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Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero [Osu|Taiko]

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DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin

LunarSakuya wrote:

hihi

Easy
01:21:521 (2,3) - Something like this: http://puu.sh/mm25, seems to match your previous patterns fixed

Normal
01:00:188 (5,6) - Make a slider instead fixed

Tenshi's Hard
00:11:077 (1,2,3) - Inconsistent spacing? fixed

Insan3
00:21:077 (9) - NC to indicate sudden distance change fixed
01:03:744 (7) - NC fixed

Beautiful song and SB!!
Thanks for your mod and star Lunar~
The rest I didnt mention is up to p3n and tenshi, I'll tell them as soon they're on again.
wmfchris
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Joined March 2008
wmfchris
[General]

- normal-hitnormal.wav and soft-hitnormal.wav is empty, and the 44byte blank.wav should be used.
- letterbox during breaks is not necessary in [Taiko]

[Taiko]

00:09:744 - it's not recommended to used such streams that d-k pattern does not fit the song. In the music the durm sounds like x xxx x x x so the drum pattern should still placed in the manner of 4 in a group
00:53:410 - just wonder if it ends with kdk it may make a larger contrast with the coming D
01:23:077 - same as 0:09, this stream does not sounds to fit the song

The beats are really song and a nice one. Just some thoughts on around 0:53 - 2nd kiai where x xxx X xxx X is repeated frequently, it sounds like the first x can be finished as well.
DarkDunskin
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Joined April 2009
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DarkDunskin

wmfchris wrote:

[General]

- normal-hitnormal.wav and soft-hitnormal.wav is empty, and the 44byte blank.wav should be used. - fixed
- letterbox during breaks is not necessary in [Taiko] - fixed

[Taiko]

00:09:744 - it's not recommended to used such streams that d-k pattern does not fit the song. In the music the durm sounds like x xxx x x x so the drum pattern should still placed in the manner of 4 in a group changed to x xxx xxxxx
00:53:410 - just wonder if it ends with kdk it may make a larger contrast with the coming D No, I like it more as it was.
01:23:077 - same as 0:09, this stream does not sounds to fit the song changed to x xxx xxxxx

The beats are really song and a nice one. Wut ^^ - I guess I know what you tryed to say, thanks XD
Just some thoughts on around 0:53 - 2nd kiai where x xxx X xxx X is repeated frequently, it sounds like the first x can be finished as well.
Two finish are enough, people don't like too much finish's anyway :/
Thanks for your mod and suggestions~
p3n
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p3n

LunarSakuya wrote:

Insan3
00:21:077 (9) - NC to indicate sudden distance change done
00:31:299 (9,10,11) - Highlight these and Ctrl + R
00:34:077 (5) - Move a little to the left so you can see (7,8) http://puu.sh/mmal moved (7) a bit more, moving (5) feels weird
01:00:410 (7) - Border-line burai, maybe redesign slider is fully visible, track is not hidden under itself, no hold. "Burai" sliders are completely different ;)
01:03:744 (7) - NC done
01:16:410 (4,5) - Make a slider instead? seems fine for me
01:24:521 (1) - Soft Custom, Finish at end done
thanks for the mod o/

update:
Download: Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero (DarkDunskin) [Insan3].osu
Xakyrie
667 posts
Joined February 2011
Xakyrie
okay it's been so long since I modded ;w; and since I'm going to be involved in a queue now, I need to clear this as soon as possible, so what better time than now =q= again, sorry for such the long wait, I'll make sure it's extra helpful. :v

General
  1. Kiai times are missing in the following diffs:
    1. Tenshi's Hard
    2. Insan3
  2. Maybe try to give them some kiai time? While you're at it, make sure all kiai times are consistent. As you know, taiko is an execption.
  3. There are breaks in the following diffs:
    1. Easy
    2. Normal
  4. Consider possibly making the breaks consistent in all diffs or just simply mapping in these parts. Of course, this is only a suggestion.
  5. Maybe add a slightly toned white to combo colours? Okami is white :3 Also, some of the colours look almost the same, consider making them a little more distinct. xD
  6. The combo colours as a set differ in the following diffs:
    1. Insan3
  7. consider getting that fixed too! ^^


Easy
song setup
  1. AR +1 (to 4)?

note arrangement
  1. 00:21:744 (1) - this is sort of overlapped, maybe we can clean it up D: ?
    lets try this
    basically, the (1) is moved over more, and (3) is stacked on the previous slider. this is much more clean and everything is distance snapped. :3
    480,184,21744,6,0,B|484:256|420:296,1,120,4|0
    352,304,22855,1,8
    316,288,23077,2,8,B|192:288,1,120,4|8
  2. 00:28:410 (3) - blanket the (1) more?
  3. 00:31:077 (3) - ^
  4. 01:05:521 (2) - from this point on, if you could, try avoiding so many stacks. It might be quite confusing to new players to read the approach circle and not knowing where to read it from because the circle and slider combination might be too much.

hitsounding
  1. 00:00:410 (1) - clap at beginning to match other slider? o.o
  2. 00:18:410 (3) - remove clap?
  3. for the following, you can carry out either lists in order to create consistency:
  4. a:
    1. 00:27:077 (1) - remove clap on end?
    2. 00:29:744 (1) - ^
    3. 00:32:410 (1) - ^
    4. 00:35:077 (1) - ^
    5. 00:37:744 (1) - ^
    6. 01:04:410 (1) - ^
    7. 01:07:077 (1) - ^
    8. 01:09:744 (1) - ^
    9. 01:12:410 (1) - ^
    10. 01:15:077 (1) - ^
    11. 01:17:744 (1) - ^
    12. 01:20:410 (1) - remove clap at beginning and clap at end?
  5. b:
    1. 00:21:744 (1) - add clap on end.
    2. 00:24:410 (1) - ^

volume points
  1. only thing I can suggest is make sure at kiai times, the volume is louder than the other sections. whether you choose to lower the original volume and keep the original volume for the kiai or keep the original volume and increase it for kiai is up to you.

new combos
  1. no problem here actually o.o

comments

very repetitive, try making it a little more creative besides using the same curved and straight sliders. besides the creativity level being low and pointed out things, everything seems to be in order.


Normal
song setup
  1. HP Drain Rate +1 at least x.x
  2. Circle Size -1 to the biggest size available.
  3. AR +1?

note arrangement
  1. 00:16:855 (1,2) - stack on previous notes located here?
  2. 00:23:966 (4) - remove?
  3. 00:27:744 (4) -
    like this maybe?
  4. 00:29:078 (2) - ^
  5. 01:06:632 (4) - delete?

hitsounding
  1. 00:00:410 (1) - clap at beginning?
  2. 00:12:188 (3) - whistle instead.
  3. 00:12:410 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  4. 00:14:855 (3) - whistle instead.
  5. 00:15:077 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  6. 00:15:744 (5) - finish at end.
  7. 00:17:521 (3) - whistle instead.
  8. 00:17:744 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  9. 00:20:188 (3) - whistle instead.
  10. 00:20:410 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  11. 00:21:077 (5) - should be whistle whistle clap <--- do this for all of these kinds of repeats in this diff!
  12. 00:21:744 (1) - whistle on end instead.
  13. I think you can see the pattern by now. This is the kind of hitsound pattern that you were probably looking for, it got a little muddled though, lol. =3= If you need help adjusting these, pm me and I'll go over it with you.

volume points
  1. this seems okay too.

new combos
  1. 00:24:410 (5) - new combo.
  2. 00:25:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  3. 00:27:521 (4) - new combo.
  4. 00:28:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  5. 00:30:188 (5) - new combo?
  6. 00:31:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  7. 00:32:410 (5) - new combo.
  8. 00:37:744 (4) - new combo.
  9. 00:38:188 (1) - remove new combo.
  10. 00:40:188 (6) - new combo.
  11. 00:40:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  12. 01:02:855 (5) - new combo.
  13. 01:07:077 (5) - new combo.
  14. 01:08:188 (1) - remove new combo.
  15. 01:10:188 (4) - new combo.
  16. 01:11:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  17. 01:12:855 (5) - new combo.
  18. 01:14:188 (1) - remove new combo.
  19. 01:15:077 (5) - new combo.
  20. 01:16:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  21. 01:18:188 (4) - new combo?
  22. 01:19:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  23. 01:20:410 (4) - new combo.
  24. 01:22:855 (6) - new combo.
  25. 01:23:521 (1) - remove new combo.

comments

still very repetitive, but nice rhythm you have going here. I highly recommend the changes in song setup. Be a little more creative though, it's very linear.


