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Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Jenny
Ohai!

Well, as the title says, I'd like to see a feature in osu! that allows to animate EVERY object in skins (also, add a toggle to options to enable/disable that in your skin ofc).

Why this?

Well, on the one hand I am a giantic fan of animated stuff (yes, also for skin elements, if not overdone), on the other it gives people a lot of new possibilities in skinning - imagine a blurring, glaring and size-variating sun as a cursor or structure-shifting approachcircles; of course, many people will find this "disturbing" since the majority already deletes all BGs, skins and vids (got'ya) but for people like me and skinners in general that'd be a totally nice feature which many people would appreciate.

To keep it short: Enable animationing (as it is for healthbar, followpoints etc.) for all skin-elements and add a toggle for that to options-tab in client.


What do you people think of that idea?
Would you appreciate (and use) it?
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-Athena-
1,414 posts
Joined June 2011
-Athena-


Especially since this feature isn't 100% necessary, you have my support though, I wouldn't mind if this got implemented, would freshen up skinning a bit, and also cause the appearence of tons of game crashing skins. Anyone making a skin like this should put up a fair warning in the thread, especially since you can't just "turn things off" in skins without manually handling them.
Aoko
1,053 posts
Joined June 2011
Aoko
It would make osu! more lag than usual then :<
But, support if there is toggle ofc.
Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Jenny
It's meant to have a toggle to "disable aditional animated game objects" in options-tab of client, similar to the "enable background video"-one.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
Please not.
Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Jenny

TheNutritiousGuy wrote:

Please not.
Any reason?
Since you would be able to disable it, there'd be no force on it.
Soaprman
1,392 posts
Joined January 2008
Soaprman
Not sure I'd want this forced on me in beatmaps too often but I could totally see myself using it for a personal skin sometime.

Having a separate "click" animation for the cursor would be nice too. I definitely have a motive for this one.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
I was at school, so didn't had time.
So why not.. Some skins are already animated, especially something like the HP-Bar.

As example, the Higurashi Skin. HP-Bar is animated.
Also my Skin got a animated Slider follow Circle. And a animated Menu-Back Image.

So it is not really neccessary to add this because this is more or less already possible.
Some things aren't ready to animated, if I'm not wrong. But mostly is possible to animated just with Pictures.
If I talk about the wrong topic, never mind then.
Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Jenny

Soaprman wrote:

Not sure I'd want this forced on me in beatmaps too often but I could totally see myself using it for a personal skin sometime.

Having a separate "click" animation for the cursor would be nice too. I definitely have a motive for this one.
As said, it'd have a toggle in options, so you could disable it for ALL MAPS and ALL SKINS if you want to.


TheNutritiousGuy wrote:

I was at school, so didn't had time.
So why not.. Some skins are already animated, especially something like the HP-Bar.

As example, the Higurashi Skin. HP-Bar is animated.
Also my Skin got a animated Slider follow Circle. And a animated Menu-Back Image.

So it is not really neccessary to add this because this is more or less already possible.
Some things aren't ready to animated, if I'm not wrong. But mostly is possible to animated just with Pictures.
If I talk about the wrong topic, never mind then.
Sliderfollowcircle.png, Sliderball.png, HP-bar and such are like always animated and that's totally common but what I want is the possibility of doing that for every item available in a skin.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,393 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan

Jenny wrote:

Sliderfollowcircle.png, Sliderball.png, HP-bar and such are like always animated and that's totally common but what I want is the possibility of doing that for every item available in a skin.
These things aren't everytime animated. I don't see (as example) that the HP-Bar of the default skin is animated.
Look what does this contains
Ninja Edit: At the End some people will remove the skin anyway, because it is annoying.
I am honest about this, because I also do this in rare case.
Dragvon
osu! Alumni
2,269 posts
Joined June 2009
Dragvon
I support menu elements to be animated. Gameplay ones are so-so because some could disrupt the gameplay itself, plus a little more stress on low-end pcs adding up with the storyboard load. Also, hitcircle do not stay for long time in screen, so animating would either use a little number of frames or barely noticeable. Approach circle is obviously a no-no.

Spinner background? Yeah. Circle? Maybe...
Pause and fail screen would be lovely too.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
..more lag and distractions? Let's just hope nobody's ever going to use an animated skin as default in a ranked beatmap.

and I don't see how it could be applied to EVERY single skinable element. That's be awful.

The only skinable elements that I'd see work well would be combo burst, count, menu buttons, pause buttons, play skip, play warning, ranks (+ any other ranking element) and section fail/pass.
CXu
osu! Alumni
3,558 posts
Joined March 2009
CXu
Shapeshifting hitcircle changing from a circle to a triangle to a square and back to a circle!
YES!
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest

CXu wrote:

Shapeshifting hitcircle changing from a circle to a triangle to a square and back to a circle!
YES!
wat lol
boat
2,369 posts
Joined February 2010
boat

Soaprman wrote:

Not sure I'd want this forced on me in beatmaps too often but I could totally see myself using it for a personal skin sometime.

theowest wrote:

..more lag and distractions? Let's just hope nobody's ever going to use an animated skin as default in a ranked beatmap.

Jenny wrote:

It's meant to have a toggle to "disable aditional animated game objects" in options-tab of client, similar to the "enable background video"-one.
Conclusion? Not necessarily.

I approve of this, nonetheless.
Rena-chan
Rena-chan
I totally approve of this !

