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Darcsol

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:

[Normal]
00:31:912 (2) - this note is off Fixed.
00:46:343 (1) - whistle
00:50:741 (1,1) - add whistle on the head
00:55:689 (2) - whistle? The rest are unnecessary.

[Hard]
00:20:504 (2) - whistle
00:27:651 (4) - add a note Added.
00:28:613 (7) - remove whistle
00:28:751 (1) - whistle
01:19:269 (6) - remove whistle
01:19:407 (1) - whistle
01:32:051 (6) - whistle The rest are unnecessary and sounds awkward.
WVSagi
from #modreqs :)

[General]
(sorry, but i'm not good at modding easy maps x.x, i think i'm just going to mod the Normal and Hard diff, and i'm also a new modder, sorry if my mod is bad! :oops:)
I'm glad someone map this song, I really love it and i'm also a big fans of C418. nice background. :oops:
here we go :)


[Normal]
00:25:315 (3) - Add whistle at the end of the slider.
00:26:002 (4) - remove any sounds (no claps, whistle, or finish) on this slider.
00:27:926 (4) - lol, don't put the whistle at the end of the slider, put it on the front of the slider.
00:32:324 (3) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
00:33:973 (3) - add whistle at the end of the slider.
00:34:798 (4) - same like 00:26:002
00:36:722 (3) - add whistle here.
00:38:096 (2) - add a clap, maybe?
00:42:220 (2) - add a whistle at the end of the slider.
00:58:791 (3) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
01:00:990 (3) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
01:04:976 (2) - add whistle at the end of the slider.
01:05:663 (1) - remove whistle.
01:07:587 (4) - http://puu.sh/hLAa <- make the slider like this? + add the whistle on the front slider, not at the end.
01:08:137 (5) - add whistle
01:09:786 (4) - add whistle at the front of the slider (remove the whistle on the end of the slider.)
01:10:336 (1) - same like ^.
01:20:369 (2) - add whistle at the end of the slider.
01:21:056 (3) - remove whistle.
01:22:980 (3) - add whistle.
01:23:255 (4) - remove whistle.
01:23:255 (4) - add whistle.
01:25:454 (1) - remove whistle.
01:27:378 (4) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
01:29:027 (2) - same like 01:20:369 (2).
-------------------------------------------------

[Hard]
None.
this hard diff is perfect for me!

I wish this map is ranked ASAP! ;)
goodluck! :oops:
Topic Starter
Darcsol

wvs wrote:

[Normal]
00:25:315 (3) - Add whistle at the end of the slider.
00:26:002 (4) - remove any sounds (no claps, whistle, or finish) on this slider.
00:27:926 (4) - lol, don't put the whistle at the end of the slider, put it on the front of the slider.
00:32:324 (3) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
00:33:973 (3) - add whistle at the end of the slider.
00:34:798 (4) - same like 00:26:002
00:36:722 (3) - add whistle here.
00:38:096 (2) - add a clap, maybe?
00:42:220 (2) - add a whistle at the end of the slider.
00:58:791 (3) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
01:00:990 (3) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
01:04:976 (2) - add whistle at the end of the slider.
01:05:663 (1) - remove whistle.
01:07:587 (4) - http://puu.sh/hLAa <- make the slider like this? + add the whistle on the front slider, not at the end.
01:08:137 (5) - add whistle
01:09:786 (4) - add whistle at the front of the slider (remove the whistle on the end of the slider.)
01:10:336 (1) - same like ^.
01:20:369 (2) - add whistle at the end of the slider.
01:21:056 (3) - remove whistle.
01:22:980 (3) - add whistle.
01:23:255 (4) - remove whistle.
01:23:255 (4) - add whistle.
01:25:454 (1) - remove whistle.
01:27:378 (4) - same like 00:27:926 (4).
01:29:027 (2) - same like 01:20:369 (2).
Everything fixed and added except that adding clap hitsound; can't see it fit.
Your mod is very helpful. Fixes most of my crappy efforts in creating hitsound patterns.
DarknessAngel
request from #modreq ~ :)



Red words = Unrankable thing
Blue words = It is the best way that you fix it
Black words = If I were you,I would do that
Green words = some of my comment,or something I want you to notice


Hard

  1. 00:23:293 (3,1) - add whistles on those slider's head ? I think it would fit the vocal better
  2. 00:43:909 (4) - I think it stack on [00:44:184 (1)] would be better because the spacing make players a little
    confused
  3. 00:48:032 (4) - 3 grid down (grid level 4)
  4. 01:02:807 (3) - add whistle on the slider's head ?

Normal

  1. 00:47:757 (4) - Don't do that in Normal diff.Beginner can't read the map like this.Please fix
    spacing here
  2. 00:58:821 (3) - add whistle on the slider's tail because you do that at [00:06:251 (4)]
  3. 01:01:020 (3) - ^

lovhin's Easy

  1. 00:08:450 (4) - add whistle on the slider's tail ? it would fit the vocal well
  2. 00:21:094 (3) - add clap on the slider's arrow ?
  3. 01:31:531 (4) - add whistle on the slider's arrow ?

soft music \:D/
good luck ~
Topic Starter
Darcsol

DarknessAngel wrote:

Hard

  1. 00:23:293 (3,1) - add whistles on those slider's head ? I think it would fit the vocal better Added.
  2. 00:43:909 (4) - I think it stack on [00:44:184 (1)] would be better because the spacing make players a little
    confused This is intended. If there's enough criticism from modders against it I will consider the change.
  3. 00:48:032 (4) - 3 grid down (grid level 4) I have made a different change instead.
  4. 01:02:807 (3) - add whistle on the slider's head ? Added.