Tenshi's Hard
song setup
  1. fine I think. c:

note arrangement
  1. 00:01:077 (2) - blanket (1) properly?
  2. 00:05:744 (2) - maybe blanket the next note?
  3. 00:10:077 (3,4) - this part gets confusing. add a note at 00:09:966 - to make it flow better and easier to read.
  4. 00:11:299 (2,3) - due to previous triples, consider making these faster repeats using your timing of 1/6 and having a note after, like this:
    SPOILER
  5. 00:14:744 (1) - pull this back a tick, and fix spacing.
  6. 00:16:410 (1,2,3,4) - spacing here is so off. fix this please or try another pattern because it doesn't play well :v
  7. 00:19:966 - add a note here to fix flow issues.
  8. 00:20:077 (4) - shorten this slider. In this combo there are too many different lengths of sliders and they are hard as hell to read.
  9. 00:20:632 - note here too please.
  10. 00:22:188 - note here maybe so it's consistent and flowy D: then fix spacing, you could do something like:
    SPOILER
  11. 00:23:077 (1,2,3) - same suggestion as above.
  12. 00:27:077 (1) - extend a tick?
  13. 00:28:410 (1) - ^
  14. 00:32:632 - note here?
  15. 00:33:966 - same suggestion as above.
  16. 00:48:410 (1) - same suggestion as before.
  17. 00:49:743 (1) - ^
  18. 00:54:188 - a note here, and same pattern suggestion as before.
  19. 00:55:632 (2,3) - ^
  20. 01:09:744 (1) - weee
  21. 01:11:077 (1) - you should get this by now, lol.
  22. 01:19:077 (1,2,3) - this pattern does not work whatsoever. it's spaced bad and it plays bad.
    just a suggestion, but
  23. 01:23:632 (2) - remove this and replace it with a note on 01:23:744 - .

hitsounding
  1. 00:25:077 (4) - whistle at beginning.
  2. 00:26:411 (4) - ^
  3. 00:35:966 (2) - end with a clap instead.
  4. 00:37:299 (5) - whistle nothing clap.
  5. 00:37:855 (1) - finish should be consistent with the other diffs o.o sounds better
  6. 00:54:410 (3) - no whistle on repeat.
  7. 00:55:743 (3) - ^
  8. 01:15:077 (1) - clap on repeat instead?
  9. 01:16:410 (1) - ^ just a suggestion.
  10. 01:19:521 (2) - clap on beginning instead.
  11. 01:23:632 (2) - clap on end instead.
  12. 01:23:966 (3) - whistle on end instead.

volume points
  1. holy so many, this seems fine to me and it didn't bother me during play so o_ob

new combos
  1. 00:10:410 (1) - remove new combo.
  2. 00:13:077 (5) - new combo.
  3. 00:13:744 (1) - remove new combo.
  4. 00:15:632 (4) - new combo.
  5. 00:16:410 (1) - remove new combo.
  6. 00:42:410 (1) - ^

comments

the style of this is definitely good but some spacing issues and rhythm issues ought to be fixed. when they are corrected properly, this will be a pretty solid diff, it's very well structured but definitely needs some cleaning. nice use of repetition, too.


Insan3
song setup
  1. good to me I believe.

note arrangement
  1. 00:00:410 (1) - fix this orz
  2. 00:03:744 (4,5,6) - end the slider two ticks earlier and then add a note in the spot where the slider had previously ended. it flows much better and don't forget to fix spacing.
  3. 00:06:410 (1,2,3,4) - maybe bigger spacing. in comparison to the previous combo, this is just too small to ignore, lol
  4. 00:07:744 (1,2,3,4) - same here D: also fix slider shape?
  5. 00:08:410 (4,5) - extend slider one tick, and move note to 00:09:299 - .
  6. 00:09:521 - add a note here, and fix spacing for this and the previous parts.
  7. 00:11:957 - it's so empty ;w;
  8. 00:14:632 - :c
  9. 00:17:299 - a note here would make this section so much easier to read and play.
  10. 00:19:077 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - can you fix this? this whole pattern is a mess and very hard to sightread x.x here's an example of what you could do:
    SPOILER
  11. 00:21:977 - a note here? x.x
  12. 00:34:744 (7,8) - align these straight? xD
  13. 00:35:966 (3) - this stack is sort of hidden.
  14. 00:40:188 (1,2,3) - too close to the center of the spinner, move it out more.
  15. 00:49:744 (4) - fix slider shape?
  16. 01:00:410 (7) - x.x
  17. 01:01:983 - note here please D:
  18. 01:24:188 (1,2,3) - sort of hard to read, can you rearrange this elsewhere?

hitsounding
  1. 00:00:410 (1) - I don't think this whistle here fits D:
  2. 00:04:410 (6) - clap instead.
  3. whistle instead.
  4. 00:05:744 (4) - clap on beginning instead.
  5. 00:06:410 (1) - clap instead.
  6. 00:06:855 (3) - whistle instead.
  7. 00:07:077 (4) - switch the hitsounds on the ends.
  8. 00:19:077 (1) - remove finish to keep it constant with the rest of the diffs; only used at the parts normal and easy used.
  9. 00:20:410 (8) - ^
  10. 00:29:077 (8) - remove whistle on repeat.
  11. 00:36:410 (5) - remove whistle at beginning and replace with a clap.
  12. 00:37:744 (1) - you can barely hear the hitsound on this, do something about it. either remove it or vamp up the volume.
  13. 00:40:410 (3) - remove whistle.
  14. 00:41:744 (1) - clap on beginning instead.
  15. 00:43:744 (3) - nothing on repeat since the sounds changed.
  16. 00:44:855 (5) - clap on end instead.
  17. 00:45:299 (1,2) - remove hitsounds completely or add claps.
  18. 00:46:410 (7) - remove whistle on beginning.
  19. 00:47:521 (1) - remove whistle on end.
  20. 00:49:077 (1) - remove whistle.
  21. 00:50:410 (6) - ^
  22. 00:51:744 (7) - remove whistle and replace with clap.
  23. 00:54:410 (4) - clap instead.
  24. 00:51:966 (8) - whistle only, remove clap.
  25. 00:52:188 (9) - ^
  26. 00:54:188 (3) - no hitsound or whistle.
  27. 00:54:632 (5) - whistle instead.
  28. 00:55:744 (1) - remove whistle at beginning and replace with clap.
  29. 00:56:855 (2) - whistle instead.
  30. 00:57:077 (3) - clap instead.
  31. 00:57:521 (5) - whistle only.
  32. 00:57:744 (6) - whistle on end.
  33. 00:58:410 (7) - beginning = whistle + clap ; repeat = clap ; end = whistle.
  34. 00:59:744 (3) - clap instead.
  35. 00:59:966 (4) - whistle instead.
  36. 01:01:077 (9) - beginning = clap ; repeat = whistle + clap ; end = whistle.
  37. 01:03:744 (1) - remove whistle.
  38. 01:05:077 (4) - clap instead.
  39. 01:05:521 (6,7) - claps instead.
  40. 01:06:410 (3) - clap on beginning.
  41. 01:06:855 (5,6) - claps instead.

volume points
  1. perfectly fine with me, it's the same as Tenshi's. but to all diffs, a nice volume increase in kiai would fit well, and a volume decrease during non-kiai segments.

