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B or lower rank: Just a fancy way to say "Song Failed"?

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Sup A Noob

JAKACHAN wrote:

xXSupanoobXx wrote:

I probably have the most recorded A's in the world right now.


Person I will not name would like to speak with you.
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Oh f-

I actually do wonder how many B's I have.

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SS - Lolwat ok
S - Lol ok
A - Ok
B - Ok
C - Ok
D - Hmm... Ok

No really, that's the amount of shit I give to ranks.
those
SS - My curse has been lifted!
S - ...no it hasn't, damn that 1x 100.
A - That didn't count.
Mercurial


I like the way this is going.
Sync

kriers wrote:

1x100 1x miss → Mukku style song failed
0x100 1x miss → Lewa style song failed
Anything else → song failed
1x100 FC → sucky
0x100 FC → pass
jianzii

tolliken wrote:

-Athena- wrote:

osu! is one of the hardest exams in the world.
Seriously a 92% and still just a B? We'll ace any other test.
Lol, that's true! :)

Also, why the hell can't i get something like, ta-da-dums, PLATINUM SS mark, in real life? :?:
You can, but you have to blind yourself so you can play on Hidden.

Also for me:

SS Rank - Jumping for joy
S Rank - Yeah I expected it.
A Rank - I'll work on it.
B Rank - Damn, I'm so bad at this.
C Rank - Oh god why didn't I just quit halfway through...
D Rank - I need to stop using No Fail.
Amefuri Koneko
If I get below 90% accuracy it's a fail for me, 91-93% not very satisfying too. Don't really care about rank and few combobreakers if accuracy is high.
Soly
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Laharl
Yeah. B-ranks in this case make you someone special. =D
Azure_Kite
I don't consider a lower rank a fail if the map is hard. Difficulty is a larger factor for me. Mainly due to the fact that 500 S ranks on easy/normal ranks won't help you improve and get higher ranks on harder songs.

Besides, that feeling of progress when you improve upon your old ranked score by any respectable margin is amazing.
Kanye West
anything below S is failing
JAKACHAN

Kanye West wrote:

anything below S is failing
You must fail a lot then \o/
Defacer
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JAKACHAN

Defacer wrote:

People who say anything below S is a fail are retarded in my eyes. Not only, exceptionally bad skilled also

It's like when a relatively new player says that anything below SS sux when he plays easy diffs+hardrock...

except 1-2 people in this thread all others are funny with their epic SStatements.
Correction there are more like 5-7 people in here that can talk about SS'ing!
Defacer
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Cyclohexane
You can't call people retarded because they think anything below S is failed; it's just a self-imposed challenge, and accuracy players try to reach that goal.

For, let's say, regular players, that don't really shine by their accuracy, they won't and shouldn't think that if they get A or lower they failed. I have a few C ranks that I'm very proud of (Barusa of Mikosu [Solo] for example). We just don't have the same goal. Some like to clear, others like to FC.
Eyenine

Gabe wrote:

Sincerely, I don't really care. I'm playing for fun, not for being Cookiezi.
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Well, wouldn't really care about accuracy and letter rank. Besides, nothing can satisfy me more than a rain of D's.

For insanes...
Silver SS - ... too memorized? (as if this happened to me even once)
Silver S - ... memorized?
SS - that's not me
S - that's not me either
A - somewhat easy for my left?
B - as expected
C w/o nofail - my right's too good for my left to go with
C w/ nofail - just a little more (I guess...)
D w/o nofail - well, at least I passed...
D w/ nofail - everybody expects this...
Winshley

Mr Color wrote:

We just don't have the same goal. Some like to clear, others like to FC.
^ This.

Additionally, certain beatmaps are pretty hard to SS. Such as ninja-spinner-spam maps like this, this, and this (gonna love old beatmaps, eh? :P), streams and jumpy maps (doesn't need any examples, as we can already see these kinds of maps a lot out there), and Marathon maps (imagining playing 30 minutes song being ruined by just a single 100 or below... :P)

As for myself, I just like having a bunch of those shiny SSes. :)
darkinas

Defacer wrote:

People who say anything below S is a fail are retarded in my eyes.
Hello sir, can i be your retard friend?..
People like you makes me not want to post in these forums
Shohei Ohtani

Defacer wrote:

People who say anything below S is a fail are retarded in my eyes.