Normal

  1. 00:47:757 (4) - Don't do that in Normal diff.Beginner can't read the map like this.Please fix
    spacing here
    Fixed.
  2. 00:58:821 (3) - add whistle on the slider's tail because you do that at [00:06:251 (4)]
  3. 01:01:020 (3) - ^ Both added.
soft music \:D/
good luck ~
lovhin456
DarknessAngel
If my modding is useful,please give me kudosu ~ >3<
hillaryzx
Yo, Darcsol, here my mod~

General

- At 00:56:864 and 00:57:447, I think by replacing red timing line with green one will produce the same effect except changing in BPM of the song, of course...

lovhin's Easy

01:00:195(3) - change this into 1 slider( I mean no repeating slider... )
01:01:845(1) - this can be a repeating slider like this:



01:27:683 - I feel blank here, why don't add a note here~

Normal

00:04:602(1) - I don't think finish is suitable here, try substitute it with whistle, better sound will be produce :3
00:13:260(1) - shift it to 13:398, better
00:16:696(3) - move this slider to 16:971 like this:



00:27:554(3) - move this note to 27:416
01:19:437(1) - add finish to this slider's head

Hard

this diff is already good to me~

well, I have to say -
I'll take my leave...
Topic Starter
Darcsol

hillaryzx wrote:

General

- At 00:56:864 and 00:57:447, I think by replacing red timing line with green one will produce the same effect except changing in BPM of the song, of course... ...How does that work?

Normal

00:04:602(1) - I don't think finish is suitable here, try substitute it with whistle, better sound will be produce :3 I'll reduce the hitsound volume instead.
00:13:260(1) - shift it to 13:398, better I think it's fine. Felt awkward when it's at your suggested place.
00:16:696(3) - move this slider to 16:971 like this: Fixed.



00:27:554(3) - move this note to 27:416 I think it's fine.
01:19:437(1) - add finish to this slider's head Added.
Hard

this diff is already good to me~ :D
lovhin456
Sorry but no change, anyways thank you for the mod ^^
B2IN
hello

[General]
Not fit the beat

offset :4575
spboxer3
from #modreqs

[general]


  • Settings
  1. (For the setting/general issue.)
  2. Inconsistency in PreviewTime in : lovhin's Easy.
  3. Inconsistency in uninherited timing in : lovhin's Easy.
  4. unify ending spinner in all diff?

[lovhin's Easy]



  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:46:386 (2,1) - don't you let it stack? "(2)'s slider head and (1)'s slider tail."
good mapset :P
I can't find any problem~

[Normal]



  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:25:358 (3,4,1) - spacing issue
  2. 00:39:789 (1) - slider end at 00:40:339 - ? I think it's better :(
  3. 00:56:831 (1) - unsnap? you should move it to 00:56:904 -
  4. 01:09:822 (4,1,2,3) - uneven spacing~
  5. 01:21:779 (1) - move to 01:21:642 - ? (I can't hear any downbeat at 01:21:779 - T_T)

[Hard]




  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. sorry~I can't find any problem in this diff~
awesome :)
red is unrankable issue. bule is need to discuss. Black is just suggest.


that's all~
good luck and star it ;)
lovhin456

spboxer3 wrote:

[general]


  • Settings
  1. (For the setting/general issue.)
  2. Inconsistency in PreviewTime in : lovhin's Easy.
  3. Inconsistency in uninherited timing in : lovhin's Easy.
Fixed preview time and offset too. Uh, what do you mean by uninherited timing ? The green sections ? Are they not well snapped or just that they aren't the same as other diffs ? Because that's not unrankable

[lovhin's Easy]



  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:46:386 (2,1) - don't you let it stack? "(2)'s slider head and (1)'s slider tail."
good mapset :P
I can't find any problem~
Umm, I would like to keep this
Download: C418 - Sometimes I make video game music (Darcsol) [lovhin's Easy].osu
Topic Starter
Darcsol

spboxer3 wrote:

[general]


  • Settings
  1. (For the setting/general issue.)
  2. Inconsistency in PreviewTime in : lovhin's Easy.
  3. Inconsistency in uninherited timing in : lovhin's Easy.
  4. unify ending spinner in all diff?
Everything should be fixed by lovhin. For the ending spinner this is all on lovhin as well.

[Normal]



  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:25:358 (3,4,1) - spacing issue I really don't see the issue here?
  2. 00:39:789 (1) - slider end at 00:40:339 - ? I think it's better :( I think it's fine the way it is.
  3. 00:56:831 (1) - unsnap? you should move it to 00:56:904 - Fixed.
  4. 01:09:822 (4,1,2,3) - uneven spacing~ Fixed.
  5. 01:21:779 (1) - move to 01:21:642 - ? (I can't hear any downbeat at 01:21:779 - T_T) Fixed.
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Darcsol wrote:

spboxer3 wrote:

[general]


  • Settings
  1. (For the setting/general issue.)
  2. Inconsistency in PreviewTime in : lovhin's Easy.
  3. Inconsistency in uninherited timing in : lovhin's Easy.
  4. unify ending spinner in all diff?
Everything should be fixed by lovhin. For the ending spinner, I don't mind.

