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Wizard Of Orz
<3 todeeeee
Derekku
<3 garlic

We all make mistakes. I see no reason why he can't join. :P
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Pasonia
As long as he doesn't do it yet again, I don't see why not. IMHO nardi committed a stronger offence than that in WWG2, just thought I'd give my two cents' worth.
Jinxy

Pasonia wrote:

As long as he doesn't do it yet again, I don't see why not. IMHO nardi committed a stronger offence than that in WWG2, just thought I'd give my two cents' worth.
I think you mean commandhat.

Not joining, Im a replacement in Mafia and I dont like to multitask.

EDIT: Oh.
V
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Pasonia
Did you see "WWG2", JInxy? And I am referring to THIS post.
Please do some research before declaring that I am blind (which I am not)...
Echo
^ blind
Topic Starter
Pasonia
^ wtf Echo.
kuwarudo
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Larto

kuwarudo wrote:

Lol.
Two_old
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Pasonia
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Cuddlebun
Werewolves in space gogogogogo
Wizard Of Orz
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Pasonia
Some clarification of rules to supplement the game rules

1. Per night, the wolves will be able to tell if ONE person is "special" or otherwise, but nothing beyond that.
2. As this game is not big enough, the wolves can't tell if a Psychic psyched someone out. Ever.
Echo
No number on the wolves again? :/

19 people, I'm guessing 6 wolves.
kuwarudo
Guess I'm the lucky boy who got to taste both sides of every game.
Topic Starter
Pasonia
The game is delayed due to two reasons:

1) The non-response of the following players:

* neo@lex
* Two
* kuwarudo


Please respond within the next twelve hours. Failing to do so not only excludes you from THIS game, but also the NEXT.

2) Addition of a new rule.

I have recently received a PM over osu! by a concerned player who was worried about having to deal with impersonations of one player by another.

I am now leaving it to the floor to vote on one of two options:
1) That I implement a rule stating "No impersonation is allowed", and to follow it strictly.

Implementing such a rule means I will not hesitate to kick you off the game if an infraction is discovered. However, this takes up my time when it happens. And for starters, I'm not very pleased about adding in a rule that will potentially eat up more of my me-time than I had wanted.

I'm not a robot who doesn't know the meaning of real-life. Savvy?

2) That I only ADVISE on the possibility of impersonation.

This advisory does not in any way prevent anyone from impersonating, so you set your own counters when it happens. Honestly, even though it really sounds bad from me, I'd rather just advise than POLICE a rule. After all, think Phoenix Wright - if you as a player can overturn a suspect message/piece of information from another player, that guy's getting a LOT of heat.

Vote from now until the start of the game (projected start) in 12 hours' time.
Rolled
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adam2046
A big vote for the rule since various people have thought about doing it and it wouldn't be very fun.
Derekku
I vote for the second option. Like you said in irc, Pasonia, people can watch their own backs, you shouldn't have to monitor everything. I always try to make sure the person I'm talking to from irc is the real deal, but you never know. This is why I prefer PMs/osu-PMs only :?
thepianist
I also vote for the second option. :P Then again, I don't go on IRC much...
YellowerYoshi
My vote goes for option 1. Impersonating a role and impersonating an actual person are two completely different monsters. I think it's a bit crazy to impersonate people seeing as you could really destroy their reputation by saying anything you want.
Topic Starter
Pasonia
As of this point forward, Saturos-fangirl (aww fuck it's just SFG) replaces Rolled in WWG3-R.
Her Role ID will be PM'ed over to her shortly.

Nobody is allowed to ask Rolled what role he bore, either through IRC or here. Or you will... eheheh...
Die in a freak accident.
Rolled
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Yuukari-Banteki
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Cuddlebun
:/

the whole point of me not joining this game was because Rolled would be in it

now that he's not in it, I request permission to throw a huge hissy fit.
Echo
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Topic Starter
Pasonia
Day 1
Middlenow Town
Middlenow Town Square Shopping Center


"The town's borders have been locked by the soldiers," grumbled Saturos-fangirl, "what the hell is going on?"

"My girl, that means you guys are in trouble," suggested a stranger she had never met before.
"Who... who are you?"

