All suggestions. Mostly a bit of perfectionism, as it is very well done overall

[Easy]
Maybe the circle size is too small for an easy.
Two hitcircles in one spot is hard to understand for a novice. (based on my own experience)
it's quite rhythmically complex for a beginner as well.
Good structure, but it's a bit more of a Easy+ without getting into Normal territory

[lolcubes' Normal]
00:38:901 (1) - This spinner I'd feel it a bit better like a break; hard to decide
02:52:932 (4) - I know you can make this slider look better.
03:08:956 (2,3,4,5) - You might like making these following the vocals.

[Haku's Hard]
Small hitcircles. Annoying to me, a reason I skip maps, but it's mostly a personal issue to me.
Patterns in this one, while fine, are a bit too "square" so to speak, not as natural as the other difficulties. Mapping style, I guess.
A bit of overmapping, looks fine due to the song flow mostly
00:49:665 (5,1,2) - is a bit cramped
00:53:602 (3,4,5,6) - A bit confusing
02:52:745 (6,7) - Emphasis in vocals, follows drums.
02:59:581 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - A bit too simple of a pattern.
I didn't like this map for playing it myself. Tastes.
A few sections do not do justice to the Kiai.

[Insane]
00:56:790 (6) - This feels slightly unneccesary but I fear it'll break the pattern if you remove it. Hitsounds fix this.
00:58:102 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - A bit too much beat for this part. Hitsounds fix this.
01:59:495 (3) - Instead of returning to (2) you could make it flow up and as a circle.
02:56:768 (2,3,4) - These work, but they don't look pretty in my opinion, you can very likely enhance their positions. I compare to the following patterns such as 03:00:143 (3,4,5,6)

star on your way.

Agkaemon wrote:

All suggestions. Mostly a bit of perfectionism, as it is very well done overall
[Insane]
00:56:790 (6) - This feels slightly unneccesary but I fear it'll break the pattern if you remove it. Hitsounds fix this.
00:58:102 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - A bit too much beat for this part. Hitsounds fix this.
so these aren't a problem because of the hitsounds? I'm following the bass here in any case.
01:59:495 (3) - Instead of returning to (2) you could make it flow up and as a circle. not sure what you mean here, so I'll just move 1
02:56:768 (2,3,4) - These work, but they don't look pretty in my opinion, you can very likely enhance their positions. I compare to the following patterns such as 03:00:143 (3,4,5,6)changed the order a bit to make mah star

done, thanks.

Agkaemon wrote:

All suggestions. Mostly a bit of perfectionism, as it is very well done overall

[Haku's Hard]
Small hitcircles. Annoying to me, a reason I skip maps, but it's mostly a personal issue to me.

Even more annoying, Normal circle are consindered xs.....xsmalll.
Those circle aren't small.

Patterns in this one, while fine, are a bit too "square" so to speak, not as natural as the other difficulties. Mapping style, I guess.

Maybe not, it's more circular than squary, why? just look the 75% of the map.

00:49:665 (5,1,2) - is a bit cramped

(2) is stacked under (5), anyway, now the graphic should be corrected

00:53:602 (3,4,5,6) - A bit confusing

Why? can say it's confusing if you play it with hidden because of the stacks. Moreoverly, just no.

02:52:745 (6,7) - Emphasis in vocals, follows drums.

Just tried something different from the last one.
02:59:581 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - A bit too simple of a pattern.
It doesn't mean it's unusable

I didn't like this map for playing it myself. Tastes.
A few sections do not do justice to the Kiai.

That mod wasn't even a bit useful. Tastes.
Ah, at least try to say that peppy was dumb just adding more Circle Sizes, because i started thinking people hate Normal(5) and Small(6) Circle and just like Large(4) and XtraLarge(3), making the option to use different circle sizes unuseful.


Ah, anyway. There were some bad stacking i corrected

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

Agkaemon wrote:

[lolcubes' Normal]
00:38:901 (1) - This spinner I'd feel it a bit better like a break; hard to decide
02:52:932 (4) - I know you can make this slider look better.
03:08:956 (2,3,4,5) - You might like making these following the vocals.

Thanks for the suggestions but no change. I don't like that break because it feels kinda empty. The slider, well I really don't know how exactly can I make it look better than it already is (symmetric curve). I can't follow the vocals there because it would be too hard for a normal. :\

Sorry ziin, that it took me this long to check this out, I almost forgot about it heh.