new combos
  1. 00:06:410 (1) - remove new combo.
  2. 00:07:744 (1) - remove new combo.
  3. 00:07:966 (2) - new combo.
  4. 00:21:077 (1) - remove new combo.
  5. 00:25:966 (1) - ^
  6. 00:31:077 (8) - new combo.
  7. 00:31:744 (1) - remove new combo.
  8. 00:32:410 (8) - new combo.
  9. 00:33:077 (1) - remove new combo.
  10. 00:44:410 (4) - new combo.
  11. 00:45:299 (1) - remove new combo.
  12. 00:45:744 (7) - new combo.
  13. 00:47:077 (5) - ^
  14. 00:47:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  15. 00:47:966 (1) - ^
  16. 00:48:410 (7) - new combo.
  17. 00:49:077 (1) - remove new combo.
  18. 00:49:744 (6) - new combo.
  19. 00:50:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  20. 00:51:077 (7) - new combo.
  21. 00:55:077 (8) - new combo.
  22. 00:55:744 (1) - remove new combo.
  23. 00:57:744 (6) - new combo.
  24. 01:00:410 (7) - new combo.
  25. 01:03:077 (6) - new combo.
  26. 01:03:744 (1) - remove new combo.
  27. 01:05:744 (8) - new combo.
  28. 01:06:077 (1) - remove new combo.
  29. 01:08:188 (1) - remove new combo.
  30. 01:08:410 (7) - new combo.
  31. 01:09:299 (1) - remove new combo.
  32. 01:09:744 (10) - new combo.
  33. 01:13:744 (8) - new combo.
  34. 01:14:410 (1) - remove new combo.
  35. 01:15:077 (8) - new combo.
  36. 01:15:744 (1) - remove new combo.
  37. 01:16:410 (6) - new combo.
  38. 01:21:744 (4) - new combo.
  39. 01:22:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  40. 01:23:077 (8) - new combo.

comments

quite creative, though it's still a little confusing in some aspects. sliders could use some fixing and some different spacing for sure. otherwise, it's getting better :3


Taiko Oni

comments

I think it would be COMPLETELY OFFENSIVE IF I MODDED THIS SO I'M JUST GONNA NOT MOD IT.

>w<

good luck to you guys! ^~^
DarkDunskin
1,876 posts
Joined April 2009
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Hi Cherry~

Mod

xcherry wrote:

okay it's been so long since I modded ;w; and since I'm going to be involved in a queue now, I need to clear this as soon as possible, so what better time than now =q= again, sorry for such the long wait, I'll make sure it's extra helpful. :v

General
  1. Kiai times are missing in the following diffs:
    1. Tenshi's Hard
    2. Insan3
  2. Maybe try to give them some kiai time? While you're at it, make sure all kiai times are consistent. As you know, taiko is an execption.
  3. There are breaks in the following diffs:
    1. Easy
    2. Normal
  4. Consider possibly making the breaks consistent in all diffs or just simply mapping in these parts. Of course, this is only a suggestion.
  5. Maybe add a slightly toned white to combo colours? Okami is white :3 Also, some of the colours look almost the same, consider making them a little more distinct. xD
  6. The combo colours as a set differ in the following diffs:
    1. Insan3
  7. consider getting that fixed too! ^^


Easy
song setup
  1. AR +1 (to 4)? - okay

note arrangement
  1. 00:21:744 (1) - this is sort of overlapped, maybe we can clean it up D: ?
    basically, the (1) is moved over more, and (3) is stacked on the previous slider. this is much more clean and everything is distance snapped. :3 - used your codes thx
    480,184,21744,6,0,B|484:256|420:296,1,120,4|0
    352,304,22855,1,8
    316,288,23077,2,8,B|192:288,1,120,4|8
  2. 00:28:410 (3) - blanket the (1) more? - okay
  3. 00:31:077 (3) - ^ - okay
  4. 01:05:521 (2) - from this point on, if you could, try avoiding so many stacks. It might be quite confusing to new players to read the approach circle and not knowing where to read it from because the circle and slider combination might be too much. - removed few

hitsounding
  1. 00:00:410 (1) - clap at beginning to match other slider? o.o
  2. 00:18:410 (3) - remove clap?
  3. for the following, you can carry out either lists in order to create consistency:
  4. a:
    1. 00:27:077 (1) - remove clap on end?
    2. 00:29:744 (1) - ^
    3. 00:32:410 (1) - ^
    4. 00:35:077 (1) - ^
    5. 00:37:744 (1) - ^
    6. 01:04:410 (1) - ^
    7. 01:07:077 (1) - ^
    8. 01:09:744 (1) - ^
    9. 01:12:410 (1) - ^
    10. 01:15:077 (1) - ^
    11. 01:17:744 (1) - ^
    12. 01:20:410 (1) - remove clap at beginning and clap at end?
  5. b:
    1. 00:21:744 (1) - add clap on end.
    2. 00:24:410 (1) - ^
- changed everything, choose suggestion b
volume points
  1. only thing I can suggest is make sure at kiai times, the volume is louder than the other sections. whether you choose to lower the original volume and keep the original volume for the kiai or keep the original volume and increase it for kiai is up to you.

- lowered other sections vol to 40 as in guest diffs
new combos
  1. no problem here actually o.o

comments

very repetitive, try making it a little more creative besides using the same curved and straight sliders. besides the creativity level being low and pointed out things, everything seems to be in order.

Normal
song setup
  1. HP Drain Rate +1 at least x.x - okay
  2. Circle Size -1 to the biggest size available. - okay
  3. AR +1?
- okay
note arrangement
  1. 00:16:855 (1,2) - stack on previous notes located here?
  2. 00:23:966 (4) - remove? - okay
  3. 00:29:078 (2) - ^ - nope, I like it more my way
  4. 01:06:632 (4) - delete?
- okay
hitsounding
  1. 00:00:410 (1) - clap at beginning? - okay
  2. 00:12:188 (3) - whistle instead.
  3. 00:12:410 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  4. 00:14:855 (3) - whistle instead.
  5. 00:15:077 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  6. 00:15:744 (5) - finish at end.
  7. 00:17:521 (3) - whistle instead.
  8. 00:17:744 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  9. 00:20:188 (3) - whistle instead.
  10. 00:20:410 (4) - finish at beginning instead.
  11. 00:21:077 (5) - should be whistle whistle clap <--- do this for all of these kinds of repeats in this diff!
  12. 00:21:744 (1) - whistle on end instead. - I understand what you're up to, but I used this pattern intetionally o.o
  13. I think you can see the pattern by now. This is the kind of hitsound pattern that you were probably looking for, it got a little muddled though, lol. =3= If you need help adjusting these, pm me and I'll go over it with you.

volume points
  1. this seems okay too.
- chaged it like I did in easy
new combos
  1. 00:24:410 (5) - new combo.
  2. 00:25:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  3. 00:27:521 (4) - new combo.
  4. 00:28:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  5. 00:30:188 (5) - new combo?
  6. 00:31:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  7. 00:32:410 (5) - new combo.
  8. 00:37:744 (4) - new combo.
  9. 00:38:188 (1) - remove new combo.
  10. 00:40:188 (6) - new combo.
  11. 00:40:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  12. 01:02:855 (5) - new combo.
  13. 01:07:077 (5) - new combo.
  14. 01:08:188 (1) - remove new combo.
  15. 01:10:188 (4) - new combo.
  16. 01:11:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  17. 01:12:855 (5) - new combo.
  18. 01:14:188 (1) - remove new combo.
  19. 01:15:077 (5) - new combo.
  20. 01:16:855 (1) - remove new combo.
  21. 01:18:188 (4) - new combo?
  22. 01:19:521 (1) - remove new combo.
  23. 01:20:410 (4) - new combo.
  24. 01:22:855 (6) - new combo.
  25. 01:23:521 (1) - remove new combo.

- accepted all Combo suggestion thx~
comments

still very repetitive, but nice rhythm you have going here. I highly recommend the changes in song setup. Be a little more creative though, it's very linear.

It's quite hard for me to make non repetitive Easy Difficultys for a quite repetitive song sorry for that.
But I intended to map them as good as possible, so that nobody notices ^^
Taiko's perfectly well, good thing you didn't get offensive on that one~
Thank you very much for your detailed mod.
Last edited by DarkDunskin , edited 1 time in total.
Tenshi-nyan
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Tenshi-nyan
fixed some stuff. nothing big, really.

http://puu.sh/oHu6
p3n
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Joined June 2009
p3n
another huuuuuge xcherry mod :D

fixed: KIAI, misplaced hitsounds (finishes), some inconsistent combos, the hard to read follow pattern, the few inconsistent stream spacings that where still on 0,7x instead of 0,8x

Didn't fix:
01:00:410 (7) - perfectly fine and not that hard to read
different combo colours - there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with having different CCs for different difficulties. I chose to change them for my diff because the original CCs by Dunskin were almost impossible to see against the SB/BG in some parts (but only in my diff as it is fully mapped without breaks)

I didn't use all of your suggestions and I'm sorry for not quoting and telling you what exactly. I am way too tired today to write it all :o

Anyway thanks for your great mod ♥

Download: Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero (DarkDunskin) [Insan3].osu
kanpakyin
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kanpakyin
Sorry for huge delay due to my school works.