Pasonia turned around and face Saturos-fangirl coolly. "I'm here to help manage the situation."
"Manage the situation how?"

"Let's see... earlier in the morning, the GAMFORCE Pharmaceuticals blew up. While it's nothing like NecroTech in Malton, what I can tell for sure is that they've been working on a super-soldier serum."
"And your meaning is..."
"Of course, like everything that was never really meant to be, the place blew. Big time. Even the gun shop five klicks away was wiped out. Basically... you guys were lucky to have survived the explosion. I count nineteen of you.

"Why are you so damn sure GAMFORCE is making such a ridiculous serum?"
"Why wouldn't they be? Proof is in the mass media, remember the government sponsorship that was granted to GAMFORCE lately? And, now, look at the military forces outside. Why wouldn't they help you guys?"

The rest of the group made their way out from the shadows, surprising SFG. Some were still badly covered in soot, some were clearly hit by the debris and had a self first-aid applied all over themselves, which made them look a lot like mummies.

"To be quite honest, a lot of the food stuffs in the now-empty mall is contaminated. I checked; greenish stuff were coming out from the cans and most certainly all the food from the food outlets have been contaminated with the same thing. I'm asserting that it's due to the GAMFORCE explosion. Collectively speaking, we won't be able to survive four days given the number of heads we now have."

"So... what are you suggesting here?"

"I propose a temporal social hierarchy, built upon the death of people."
"Wh...what do you mean?"

"Look, like I said, GAMFORCE exploded into bits and pieces. But that doesn't mean their employees are all dead. In fact, I believe some of you right now are the most affected of the lot. These guys will turn into horrible, wolf-like monsters at night, and I am sure they're seeking their survival here, too. Survival built on killing off every single human."
"What?!" The commotion went on, stares and glares were traded everywhere.

"Quiet! I'm sure we don't have too many in this group, alright? I'm only here to facilitate the system."
"Then don't *you* need to eat, big guy?" neo@lex shouted. "You're one of us too; why not we kill you first?"
"Because you won't," growled Pasonia, before picking up neo@lex high up on his collar with one hand, veins popping out menacingly from his forearm.

neo@lex could only meekly whimper.

"Alright, here's a few rules I want you to take note.
1. Before dusk today I want everybody to submit a vote to me stating who you wish to lynch.
2. I am vehemently against impersonation, and if you dare trouble me with such an act, ever, I guarantee you will die somehow."

Everybody nodded their heads. After what happened to neo@lex, nobody is going to protest.

Day 1 has started. Free discussion and lynch voting starts now.

Due to delays from previously, I hereby announce that this is a short day of 36 hours only, and voting ends at 12:00AM Sunday 21/06/09 GMT+0800. So make your discussions count!
Echo
FIRST!

Vote: neo@lex for being one of the last to confirm and being featured in Pasonia's intro story
LadySuburu
Vote: Echo

Because I have never done so before.
adam2046
Subi is such a rebel~
I random vote m980
YellowerYoshi
Vote kuwarudo.

Because I can.
kuwarudo
WWG 1, WWG 2...

Hey, I have never voted for Echo before. Or have I? Have I? /shrug

I vote for LadySuburu.

Random to the MAX
Olinad
I randomly vote Derekku Chan because he's above me on the list and I don't like it >:(
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Randomness is random weird shit.

Updating the standings in 4 hours.
nardii
I just learned I might not even be able to access a computer this weekend ( :( ), so I'll try to check later but for now I vote myself for not being able to check (lame!).
Echo

nardi11011 wrote:

I just learned I might not even be able to access a computer this weekend, so I'll try to check later
This is obviously an excuse for lurking :P
Larto
Why the fuck are you guys random voting so hard. I really don't think this is doing much good.