[Normal]



  • mapping
    (These are about your pattern.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  1. 00:25:358 (3,4,1) - spacing issue I really don't see the issue here?
  2. 00:39:789 (1) - slider end at 00:40:339 - ? I think it's better :( I think it's fine the way it is.
  3. 00:56:831 (1) - unsnap? you should move it to 00:56:904 - Fixed.
  4. 01:09:822 (4,1,2,3) - uneven spacing~ Fixed.
  5. 01:21:779 (1) - move to 01:21:642 - ? (I can't hear any downbeat at 01:21:779 - T_T) Fixed.
And I just realized I double-posted. :\
Aurele
As requested on #modreqs.

[General]
  1. The first Timing Point (Red) should be ;
    BPM: 109,00 ; Offset: 148
  2. the offset of the other two timings are okay, just change the bpm.
Fix this in every diffs and I will remod.
I even asked those for the timing help.
Garven
Heya. Just grabbed this from #modreqs

[General]
That third uninherited timing section feels really really off. I'm horrible with offets though, so I recomend you find someone that's actually decent at it to make this better, but I suggest BPM 109.00 and offset 57417 or around that area.

[lovhin's Easy]
I'm kind of wary of the short bumper sliders already, but using 00:29:322 (4,5) - sliders like that are kidn of iffy in an Easy. I'm sure you can come up with something a bit better to represent that sort of rhythm without resorting to short sliders like this. Applies to later in the map as well.
00:52:992 (4) - I don't recommend you stack under slider ends in an easy.
This difficulty ends a little earlier than the other two. Maybe line them up?

[Normal]
Be careful and check your rhythms (which felt borderline hardish in use) after you change the offset. The resnap likes to mess with things when the offset is changed in large amounts.
Otherwise a pretty okay difficulty.

[Hard]
00:43:359 (3,4,1) - Not really digging these anti-jumps - especially since the rhythm changes with each beat.
00:44:184 (1) - The whistle on the sliderslide sounds awful here D:
00:51:065 (2) - ^
01:07:636 (4) - ^ etc. There are probably more but this gives you an idea to listen for in case you agree.
01:31:306 (3,4) - Why suddenly change up your stacks to the opposite? Kind of kills the consistency a bit.
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Garven wrote:

Heya. Just grabbed this from #modreqs

[General]
That third uninherited timing section feels really really off. I'm horrible with offets though, so I recomend you find someone that's actually decent at it to make this better, but I suggest BPM 109.00 and offset 57417 or around that area. I agree. But it's mainly the second timing section that does the heaving lifting. The third section is just for the beats to align with the song. I'm not good at finding offsets; hopefully someone would fix that for me.

[Normal]
Be careful and check your rhythms (which felt borderline hardish in use) after you change the offset. The resnap likes to mess with things when the offset is changed in large amounts. Indeed. I'm still figuring out how this difficulty would work out. It is borderline hard; need to tone it down a little.

[Hard]
00:43:359 (3,4,1) - Not really digging these anti-jumps - especially since the rhythm changes with each beat. I think this are fine.
00:44:184 (1) - The whistle on the sliderslide sounds awful here D:
00:51:065 (2) - ^
01:07:636 (4) - ^ etc. There are probably more but this gives you an idea to listen for in case you agree. I'm not great at creating hitsound patterns. Majority of whistles removed/adjusted.
01:31:306 (3,4) - Why suddenly change up your stacks to the opposite? Kind of kills the consistency a bit. Stack slightly adjusted.
lovhin456

Garven wrote:

[lovhin's Easy]
I'm kind of wary of the short bumper sliders already, but using 00:29:322 (4,5) - sliders like that are kidn of iffy in an Easy. I'm sure you can come up with something a bit better to represent that sort of rhythm without resorting to short sliders like this. Applies to later in the map as well. I honestly think that they are fine, for me at least they are easy to play and go well with the music. Sorry but no change here
00:52:992 (4) - I don't recommend you stack under slider ends in an easy. Fixed
This difficulty ends a little earlier than the other two. Maybe line them up? Ok
Download: C418 - Sometimes I make video game music (Darcsol) [lovhin's Easy].osu
crabovan
Hey, I from #modreqs

General

Offset: 179
Than select all element in the map and move to nearest tick (or osu Resnap all notes).
Than move all green points. Do it with all diffs.



Hard

00:05:133 (2,3,4) - maybe better remake this with symmetria about axis Y?
00:35:958 (2,3) - make 3 with 0.00x DS about 2
01:06:764 (2,3) - ^^^
01:26:580 (2,3) - ^^^

Normal

00:20:239 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe better remake this with symmetria about axis X?

lovhin's Easy

All fine :3
Topic Starter
Darcsol

crabovan wrote:

Hey, I from #modreqs

General

Offset: 179
Than select all element in the map and move to nearest tick (or osu Resnap all notes).
Than move all green points. Do it with all diffs.


Everything should be fixed. "lovhin" is already in Tags. The .jpg is only a pixel away from the recommended size; it's close enough. 8-)

Hard

00:05:133 (2,3,4) - maybe better remake this with symmetria about axis Y? I'm confused what you're suggesting. Please rephrase it so I can better understand it . Either way I have made slight adjustments.
00:35:958 (2,3) - make 3 with 0.00x DS about 2
01:06:764 (2,3) - ^^^
01:26:580 (2,3) - ^^^ I think all of this is fine.

Normal

00:20:239 (1,2,3,4,5) - maybe better remake this with symmetria about axis X? Again I'm confused what you're suggesting. Please rephrase it.
TheVileOne
General
Second red line can be deleted. Third red line should be timing checked.