[General]
  1. You didn't set a combo colour in 'Taiko diff'.
  2. No kiai time in Tenshi's diff?
  3. Other stuffs look fine.
[Easy]
  1. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:23:077 (3) - Probably stack this to (2)- because I see you stack the 1/3 after this pattern so just stack it for consistency but you need to adjust the spacing after fix.
    2. 00:34:632 (x) - How about add a note here?I think it is really suitable and fits the music but just leave this to you.
  2. Hitsound
    (These are totally my thought only,it base on my taste,feel free to ignore them)
    1. 00:02:410 (2) - I found that a whistle here looked cool.Probably try that?
    2. 00:05:077 (4) - ^Same
    3. 00:07:744 (2) - Same [not list these out anymore orz..]
[Normal]
  1. Difficulty setting
    (I suggest the difficulty setting for better gameplay.)
    1. Rise hp by 1~2 tick.
  2. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:36:855 (3,1) - I think some newbie can't follow the rhythm here because it is on the purple tick.It would be much better if you can move this to 00:37:077 - .Please adjust the spacing after fix.
  3. Hitsound
    (These are totally my thought only,it base on my taste,feel free to ignore them)
    1. 00:31:744 (4) - The whistle on this slider didn't fit the music.I would remove the whistle sound at the reverse and the end of the slider if I were you.
    2. 00:41:077 (3) - Add a whistle here and remove other whistle on this slider.
[Tenshi's Hard]
  1. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:14:744 (5,6,7,8) - The rhythm here sounds extremely weird.They off the music.In case I don't know what does these note follow?
    2. 00:35:077 (1) - In my opinion, this jump is too big to compare with the whole difficulty.I highly suggest reducing the spacing.
    3. 01:01:077 (3,4,5) - A little suggestion here:Would you align these notes to consistent with 00:59:744 (3,4,5) - .
    4. 01:05:077 (2,1) - Same as 00:35:077-
    5. 01:19:966 (3) - The 1/6 jump here is really meaningless.Nothing support to be a jump, player is quite easy to miss this slider during their first play.
[Insan3]
  1. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:03:077 (3) - I think you can make this slider more smooth, here is a example, take a look on it?Sure you need to check the spacing after fix.
      Recommendation
    2. 01:00:410 (7) - I feel some risk of this slider.I cannot say that is unrankable, but it is risky.I suggest changing this to another shape but it's up to you.
    3. 01:19:077 (1,2,3,1,2) - I have seen this pattern before,so I would suggest to make a new pattern instead of this.It can make so new feeling to the player.
  2. Hitsound
    (These are totally my thought only,it base on my taste,feel free to ignore them)
    1. 01:05:299 (5) - A whistle here?
    2. 01:14:855 (3) - ^Same.
[Taiko Oni]
  1. 00:23:744 (12) - Add a kat here.
  2. 00:26:410 (26) - ^Same.
  3. 00:27:077 (1,2,3,4,5) - Either remove this stream and then change to 1/2 or change its pattern to ddkkd is okay.
  4. 00:47:744 (27,28,29,30,31) - kkddk sounds much better.
  5. 00:52:410 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66) - This stream is much harder than the overall difficulty, it is a bad thing to a difficuly.I highly suggest to siimplify the stream pattern.
DarkDunskin
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Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
kanpakyin's Mod

kanpakyin wrote:

Sorry for huge delay due to my school works.

[General]
  1. You didn't set a combo colour in 'Taiko diff'.
  2. No kiai time in Tenshi's diff?
  3. Other stuffs look fine.
[Easy]
  1. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:23:077 (3) - Probably stack this to (2)- because I see you stack the 1/3 after this pattern so just stack it for consistency but you need to adjust the spacing after fix. stacked and fixed
    2. 00:34:632 (x) - How about add a note here?I think it is really suitable and fits the music but just leave this to you.
  2. Hitsound not going to change sry
    (These are totally my thought only,it base on my taste,feel free to ignore them)
    1. 00:02:410 (2) - I found that a whistle here looked cool.Probably try that?
    2. 00:05:077 (4) - ^Same
    3. 00:07:744 (2) - Same [not list these out anymore orz..]
fixed every hitsound


[Normal]
  1. Difficulty setting
    (I suggest the difficulty setting for better gameplay.)
    1. Rise hp by 1~2 tick.
    risen hp by 1
  2. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:36:855 (3,1) - I think some newbie can't follow the rhythm here because it is on the purple tick.It would be much better if you can move this to 00:37:077 - .Please adjust the spacing after fix.
    not changing, 1/3 should be easy enough on normal
  3. Hitsound
    (These are totally my thought only,it base on my taste,feel free to ignore them)
    1. 00:31:744 (4) - The whistle on this slider didn't fit the music.I would remove the whistle sound at the reverse and the end of the slider if I were you.
    2. 00:41:077 (3) - Add a whistle here and remove other whistle on this slider.
fixed with your suggestions, added claps on the other whistles instead.

[Taiko Oni]
  1. 00:23:744 (12) - Add a kat here. won't change
  2. 00:26:410 (26) - ^Same. won't change
  3. 00:27:077 (1,2,3,4,5) - Either remove this stream and then change to 1/2 or change its pattern to ddkkd is okay. turned to ddkkd
  4. 00:47:744 (27,28,29,30,31) - kkddk sounds much better. not fixed because kkdkk fits better to the song if yopu listen closely
  5. 00:52:410 (56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66) - This stream is much harder than the overall difficulty, it is a bad thing to a difficuly.I highly suggest to siimplify the stream pattern.
    I like this pattern too much so I cut the stream instead.

I'm a bit stubborn when it comes to my Taiko diffs sry ^^"
The rest are good suggestions, thx for your mod.
Contacting Tenshi and p3n.
Tenshi-nyan
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Joined September 2010
Tenshi-nyan

kanpakyin wrote:

[Tenshi's Hard]
  1. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:14:744 (5,6,7,8) - The rhythm here sounds extremely weird.They off the music.In case I don't know what does these note follow?
    2. 00:35:077 (1) - In my opinion, this jump is too big to compare with the whole difficulty.I highly suggest reducing the spacing.
    3. 01:01:077 (3,4,5) - A little suggestion here:Would you align these notes to consistent with 00:59:744 (3,4,5) - .
    4. 01:05:077 (2,1) - Same as 00:35:077-
    5. 01:19:966 (3) - The 1/6 jump here is really meaningless.Nothing support to be a jump, player is quite easy to miss this slider during their first play.
Fixed some stuff. Didnt touch the jumps and that 1/6 jump.


http://puu.sh/sicu
p3n
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p3n

kanpakyin wrote:

[Insan3]
  1. Beatmap design/suggestion
    (These are totally suggestion only,you can ignore them if you disagree.)
    1. 00:03:077 (3) - I think you can make this slider more smooth, here is a example, take a look on it?Sure you need to check the spacing after fix. done
      Recommendation
    2. 01:00:410 (7) - I feel some risk of this slider.I cannot say that is unrankable, but it is risky.I suggest changing this to another shape but it's up to you. I think I will take that risk. It sure is unique but shouldn't be unrankable.
    3. 01:19:077 (1,2,3,1,2) - I have seen this pattern before,so I would suggest to make a new pattern instead of this.It can make so new feeling to the player.I agree with you here that it would be good to add playstyle variation but in this case I will keep it as is: the 1/6 connected sliders are the only parts where I follow the melody instead of the rhythm - I want the player to feel that and make it more "expectable" by just reading the same pattern again here.
  2. Hitsound
    (These are totally my thought only,it base on my taste,feel free to ignore them)
    1. 01:05:299 (5) - A whistle here? sounds good
    2. 01:14:855 (3) - ^Same.^
Thanks for your time and mod kpn o/

Download: Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero (DarkDunskin) [Insan3].osu
meiikyuu
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meiikyuu
nice song :)
wmfchris
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wmfchris
[General]
- I don't see where S:C2 is used but a related .wav is in the song file. (or I just failed to catch the timeline you used?)
- Combo colour 2 and 3 are quite similar so it's suggested to interchange combo colour 3 and 4.

[Insan3]
HP6 will be too low for insane. Try 7.
00:11:077 (1) - imo this is a bit too loud as it isn't really an accent. Maybe reduce it by 10% would work.
01:09:744 - considering the drum hitsound sounds quite sharp imo it doesn't really fit with a long flute note in the music and the 1 beat break. Reducing the hitsound volume is a possible choice (-10%).