Idunno, for me personally, I tried playing CtB without SuddenDeath, and I played an insane diff map, since people said it would make me better. I got a B, and I didn't really feel like I accomplished anything, I didn't feel like I "passed" in a sense. Now it just sits there going like "hey CDFA come play me again" and I'm like "screw you and your couch"

:>
Ekaru
In many American universities, 50+% of grades given out in many departments are A's. It makes sense for PE, of course, but not most classes. OSU is an American university, so seeing B's and lower as a fancy way to say "Song Failed" is pretty accurate.

...Okay, in all seriousness, for me it depends on the difficulty of the map I'm playing. If I get a B on a map that challenges me then I'm fine with it. I don't like C's and D's, though.
Defacer
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djjsixpack
I'll pass anything really as long as it isn't below 75% or so.

I am OK with a C depending on what the map is. Generally I don't like seeing anything below an A. Unless it's obvious I am not going to get it, I'll play it until I get an A or higher.
darkinas

Defacer wrote:

And why is that? Did I affect you physically or psychically? People express opinions and I fail to understand the logic behind them(like with the S) so I begin a conversation.
So you do not understand, as you say, the logic behind wanting to FC and get S and that gives the right to call those people retards? As you wish. I'm not gonna argue further since i don't like how you begin your coversation.
JAKACHAN

darkinas wrote:

So you do not understand, as you say, the logic behind wanting to FC and get S and that gives the right to call those people retards? As you wish. I'm not gonna argue further since i don't like how you begin your coversation.
I wouldn't really say they are retards because that's insulting, but from a moral point of view you usually want to set a goal like "Be able to pass Insanes" then "Be able to FC insanes" instead of just automatically saying "I'm going to S/SS everything" this is how people get stuck playing Normals their entire osu! career and then complain about not getting better.
Defacer
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Sup A Noob

JAKACHAN wrote:

I wouldn't really say they are retards because that's insulting, but from a moral point of view you usually want to set a goal like "Be able to pass Insanes" then "Be able to FC insanes" instead of just automatically saying "I'm going to S/SS everything" this is how people get stuck playing Normals their entire osu! career and then complain about not getting better.
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kriers

JAKACHAN wrote:

I wouldn't really say they are retards because that's insulting, but from a moral point of view you usually want to set a goal like "Be able to pass Insanes" then "Be able to FC insanes" instead of just automatically saying "I'm going to S/SS everything" this is how people get stuck playing Normals their entire osu! career and then complain about not getting better.
Considering how it took me 13 months to finally start SSing maps, I guess I must've done something right then, after all \:D/
silmarilen

Defacer wrote:

And why is that? Did I affect you physically or psychically? People express opinions and I fail to understand the logic behind them(like with the S) so I begin a conversation.

Or maybe I am stopping you because I am too stupid, naah in my eyes people who pretend to be uber pros saying that anything below S is a fail are the ones who are dumb, in fact people like you make me WANT to post in these forums.
you dont have to pretend to be an uber pro to think anything below S is a fail. i dont play maps like chipscape, big black, tag4, because i know i cant S them anyway, instead i stick to maps that i CAN S, which happen to be normal/semi hard insanes.

there arent only 2 types of people who want S, those who can S the really hardcore songs and those who stick with normals and hards. there are thousands of inasne maps in between them with multiple layers of difficulty.
-Athena-

Defacer wrote:

I wouldn't call anyone retard except if they already pissed me off.I understand it's not very good in a moral point of view, also in such a friendly community but I feel like having so wrong view of the game is just wrong and I need to fix it somehow. ''B or lower rank - song failed'' , I would fail to understand this logic.