Hp - 1

Losing with just about 86-88 % did mean that XD

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

Sorry for the delay ~

General :

1. Tags :
   1. You have added "to aru" in the tags, however if someone search "to aru majutsu no index" in the game, he will not find your map. You shall add "majutsu no index" after "to aru" then (In all difficulties of course)
   2. Why "rimless" is in the tags, it's already in the title :/

Easy :

1. Consider using Circle Size 3, Normal use CS3 and this diff CS4, It's kinda weird :/
2. About the other map settings, they are the same as in Normal and they are kinda high for an Easy. I'm fine with AR4, but you should reduce the OD and the HPdrain.
3. 00:28:214 - This spot needs a note because of the heavy note, besides you did it at 00:32:714 (2), so for consistency you have to something here.
4. 00:54:352 (4) - This slider is very confusing (only 1/2 after the previous slider and it's kinda sudden here), there is no actual reason to do this. Consider only mapping this beat 00:54:727.
5. 01:41:040 (3,1) - Intervert the new combo, (3) starts on a downbeat and it's where the vocals starts

Haku's Hard :

1. I don't really like the circle size here, but it's your choice.
2. 00:38:901 (5) - You have silenced this circle, which is unrankable (because it's too confusing, etc.). Besides, there is no actual reson to have a note here, maybe to follow the vocals however this note is unexpected here and I strongly recommand you to remove it.
3. 00:45:821 (6) - I understand why you have added this circle here, but I don't really like this kind of patterns, besides the pattern is at the bottom of the screen which is kinda uncomforable to play :/
   I suggest you to remove this circle. It would be more playable and pleasant.

Insane :

1. 02:56:206 to 03:05:206 - I'm ok with the previous jumps, but here the jumps are too big for a part which is slow !
2. 03:08:018 (1) - In my opinion, 0.75x ~ 0.80x flows better.
3. 03:16:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - his kind of patterns are really confusing when they are consecutive like this, when I testplayed it I was like "o.o where should I click now". consider rearranging this pattern or making it more readable please.
4. 03:34:456 (7) - A new combo is missing here ~

Well, the map is not bad at all, even if I'm not a big fan of the jumps in Insane :3 Good job. (And the SB is pretty nice :33).

KuraiPettan wrote:

General :

1. Tags :
   1. You have added "to aru" in the tags, however if someone search "to aru majutsu no index" in the game, he will not find your map. You shall add "majutsu no index" after "to aru" then (In all difficulties of course)
   2. Why "rimless" is in the tags, it's already in the title :/

nobody's going to type out "to aru majutsu no index". I suppose it doesn't hurt to add it though. "rimless world" is the title of the song (fuchinashi is rimless or something like that, and sekai is world).


Easy :

1. Consider using Circle Size 3, Normal use CS3 and this diff CS4, It's kinda weird :/
2. About the other map settings, they are the same as in Normal and they are kinda high for an Easy. I'm fine with AR4, but you should reduce the OD and the HPdrain. I wanted to let easy mod not be so much of a joke.
3. 00:28:214 - This spot needs a note because of the heavy note, besides you did it at 00:32:714 (2), so for consistency you have to something here. yep
4. 00:54:352 (4) - This slider is very confusing (only 1/2 after the previous slider and it's kinda sudden here), there is no actual reason to do this. Consider only mapping this beat 00:54:727. changed to a slider
5. 01:41:040 (3,1) - Intervert the new combo, (3) starts on a downbeat and it's where the vocals starts standardized the combos at that part. I had a stupid reason for doing it before.

also changed around some stacks.

Insane :

1. 02:56:206 to 03:05:206 - I'm ok with the previous jumps, but here the jumps are too big for a part which is slow ! I exaggerated the jumps here because I really dislike when a "slow" part gets its spacing cut in half. This section is supposed to be intense. It's the transitional bridge into the last chorus and is supposed to be filled with emotion, and I tried to map that emotion with jumps. If you lessen the jumps it loses some of that feeling, and some of the difficulty. As far as I know, Border of Death is the only other map that does this, and while I didn't like the rhythms associated with it, I did like the feeling of the jumps there, which is what I'm trying to achieve here. I also don't think it's ridiculously hard, just something osu! is not used to. 4.0x may seem like a lot, but those are on sliders which don't break combo if you miss,
2. 03:08:018 (1) - In my opinion, 0.75x ~ 0.80x flows better. It's so it's the same length as a 1/2 slider. Confusing maybe, but it's insane.
3. 03:16:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - his kind of patterns are really confusing when they are consecutive like this, when I testplayed it I was like "o.o where should I click now". consider rearranging this pattern or making it more readable please. really? I thought this was pretty tame in comparison to the usual stack stack stack I see all the time. I'm going to leave it, because at least one person who modded it said they really liked it, and it is supposed to be insane (even though it's more of a hard+).
4. 03:34:456 (7) - A new combo is missing here ~ It's the same as the previous sections

Fixed some things on easy, left insane alone. Thanks!