[Hard]
00:26:078 (2) - unsnapped
00:34:078 (2) - unsnapped
00:58:189 (2) - unsnapped
01:19:077 (1,2,3) - Firstly (1,2) can be tweeked so that they are symmetrical. Secondly it's very misleading that (1,2) and (2,3) have the same time interval. This is not common in insane and this is just a hard.

[Normal]
00:29:078 (4) - unsnapped
fine. I still think that the kat-like hitsound is a bit too sharp and a more general approach - soften the wav would be nice.

[Easy]
00:18:410 (3) - don't really feel like an accent so better remove the clap
00:19:745 (2) - unsnapped
01:04:410 - just a litte thought here: the soft whistle shows the transition of sections, but the normal finish can still work well here. hmmm...

In overall quite fine, impressive SB and hitsound combination, though the oddity of the normal kat sound may need some refinement.
DarkDunskin
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Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
- Fixed unsnapped Notes on each difficulty.

Mod

wmfchris wrote:

[General]
- I don't see where S:C2 is used but a related .wav is in the song file. (or I just failed to catch the timeline you used?)
-You're right, no one seems to use it so I'll just slightly delete the .wav

[Insan3]
HP6 will be too low for insane. Try 7. -Fixed for p3n
00:11:077 (1) - imo this is a bit too loud as it isn't really an accent. Maybe reduce it by 10% would work.
-removing kat hitsound in general, so this should be no problem anymore.

01:09:744 - considering the drum hitsound sounds quite sharp imo it doesn't really fit with a long flute note in the music and the 1 beat break. Reducing the hitsound volume is a possible choice (-10%).
Personally I like this arrangement, cause its setting some dynamic accents in the song. I will inform p3n though as soon he is online again.

[Hard]
01:19:077 (1,2,3) - Firstly (1,2) can be tweeked so that they are symmetrical. Secondly it's very misleading that (1,2) and (2,3) have the same time interval. This is not common in insane and this is just a hard.
- made it symmetrical, contacting Tenshi~

[Normal]
fine. I still think that the kat-like hitsound is a bit too sharp and a more general approach - soften the wav would be nice.
-removed and deleted the kat sound and added soft whistles instead

[Easy]
00:18:410 (3) - don't really feel like an accent so better remove the clap -removed
01:04:410 - just a litte thought here: the soft whistle shows the transition of sections, but the normal finish can still work well here. hmmm...
- added clap here and at the other similar position.

In overall quite fine, impressive SB and hitsound combination, though the oddity of the normal kat sound may need some refinement.

Not sure what you mean with the Combo Colors. I think they're fine and don't look too similar o.o
Thx again~
Tenshi-nyan
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Joined September 2010
Tenshi-nyan
I kind of liked the way I did that combo... but whatever.

http://puu.sh/wcI7 Update
DarkDunskin
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Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Updated Tenshi's Hard - P3n won't change anything else~
Sync
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Sync
Thought I should point out that the storyboard is VERY well done and you should be proud

[General]
-- The combo colors are inconsistent on the standard difficulties. Make them all the same.
-- Why doesn't Tenshi's Hard have a kiai-time?

[Insan3]
-- OD6 is too low considering the actual difficulty of this map. Raise it to 7.

00:08:410 (1) - The slider would fit the music better if you shortened it by two ticks and added a hit circle at 00:08:855 (2) like you did at 00:09:744 (6).
00:09:077 (2) - Why did you leave a gap here? Keep to the beat by adding notes at 00:09:299 (3) and 00:09:521 (4).
00:25:966 (1) - To be consistent with your combo patterns, remove this combo so that the same combo lasts a whole stanza like before. Alternatively, you may keep this combo and add one at 00:23:077 (7). It'd be easier to just remove it.
00:33:744 (6,1) - Switch these combos around; the combo should start on 6 because of consistency and it makes more sense to start it on the heavier beat.
00:45:744 (5) - Add a finish here to stress that downbeat.
01:00:410 (7) - This slider is very scrunched up and is more of a "click and hold your mouse here" kind of a slider instead of a "click and slide" kind of slider. Make it less bunched up.
01:16:410 (4,5) - Make these two notes a slider like you did with 01:15:077 (4); it'd play a lot smoother.

[Tenshi's Hard]
-- Like Insa3, raise the OD a tick. 5 is way too low considering the difficulty.

00:10:077 (3,4) - Take this as a light suggestion, but I hit this double pretty early. You might want to consider spacing it a bit further away despite following distance snap.
00:14:744 (5) - This is incredibly awkward to play, even during the second time around. Anyways, I it'd follow the music better if you added a hit circle at 00:14:632 (5), 00:14:855 (6), and made a half-beat slider starting at 00:15:077 and ending at 00:15:410.
00:16:632 (2,3) - Again, I'm just not getting a good feel for the music here. Shorten both of the sliders by one tick each and it'd represent what is going on in the music way better. Also, add a hit circle at 00:17:521 (4).
00:20:077 (5) - This slider starts one tick too early. I'm not one to suggest ending sliders on heavier beats than they start off on originally, so I'd replace it with a hit circle and a slider on it's downbeat. See this timeline reference. So yeah, that was basically the end of the iffy beat placement in this map.
00:42:744 (2) - Do you really want to transition your way into a new stanza/section in the music by a repeat-slider? I sure as hell wouldn't. It doesn't stress the beat enough. I suggest getting rid of one of those repeats and adding a 3 tick-long slider at 00:43:077 (3) just like you do in the patterns to come. It plays a lot better.
01:04:410 (5,1) - Switch these combos around. The new combo should start on the downbeat.

[Normal]
00:15:744 (5) - Add a finish on the slider's end-point like you've done previously.

[Easy]
00:00:410 (1) - Add a clap at the beginning of this slider
00:21:744 (1) - Add a clap at the end of this slider like you've been doing all along. Not sure why you suddenly quit here, lol
00:24:410 (1) - ^
Tenshi-nyan
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Tenshi-nyan

Sync wrote:

[Tenshi's Hard]
-- Like Insa3, raise the OD a tick. 5 is way too low considering the difficulty. It doesn't give you more points and I don't want to raise it just for the sake of difficulty.

00:10:077 (3,4) - Take this as a light suggestion, but I hit this double pretty early. You might want to consider spacing it a bit further away despite following distance snap. but just a bit.
00:14:744 (5) - This is incredibly awkward to play, even during the second time around. Anyways, I it'd follow the music better if you added a hit circle at 00:14:632 (5), 00:14:855 (6), and made a half-beat slider starting at 00:15:077 and ending at 00:15:410. replaced with 2 short double sliders.
00:16:632 (2,3) - Again, I'm just not getting a good feel for the music here. Shorten both of the sliders by one tick each and it'd represent what is going on in the music way better. Also, add a hit circle at 00:17:521 (4). hmm, no.
00:20:077 (5) - This slider starts one tick too early. I'm not one to suggest ending sliders on heavier beats than they start off on originally, so I'd replace it with a hit circle and a slider on it's downbeat. See this timeline reference. So yeah, that was basically the end of the iffy beat placement in this map. the way it is now sounds OK to me, so no.
00:42:744 (2) - Do you really want to transition your way into a new stanza/section in the music by a repeat-slider? I sure as hell wouldn't. It doesn't stress the beat enough. I suggest getting rid of one of those repeats and adding a 3 tick-long slider at 00:43:077 (3) just like you do in the patterns to come. It plays a lot better. well, I want to.
01:04:410 (5,1) - Switch these combos around. The new combo should start on the downbeat. hmm. OK.
No KIAI because I think it doesn't fit the song.

http://puu.sh/wPq6
p3n
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p3n

Sync wrote:

[Insan3]
-- OD6 is too low considering the actual difficulty of this map. Raise it to 7. OD was low since this song is mapped in 1/3 and most players tend to have problems with that in the first few plays - so to make it less harsh I decided to have a low OD. Raised it to 7 now.