But I do understand that you don't wanna begin conversations with me,in the end - I just raged a bit, nothing I can do to change people's opinions.

Also I respect JAKACHAN words because I can clearly see his view of the game, and that's the view that I think most of top players have and that's the right way for me( therefore I secretly hope of becoming a top player :D ).
I beg your pardon, but are you calling someone else' opinion wrong, especially when you fail to understand it? Opinions are by their very nature, subjective.

Though I agree with your point of view to a certain extent (JAKA put it the best though), you need to be more polite and less aggressive, try using more subtle ways to insult people and not outright flame and rage.
Azure_Kite
Personally I don't see the need to outright insult anyone here, subtle or not.
animez15

JAKACHAN wrote:

darkinas wrote:

So you do not understand, as you say, the logic behind wanting to FC and get S and that gives the right to call those people retards? As you wish. I'm not gonna argue further since i don't like how you begin your coversation.
I wouldn't really say they are retards because that's insulting, but from a moral point of view you usually want to set a goal like "Be able to pass Insanes" then "Be able to FC insanes" instead of just automatically saying "I'm going to S/SS everything" this is how people get stuck playing Normals their entire osu! career and then complain about not getting better.
agree!..
bagiaaa
A is unforgivable. Used to. But lately if i played insane diff and got an A because missing the note near the end of song, i just let it be
Valentiino
I'm a bit too perfectionist



I have 0x B's, C's & D's. I almost always play the map for so long that I get an S rank from it
kriers

Valentiino wrote:

I'm a bit too perfectionist



I have 0x B's, C's & D's. I almost always play the map for so long that I get an S rank from it
I should've done this from the start. Only problem is that I spent my first year in #Multiplayer, where it's impossible to avoid A's.
Pretty sure I've got at least 500 A's that are fixable with 1 pc. I just gotta find them.....
Valentiino

kriers wrote:

Valentiino wrote:

I'm a bit too perfectionist



I have 0x B's, C's & D's. I almost always play the map for so long that I get an S rank from it
I should've done this from the start. Only problem is that I spent my first year in #Multiplayer, where it's impossible to avoid A's.
Pretty sure I've got at least 500 A's that are fixable with 1 pc. I just gotta find them.....
And I know exactly what are the maps which I have A on. I know their current accuracies, how many misses I have on them etc

;__;

Makes me feel obsessed about this game or something, when I know exactly where I have failed at some point
haigawdy
SS - Okay, next map please.
S - OMG, another 1x100 FC
A - 1 stupid miss
Lower ranks don't exist for me.

IppE

Valentiino wrote:

Makes me feel obsessed about this game or something, when I know exactly where I have failed at some point
You're saying you're not obsessed with this game?
Valentiino

IppE wrote:

Valentiino wrote:

Makes me feel obsessed about this game or something, when I know exactly where I have failed at some point
You're saying you're not obsessed with this game?
Being obsessed and aiming for perfection for no good reason are two totally different things.
nikoniko777
In easy and most normal, yes I do consider B a fail. Hard I'm happy with B or above, Insane I'm just happy to pass :D (though to be fair, it is pretty much impossible to pass insane with anything below a C if you don't use easy, halftime or no fail)
G0r
Since this one was only a month old, I guess I might as well add my thoughts... I don't think that the grade actually matters. I don't really know why anyone would pay attention to it. Yes, I cared about it when I was playing to just pass songs, but if you are a good player, then you play to get an FC on every song, because that gets you the most score. An FC will normally get you at least an S. I think maybe you can get an A on it, if you get a really low accuracy FC. I think that a good player will tend to focus on combo, accuracy, and mods used, when considering if they have done well enough on a song.

That said, I will accept less than an A grade, and use it as a benchmarker, on songs that are so difficult that I am having a very hard time FCing them. Basically it's a way of reminding myself that I still need to work on that song. The same goes for an A, but if I had a great combo on an A, then I'd obviously do the Bs first, if I saw one. I have so many songs at this point that I just improve them as I see them on the list after I am finished with the new songs that I get.
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