Easy

00:55:775 (2) - This is somewhat hard to hit. I tend to hit 24 ms early. I think something else should be done here, because this note doesn't form a rhythm or contribute to a beat. Adding a repeat to that slider and moving the note forward to the red tick fixes the readability issues.
01:31:554 (4) - Please move 1/2th back
01:32:380 - Start end spinner here? (adjust volume to new spinner start)

Normal

Slowdown section was too slow for my tastes and there are numerous odd playing beats, and this difficulty lacks hitsounds in areas.

Why are you mapping in 3/4th time when you can just as easily map to 1/2th for this song?

If you map in 1/2th you could have lot more hitsounding opportunities.

00:13:252 (1,2,3) - This beat isn't very appealing and inconsistent since you only map the beat like this once in this part of the song. What's wrong with mapping 1/2th? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352117
00:15:867 (2) - Add whistle to end.
00:20:545 (2) - whistle
00:31:830 (2) - whistle on end?
00:32:380 (3) - whistle on end instead of start?
00:32:931 (1) - whistle on end?
00:34:032 (3) - whistle on start instead of end?
00:34:857 (4) - whistle on start?
00:35:408 (1) - finish on start (other areas of the song may be prime spots for finishes- look for them)
00:37:610 (1) - whistle on start
00:40:912 (2) - Please move this half back. It's really awkward where it currently is. Also add whistle.
00:41:463 (1) - whistle on end
00:42:289 (2) - whistle on start
00:45:041 (2) - ^
00:54:399 (3) - Move 1/4th back?
00:54:674 - Add note (completes the rhythm started by doing the thing above)
00:59:375 - Add note?
00:59:650 (1,2,3,4) - This plays so much better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352119 (IMO most of your 3/4th segments, replaced by half segments would sound and play better)
01:04:054 (1) - whistle on end
01:04:880 (2) - How about adding a repeat to this and adding a note on the next long white tick instead?
01:06:806 (2,3,4) - Kind of awkward to play. Perhaps just map it like this. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352121 < timeline only
01:10:935 (2) - whistle on end
01:11:485 (3) - make a full beat long? I think it plays better that way.
01:25:522 (1) - whistle on start, finish on end
01:30:338 (1) - Just add a note on the long white tick instead?

Overall below potential IMO.

Hard

The beat here is a lot more intuitive than in Normal. There's still a lot of room for improvement though.

00:09:949 (2) - Move 1/4th back. It plays better there.
00:13:390 (1,2,3) - < this combo. I think something like this would be better. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352125
00:15:867 (2) - whistle on end instead of start?
00:17:243 (5,1,2,3,4) - This would flow better in 1/2th
00:23:848 (1) - Add whistle to end
00:24:674 (2) - add whistle to end instead of start
00:29:353 (2) - Add whistle to start?
00:41:463 (3,1,2) - I don't like how close together the notes are here. Perhaps space slightly greater than distance snap to make it look better.
00:42:289 (2) - Whistle to end?
00:43:665 - Please add a note here.
00:45:041 (2) - add whistle to start
00:45:867 (1) - ^
00:47:243 (3) - ^
01:00:464 (2,3) - Plays strangely. I suggest you start this with a note and then have the slider start here 01:00:602 - and ends on the red tick
01:16:152 - add note? I think it plays better as a triple.
01:21:932 (2) - Whistle on end?
01:30:326 (1) - plays sort of weird. maybe just have a note on the long white tick.
01:32:253 (7) - Delete? It's not really a part of the beat.

Conclusion

i'm going to wait to hear feedback beforeI star this. I need to make sure we're communicating before I consider this beatmap ready.
lovhin456

TheVileOne wrote:

General
Second red line can be deleted. Third red line should be timing checked.
I will leave this to Darcsol

Easy

00:55:775 (2) - This is somewhat hard to hit. I tend to hit 24 ms early. I think something else should be done here, because this note doesn't form a rhythm or contribute to a beat. Adding a repeat to that slider and moving the note forward to the red tick fixes the readability issues. Mmm not sure but fixed
01:31:554 (4) - Please move 1/2th back Did something else
01:32:380 - Start end spinner here? (adjust volume to new spinner start) I don't understand what you say here start end ? Sorry, no change
http://puu.sh/DGKw
Topic Starter
Darcsol

TheVileOne wrote:

General
Second red line can be deleted. Third red line should be timing checked. Done.

Normal

Slowdown section was too slow for my tastes and there are numerous odd playing beats, and this difficulty lacks hitsounds in areas. I think the slow section is fine. I agree there are some oddities (explanation below). And I completely fail at hitsounds.

Why are you mapping in 3/4th time when you can just as easily map to 1/2th for this song?

If you map in 1/2th you could have lot more hitsounding opportunities.
Majority of beats follow the 3/4th time. It was very experimental and I tried to follow that, but ultimately it didn't worked as I hoped.