However we always do this on day one, right? I vote YellowYoshi because I like kuwarudo >:(
Wojjan
"Umm.. Everyone? Is flinging random votes at one another really doing us good?"
Wojjan stumbled amidst the group, sitting down at the nearest opportunity, for his leg had something against radiation, apparently.
"Oof! What I was saying is, shouldn't we be more worried about the GAMDRIVE guys here? They're super-soldiers, and I don't want supersoldiers killing me."
He tried to rise, but then fell again. This place really started to get to him, and the churning pain everywhere didn't make the situation better.
"I'm in a bad shape, I know. Can anyone pass me the band-aid?"
Said band-aid landed somewhere near his feet.
"So, if we want to survive this place, we gotta stick together. It's not the food, but the soldiers we need to worry about."
When all that he wanted to say made its way through his throat, he discreetly vanished in one of the malls, searching for some food that was left.

No vote yet
Echo

Larto wrote:

Why the fuck are you guys random voting so hard. I really don't think this is doing much good.
Random votes get the game going and could easily reveal a slip of tongue (finger?) because people tend to be less cautious when random voting.

(I seem to remember having said this before somewhere >.>)
Derekku
inb4roleclaim

Vote Agent Spin Here

Gotta love random votes~
Neo@lex
*Cough* Vo-
Vote Echo...
*Wheeze*
For voting me, and because I'd like to keep pretending I don't like him.

...I can't believe you did that, Pas...

...
DO IT AGAIN!!! MAYBE WITH ROCKS! SHARP ROCKS!!!
Yuukari-Banteki
vote nardi cus 1. he isnt very active and 2. i dont like him
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Pasonia leered around, doing nothing in particular. He turned on a nearby PC, and was surprised to find it has electricity to even run. Deciding that there's no harm in trying, Pasonia plugged a wireless power-linker into the PC. In seconds it announced "SN Telecoms accessed. Using 3G technology..."

The news sites like BBC and CNN were awash with announcements that Middlenow Town is now suspected to be in the epicenter of a government scandal - like as if that wasn't obvious enough! - and that... zombies have overridden the township?

"This ain't no Resident Evil 5," growled Pasonia. "Looks like it's time to connect to a friend."

Pasonia quickly fiddled around, and accessed an email inbox.

"I do wanna know just what the hell happened in the Department of Defense," growled Pasonia. But... with all these slips of paper stuck on my table..."

It took about two minutes for him to finish the tabulation, and five seconds to send a print request to the printer, which took power from the PC and thus still works.

"Woohaa, here goes.
Vote standings... updated.
Sh-weet!"
0_o
vote Two because he's new and I'm a jerk
Two_old
I vote for Echo
kuwarudo
LOL, that was abrupt :3

I GOTTA STOP WITH THOSE EMOTICONS
adam2046
Adam stole the computer from Pasonia (gotsta get my UD on)
Wizard Of Orz
vote nardi101110101011000

because i dislike his pressence in the forums. he also tried to ban me from this game >:(. That faggot
Two_old
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Derekku
Wait, nardi is playing?

Unvote.
Vote nardi.
m980
Are you guys serious?

May as well join in

Vote Nardi
Echo
We only have less than 24 hours left? Let's force a post.

unvote, vote nardi
thepianist
I would Vote Nardi as well. WOW TIME PASSES TOO FAST. D:
Cuddlebun
wow you guys

just wow
Echo
echo: neo@lex
suburu: echo
adam: m980
yellowyoshi: kuwarudo
kuwarudo: suburu
olinad: derekku
nardi: nardi
larto: yellowyoshi
derekku: ash
neo@lex: echo
sfg: nardi
0_o: two
two: echo
supergarlic: nardi
derekku: nardi

m980: nardi
echo: nardi
thepianist: nardi

I just realised that nardi won't be back before the deadline.

unvote
vote SFG

SFG, supergarlic and derekku get special mention because they were the first few to vote nardi, knowing he wouldn't have a chance to defend himself. SFG especially, since it was on the same page. nardi himself is very likely a villager because a wolf would not vote himself knowing he would not be back before the deadline. I think SFG/supergarlic/derekku are trying to get a bandwagon going in such a way that the rest of us just go "oh look nardi's getting voted let's vote him" without realising he won't be back in time. I certainly got tricked >:|
Derekku
Actually, we just don't like nardi lol