I'll fix haku's tags when he comments.

Feel free to make any changes you deem necessary to my diff btw.
Also good luck!

KuraiPettan wrote:

[b]Haku's Hard :

1. I don't really like the circle size here, but it's your choice.
2. 00:38:901 (5) - You have silenced this circle, which is unrankable (because it's too confusing, etc.). Besides, there is no actual reson to have a note here, maybe to follow the vocals however this note is unexpected here and I strongly recommand you to remove it.
   I'm actually following a mix of drums and vocal (this represent the hitsound I inserted, the snap), anyway the volume of al section before the spinner is 30% now)
3. 00:45:821 (6) - I understand why you have added this circle here, but I don't really like this kind of patterns, besides the pattern is at the bottom of the screen which is kinda uncomforable to play :/
   I suggest you to remove this circle. It would be more playable and pleasant.
   Song-wise it is a 1/3 note, and making a slider end in 1/3 isn't a good idea, too just deleting it is even worser ( as the slider will and on nothing ) So the kinda used streamy note seemed the best idea, as the stream like this will follow the voice "trail", so, not deleting it

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

All done. Surprise surprise when I can't give kd.

from #modreqs,

Its too perfect, through some more spacing issues and some inappropriate hitsounds and hitobjects and you will be good to go.

~All suggestions~

Easy

1. 01:04:290 (2,1) - not fan of note following slider so soon in easy.. maybe follow vocal instead? Edit: I meant to suggest combining both into one slider that follows vocal sorry~
2. 01:37:290 (1) - NC? and remove NC on 01:38:040 (3)
3. 02:05:870 (2,3) - same as above
4. 02:28:932 - 02:38:870 - a bit tricky rhythm here
5. 03:24:706 (2) - 1/2 later on timeline and respace

lolcubes' Normal

• ok cool

Haku's Hard

1. I'm not a fan of this circle size on hard.. it's smaller than insane too
2. this difficulty feels really cramped, it's harder for less experienced players to see small differences in spacing in order to tell rhythm apart
3. stacking the triplets or something would make them a lot easier to read
4. 00:45:821 (6,7,8,9,10) - I failed here on first playthrough since the spacing looked so similar to previous part.. and rhythm doesn't make sense to me
5. 02:44:870 (1,2,3) - stack?

Insane

1. 00:53:415 (2,3 / 4,5) - this is stretching it a bit, reduce spacing? to 2.0 atleast
2. 00:56:415 (4,5,6,7) - ^, this part is harder than the rest of your map aside from the end
3. 02:00:245 (8,1,2,3,4) - ^
4. 02:03:995 (4,5,6,7) - I just don't like how this plays
5. 02:43:370 (4,1) - this jump didn't feel right to me
6. 02:56:206 - 03:04:643 - spacing change here doesn't feel right on quiet section of song

some inconsistencies made it really hard for me to read first playthrough Edit: I didn't really mention the inconsistencies, those were just the parts that stood out for me when I did the 1st playthrough and just felt uncomfortable playing


cool map~
hope my mod helps~

silklash wrote:

~All suggestions~

Easy

1. 01:04:290 (2,1) - not fan of note following slider so soon in easy.. maybe follow vocal instead? why would the time matter?
2. 01:37:290 (1) - NC? and remove NC on 01:38:040 (3)
3. 02:05:870 (2,3) - same as above
4. 02:28:932 - 02:38:870 - a bit tricky rhythm here remapped
5. 03:24:706 (2) - 1/2 later on timeline and respace I wanted the finishes here

Insane

1. 00:53:415 (2,3 / 4,5) - this is stretching it a bit, reduce spacing? to 2.0 atleast
2. 00:56:415 (4,5,6,7) - ^, this part is harder than the rest of your map aside from the end
3. 02:00:245 (8,1,2,3,4) - ^
4. 02:03:995 (4,5,6,7) - I just don't like how this plays
5. 02:43:370 (4,1) - this jump didn't feel right to me fixed
6. 02:56:206 - 03:04:643 - spacing change here doesn't feel right on quiet section of song commented on this earlier

some inconsistencies made it really hard for me to read first playthrough

At least you consistently complained about the inconsistent jumps consistently placed in the chorus.
2 things changed.