00:13:252 (1,2,3) - This beat isn't very appealing and inconsistent since you only map the beat like this once in this part of the song. What's wrong with mapping 1/2th? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352117 Fixed.
00:15:867 (2) - Add whistle to end.
00:20:545 (2) - whistle
00:31:830 (2) - whistle on end?
00:32:380 (3) - whistle on end instead of start?
00:32:931 (1) - whistle on end?
00:34:032 (3) - whistle on start instead of end?
00:34:857 (4) - whistle on start?
00:35:408 (1) - finish on start (other areas of the song may be prime spots for finishes- look for them)
00:37:610 (1) - whistle on start
00:40:912 (2) - Please move this half back. It's really awkward where it currently is. Also add whistle.
00:41:463 (1) - whistle on end
00:42:289 (2) - whistle on start
00:45:041 (2) - ^
00:54:399 (3) - Move 1/4th back?
00:54:674 - Add note (completes the rhythm started by doing the thing above)
00:59:375 - Add note?
00:59:650 (1,2,3,4) - This plays so much better http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352119 (IMO most of your 3/4th segments, replaced by half segments would sound and play better)
01:04:054 (1) - whistle on end
01:04:880 (2) - How about adding a repeat to this and adding a note on the next long white tick instead?
01:06:806 (2,3,4) - Kind of awkward to play. Perhaps just map it like this. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352121 < timeline only
01:10:935 (2) - whistle on end
01:11:485 (3) - make a full beat long? I think it plays better that way.
01:25:522 (1) - whistle on start, finish on end
01:30:338 (1) - Just add a note on the long white tick instead?
Fixed/added all the above.

Overall below potential IMO. :cry:
I might consider to remap this diff.

Hard

The beat here is a lot more intuitive than in Normal. There's still a lot of room for improvement though.

00:09:949 (2) - Move 1/4th back. It plays better there. I think it's fine for now.
00:13:390 (1,2,3) - < this combo. I think something like this would be better. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/352125
00:15:867 (2) - whistle on end instead of start? All fixed.
00:17:243 (5,1,2,3,4) - This would flow better in 1/2th Can you be more specific?
00:23:848 (1) - Add whistle to end
00:24:674 (2) - add whistle to end instead of start
00:29:353 (2) - Add whistle to start?
00:41:463 (3,1,2) - I don't like how close together the notes are here. Perhaps space slightly greater than distance snap to make it look better.
00:42:289 (2) - Whistle to end?
00:43:665 - Please add a note here.
00:45:041 (2) - add whistle to start
00:45:867 (1) - ^
00:47:243 (3) - ^
01:00:464 (2,3) - Plays strangely. I suggest you start this with a note and then have the slider start here 01:00:602 - and ends on the red tick
01:16:152 - add note? I think it plays better as a triple.
01:21:932 (2) - Whistle on end?
01:30:326 (1) - plays sort of weird. maybe just have a note on the long white tick.
01:32:253 (7) - Delete? It's not really a part of the beat.
The rest are fixed/added.
Conclusion

i'm going to wait to hear feedback beforeI star this. I need to make sure we're communicating before I consider this beatmap ready.
Most of your suggestions have been put to use. I appreciate your help.

Also, I think I've noticed during the slowdown section: the timing gets a bit funky. I don't know if it's just me or if there is a problem there. I'm really bad at timing so hopefully someone can clear this up.
pimp
hi there o/

from modreqs


general

offset 150 (179 is really off here) bpm 109

... and remove the 2nd timeline, resnap all notes...

Background forest.jpg is 1023x767, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768.

normal

00:13:252 (1,2,3,4) - fix the spacing, using 2x and 0,50x here

thats all :?
Topic Starter
Darcsol

pimpG wrote:

hi there o/

from modreqs


general

offset 150 (179 is really off here) bpm 109

... and remove the 2nd timeline, resnap all notes...

Background forest.jpg is 1023x767, which differs from the recommended size of 1024x768.

normal

00:13:252 (1,2,3,4) - fix the spacing, using 2x and 0,50x here

thats all :?
Had a chat with him over the IRC. Everything should be included and a bit more (minus the background).
h-728
Hi, from modreq.
first of all, I recommend you not to put circle on blue tick, especialy in Normal or lower diff.
all of my my opinions are just suggestion, so you can ignore them.
but I think you had better to fix.

[Easy]
  • 00:54:645 (1) - reduce reverse at one time.
    00:56:021 (2) - move to 00:55:746
[Normal]
  • 00:05:104 (2,3) - replace them to one slider.
    00:07:305 (2,3) - ^
    00:09:920 (2,3) - ^
    00:12:122 (2,3) - ^
    00:13:223 (1) - remove
    00:13:361 - add circle
    00:20:516 (2,3,4) - replace them to one slider.(from (2) to (3), and reverse it)
    00:24:920 (2,3) - ^
    00:27:122 (2,3) - ^
    00:35:379 (1) - end at 00:36:205
    00:36:342 (2) - remove
    00:38:957 (3,4) - replace them to one slider
    00:39:783 - you'd better not to change SV
    00:53:819 (2,3,4,5) - remove
    00:53:819 - put slider from here to 00:54:370, and reverse it.
    00:57:260 (1) - remove
    00:57:397 - add circle
    01:01:801 (1) - end at 01:02:627
    01:02:764 (2) - remove
    01:06:755 (2,3) - replace them to one slider
    01:08:957 (2,3) - ^
    01:12:535 (1) - end at 01:13:223, and reverse it
    01:13:223 (2,3) - remove
    01:17:764 (2,3) - replace them to one slider
    01:19:416 (1) - reverse
    01:20:379 (2) - remove
    01:30:975 (2,3) - replace them to one slider
    01:32:076 (5) - don't reverse. and lengthen till 01:32:351
[Hard]
  • 00:05:104 (2,3) - the rhythm is hard..so how about replace them to slider?
    00:12:122 (3,4) - to stack these notes will increase the difficulty to read rhythm imo.
    00:35:929 (2,3) - disable grid snap and stack perfectry.
    00:48:039 (4,5,1) - all stack or don't stack
    00:51:067 (2) - whistle is attached whole the slider. remove it, and add whistle head and end of slider.
    00:54:370 (2,3,4) - I think here's sound is out of rhythm, so can't follow (3)..how about put slider like this00:58:361 (2,3) - replace them to slider?
Topic Starter
Darcsol

h-728 wrote:

Hi, from modreq.
first of all, I recommend you not to put circle on blue tick, especialy in Normal or lower diff.
all of my my opinions are just suggestion, so you can ignore them.
but I think you had better to fix.