00:08:410 (1) - The slider would fit the music better if you shortened it by two ticks and added a hit circle at 00:08:855 (2) like you did at 00:09:744 (6). there are no three drum beats here, thats why there is only a double before the small break. Tbh the drum "pattern" in this song is somewhat random at times but overall this variety is what I really liked when mapping this.
00:09:077 (2) - Why did you leave a gap here? Keep to the beat by adding notes at 00:09:299 (3) and 00:09:521 (4). no drums here so why should I add notes? I don't want to switch to following the guitar suddenly in one combo and I definetely WONT EVER just add notes for the sake of pointless 1/2 spam or 1/3 spam respectively. No change here.
00:25:966 (1) - To be consistent with your combo patterns, remove this combo so that the same combo lasts a whole stanza like before. Alternatively, you may keep this combo and add one at 00:23:077 (7). It'd be easier to just remove it. this is not a matter of consistent patterns here imho. This NC specifically increases readability as the jump pattern ends with the note before the triplet. Yes this can be read in only one colour as well, but personally I think it is a much better design to actually indicate said change with combo colours. Since I can't see a NC "spam" here or just nonsense NCs I will keep it as is. (And I don't think this NC will affect the rankability of this map)
00:33:744 (6,1) - Switch these combos around; the combo should start on 6 because of consistency and it makes more sense to start it on the heavier beat. again this NC is used to increase readability. Should play a lot better with the combos as they are now as it makes the "gap" of 3/6 between 00:33:744 (6,1) less annoying (having said gap in one combo is what I wanted to avoid for the sake of first-time-playability)
00:45:744 (5) - Add a finish here to stress that downbeat. thanks - must have missed that or removed it by accident
01:00:410 (7) - This slider is very scrunched up and is more of a "click and hold your mouse here" kind of a slider instead of a "click and slide" kind of slider. Make it less bunched up. I'd consider changing this slider if you told me it was "unrankable" (which it is not). Unless this slider gets a special treatment I really want to keep it. It is kind of the signature in this map - call it unique or special - and it doesn't even look "bad". I don't know about tablet players, but as mouse only I don't just "hold" this slider but do a small curve which feels "just right" as it seems to follow the melody/flute without missing the drum beats.
01:16:410 (4,5) - Make these two notes a slider like you did with 01:15:077 (4); it'd play a lot smoother. great idea! The flow is more in line with the rest of ths surrounding patterns now.

Thanks for the mod Sync! (Can Dunskin haz bubble nao? :P )

Download: Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero (DarkDunskin) [Insan3].osu
DarkDunskin
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Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
My body, my body, my body is ready~

Changed Hitsounds as Sync suggested.
Updated p3n's and Tenshi's diffs.
Gloria Guard
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Joined May 2011
Gloria Guard
Hi DarkDunSkin~

Hard00:02:855 (1,2,3) - Why don't you try make to like this is beat?

http://puu.sh/xfVV



Good map :D
bossandy
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bossandy
Hi hi~
　
  1. Red : I think you must to fix.
  2. Blue : Need to discuss.
  3. Black : Just suggest or nazi.
　
[ General]
　
  1. Maybe add Lech , Nech , Shiranui , Soundtrack to tags?
  2. I think you must Reset Combo Color , The colors is too similar >_< Especially Combo 2 and 3
  3. Different Combo color in Taiko diff and Insan3 , Maybe make them the same?
  4. Add this code to Insan3 , like other diff 
    SkinPreference:okami
  5. Add Skin's download link to creater's word? , I think anybody don't know where to download the skin "okami"
  6. scroll_flip.wav 's volume is a bit loud , change the volume down?
　
[ Easy]
　
  1. 00:21:744 (1) - Mute hitsounds is UNRANKBLE! You should add clap or finish end
  2. 00:24:410 (1) - Same as above
  3. 00:36:188 (2) - Delete this circle , I think it is excess , If you delete this note , It will be more good for me and others I think
  4. 01:19:077 (2) - ^
  5. Nothing more to say , this diff is awesome xDD
　
[ Normal]
　
  1. 00:52:244 - Make sure the break start is snapped
  2. 00:21:299 - Change whistle to clap? I think it is better way to change it , hmm... It's up to you xDD
  3. 01:21:077 (3) - change clap to finish end , like other part
  4. 01:23:910 - Hmm... Move this Green Timing Section to 01:23:744, I think Soft-Hitwhistle is on white tick , not red tick. oh! also move 01:24:077 to 01:23:910
　
[ Tenshi's Hard]
　
  1. 00:14:632 (5) - Forward 1 tick to 00:14:744 , to follow the drum ( Don't forget to fix the spacing after you move )
  2. 00:15:521 (8) - Add a note to follow the drum
  3. 00:16:410 (1,2) - These sounds is fitting the music for me... Maybe you can change them to a slider , start 00:16:410 and end 00:16:966
  4. 01:04:299 (4) - delete this note sounds better to me
  5. No kiai time on this difficult??? Why???
　
[ Insan3]
　
  1. You NC which you put on this diff is very Confusion , Big suggetion to put NC on LONG WHITE TICK , Like 00:53:744 (1) - , 00:59:077 (1) - , I think you know what I mean
　
　　--------------------------------------------------------
Okay , That's all~ I like this song ^_^
Sorry for my poor mod ~
Good Luck DD :3
DarkDunskin
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Joined April 2009
Topic Starter
DarkDunskin
Boss's Mod

bossandy wrote:

Hi hi~
　
　
[ General]
　
  1. Maybe add Lech , Nech , Shiranui , Soundtrack to tags? Added~
  2. Add this code to Insan3 , like other diff 
    SkinPreference:okami
    Added prefered skin to Insan3 diff.
  3. Add Skin's download link to creater's word? , I think anybody don't know where to download the skin "okami"
    Added Skins source~
  4. scroll_flip.wav 's volume is a bit loud , change the volume down?
This is okay in my ears.
　
[ Easy]
　
  1. 00:21:744 (1) - Mute hitsounds is UNRANKBLE! You should add clap or finish end done
  2. 00:24:410 (1) - Same as above done
  3. 00:36:188 (2) - Delete this circle , I think it is excess , If you delete this note , It will be more good for me and others I think done
  4. 01:19:077 (2) - ^ done
    　
    [ Normal]
    　
    1. 00:52:244 - Make sure the break start is snapped Didnt understand to be honest.
    2. 00:21:299 - Change whistle to clap? I think it is better way to change it , hmm... It's up to you xDD done
    3. 01:21:077 (3) - change clap to finish end , like other part done
    4. 01:23:910 - Hmm... Move this Green Timing Section to 01:23:744, I think Soft-Hitwhistle is on white tick , not red tick. oh! also move 01:24:077 to 01:23:910
done

Okay still on my to-do-list:
- Changing Combo Colors.

Usefull mod with a good structure, 40/50 points worth at least~
Thx.
Tenshi-nyan
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Tenshi-nyan
No changes for my diff, ok.
popner
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popner
Hi ~ Mod request from My Queue.

Just suggestions:

[General]
  1. Use consistent combo colours in all diffs?
  2. Open letterbox in Taiko Oni to make consistent?
  3. Add Kiai in Tenshi's Hard like other diffs?
[SB]
01:05:521 - put these sakura under black bars? (Also, I think you should add some rotation so it will looks better)

[Easy]
Fine~

[Normal]
01:07:077 (1,3) - nazi - not so symmetric

[Tenshi's Hard]
01:19:077 (1,2,3) - this pattern is more difficult than Insane, so decrease the space between them?

[Insan3]
00:03:632 (4) - the music is not so strong at the beginning, so i suggest delete this
00:04:299 (6,7) - put them like this? http://puu.sh/yf17
00:04:855 - add note? feel empty
00:09:521 - ^
00:16:855 (2,3) - the space between them is similar to 00:17:077 (3,4), so it will mislead player.
00:21:744 (1,2) - ^ so add a note at 00:21:855? (stack with (1)). also add note here 00:23:188
00:27:188 - 00:28:521 - ^
00:33:855 - ^

That's all I can find. GL~
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin
Combo Colors in Easy, Normal, Hard and even in Taiko are similar now.
p3n doesn't want to change Combo Colors, Tenshi doesn't want kiai times in his diff.
This is nothing unrankable at all, I could use different Combo Colors and BG's in every diff If I wanted to, so please:

- stop naziing my Combo Colors -

So there were three Modders now who didn't had anything else to say than Change Colors, Kiai Time and minor nazi stuff.
I believe this Map is ready.
p3n
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p3n
lol combocolours lol

btw...where is the upload button? what the hell is happening here...

http://puu.sh/z0j9 <--- update
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin
Updated.
Combo Colors are all equal now~
Leorda
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Leorda
Oh! Long time no see!