1-2 of these minor inconsistencies that you mentioned would be nice. As far as I know every new combo was consistent with the previous part, or deliberate. All the hitsounds are perfect. All the jumps are deliberate and consistent, not quite all the same in severity, but still consistent. The spacing is 1.0 most of the time, except on a theme change. The music follows the emphasized notes in the lyrics, drums or bass line. The placement of notes is completely whimsical, though I try to make some semblance of a pattern. I just value everything else over the x and y configuration of the map.

'sup ziin

[General]
You may want to full submit. I didn't get the Normal on a fresh download.

[Storyboard]
Some of the images you chose to use vary so much stylistically that it's very jarring to see as they pass by. Mainly looking at d, q, and r. Some of the images look really aliased blown up to full screen too.

[Easy]
00:41:040 (1) - Eew, whistle on slider slide. There are others too. I just don't like them since whenever they try to actually accent something in the music, it just sounds like static instead.
00:42:540 (1) - This new combo really needed? (both these apply to copy/paste later on)
01:04:290 (2) - The transition from the soft slider slides to the normal slider slide here sounds kinda eh.
02:52:182 (2) - I know you can see the slider after the hit burst is gone, but it just kind of looks like tacky placement the way it is now.
03:08:018 (1) - Really nice effect here. Only thing that bugged me was the spacing from the 2 -> this. Felt a little too close.

[Normal]
Kind of the same thing going on with the soft and normal slider slides changing around. I don't know if it's intentional, but it sounds kind of weird to me. Same with a couple soft whistle slider slides, but yeah. biasbiasbias
02:52:557 (2) - Yeah, it's distance snapped, but it still feels a little close. Maybe scoot it out to about 1.2x?

[Hard]
Why is stack leniency so low? Stuff like 01:20:040 (1,2) - isn't stacking correctly.
Same commentary on soft whistle slider slides bluh
00:45:821 (6) - Is this rhythms really necessary?
02:01:557 (3) - This slider feels awkward in the overall feel of the rhythms you have set up here.
02:28:370 (2,1) - Spacing is a little dodgy here. There was something similar earlier in the map, but it didn't bug me as much as this one did. Eh.
02:52:745 (6,7) - I'm not really sure what you're trying to follow in the music here.
03:25:456 (1,2) - That's just cruel to place so far into a slow song like this.

[Insane]
Eh, I'd mostly be bitching about the sliderslide whistles. q:
Some of the spacing felt kinda wonky since the jumps didn't feel very natural to me. This usually occurred on the 1/2 rhythms such as 03:29:393 (5,1) - where there wasn't an easily evident reason behind it beyond just an instrument change or something, though 00:59:602 (1,2,3) - was a little tricky too. It ended up me watching the circles for the rhythms instead of kicking back and enjoying the music and map.

Garven wrote:

'sup ziin

[General]
You may want to full submit. I didn't get the Normal on a fresh download. argh

[Storyboard]
Some of the images you chose to use vary so much stylistically that it's very jarring to see as they pass by. Mainly looking at d, q, and r. Some of the images look really aliased blown up to full screen too.
Map was made when 800x600 was max SB size. Technically it still is. surprising though to see that there's a lot of new stuff, so I'm going to be replacing the SB images in the near future.

[Easy]
00:41:040 (1) - Eew, whistle on slider slide. There are others too. I just don't like them since whenever they try to actually accent something in the music, it just sounds like static instead.
00:42:540 (1) - This new combo really needed? (both these apply to copy/paste later on) no, but is any new combo ever needed? 1st maps the first part, 2nd maps the echo by backup voices. I did this in insane, wanted to do something similar here.
01:04:290 (2) - The transition from the soft slider slides to the normal slider slide here sounds kinda eh.
02:52:182 (2) - I know you can see the slider after the hit burst is gone, but it just kind of looks like tacky placement the way it is now. I love easy fixes like this
03:08:018 (1) - Really nice effect here. Only thing that bugged me was the spacing from the 2 -> this. Felt a little too close. I swear this is an osu bug. It is too close.

sliders have never bothered me so I'm going to leave them.