[Normal]
  • 00:05:104 (2,3) - replace them to one slider.
    00:07:305 (2,3) - ^
    00:09:920 (2,3) - ^
    00:12:122 (2,3) - ^
    00:13:223 (1) - remove
    00:13:361 - add circle
    00:20:516 (2,3,4) - replace them to one slider.(from (2) to (3), and reverse it)
    00:24:920 (2,3) - ^
    00:27:122 (2,3) - ^
    00:35:379 (1) - end at 00:36:205
    00:36:342 (2) - remove
    00:38:957 (3,4) - replace them to one slider
    00:39:783 - you'd better not to change SV
    00:53:819 (2,3,4,5) - remove
    00:53:819 - put slider from here to 00:54:370, and reverse it.
    00:57:260 (1) - remove
    00:57:397 - add circle
    01:01:801 (1) - end at 01:02:627
    01:02:764 (2) - remove
    01:06:755 (2,3) - replace them to one slider
    01:08:957 (2,3) - ^
    01:12:535 (1) - end at 01:13:223, and reverse it
    01:13:223 (2,3) - remove
    01:17:764 (2,3) - replace them to one slider
    01:19:416 (1) - reverse
    01:20:379 (2) - remove
    01:30:975 (2,3) - replace them to one slider
    01:32:076 (5) - don't reverse. and lengthen till 01:32:351
Currently I'm remapping this diff. I'll consider your suggestions whenever possible.

[Hard]
  • 00:05:104 (2,3) - the rhythm is hard..so how about replace them to slider? I think it's fine.
    00:12:122 (3,4) - to stack these notes will increase the difficulty to read rhythm imo. Again I think it's fine.
    00:35:929 (2,3) - disable grid snap and stack perfectry. Fixed.
    00:48:039 (4,5,1) - all stack or don't stack I don't see the problem here.
    00:51:067 (2) - whistle is attached whole the slider. remove it, and add whistle head and end of slider. It has been like that before.
    00:54:370 (2,3,4) - I think here's sound is out of rhythm, so can't follow (3)..how about put slider like this Added for now.
    00:58:361 (2,3) - replace them to slider? I think it's fine.
The 08 team_Bourdon
Hi ^^

[lovhin's Easy]
looks Great !

[Normal]
00:57:260 (1) - i prefer you remove this slider and add a circle at 00:57:397.
01:26:847 (3) - make the last slider's point downward one grid?
01:31:388 (3) - this is hard a bit to hit for normal players. i suggest change it in a slider is much better.

[Hard]
- Approach Rate change to 7?
- Overall Difficulty change to 6?
00:51:067 (2) - this slider repeating are be blocked on 00:49:691 (3) slider. Try to move it to other grid?
00:58:498 - add a circle?
01:02:627 - ^

----
Great mapset! Hope it can fast to rank :)
Good Luck!
Im sorry, i cant shoot the star for you, because now i not have any kud to shoot again ):
Topic Starter
Darcsol

The 08 team_Bourdon wrote:

[Normal]
00:57:260 (1) - i prefer you remove this slider and add a circle at 00:57:397. Added.
01:26:847 (3) - make the last slider's point downward one grid? I see where you're getting at, but it's only a stylistic change. Nonetheless it's fixed.
01:31:388 (3) - this is hard a bit to hit for normal players. i suggest change it in a slider is much better. The last few beats have been altered.

[Hard]
- Approach Rate change to 7? This map originally had an AP of 7 but it was changed due to my decision about the nature of the song. For now I'll change it and see how other players react.
- Overall Difficulty change to 6? Added.
00:51:067 (2) - this slider repeating are be blocked on 00:49:691 (3) slider. Try to move it to other grid? This is intended.
00:58:498 - add a circle? I don't see why a circle has to be added here.
01:02:627 - ^ Same as above.

----
Great mapset! Hope it can fast to rank :)
Good Luck!
Im sorry, i cant shoot the star for you, because now i not have any kud to shoot again ): Have some kudos~ :D
congaan
god it from #modreqs
sorry for short mod. and everything is just suggestion.

Hard
00:27:672 (x) - add new circle.this sound differ from 00:29:874. so i want note here.
00:32:076 (x) - ^
00:35:929 (2,3,4,5) - this rhythm was uncomfortable for me. how about this? http://puu.sh/HiEe
00:50:241 (1,2) - not return sliders would follow the song well. http://puu.sh/HiFS
01:02:627 (x) - add new circle?

GL~
Topic Starter
Darcsol

congaan wrote:

Hard
00:27:672 (x) - add new circle.this sound differ from 00:29:874. so i want note here.
00:32:076 (x) - ^ Both added.
00:35:929 (2,3,4,5) - this rhythm was uncomfortable for me. how about this? http://puu.sh/HiEe I think it's fine.
00:50:241 (1,2) - not return sliders would follow the song well. http://puu.sh/HiFS I don't see the problem here.
01:02:627 (x) - add new circle? Added.
Garven
[Easy]
00:54:645 (1) - Even if you disagreed about the majority of the short repeating sliders, I must insist that this one be changed. Having a 4-hit slider suddenly with a circle one beat afterward is a bit much. Also having the irregular rhythm stack right afterward is also pushing beyond the realm of an Easy difficulty.
01:33:727 - Wow, make this volume decrease much more gradual please. You're starting at a much much higher volume than Darcsol's difficulties, so these changes are very drastic and sound bad.