[Easy]
01:18:855 - Add note here? Like 01:16:188 (2)?


[Normal]
00:36:855 (3) - Move to 00:37:077 and add note at 00:36:855 for following rhythm. Just like 00:34:188 (2,3)


[Tenshi's Hard]
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle at sliderbody, it's annoying
00:17:966 - Add note here or add slider and end at 00:18:188?
00:18:188 - ^
00:35:966 (2) - Add clap at end slider?


[Taiko Oni]
* This Taiko Oni doesn't need a storyboard sound...

00:09:744 (13) - Don?
00:32:855 (4) - Kat?
00:34:188 (13) - ^
00:35:521 (22) - ^
00:37:299 (30) - Big Kat?
00:37:744 (31) - Big Don?


[Insan3]
00:45:521 (3,4) - Remove whistle and add clap?


That's all I got orz

EDIT : this song is reminds me of Heartfelt Fancy and Septette of Dead Princess.....
Last edited by Leorda , edited 1 time in total.
p3n
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Leorda wrote:

[Insan3]
00:45:521 (3,4) - Remove whistle and add clap? I like to have it similar to the part at 00:56:188 (3,4) so while it doesn't sound bad it would be inconsistent. I'll keep it as is ;)
Can Dunskin haz bubble now (or after he replies)? :(
DarkDunskin
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Leo's Mod

Leorda wrote:

Oh! Long time no see! o/


[Easy]
01:18:855 - Add note here? Like 01:16:188 (2)? No sry, removed it because of bossandys mod ^^


[Normal]
00:36:855 (3) - Move to 00:37:077 and add note at 00:36:855 for following rhythm. Just like 00:34:188 (2,3)
Hm? I believe this 1/3 Slider fits good to the flute :/

[Tenshi's Hard]
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle at sliderbody, it's annoying Fixed for Tenshi
00:35:966 (2) - Add clap at end slider? Fixed for Tenshi


[Taiko Oni]
* This Taiko Oni doesn't need a storyboard sound...
Like I said in the description, theres a bug in the Editor which doesn't let me do that. Whenever I try to put the custom Soundevents into the .osu-file instead in the .osb, it results in getting a horrible loud Sound. This is because the .osb is recreating itself everytime I update and is not fixable so far :/ I remember Lybydose having the same Problem in one of his Maps lol.

00:09:744 (13) - Don? Nope
00:32:855 (4) - Kat? okay
00:34:188 (13) - ^ okay
00:35:521 (22) - ^ okay
00:37:299 (30) - Big Kat? okay, did it for the second kiai too
00:37:744 (31) - Big Don? okay, did it for the second kiai too


That's all I got orz

EDIT : this song is reminds me of Heartfelt Fancy and Septette of Dead Princess.....
Yeah it's quite dramatic lol. Which reminds me I should map more ZUN songs again ^^

Okay took over Taiko Suggestions and Hitsounds for Tenshi~
Updated.
Shulin
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Shulin
So you shouldn't play this Map if you:
- did'nt play the Game (Shame on you! Get out and buy it - seriously)
Okay I'll just leave... oh wait! I came to mod, I have some suggestions for you ~

[General]

  1. I suggest removing kiai from all diffs (except Tenshi's which doesn't have it). I don't think it's necessary, you have a lovely SB and some strobes already; what's the point of adding more flashing?
  2. Dark blue combo colour blends in too well with black parts of the SB like 00:00:410 - maybe increase the lum to about 85-100 or choose a lighter colour you like.
  3. Not a big issue but the BG has awful black borders at the top and bottom, it'd be great if you could find a BG without this because the current one doesn't look great.
  4. Add black fade out to the end of the SB, it's odd having to see the BG right at the end of the map.
[Easy]

  1. Why 80% volume at the start and at 00:53:744 you should keep this consistent with Normal and change it to 40% (and 60% if you follow my suggestion) in these places.
00:28:188 (2,3) - Move this down 4 squares (grid 4). Ugly overlap in game.
00:33:521 (2,3) - Move it right 1 square (grid 4). Again, unncessary ugly overlap.
00:40:410 (1) - Reduce the volume on this a bit, 40% is good.
01:08:188 (2,3) - Move right 1, down 1 (grid 4).
01:16:188 (2,3) - Down 2 squares (grid 4).
01:23:077 (1) - 40% volume.

[Normal]

  1. 00:11:077 to 00:21:521 - volume 60%?
  2. 00:53:744 to 01:04:188 - volume 60%
[Tenshi's Hard]

00:14:299 (3) - Delete? Rhythm sounds better without it imo.
00:14:632 (5,6) - Sorry but these small sliders are awful at this SV, don't play well at all imho. I think they would be better replaced as circles.
00:15:632 (8) - ^
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle from the slider body.
00:16:632 (2,3) - Spacing? It's spaced like 1/3 when it's 1/6. Compare the spacing with 00:13:077 (1,2) -
00:17:632 (4) - Same thing about this small slider.
00:19:632 (3) - ^
01:04:299 (4) - Delete? Sounds better to me.
01:23:632 (2) - Delete and replace with note at 01:23:744 - instead? Follows the rhythm of the song better at this part.

[Insan3]

  1. For me this diff didn't follow the pace of the song. Sure, it's hardish and has lots of jumps but I don't think it suits the song.
00:05:077 (1,2,3) - Why's the jump so big? It doesn't really fit; just compare it to how you mapped the same music 00:15:744 (2) - 00:31:744 (4,5,6) - etc)
00:05:521 (3) - Add whistle?
00:08:410 (1,2) - Keep the same rhythm as 00:09:744 (3,4,5) - or maybe end 00:08:410 (1) - sooner at 00:08:855 - and add some notes after. Right now it just sounds odd, there's no drum beat in the song at 00:08:966 but you have one and then there's the gap that makes no sense when you compare it to 00:05:744 (1,2,3,4) -
00:32:188 (6) - Add whistle here?
00:41:299 (2,3) - ^
01:07:521 (2,3,4) - Huge jump for no reason? It comes out of nowhere and there's nothing in the music that seems justify the biggest jump in the map.
01:13:077 (5) - New combo? Helps readability of 01:13:521 (7) - imo

Nice work with the SB, hitsounding and mapping an interesting song.
Tenshi-nyan
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Tenshi-nyan

Shulin wrote:

[Tenshi's Hard]

00:14:299 (3) - Delete? Rhythm sounds better without it imo. Sounds better the way it is to me.
00:14:632 (5,6) - Sorry but these small sliders are awful at this SV, don't play well at all imho. I think they would be better replaced as circles. re-worked this part.
00:15:632 (8) - ^ but not this one. It's fine to me.
00:15:966 (9) - Remove whistle from the slider body. how did that even get there?
00:16:632 (2,3) - Spacing? It's spaced like 1/3 when it's 1/6. Compare the spacing with 00:13:077 (1,2) - I like this spacing, it's easy enough to read IMO. And I don't want them sliders touching each other.
00:17:632 (4) - Same thing about this small slider. I remember this not being the way it is. I wonder if DarkDunskin changed this without my permisson?
00:19:632 (3) - ^ no.
01:04:299 (4) - Delete? Sounds better to me. nope
01:23:632 (2) - Delete and replace with note at 01:23:744 - instead? Follows the rhythm of the song better at this part. hm. nope.
Hm.

http://puu.sh/Bxyl

Just hand out that damn bubble, this map is already over-modded right now.
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin
Shulin's Mod

Shulin wrote:

[General]

  1. I suggest removing kiai from all diffs (except Tenshi's which doesn't have it). I don't think it's necessary, you have a lovely SB and some strobes already; what's the point of adding more flashing? Removed all Kiai's except Taiko, because it has no SB.
  2. Dark blue combo colour blends in too well with black parts of the SB like 00:00:410 - maybe increase the lum to about 85-100 or choose a lighter colour you like. Chosena lighter blue for all diffs
  3. Not a big issue but the BG has awful black borders at the top and bottom, it'd be great if you could find a BG without this because the current one doesn't look great. Removed black bars and resized with Photo-Editor
  4. Add black fade out to the end of the SB, it's odd having to see the BG right at the end of the map.Osu-BG vanisehd~


[Easy]

  1. Why 80% volume at the start and at 00:53:744 you should keep this consistent with Normal and change it to 40% (and 60% if you follow my suggestion) in these places.
made it consistent with normal