[Insane]
Some of the spacing felt kinda wonky since the jumps didn't feel very natural to me. This usually occurred on the 1/2 rhythms such as 03:29:393 (5,1) - where there wasn't an easily evident reason behind it beyond just an instrument change or something, though 00:59:602 (1,2,3) - was a little tricky too. It ended up me watching the circles for the rhythms instead of kicking back and enjoying the music and map. It's not your normal jump map. I threw in jumps to accent notes, and you'll note there's very few jumpstreams like you'll find in a lot of siriru style maps (just one per kiai rather than every 4th measure). All the jumps are natural for me, mostly because my style is different and stepmania-based.

kd when I'm done with the SB.

I generally bitch about really short combos since it screws with the HP drain metric and over-simplifies passing a map. I'll wait for the changes, then.

I've always hated how easy it is to fail in some maps.

silklash wrote:

~All suggestions~

Haku's Hard

1. I'm not a fan of this circle size on hard.. it's smaller than insane too It's an hard, and won't change CS
2. this difficulty feels really cramped, it's harder for less experienced players to see small differences in spacing in order to tell rhythm apart There is a contradiction, as Hard isn't meant to be played by players with no experience
3. stacking the triplets or something would make them a lot easier to read while killing almost all the "walking" effect and the graphic i want to give? hell no.
4. 00:45:821 (6,7,8,9,10) - I failed here on first playthrough since the spacing looked so similar to previous part.. and rhythm doesn't make sense to me Haku's rhythmn explanation funtime! : 00:45:821 (6) It's a VOICE note (Ta), 00:45:915 (7) Other than the "me" it fall a bass in the start and the faint cymbal at the end,00:46:477 (8,9,10) it follow the voice "trail", changed with a slider anyway
5. 02:44:870 (1,2,3) - stack? Doesn't if follow the music better like this? Chi(1)-ga(2,3)

Why is stack leniency so low? Stuff like 01:20:040 (1,2) - isn't stacking correctly. Notes like this aren't meant to stack anyway, and even stacking won't help much (the fact the hitburst cover it it's default skin related moreover). I'll manually stack if it's unavoidable(say where)
Same commentary on soft whistle slider slides bluh It happen i can't hear them as the volume of hitsounds is lower than music and the is hearable only with high volume on hitsounds and lower song volume
00:45:821 (6) - Is this rhythms really necessary? hear it better, the "tame ni" start here, or better, start a bit before on 1/3
02:01:557 (3) - This slider feels awkward in the overall feel of the rhythms you have set up here. more because you can't hear 02:01:182 (2,3,4,5) rhythmn better and see how it's following the snaps
02:28:370 (2,1) - Spacing is a little dodgy here. There was something similar earlier in the map, but it didn't bug me as much as this one did. Eh. Early clicker or impatient player, in 02:27:620 (1,2,1) you couldn't see it was following the bass
02:52:745 (6,7) - I'm not really sure what you're trying to follow in the music here. the end of 6 have a snap, hear better
03:25:456 (1,2) - That's just cruel to place so far into a slow song like this. Sense-having antijump have sense, There is a false stop in the instrumental.

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

Alright I think we're all set. Make sure to redownload or SB will look terribad.

A couple comments for Haku since it might be a bit before I can do a recheck:

Move stacking to the default setting. If the notes are stacking, then they should be stacking. Those notes that I pointed out should have stacked normally, thus why I mentioned them. It didn't look like they were there for any sort of specific pattern (usually this is done for patterns that overlap - not just lone notes that are stacked) that these were tailored for, so yes, they do need to be stacked.

As for the slider whistles (and the slider track) thing, I could hear them while playing. That's why I point them out. People do play with headphones, and it's much easier to tell that they are there. It's not as important, but just saying "I can't hear them, it's fine" means that you didn't even intend to put those hitsounds there, thus making me think they are there more as a mistake rather than intentionally put there.

The thing i said was connected because i have university exams now and I can't obviously lose much time to search for almost invisible error, and probably because the headphones i had wheren't so good at that time (the headphone i had before did broke, so I had to go with some old one). Seeing if I can find them.

notes meant to stack are 1/2 and 1/4. There are pretty much MANY times that i see unwanted stacks in the map. So if Any 1/2 note isn't stacked, i'll stack it.

Manually Stacked:
00:57:352 (7,8) -
01:20:040 (1,2) -
02:07:370 (1,2) -
02:10:932 (4,5) -
03:04:268 (6,7) -

for soft whistle sliderslide i searched al lines like
448,108,167870,2,2,B|504:108,2,54.9999983608723,8|0|0
(like 5 or 6 lines found totally...)

It's easier to hear them if their used constantly especially in parts when the song is at low volume. They appeared to be inserted rarely, really, so I didn't notice them. The reason is pretty much this.