Since there's no discussion to go on, we're just doing random votes. Since nardi is annoying, people are voting for him first :)

kuu will probably be day two unless people vote for him today lolz

EDIT: no offense, but if you're not going to participate, then you shouldn't sign up ;)
YellowerYoshi
It isn't nardi's fault. He didn't say anything until well after Day 1 started because he didn't find out that he wouldn't have computer access until then. It's hardly fair to kill him for such a groundless reason as saying "he shouldn't have signed up if he can't participate".
Derekku

YellowYoshi1 wrote:

It isn't nardi's fault. He didn't say anything until well after Day 1 started because he didn't find out that he wouldn't have computer access until then. It's hardly fair to kill him for such a groundless reason as saying "he shouldn't have signed up if he can't participate".
The reason I said that is because he did the same thing in Mafia 2. He barely posted or participated in any discussion. :|
Yuukari-Banteki

Derekku Chan wrote:

YellowYoshi1 wrote:

It isn't nardi's fault. He didn't say anything until well after Day 1 started because he didn't find out that he wouldn't have computer access until then. It's hardly fair to kill him for such a groundless reason as saying "he shouldn't have signed up if he can't participate".

The reason I said that is because he did the same thing in Mafia 2. He barely posted or participated in any discussion.
:|

i voted nardi because i have yet to see him actually participate in any game. i mean people join because they WANT to participate and help their team and win. Or just because Rolled guilt-tripped me into taking his place. but at least im trying to participate, while nardi does not. furthermore i was completely unaware that i was starting a bandwagon - i was voting him based on personal feelings because i had nothing else to go on. (which i really still dont)
Echo

Derekku Chan wrote:

Actually, we just don't like nardi lol
"we"? You admit being in a group with them? :3

Also @sfg so you're not going to unvote even though now you know that nardi won't be back until after the deadline? (or so he says)
Derekku

Echo wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

Actually, we just don't like nardi lol
"we"? You admit being in a group with them? :3
:roll: Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but they might. :P
Mashley
bleh this started already?
Vote Derekku Chan
Yeah.

Actually, we just don't like nardi lol
This quote worries me, so it can have my vote fore now.
Derekku

Agent Spin Here wrote:

bleh this started already?
What do you mean? A vote against you, or the game in general? If you meant the former, I was joking. :P Gotta start somewhere on day 1.

Agent Spin Here wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

Actually, we just don't like nardi lol
This quote worries me, so it can have my vote for now.
Also a joke. Like I said, I have nothing personal against him, but he should participate when he's supposed to.

/me goes to bed
Yuukari-Banteki
@Echo ive not been given a better choice to vote for yet and i think by "we" Derekku means the people who are involved in Mafia 2, a group which includes myself.
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Echo
And neither do yours, foul.
Wojjan
Vote: m980 for bandwagoning and chipping in the extra votes to get a majority.

ZEDIT:

foulcoon wrote:

I had fun reading all the posts, they had absolutely no substance whatsoever.
At least I tried ;'(
kuwarudo
With the amount of random vote coming on, I can expect on day 2 that it will be random voting again, until there are only a few people. Also for some reason I expect to die in the night, as to why I don't know. I just have a feeling. Of course, I could be wronged so that suspicion will fall on me. Some of you may think, that the reason I am still alive is because I am one of the "wolves", or whatever they're called now :|, I may have an aux role, that could help the humans to win, or maybe I'm just a humble villager, with nothing to do but say this stuff out loud.
m980
I laugh at Wojjan at voting me despite the other few people he could have voted for the same reason.

Also yeah a werewolf wouldn't vote for himself so..

Unvote

Also

Random Vote Wojjan

For voting me when there were waaay more people to vote for the very same reason he voted me.
Wojjan

m980 wrote:

Are you guys serious?

May as well join in
Sorry, m980, sounds pretty wolfy to me.
Wojjan
yeah, yeah, double post, etc.