Every skinning/mapping/storyboarding feature idea out there can (and most likely will, if implemented) be potentially abused anyway, and animating more game elements can most definitely be used in awesome ways.
Jesss
814 posts
Joined November 2008
Jesss
I freaking support this!! *¬* waiting long time for this kind of request!
Sakura
osu! Alumni
7,979 posts
Joined March 2010
Sakura

Rena-chan wrote:

Every skinning/mapping/storyboarding feature idea out there can (and most likely will, if implemented) be potentially abused anyway, and animating more game elements can most definitely be used in awesome ways.
We could always put some rule that prevents abuse by mappers, that way mappers would be restricted, but skinners would be free to use them for their own :)
Soaprman
1,392 posts
Joined January 2008
Soaprman

Jenny wrote:

Soaprman wrote:

Not sure I'd want this forced on me in beatmaps too often but I could totally see myself using it for a personal skin sometime.

Having a separate "click" animation for the cursor would be nice too. I definitely have a motive for this one.
As said, it'd have a toggle in options, so you could disable it for ALL MAPS and ALL SKINS if you want to.
Actually, even though I said what I said, I don't think a toggle for this would be necessary, nor would be a rule prohibiting it. The modding process can catch any instances done in poor taste and I can just not play the few maps that slip through.

And I do have at least one per-map skin idea that would benefit from this.
Suimya
6,374 posts
Joined February 2011
Suimya
o.o Jenny is full of surprises ~

and I really support this idea ~
Miya
2,690 posts
Joined June 2011
Miya
Animated skin will be good. But it will cause lag in some of computer >.<
Anyway, support :)
Yuzeyun
7,622 posts
Joined September 2010
Yuzeyun
I approve of this, if animations can be added to the other modes too it's be great ! (More Taiko-circles frames, being limited to 2 wasn't very good when I tried to make a Yin-Yang orb note in taiko mode.)
YodaSnipe
1,378 posts
Joined February 2011
YodaSnipe

Sakura wrote:

Rena-chan wrote:

Every skinning/mapping/storyboarding feature idea out there can (and most likely will, if implemented) be potentially abused anyway, and animating more game elements can most definitely be used in awesome ways.
We could always put some rule that prevents abuse by mappers, that way mappers would be restricted, but skinners would be free to use them for their own :)
Seriously you guys do a GREAT job of preventing horrible skins, distracting BGs, wtf SBs, and -_- maps. You can totally prevent abuse for completely animatable skins. [/sarcasm]
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin

YodaSnipe wrote:

Seriously you guys do a GREAT job of preventing horrible skins, distracting BGs, wtf SBs, and -_- maps. You can totally prevent abuse for completely animatable skins. [/sarcasm]
map specific skins really need to go away.
YodaSnipe
1,378 posts
Joined February 2011
YodaSnipe

ziin wrote:

map specific skins really need to go away.
*waves goodbye to map specific skins*
Sonez_old
Sonez_old

ziin wrote:

map specific skins really need to go away.
worst part of playing multiplayer
Winshley
osu! Alumni
2,384 posts
Joined May 2011
Winshley
Animated hit lighting would be cool. Imagine the burst effect of the hit lighting after hitting notes, or seeing it in action during Kiai time with Hidden mod. 8-)
YodaSnipe
1,378 posts
Joined February 2011
YodaSnipe

Winshley wrote:

Animated hit lighting would be cool. Imagine the burst effect of the hit lighting after hitting notes, or seeing it in action during Kiai time with Hidden mod. 8-)
notsureifserious
Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Topic Starter
Jenny
Why not spend your newly given SP?~ <3
Suimya
6,374 posts
Joined February 2011
Suimya
sure :3 since i liked this ~
KyRo_old
KyRo_old
I appreciate and support that idea.
I have a lot of stuff in my own skin I would love to animate with flashouts and stuff but since they can't get animated they'll have to stay boring.
+1
Nikai
22 posts
Joined December 2010
Nikai
Yes.

+9
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3
Ermm... As much as I would love this im gonna have to say no just because whats already available thats animatable is resource heavy and a big clutter. If there was another method to make this possible than whats already being used then hell yea but as it is currently I'm afraid that no one would use it if available due to the performance hit.

Partly reason why I never distributed the animated burst elements I did.

(Plus a big influx TS posts about why osu runs like shit or why they have an error about lack of Vram)
jemhuntr
933 posts
Joined February 2012
jemhuntr
What do you mean by resource heavy/big clutter? Too much files on the skin folder? Too slow performance?
There's gonna be a toggle whether you would use it or not, so performance is not a problem. There could also be an option to disable the unnecessary animations to speed up the performance and at the same time keeping a few animations.
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3

JeMhUnTeR wrote:

What do you mean by resource heavy/big clutter? Too much files on the skin folder? Too slow performance?
There's gonna be a toggle whether you would use it or not, so performance is not a problem. There could also be an option to disable the unnecessary animations to speed up the performance and at the same time keeping a few animations.
Its just a fat pig, Using mass amounts of pngs is not the way to go for animations in realtime sure it would be fine if it was setup the way the HP bar is at 1 frame a second. If I was in the position to to make the choice I'd have to draw the line at burst's since it really only benefits those who have the hardware to throw at it. Most users here are going to school using laptops n' such so all I see coming from it are problems.

As for the performance hit, Its frame drop and micro stutters along with the storyboard and shaders helping it... Its really only enjoyable with low end enabled with an additional 100 something megs added onto Vram. With limiters on im scraping 59 (HD 6950) so just being at that Id hate to see what it would be like with all elements the way the bursts are.

As for the clutter... You tell me.
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deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

RBRat3 wrote:

As for the clutter... You tell me.
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i think have 63 .png's for one skin element is a bit overkill :p
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