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

By the way, I can hear them; they don't bother me. Perhaps the only unintended ones were the normal sliderslide in easy, but to fix that I have to either skin it or add a new timing section 7 ms after the previous one. And I don't particularly want to do that because I've already barcoded the map which I don't like doing, and it doesn't bother me.

When I made the map I also didn't want to use any skin or combo colors so that it would be completely customizable. So if you really hate the way the sliderslides/whistles sound, and there aren't any situations where you think it works, perhaps you should skin them to something you do like?

Finally for the stacking issue: usually I don't care, but the default stack limit is just enormous. I don't particularly think that 1/1 notes should be stacked either, however at this bpm, 0.5 stacks 1/1 notes but not 5/4 notes. 0.4 stacks 1/2 notes but not 1/1 notes.

So uh, redownloading provided me with only the Easy and Hard now. Two more uploads and you'll have no more maps left.

For the sound thing, I'd just rather make sure that the mappers know that they are there in case they actually -do- care about such things.

[Hard]
00:57:352 (7,8) - Mm, normally when you manually stack, you stack them down and to the right one grid 5. You can keep it the way it is now, but it looks kind of weird compared to the default game mechanics. The other ones looked okay though, I guess it was just this first one that looked awkward.


00:45:821 (6) - Is this rhythms really necessary? hear it better, the "tame ni" start here, or better, start a bit before on 1/3
Sure, it's in the song, but just think in the more contextual sense of this being a Hard difficulty. I think this was the only instance of having the 1/4 rhythms between sliders as opposed to using them to begin a new set of rhythms (or before a slider).

02:01:557 (3) - This slider feels awkward in the overall feel of the rhythms you have set up here. more because you can't hear 02:01:182 (2,3,4,5) rhythmn better and see how it's following the snaps
Try accenting rhythm changes with hit sounding instead of just saying "you're not listening hard enough" over and over again. You want these transitions to be able to be smooth without having to pay attention to every single instrument in the song, and I'm just pointing out spots where it was awkward.

02:52:745 (6,7) - I'm not really sure what you're trying to follow in the music here. the end of 6 have a snap, hear better
Hear better? Try comparing the rhythms that you used in the previous two instances that this occurred in the song. What you used prior worked fine - this one just felt awkward and I ended up watching for approach circles instead of playing a relaxing map.

03:25:456 (1,2) - That's just cruel to place so far into a slow song like this. Sense-having antijump have sense, There is a false stop in the instrumental.
Um, it's exactly the same as the previous two chorus'. I'm more pointing out a consistency thing here.

Anyway, Haku, don't worry about fixing quickly or anything. Concentrate on your studies. It's not like the map is going to disappear if you don't address mods immediately. ...though considering your activity level in the New Rules forum, it makes me wonder.

ziin: the SB update looks much nicer now - it's just that you're losing difficulties with each upload, haha.

for the manual stacks: The good thing of them is that you choose the direction and how to stack them ( if the one over or the one under ) and it's pretty much better on the graphic side as you do it to not screw up your constant naziing on map ( I usually nazi my map a real bit )

I used 1/6 for the 00:45:352 (5,6,7) part (i guess i'll have to repeat it 1 hundred times to other modder than :S)

I arleady had accented 02:01:182 (2,3,4,5) and... you have the snap hitsound right? ( didn't remember to add a snap at (3) end )

02:52:745 (6) hadn't a snap in the end too, gomen for that.

03:25:456 (1,2) rotated and mirrored now.

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

okay haku, you're not on, so I'm going to put my foot down on a few things. If you really think they are better the old way we can always revert them.
these are 4 things I changed in your diff without your permission (you weren't on when I was making the changes).
00:45:352 (5) - made this snap to 1/2. The lyrics here are stupid, but this creates a very nice syncopated rhythm which I urge you to keep since you've had such problems with modders so far.
00:54:352 (5) - added clap to first part
01:01:290 (1) - nazi this to be straighter with (3)
01:50:682 (4) - ^
01:51:245 (1) - stacked it

I do think 00:45:352 (5) is better if following the voice... why? it feel strange ending on nowhere and before when it should end... and well "it's playable and won't feel strange" should be an actual decent reason...