I had a chat today:

<adam2046> hey Wojjan?
<adam2046> you a wolf?
<Wojjan> no
<Wojjan> I have an aux
<m980> how can we be sure
<Wojjan> ecactly
<Wojjan> I can't really show you yet
<adam2046> *facepalm*
<Wojjan> So you don't believe me, so what was your point in asking anyway?
<adam2046> *facepalm**facepalm**facepalm**facepalm*
<m980> did i ruin something adam ???
<adam2046> don't say you have an aux first day...
<adam2046> idiot
<Wojjan> I know, but if I said I'm human you definitely wouldn't believe me
<adam2046> why?
<adam2046> I was just asking
<Wojjan> and if you're human, you won't post this log, because you'd lose an aux tonight
<adam2046> idiot
<adam2046> there's more than just me in here
<m980> echo is always here
<Wojjan> I know, and with some luck, the Guardian angel is here aswell.
<Wojjan> And he might protect me tonight

So, yeah. If there's an angel, please protect me from the lurking Wolves. I mean, supersoldiers.
Echo

Wojjan wrote:

<Wojjan> I have an aux
So, yeah. If there's an angel, please protect me from the lurking Wolves. I mean, supersoldiers.
Role claiming already, huh.

Does this seriously need to happen in every single game?

Telling the world you have a role is bad for us and beneficial to the wolves. Please refrain from doing so in public unless you wish to make some sort of point.

18:43 * Echo slaps wojjan silly
Wojjan
At least the guardian angel knows what to do when he reads this.

And I could just as well want to trap the wolves in wasting their kill on a uman, instead of possible aux.
Echo
In case anyone was wondering, the deadline is in 5 hours.

mod: I humbly suggest an extension of at least 24 hours. Otherwise we'll end up with random votes every day; there simply aren't enough posts to weed out potential wolves.
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Pasonia
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Pasonia
Day 2
6:20AM - Reveille Hour
Middlenow Town Square Shopping Center - Supermarket/Kitchen area.

"With a working stove and all, this should be enough for a bunch of people who's going to chew through canned food," whistled Pasonia as he worked the stove around. He saw the wolves move around, but, being experienced enough, he had little to worry about; as it were, the wolves didn't even think of touching Pasonia, knowing he too won't be too bothered if something did happen.

"Aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"

The shrill scream broke through the airspace within the shopping center, causing every living being to be startled and awakened. Within ten minutes, everyone rushed down to the supermarket area where some thought the scream came from.

When the posse did rush down to the basement, they saw it all;
m980, a mangled mess of his former self, ravaged by the wolves.

"Holy... shit," muttered neo@lex.

"As well it should be," replied a nonchalant voice - Pasonia's - as he dragged a large bag shaped like a very long gourd of sorts.
"The Chinese Prayer Joss Sticks' n Stuff shop is by the side of the supermarket - peruse it if you want to pay your respects to the formerly living. Even if not for luck it does offer some form of calm to you guys," blurted Pasonia.

(m980 is now out of this game as of Dawn 2.)
<- thanks for pointing out my error.

Day 2 has begun. You may now talk.
Neo@lex
How come every time I speak in the story posts there's always a grammar mistake?
"You're one of us too; why not we kill you first?"
"Holy... shit,"
Topic Starter
Pasonia
OOC: I don't know dude. I just like to do that to you maybe. But who the fuck cares about a comma on the Internet?
foulcoon
Hot damn, I didn't die first this time. thx guise (dies night 2)
Wojjan
I have my thoughts about this m980 death. I need to check who else voted for m980, since I wasn't alone.
The very night before the moment I said m980 sounded wolfy, he's gone. Seems like the Wolves are planning to make a point of some sorts.

Still, it could be coincidence.
Derekku
m980? *checks his posts again*

I guess you could say that he jumped on the bandwagon for being the 5th person to vote for nardi, but that would only make him suspicious of being a wolf. If he got night killed, then he's obviously NOT a wolf.

BUT, Wojjan was quick to do two things.

1) Jump on m980 for his vote.
2) Claim an aux role, which is an incredibly stupid thing to do at the beginning.

I'm making my suspicion of this guy known.

Vote Wojjan

Also, Pasonia, don't you mean Dawn? Dusk is the period of time before nightfall. Dawn is the period in the morning before sunrise.
Yuukari-Banteki
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0_o

Derekku Chan wrote:

m980? *checks his posts again*

I guess you could say that he jumped on the bandwagon for being the 5th person to vote for nardi, but that would only make him suspicious of being a wolf. If he got night killed, then he's obviously NOT a wolf.
I'd think the fact that he isn't a wolf kind of goes without saying?