[Normal]
Mentioned one slider at 40 seconds in IRC.

Timing feels much nicer now. Fix up the easy and I can bubble this guy.
mancuso_JM_
Hi! :3

[lovhin's Easy:]

Settings:
--> Especially when appear the Sliders, the Approach Rate doesn't work at all, looks weird at this moment. In my opinion is better if you increase the Approach Rate by 1 Tick (AR+1)

• 00:06:755 (3): Would make a better sound here, if you add a Whistle on the beginning of this Slider. Also, you usually add Whistle on downbeats, so this would play a bit more with the consistency
• 00:16:663 (3): I study a bit this note and this point. Studying a bit I could conclude that there is no sound here and the sounds is 1/2 back, looking the low BPM, I think that a Note on a Red Tick doesn't make any kind of problems (I guess), for that I think that it's better if you move this Note 1/2 back (Red Tick, 00:16:388)
• 00:31:526 (2): Would be better if you remove the last Repeat of this Slider and then add a Note on 00:33:177 (Where it was the last repeat), because there is a music change on here and also it's more consistent with the whole of the map, you don't have another Sliders with more than a repeat in general, and to keep consistency this would be better
• 00:34:553 (4,1): Well, to be sincere I don't really know what are you following here, there is no sound where you have the end of this Slider and there are another sounds on another places where you didn't remark that. Saying that, it's better if you Replace the Slider to a Note on 00:34:553 and then add a Kick Slider in 1/2 and it will start on 00:35:104 and finish on 00:35:379 (Also delete the note that you have there). Here an Screenshoot to avoid any doubt:
• 00:54:645 (1): More than a Repeat on a 1/2 Slider is a bit difficult to New Players, because the are not ready to know the amount of Repetitions, eventually I think that the last repeat is unnececesary because there is No sound there, so, I Think that you should delete the last Repetition and then you shouldn't make anything.
• 00:56:434 (2,1): It's better if you unstack these Notes to avoid the Confusion in New players, because in General the Stacked Notes cause confusion in New Players
• 00:57:948 (2): It's better if you Remove a Repetition and then add a Note on 00:59:599 (Same reason as 00:31:526)
• 01:12:810 (3): Makes a good sense, and sounds really fine if you add a Whistle on this Note.
• 01:18:039 (4): The end of the Slider sounds totally unnecesary, because there is no Sound, for this reason is much better if you Replace the Slider to a Note in this position
• 01:21:067 (2): Following your patterns and because sounds really fine if you add a Whistle on the Slider's end.

[Normal:]

• 00:07:856 (3): This Slider is not following all the song here, to make that you should move this Slider 1/2 back (Red Tick, 00:07:581) and then make it bigger in 1/2, and this Slider will finish in 00:08:131
• 00:10:333 (3): For consistency in hitsounds, since you never used hitsounds on the Music special sounds, you should Remove the Whistle at the end of this Slider
• 00:13:911 (2,3): This pattern is not following the music at all, the music is not totally centralized in the points where you added the Note and the Slider, for this reason it's better if you exchange the position of that in the Timeline (mark those and then Ctrl + R), Here is an Screenshoot:
• 00:16:938 (4): In my opinion, the Slider Tick Rate doesn't covered the Rhythm in the music. An alternative is if you Reduce this Slider by 1/2 (would finish on 00:17:214) and then add a Note on 00:17:489.
• 00:21:067 (3): This Note doesn't sound on rhythm, it sounds a bit off-Rhythm because it doesn't appear any sound on this White Tick. Would be better if you move this Note 1/2 back and then add a Note on 00:21:342
• 00:28:773 (1): At the end, this Slider sounds unnecesary, the pause is more concentrated with the music if you Replace this Slider to a Note on a White Tick.
• 00:40:058 (1): It's better if this Slider starts where the music change with the Velocity change, for this reason I suggest you to move this Slider 1/2 back (White Tick, 00:39:507) and then make it bigger on 1/2.
• 00:56:847 (1): I can percive a change in the music, but this combo with just a Note looks very alone and for this reason looks aesethic. In my opinion would be better if you Remove this New Combo

[Hard:]

• Everything looks in Order here. Good Job :D

Ok, I saw that Garven posted and he said that is going to mod your map ;)
So, Good Luck on it! ;)
Topic Starter
Darcsol

mancusojuanmattos wrote:

[Normal:]

• 00:07:856 (3): This Slider is not following all the song here, to make that you should move this Slider 1/2 back (Red Tick, 00:07:581) and then make it bigger in 1/2, and this Slider will finish in 00:08:131
• 00:10:333 (3): For consistency in hitsounds, since you never used hitsounds on the Music special sounds, you should Remove the Whistle at the end of this Slider
• 00:13:911 (2,3): This pattern is not following the music at all, the music is not totally centralized in the points where you added the Note and the Slider, for this reason it's better if you exchange the position of that in the Timeline (mark those and then Ctrl + R), Here is an Screenshoot:
• 00:16:938 (4): In my opinion, the Slider Tick Rate doesn't covered the Rhythm in the music. An alternative is if you Reduce this Slider by 1/2 (would finish on 00:17:214) and then add a Note on 00:17:489.
• 00:21:067 (3): This Note doesn't sound on rhythm, it sounds a bit off-Rhythm because it doesn't appear any sound on this White Tick. Would be better if you move this Note 1/2 back and then add a Note on 00:21:342
• 00:28:773 (1): At the end, this Slider sounds unnecesary, the pause is more concentrated with the music if you Replace this Slider to a Note on a White Tick.
All fixed above.
• 00:40:058 (1): It's better if this Slider starts where the music change with the Velocity change, for this reason I suggest you to move this Slider 1/2 back (White Tick, 00:39:507) and then make it bigger on 1/2. This was already mentioned from Garven and has been taken care of.
• 00:56:847 (1): I can percive a change in the music, but this combo with just a Note looks very alone and for this reason looks aesethic. In my opinion would be better if you Remove this New Combo It is suppose to be aesthetic. I don't see any harm of it.
lovhin456
Changed the stuff Garven pointed out also some other things like the AR plus others that mancuso said
http://puu.sh/HOuJ
Low
Hey-o. Going to slip a quick mod in.

