makes no sense when you compare it to 00:05:744 (1,2,3,4) -
00:32:188 (6) - Add whistle here?
00:41:299 (2,3) - ^
01:07:521 (2,3,4) - Huge jump for no reason? It comes out of nowhere and there's nothing in the music that seems justify the biggest jump in the map.
01:13:077 (5) - New combo? Helps readability of 01:13:521 (7) - imo

Nice work with the SB, hitsounding and mapping an interesting song.
Tenshi-nyan

Shulin wrote:

[Tenshi's Hard]

00:14:299 (3) - Delete? Rhythm sounds better without it imo. Sounds better the way it is to me.
00:14:632 (5,6) - Sorry but these small sliders are awful at this SV, don't play well at all imho. I think they would be better replaced as circles. re-worked this part.
00:15:632 (8) - ^ but not this one. It's fine to me.
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle from the slider body. how did that even get there?
00:16:632 (2,3) - Spacing? It's spaced like 1/3 when it's 1/6. Compare the spacing with 00:13:077 (1,2) - I like this spacing, it's easy enough to read IMO. And I don't want them sliders touching each other.
00:17:632 (4) - Same thing about this small slider. I remember this not being the way it is. I wonder if DarkDunskin changed this without my permisson?
00:19:632 (3) - ^ no.
01:04:299 (4) - Delete? Sounds better to me. nope
01:23:632 (2) - Delete and replace with note at 01:23:744 - instead? Follows the rhythm of the song better at this part. hm. nope.
Hm.

http://puu.sh/Bxyl

Just hand out that damn bubble, this map is already over-modded right now.
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Shulin's Mod

Shulin wrote:

[General]

  1. I suggest removing kiai from all diffs (except Tenshi's which doesn't have it). I don't think it's necessary, you have a lovely SB and some strobes already; what's the point of adding more flashing? Removed all Kiai's except Taiko, because it has no SB.
  2. Dark blue combo colour blends in too well with black parts of the SB like 00:00:410 - maybe increase the lum to about 85-100 or choose a lighter colour you like. Chosena lighter blue for all diffs
  3. Not a big issue but the BG has awful black borders at the top and bottom, it'd be great if you could find a BG without this because the current one doesn't look great. Removed black bars and resized with Photo-Editor
  4. Add black fade out to the end of the SB, it's odd having to see the BG right at the end of the map.Osu-BG vanisehd~


[Easy]

  1. Why 80% volume at the start and at 00:53:744 you should keep this consistent with Normal and change it to 40% (and 60% if you follow my suggestion) in these places.
made it consistent with normal

00:28:188 (2,3) - Move this down 4 squares (grid 4). Ugly overlap in game. done
00:33:521 (2,3) - Move it right 1 square (grid 4). Again, unncessary ugly overlap. done
00:40:410 (1) - Reduce the volume on this a bit, 40% is good.fixed
01:08:188 (2,3) - Move right 1, down 1 (grid 4). fixed
01:16:188 (2,3) - Down 2 squares (grid 4). done
01:23:077 (1) - 40% volume. yup

[Normal]

  1. 00:11:077 to 00:21:521 - volume 60%? accepted
  2. 00:53:744 to 01:04:188 - volume 60%
cool

Thanks for you Mod and Star, I hope you will recheck after p3n's update~
p3n

Shulin wrote:

[Insan3]

  1. For me this diff didn't follow the pace of the song. Sure, it's hardish and has lots of jumps but I don't think it suits the song.
then you are the first one to think that way. but whatever...can't please everyone ;)

00:05:077 (1,2,3) - Why's the jump so big? It doesn't really fit; just compare it to how you mapped the same music 00:15:744 (2) - 00:31:744 (4,5,6) - etc) jump seems fine as it picks up the volume change
00:05:521 (3) - Add whistle? sure, since you are the 3rd one to want a whistle right here
00:08:410 (1,2) - Keep the same rhythm as 00:09:744 (3,4,5) - or maybe end 00:08:410 (1) - sooner at 00:08:855 - and add some notes after. Right now it just sounds odd, there's no drum beat in the song at 00:08:966 but you have one and then there's the gap that makes no sense when you compare it to 00:05:744 (1,2,3,4) - I changed it to something I think turned out pretty well as it is easy and repeatitive (jk it is better now)
00:32:188 (6) - Add whistle here? errrrr ok
00:41:299 (2,3) - ^ nope
01:07:521 (2,3,4) - Huge jump for no reason? It comes out of nowhere and there's nothing in the music that seems justify the biggest jump in the map. again volume and fits rather well in terms of flow
01:13:077 (5) - New combo? Helps readability of 01:13:521 (7) - imo well it used to be a NC here...but ppl keep constantly bitching about my "readability NCs"....you are awesom for acknowledging something like that

I'm a bit sad you don't "like" that rather old-school mapping style but as I said I can't please everyone. Changed the on-beat part in the beginning to be more predictable from a players perspective (one who never heard the song - so yeah it is similar to 1/2 spam that is in EVERY map nowadays but really easy to get).


@DD: Hope this gets done soon. All of the last 5-6 mods were nothing but personal suggestions (which I appreciate very much) or useless "NC here NC there" mods. If there isn't anything technically wrong or against ranking criteria I wouldn't change anything further. The map is hardly the same I uploaded in the first place...it begins to feel less like "my" map and more like a "patchwork" if I change it even further.

Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero (DarkDunskin) [Insan3]
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Everything up-to-date. Now trying to get one of those 6 MAT's back for a recheck -.-
Shulin
I'm here ~

[Normal]

This now has some unsnapped slider ends that weren't there before here are the locations:

00:36:827 (3) -
00:40:827 (3) -
01:00:160 (5) -
01:19:494 (3) -
01:23:494 (3) -

If you can fix these that'd be great.

[Tenshi's Hard]

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

00:16:632 (2,3) - Spacing? It's spaced like 1/3 when it's 1/6. Compare the spacing with 00:13:077 (1,2) - I like this spacing, it's easy enough to read IMO. And I don't want them sliders touching each other.
Still disagree with this, the jump isn't intuitive and there's no real way of telling it's a 1/6 jump without looking in editor or playing it several times; it's just bad spacing and the slider overlap isn't even that ugly. If it still feels too cramped you could always move 00:16:410 (1,2,3,4,5) - to the irght of 00:15:966 (9) - but this needs fixing for me.

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

01:23:632 (2) - Delete and replace with note at 01:23:744 - instead? Follows the rhythm of the song better at this part. hm. nope.
Any reason? Just tested it again and it really does flow better with this section.

[Insane]

01:24:188 (1) - If you could change this new combo to the middle blue colour it's easier to read.

I'm cool with everything else. If you still disagree you're welcome to call someone else just let me know.
Tenshi-nyan
Fine, fixed both of them now.

http://puu.sh/BRgD
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin

Shulin wrote:

I'm here ~
Unexpected, but a nice surprise :D

[Normal]

This now has some unsnapped slider ends that weren't there before here are the locations:
Not only unsnapped sliderend, it seem the whole map got a bit off so I full resnapped everything.

00:36:827 (3) - done
00:40:827 (3) - done
01:00:160 (5) - done
01:19:494 (3) - done
01:23:494 (3) - done

If you can fix these that'd be great.

[Insane]

01:24:188 (1) - If you could change this new combo to the middle blue colour it's easier to read. Fixed for p3n
Shulin
And we're good to go.
Xakyrie
yaaaaay finally a bubble \T T/ ~
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Alright, thanks Shulin :D

Now trying to get wmf rechecking this Map again -.-
wmfchris
[General]
- Considering you're not applying any SB to taiko diff, and the .osb is making scrolling sound corresponding to the SB, just merge .osb into .osu. (and then delete osb and full submit =P)
- So Pereira006 doesn't really mapped the GD to be ranked? In this case I'm not really sure whether he should be tagged (e.g. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21754 where Doomsday made a diff)

[Taiko]
00:47:744 - Like what you've done before it's preferred to use a kdk / dkd stuff to fit the flute in the music. Consider dkkdk?

[Hard]
I'll suggest a HP-1 since this is just a hard. (as HP in insane is the same)
00:06:632 (3) - Just a spacing that you can easily fix. down 1 grid lv4
00:13:744 (2,3,4,5,6) - sounds a bit akward comparing with the quiet music background (don't have better solution but orz)
00:19:632 (3,4,5) - ^

[Normal]
01:00:188 (5) - clap at the beginning like you've done before?

looks ready, so when they're fixed just call me.
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin

wmfchris wrote:

[General]
- Considering you're not applying any SB to taiko diff, and the .osb is making scrolling sound corresponding to the SB, just merge .osb into .osu. (and then delete osb and full submit =P)

Sorry I can not change that. If I put the Storyboard into .osu instead of .osb the Storyboardsounds gets twice as loud because the .osb will automatically recreate itself or something like that. That's a Bug and has not been fixed so far. Talk with Lybydose about that if you don't believe it, he has the same Problem on this Map: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/40339/start=30

- So Pereira006 doesn't really mapped the GD to be ranked? In this case I'm not really sure whether he should be tagged (e.g. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21754 where Doomsday made a diff) Okay, untagged pereira006

[Taiko]
00:47:744 - Like what you've done before it's preferred to use a kdk / dkd stuff to fit the flute in the music. Consider dkkdk?
Sorry I don't like dkkdk Combos at all :/

[Hard]
I'll suggest a HP-1 since this is just a hard. (as HP in insane is the same) done
00:06:632 (3) - Just a spacing that you can easily fix. down 1 grid lv4 fixed
00:13:744 (2,3,4,5,6) - sounds a bit akward comparing with the quiet music background (don't have better solution but orz) okay
00:19:632 (3,4,5) - ^ sure

[Normal]
01:00:188 (5) - clap at the beginning like you've done before? done

looks ready, so when they're fixed just call me.
wmfchris
Merged .osb into .osu diff after discussion.

The SB is awesome, and deserve a rank.
Regou
Congrats first :)

but...shouldn't the BPM be 135? @@
HellDawn
Congratz
LunarSakuya
FINALYYYYYYYYYYYY LOVE THIS SONGGGG ever since i modded it
Mercurial
Congratz man!
YTYuyu
OMG FINALLY :o. congratz on the rank ;)
Dino99
Hey~~ gratz x3
bossandy
DDS! DDS! Congratulation with Ranked!
Yasora
congrats~
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Thanks to all who helped me out here and others as well~
Frizz
Gratz~
OnosakiHito
Congratulation~
Kurowolfe
Congratz for the rank~
Now just need to get mine there to accompany this song... /orz
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