BUT, Wojjan was quick to do two things.

1) Jump on m980 for his vote.
So you are suspicious of him because he voted for someone who was bandwagoning? You said yourself that these are mostly random votes...
2) Claim an aux role, which is an incredibly stupid thing to do at the beginning.
No it wasn't smart, but why does this mean he is a wolf? Do auxes never make mistakes?
I'm making my suspicion of this guy known.

Vote Wojjan
I have the strong impression that you are a wolf who is trying to get him lynched to avoid the guardian angel.

vote derekku
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Pasonia
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Derekku

0_o wrote:

I have the strong impression that you are a wolf who is trying to get him lynched to avoid the guardian angel.
He didn't say that he was the guardian angel. We have no clue who that is.

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

i trust Wojjan, and i think that we should until we have a good reason to disbelieve him. He had a pretty solid defense of being human and its too early to risk lynching aux roles.

im not voting yet, but i am directing a bit of suspicion on you, Derekku.
What the fuck. So I give reasons for my vote, but that makes me suspicious?

Also, why the hell do you trust Wojjan? I see NO "solid" defense that he's a townie. All he said was that he was an aux role. Is this some new logic that I missed? "Claim an aux role and you're automatically innocent." Seriously, what the fuck.

EDIT: tl;dr - Back up your reasoning. I guess I know what Echo feels like in these games. No wonder he always gets killed so fast :(
Neo@lex

0_o wrote:

I have the strong impression that you are a wolf who is trying to get him lynched to avoid the guardian angel.
So the fact that he referenced something that he previously complained about makes him a wolf? Your reason for voting makes it look a lot like you're unconditionally banding with Wojjan.
That said, I'm not voting for him, because there is still a chance he has an aux.
vote 0_o
Yuukari-Banteki

Derekku Chan wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

i trust Wojjan, and i think that we should until we have a good reason to disbelieve him. He had a pretty solid defense of being human and its too early to risk lynching aux roles.

im not voting yet, but i am directing a bit of suspicion on you, Derekku.
What the fuck. So I give reasons for my vote, but that makes me suspicious?

Also, why the hell do you trust Wojjan? I see NO "solid" defense that he's a townie. All he said was that he was an aux role. Is this some new logic that I missed? "Claim an aux role and you're automatically innocent." Seriously, what the fuck.

EDIT: tl;dr - Back up your reasoning. I guess I know what Echo feels like in these games. No wonder he always gets killed so fast :(

we're allowed to whisper (aka pm) at night, and i took the liberty of talking to a couple people. pretty much all of the people mentioned/talked to are in agreement that we should trust Wojjan for now. He still hasn't revealed what his "role" is other than the fact that it is not Guardian Angel, and its possible that he can use that to justify himself if we give him the time to do so


that said....have a log, host!
<SFG|Rh> unfortunately Pas's idea of fast-paced leaves almost no time for the human community to learn each other
<other player> i think 4 days ish is good
<other player> but everyone must participate daily
<other player> otherwise you need at least a week
<SFG|Rh> i think its 2 days in Day and 1 day in Night
<other player> yeah
<SFG|Rh> thats not long enough
<other player> like you said, there really isn't that much to go on from day 1 posts

requesting slightly longer Day's and Night's
Cuddlebun
Nights are fine as they are; I do think the days are a little too short, but you guys didn't need it on Day 1 cuz you were straight-up random voting :P

As long as I'm posting, have a vote tally. No, no, I insist. The names in the parentheses are the voters.

1 vote against Wojjan (Derekku Chan)
1 vote against Derekku Chan (0_o)
1 vote against 0_o (neo@lex)

I will be keeping vote tallies every few votes so you guys have a solid reference point and Pasonia as well when he does the official vote tally. Doing this at Pasonia's request so shut your mouths before you even open them.