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

I've already explained that this 1/6 is stupid, especially to map in osu. It sounds much better to me to be on the 1/2. Having a 1/6 looks like an error, sounds like an error, and doesn't make any sense to me, especially when "ta" is the beginning of a note, not the end of a note. Adding a 1/6 on it of course makes the tick go on the 1/2, so you're already including that small tick in there which makes it even feel more like an error. The slider tick is hidden as well, and the spacing looks like it's off if the player doesn't intuitively think the slider is 1/6. The 1/2 would be mapping the end of the bass note, which of course fits perfectly since slider ends have the unique ability to map something or map nothing at all considering the player never has to hit them. Finally the lyrics may be 1/6, but the strings are not, they are directly on the 1/2, the way the song was most likely written. I'm inclined to believe that IKU is singing these notes tenuto, which has a tendency to slow down, especially because the're one 1/2 notes.

"It's playable" should never be an excuse when trying to justify something. The "won't feel strange" is completely up to taste, and I guarantee you most people will think that the notes are supposed to be on the 1/2. They may notice it's early after playing it but not before.

whatever, you don't care what I think so it's updated.

Directly changed the pattern in another way that don't need 1/6 snap ( the 1/6 note were 6ms before.... and there really was a sound similiar to a bell there...)

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

Alright, looks like everything is in order now. Here goes!

[Insane]
00:41:040 (1) - Missing new combo.
01:48:620 (1) - Missing new combo.
03:16:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't see any reason for the triplets to go back and forth? it's not like there's a bigger timing distance between 1,3 than 3,2 and so on, and don't seem to go with the music either.

[Haku's Hard]
02:52:745 (6) - Feels like it should start at: 02:52:995 instead.
02:53:495 (7) - Feels like it should start at: 02:53:870 instead.
02:54:338 (1) - Spinner can be removed if you fix the above, tho they need to be fixed as it follows the music better.

[Easy]
Feels a bit fast for a song that is pretty calm. Try a slower slider speed (probably around 0.7)
02:34:182 (2) - Too fast after the slider, and can't be seen clearly either, plus i never liked white > red (or viceversa) rythms for an easy as they are a bit complex for new players, should remove this note.
03:19:081 (3) - It could be problematic that the hitburst at this slider end isnt gone by the time the player has to hit the slider start, and easy shouldn't have any blind notes.
03:24:706 (2) - Another note too fast for an easy.
I dunno, the patterns look a bit too complex for an Easy map, but i'd be writing a wall of text if i were to point out each, so i'll mostly be happy if you avoid stacking double notes.

Sakura Hana wrote:

[Insane]
00:41:040 (1) - Missing new combo.
01:48:620 (1) - Missing new combo. Argh spinners
03:16:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I don't see any reason for the triplets to go back and forth? it's not like there's a bigger timing distance between 1,3 than 3,2 and so on, and don't seem to go with the music either.
I've had comments that it's awesome, and I've had comments that it doesn't make sense. To me it fits because of the pattern mostly, but also because it's jump jump normal x3. Where we feel jumps is not always the same from person to person either. I'm not a fan of jump combos personally. Also note I did a similar pattern in the beginning, where it was just slider stacked note x3. The 2nd time through I did the complete opposite. It's all to create some variety

[Easy]
Feels a bit fast for a song that is pretty calm. Try a slower slider speed (probably around 0.7) I hate slow easies. Easy typically has a low SV, big circles, and godawful overlaps. I feel I did a good job avoiding that. The only overlaps are the 1/2 after slider notes which are clear as day (since they overlap just a little bit). I'm also not convinced that newbies need to FC a map on their first try. The map's plenty easy to pass, which is the important thing.
03:19:081 (3) - It could be problematic that the hitburst at this slider end isnt gone by the time the player has to hit the slider start, and easy shouldn't have any blind notes. fixed
I dunno, the patterns look a bit too complex for an Easy map, but i'd be writing a wall of text if i were to point out each, so i'll mostly be happy if you avoid stacking double notes.
AIMod lists them all since it's technically "normal" difficulty for less than 200 ms objects, however I didn't stack any of these notes (on purpose). If I have to remove them, I'd rather up the difficulty and call it normal. Since that's obviously not a good idea, I wouldn't feel right without removing them all, which ruins 03:08:018 (1,2) - in my eyes.

I want to apply the fixes because I understand where you're coming from, but at the same time I really like how both difficulties turned out and don't really want to change that.

Sakura Hana wrote:

[Haku's Hard]
02:52:745 (6) - Feels like it should start at: 02:52:995 instead.
02:53:495 (7) - Feels like it should start at: 02:53:870 instead.
02:54:338 (1) - Spinner can be removed if you fix the above, tho they need to be fixed as it follows the music better.