[General]

Your background dimensions are 1023x767, when it should be 1024x768. Here's the resized version.
The offset feels rather drastically off. Please try +15.

[lovhin's Easy]

00:05:104 (2) - Move this slider down a grid or two so that the middle is centered with 00:04:553 (1). It makes for a perfect blanket.
00:11:159 - I feel as if adding a note here would serve as a bridge for better flow from (2) to (4). It also makes the triangle pattern feels less empty. If you do add a note here, make sure to add a whistle to it.
00:17:214 (4) - Why not align this with the end of (2) to make a triangle pattern? It seems more intuitive than just placing objects in rather random places on the grid.
00:19:966 (2) - A whistle should be at the beginning of this slider in order to follow your hitsound pattern.
00:23:819 (3) - A whistle should be at the end of this slider. However, I feel as if this one is less necessary than the above case.
01:12:810 (3) - It would be a good idea to center this circle. Whenever mappers do this, it always feels neater to me. Sorry if my suggestions sound odd to you.

[Normal]

I'm curious as to why you didn't follow the claps in the song with the clap hitsound. It seems like something you should've done. Also, the beginning of the map is rather lacking in terms of hitsounds.
00:15:012 (1,3) - Having these sliders curve towards (2) rather than away from it looks more visually pleasing. If you don't understand what I mean, take a look at this.
00:21:342 (4) - Align this vertically with (3) (one grid to the right) for neatness.
00:56:847 (1) - Reduce the spacing like you did with all of the previous objects. It looks odd for it to start so abruptly.
01:04:828 (2) - This slider feels awkward and doesn't really follow any specific beat in the music. I recommend doing this or making it one long slider.

[Hard]

Again; why didn't you follow the claps with hitsounds? Seems odd not to.
00:51:067 (2) - Soft slider-whistle sounds awkward. Please remove it.
00:53:819 (2) - Shouldn't this slider be reversed? The flow currently feels choppy and weird. Also, remove the soft slider-whistle from it.
Topic Starter
Darcsol

Jacob wrote:

Hey-o. Going to slip a quick mod in.

[General]

Your background dimensions are 1023x767, when it should be 1024x768. Here's the resized version. It's only a pixel away... :( Added.
The offset feels rather drastically off. Please try +15. Instead I've increased it by 7, after considering all the other offsets I've tried.

[Normal]

I'm curious as to why you didn't follow the claps in the song with the clap hitsound. It seems like something you should've done. Also, the beginning of the map is rather lacking in terms of hitsounds. I never thought of it. Added.
00:15:012 (1,3) - Having these sliders curve towards (2) rather than away from it looks more visually pleasing. If you don't understand what I mean, take a look at this. Fixed.
00:21:342 (4) - Align this vertically with (3) (one grid to the right) for neatness. It was purposely aligned like that, a personal preference of mine. Either way, I made some adjustments.
00:56:847 (1) - Reduce the spacing like you did with all of the previous objects. It looks odd for it to start so abruptly. I think it's fine.
01:04:828 (2) - This slider feels awkward and doesn't really follow any specific beat in the music. I recommend doing this or making it one long slider. Preferred the first suggestion. Fixed.

[Hard]

Again; why didn't you follow the claps with hitsounds? Seems odd not to.
00:51:067 (2) - Soft slider-whistle sounds awkward. Please remove it.
00:53:819 (2) - Shouldn't this slider be reversed? The flow currently feels choppy and weird. Also, remove the soft slider-whistle from it.
All added/fixed.
lovhin456

Jacob wrote:

[lovhin's Easy]

00:05:104 (2) - Move this slider down a grid or two so that the middle is centered with 00:04:553 (1). It makes for a perfect blanket. Done
00:11:159 - I feel as if adding a note here would serve as a bridge for better flow from (2) to (4). It also makes the triangle pattern feels less empty. If you do add a note here, make sure to add a whistle to it. Done
00:17:214 (4) - Why not align this with the end of (2) to make a triangle pattern? It seems more intuitive than just placing objects in rather random places on the grid. Sorry but that would mess up the formation I have after this and also I think it's not that necessary to change
00:19:966 (2) - A whistle should be at the beginning of this slider in order to follow your hitsound pattern. Done
00:23:819 (3) - A whistle should be at the end of this slider. However, I feel as if this one is less necessary than the above case. Done
01:12:810 (3) - It would be a good idea to center this circle. Whenever mappers do this, it always feels neater to me. Sorry if my suggestions sound odd to you. I understand, done
I already gave Darcsol the file if I remember correctly lol
WVS
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add 'lovhin' to tags? since there's lovhin's diff.
i also see lovhin456, but maybe also add lovhin? (:

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