00:28:188 (2,3) - Move this down 4 squares (grid 4). Ugly overlap in game. done
00:33:521 (2,3) - Move it right 1 square (grid 4). Again, unncessary ugly overlap. done
00:40:410 (1) - Reduce the volume on this a bit, 40% is good.fixed
01:08:188 (2,3) - Move right 1, down 1 (grid 4). fixed
01:16:188 (2,3) - Down 2 squares (grid 4). done
01:23:077 (1) - 40% volume. yup

[Normal]

  1. 00:11:077 to 00:21:521 - volume 60%? accepted
  2. 00:53:744 to 01:04:188 - volume 60%
cool

Thanks for you Mod and Star, I hope you will recheck after p3n's update~
p3n
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p3n

Shulin wrote:

[Insan3]

  1. For me this diff didn't follow the pace of the song. Sure, it's hardish and has lots of jumps but I don't think it suits the song.
then you are the first one to think that way. but whatever...can't please everyone ;)

00:05:077 (1,2,3) - Why's the jump so big? It doesn't really fit; just compare it to how you mapped the same music 00:15:744 (2) - 00:31:744 (4,5,6) - etc) jump seems fine as it picks up the volume change
00:05:521 (3) - Add whistle? sure, since you are the 3rd one to want a whistle right here
00:08:410 (1,2) - Keep the same rhythm as 00:09:744 (3,4,5) - or maybe end 00:08:410 (1) - sooner at 00:08:855 - and add some notes after. Right now it just sounds odd, there's no drum beat in the song at 00:08:966 but you have one and then there's the gap that makes no sense when you compare it to 00:05:744 (1,2,3,4) - I changed it to something I think turned out pretty well as it is easy and repeatitive (jk it is better now)
00:32:188 (6) - Add whistle here? errrrr ok
00:41:299 (2,3) - ^ nope
01:07:521 (2,3,4) - Huge jump for no reason? It comes out of nowhere and there's nothing in the music that seems justify the biggest jump in the map. again volume and fits rather well in terms of flow
01:13:077 (5) - New combo? Helps readability of 01:13:521 (7) - imo well it used to be a NC here...but ppl keep constantly bitching about my "readability NCs"....you are awesom for acknowledging something like that

I'm a bit sad you don't "like" that rather old-school mapping style but as I said I can't please everyone. Changed the on-beat part in the beginning to be more predictable from a players perspective (one who never heard the song - so yeah it is similar to 1/2 spam that is in EVERY map nowadays but really easy to get).


@DD: Hope this gets done soon. All of the last 5-6 mods were nothing but personal suggestions (which I appreciate very much) or useless "NC here NC there" mods. If there isn't anything technically wrong or against ranking criteria I wouldn't change anything further. The map is hardly the same I uploaded in the first place...it begins to feel less like "my" map and more like a "patchwork" if I change it even further.

Hiroshi Yamaguchi - Oki the Hero (DarkDunskin) [Insan3]
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin
Everything up-to-date. Now trying to get one of those 6 MAT's back for a recheck -.-
Shulin
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Shulin
I'm here ~

[Normal]

This now has some unsnapped slider ends that weren't there before here are the locations:

00:36:827 (3) -
00:40:827 (3) -
01:00:160 (5) -
01:19:494 (3) -
01:23:494 (3) -

If you can fix these that'd be great.

[Tenshi's Hard]

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

00:16:632 (2,3) - Spacing? It's spaced like 1/3 when it's 1/6. Compare the spacing with 00:13:077 (1,2) - I like this spacing, it's easy enough to read IMO. And I don't want them sliders touching each other.
Still disagree with this, the jump isn't intuitive and there's no real way of telling it's a 1/6 jump without looking in editor or playing it several times; it's just bad spacing and the slider overlap isn't even that ugly. If it still feels too cramped you could always move 00:16:410 (1,2,3,4,5) - to the irght of 00:15:966 (9) - but this needs fixing for me.

Tenshi-nyan wrote:

01:23:632 (2) - Delete and replace with note at 01:23:744 - instead? Follows the rhythm of the song better at this part. hm. nope.
Any reason? Just tested it again and it really does flow better with this section.

[Insane]

01:24:188 (1) - If you could change this new combo to the middle blue colour it's easier to read.

I'm cool with everything else. If you still disagree you're welcome to call someone else just let me know.
Tenshi-nyan
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Tenshi-nyan
Fine, fixed both of them now.

http://puu.sh/BRgD
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin

Shulin wrote:

I'm here ~
Unexpected, but a nice surprise :D

[Normal]

This now has some unsnapped slider ends that weren't there before here are the locations:
Not only unsnapped sliderend, it seem the whole map got a bit off so I full resnapped everything.

00:36:827 (3) - done
00:40:827 (3) - done
01:00:160 (5) - done
01:19:494 (3) - done
01:23:494 (3) - done

If you can fix these that'd be great.

[Insane]

01:24:188 (1) - If you could change this new combo to the middle blue colour it's easier to read. Fixed for p3n
Shulin
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Shulin
And we're good to go.
Xakyrie
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Xakyrie
yaaaaay finally a bubble \T T/ ~
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin
Alright, thanks Shulin :D

Now trying to get wmf rechecking this Map again -.-
wmfchris
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wmfchris
[General]
- Considering you're not applying any SB to taiko diff, and the .osb is making scrolling sound corresponding to the SB, just merge .osb into .osu. (and then delete osb and full submit =P)
- So Pereira006 doesn't really mapped the GD to be ranked? In this case I'm not really sure whether he should be tagged (e.g. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21754 where Doomsday made a diff)

[Taiko]
00:47:744 - Like what you've done before it's preferred to use a kdk / dkd stuff to fit the flute in the music. Consider dkkdk?

[Hard]
I'll suggest a HP-1 since this is just a hard. (as HP in insane is the same)
00:06:632 (3) - Just a spacing that you can easily fix. down 1 grid lv4
00:13:744 (2,3,4,5,6) - sounds a bit akward comparing with the quiet music background (don't have better solution but orz)
00:19:632 (3,4,5) - ^

[Normal]
01:00:188 (5) - clap at the beginning like you've done before?

looks ready, so when they're fixed just call me.
DarkDunskin
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DarkDunskin

wmfchris wrote:

[General]
- Considering you're not applying any SB to taiko diff, and the .osb is making scrolling sound corresponding to the SB, just merge .osb into .osu. (and then delete osb and full submit =P)

Sorry I can not change that. If I put the Storyboard into .osu instead of .osb the Storyboardsounds gets twice as loud because the .osb will automatically recreate itself or something like that. That's a Bug and has not been fixed so far. Talk with Lybydose about that if you don't believe it, he has the same Problem on this Map: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/40339/start=30

- So Pereira006 doesn't really mapped the GD to be ranked? In this case I'm not really sure whether he should be tagged (e.g. http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21754 where Doomsday made a diff) Okay, untagged pereira006

[Taiko]
00:47:744 - Like what you've done before it's preferred to use a kdk / dkd stuff to fit the flute in the music. Consider dkkdk?
Sorry I don't like dkkdk Combos at all :/

[Hard]
I'll suggest a HP-1 since this is just a hard. (as HP in insane is the same) done
00:06:632 (3) - Just a spacing that you can easily fix. down 1 grid lv4 fixed
00:13:744 (2,3,4,5,6) - sounds a bit akward comparing with the quiet music background (don't have better solution but orz) okay
00:19:632 (3,4,5) - ^ sure

[Normal]
01:00:188 (5) - clap at the beginning like you've done before? done

looks ready, so when they're fixed just call me.
wmfchris
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wmfchris
Merged .osb into .osu diff after discussion.

The SB is awesome, and deserve a rank.
Regou
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Regou
Congrats first :)

but...shouldn't the BPM be 135? @@
HellDawn
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Congratz
LunarSakuya
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FINALYYYYYYYYYYYY LOVE THIS SONGGGG ever since i modded it
Mercurial
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Congratz man!
YTYuyu
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OMG FINALLY :o. congratz on the rank ;)
Dino99
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Hey~~ gratz x3
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DDS! DDS! Congratulation with Ranked!
Yasora
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congrats~
DarkDunskin
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Thanks to all who helped me out here and others as well~
Frizz
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Gratz~
OnosakiHito
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Congratulation~
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Congratz for the rank~
Now just need to get mine there to accompany this song... /orz
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