Yay for more circles >.<, though the spinner stay good here anyway ._.

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

New updates after my hiatus, on easy.
Removed a number of circles 1/2 after sliders. The slider on slider 1/2 notes are staying, I can't bring myself to get rid of them, and they fit the music perfectly. Also one finish is off by half a beat, but I need that finish there.

wait... Sakura didn't die, so she simply don't remember what she should do?

I haven't been on much lately to get her attention.

Try to poke her more ._.

Waitwait for her recheck

From .:Let those mod those maps:.

[General]
Here, "nee" is a romanization of ねー, is that the as ねえ? Great storyboard by the way.
Consider adding custom colours.
Add "railgun" to tags?

[Easy]
00:52:290 (1) - RNC
00:53:040 (3) - NC

[lolcubes' Normal]
02:51:620 (1) - Seeing how this part is leading into the breakdown, consider extending this slider to 02:52:370? Conveniently, you can add a clap that you're missing on this beat :3

[Haku's Hard]
01:59:776 (5,6) - Seeing how you don't stack your triples, I don't think you should start now. Just use your 0.8x spacing that you've been using.
02:15:526 (2,3) - Apply to this as well.

[Insane]
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Good luck :3

those wrote:

From .:Let those mod those maps:.

[General]
Here, "nee" is a romanization of ねー, is that the as ねえ? Great storyboard by the way.

I don't write the lyrics. I just report them

Consider adding custom colours.　This is a personal decision. I want the player to choose the best colors for them.
Add "railgun" to tags? This isn't railgun, it's raildex. It would be a lie to put in railgun.

[Easy]
00:52:290 (1) - RNC
00:53:040 (3) - NC
Either way I'm going to have a disproportionate number of beats per combo. In this song I mapped mostly to the lyrics and phrases, and I hope that it came out that way, even though this would normally be good advice

[lolcubes' Normal]
02:51:620 (1) - Seeing how this part is leading into the breakdown, consider extending this slider to 02:52:370? Conveniently, you can add a clap that you're missing on this beat :3
this makes a really long "stream" that I didn't like for normal.
Good luck :3

Thanks, even though I'm not going to use most of the mod, it was still helpful to me. Waiting for haku.

Oh, I unstacked those streams, those, thanks

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

Eew forgot about all those whistles on sliderslides, haha.

ねえ and ねー are the same thing. The hyphen represents an elongation of the previous syllable and writing them either way is fine.

Anyway, apologies for taking so long.

[Easy]
02:05:870 (2) - The normal sliderslide kind of sticks out here. Maybe move the green line from 02:06:620 - to 02:05:916 -
02:11:307 (2) - Same thing here
03:23:768 (1,2) - Easily avoidable overlap

[Normal]
Has a lot of sliders switching between the normal and soft slider slide. Sounds bleh to me.

[Hard]
02:44:870 (1,2,3) - Such a strange decision to move into a stack like this - better to either stack it all or have non stacked.

Garven wrote:

Eew forgot about all those whistles on sliderslides, haha. Sorry, I'm used to them now to the point that I like them (including the normal sliderslides on normal and easy). I suppose in an ideal situation I'd replace slidernormal with whatever, but I wanted this map to be completely customizable (though haku chose to break that ). If it really does bother you on many different maps more than just mine, I would recommend replacing your default sliderslides.
[Easy]
03:23:768 (1,2) - Easily avoidable overlap done.

Give yourself kudos if you want it, but I have a feeling you'd deny it if I gave it to you.

I changed it in a way I do like how it play u.u

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

Uhm, corrected spacings on streams with grid snaps disabled and trasformed 0.7x in 0.8x ( left a 0.7x section in the last breakdown )

Download: IKU - Rimless ~Fuchinashi no Sekai~ (ziin) [Haku's Hard].osu

I moved these two for you as well.
02:15:526 (2) -
03:23:112 (2) -

all done

I can't kudosu myself, though I don't mind denying them. It's much easier to know when a map is ready when I mass-mod and forget what I had done. q:

As for the sounds, I do try to mod with as much resembling default so I can see how it plays with, well, default settings. This includes said sounds. I don't like them, but some people do, so I just point it out in case they changed them on accident.

Anyway, here's that bubble thing back~

Downloading only gives the easy and normal

call me back

im an evil doubleposter

irc mod: nothing

Congrats on rank!

OMG the full versions ranked . congratz on the rank

Gratz!!!!

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finally. congratz^^

Gz ziin

I really like the insane,really good job