Have not counted for Phantom Votes; I may check for them later if I'm bored.
0_o

neo@lex wrote:

That said, I'm not voting for him, because there is still a chance he has an aux.
This is exactly it. Claiming an aux role should make a human less inclined to vote for them (temporarily at least, until there is more information). However, Derekku voted Wojjan with the reasons that:
1) he voted for m980 (which is pointless because most of first day's votings are random anyway, and Derekku knows this which is why I pointed it out)
2) that he claimed an aux role (which, seeing as there is zero evidence right now that he is lying, should be a reason not to vote for him.)
It seems to me like he is just looking for reasons to make Wojjan look suspicious. I see this as wolf behaviour because this is exactly what I tried to do when I was a wolf in the last game when ASH first claimed an aux role.

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure that Wojjan is who he says he is, but I am saying that we don't have nearly enough knowledge right now to vote for him and say he's lying.
Larto
Poor m980. As I can tell from reading his posts, he looked more like a wolf than a human, really. Could have been an awesome chance for the wolves to make him suspicious and get him lynchkilled, why nightkill him?
Oh well, stupid wolves. kuwarudo might be one that means... just kidding~ I'm not voting yet, let's see what comes out of this discussion.
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thepianist
My gosh these days are slightly too fast. :P

0_o wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

...If he got night killed, then he's obviously NOT a wolf.
I'd think the fact that he isn't a wolf kind of goes without saying?
Wait, I thought wolves can kill wolves as well - how would you know that m980 isn't a wolf? He very well may be...

0_o wrote:

It seems to me like he is just looking for reasons to make Wojjan look suspicious. I see this as wolf behaviour because this is exactly what I tried to do when I was a wolf in the last game when ASH first claimed an aux role.
Aren't you also kinda looking for reasons to make others looking suspicious as well?

Iono who to vote for yet. I think I'll wait for more discussion...

No vote yet.
nardii
Dead men tell no tales.

nardi, you should've known better than to post when you're dead.

- Pasonia
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Derekku

thepianist wrote:

0_o wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

...If he got night killed, then he's obviously NOT a wolf.
I'd think the fact that he isn't a wolf kind of goes without saying?
Wait, I thought wolves can kill wolves as well - how would you know that m980 isn't a wolf? He very well may be...
I think they can, but why the fuck would they kill one of themselves? There's no point in doing that, so my point stands.

0_o wrote:

Claiming an aux role should make a human less inclined to vote for them (temporarily at least, until there is more information).
It goes the other way, too. There's really no reason to role claim early. His claim seemed to me like he was afraid of getting accused of being a wolf and claimed to protect himself.

0_o wrote:

However, Derekku voted Wojjan with the reasons that:
1) he voted for m980 (which is pointless because most of first day's votings are random anyway, and Derekku knows this which is why I pointed it out)
It was NOT a random vote. What the fuck do you mean I know this? Wojjan said "Vote: m980 for bandwagoning and chipping in the extra votes to get a majority." Please read before accusing me. =|

0_o wrote:

2) that he claimed an aux role (which, seeing as there is zero evidence right now that he is lying, should be a reason not to vote for him.)
I don't see any evidence that he's truthful, either. He role claimed (which btw, I sometimes mean "aux claimed", but I have a habit or saying "role" instead), and people believed him, but that's not "proof".

0_o wrote:

It seems to me like he is just looking for reasons to make Wojjan look suspicious
No one else is talking. There's nothing to go on. You HAVE to start somewhere. It seems like people are only fucking voting for me because I'm actually giving my opinion. Why don't you all start some discussion instead of throwing shit at me. Kthx

0_o wrote:

I'm not saying I'm 100% sure that Wojjan is who he says he is, but I am saying that we don't have nearly enough knowledge right now to vote for him and say he's lying.
Again, we have to dig up knowledge. Unless this game is going to consist of random votes and "lol I believe this guy lol", we're not going to get anywhere.

EDIT: Take my words into account, everyone. Don't just jump in once a day to post your vote. Actually come in multiple times and discuss things. This can be a very fun game if people actually participate :)
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Neo@lex
Unvote.
Neither of you would argue this far if you were werewolves.
Derekku

0_o wrote:

Could you explain why you find Wojjan's vote suspicious?
Why did he vote for m980? Other people "bandwangoned" after his vote on nardi, so why not change his vote to one of them? I'm just trying to state my opinion of what I think. I may be wrong, but who knows.
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