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Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol? (Short Ver.)

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Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, July 02, 2014 at 9:13:09 PM

Artist: Lucky Star Cast
Title: Nande Dattakke Idol? (Short Ver.)
Source: Lucky Star
Tags: lucky star girls meow cast konata winber1 [tsukasa] kuronumasawako
BPM: 170
Filesize: 15035kb
Play Time: 01:01
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.2 stars, 55 notes)
  2. Sawa's Hard (3.16 stars, 140 notes)
  3. Tsukasa's Insane (4.36 stars, 223 notes)
  4. Winber1's Normal (1.85 stars, 83 notes)
Download: Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol? (Short Ver.)
Download: Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol? (Short Ver.) (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Beatmap #1

Easy (Easy) - Meowcenaries
Winber1's Normal (Normal) - Winber1
Sawa's Hard (Hard) - KuronumaSawako
Tsukasa's Insane (Insane) - Tsukasa
KuronumaSawako
Hm...i can help you in this with a guest diff?
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries

KuronumaSawako wrote:

Hm...i can help you in this with a guest diff?
Sure Which difficulty did you want to make?
KuronumaSawako

MeowcenariesJP wrote:

KuronumaSawako wrote:

Hm...i can help you in this with a guest diff?
Sure Which difficulty did you want to make?
Will make Hard, ok?
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
OK! :D
dkun
modding key

this is unrankable.
this should be highly considered.
this is just a normal suggestion/praise.

General
  1. First map? Let's see...
Easy
  1. The star rating on this makes the map very.. not-easy. Consider these following suggestions to help lower it.
  2. Starting off, your slider velocity is way too fast for an easy. It doesn't fit in with the low AR/OD, the current SV is more suited for a Hard.
  3. Contact me for an example + call me when you actually finish it. :)
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Okie doke, will do dkun-san.
KuronumaSawako
Here my diff.

Also

Offset: 630 (Think this offset works better)
Preview time if you want a one: 00:32:349

Hope you like my diff.

PS:. I provided a video, 2 custom hitsounds for this map then use these two. :P

Also, added a background for my diff.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vuc1i1n46luhdbd (Sorry can't upload via puush)
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Difficulty added.
KuronumaSawako
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Hey! Awesome. You're the bomb. :]. Added new updates<3
KuronumaSawako
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Added updates and changes.
Anzo
[General]
* Audio Lead-in: 1 second to 1.5 seconds
* Kiai Time: Start 00:32:394, End at 00:57:806
* Easy and Hard don't have video, just drag the video (in the song's folder) to the edit window
* You have BG, but not used in Easy and TNL
(this applies to all diffs)

[Easy]
* Too many to fix here... so just go fix something with this (dL attachment)
(don't worry, most of your style is not modified, only those parts that need fix)
(Add hitsounds)

Download: Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.) (MeowcenariesJP) [Easy].osu
winber1
Normal diff. Sorry it took so long.

also, it's either something really weird happened, or your easy just really doesn't make any sense. everything is pretty much off beat :/ at least in the beginning.

Another thing, offset 1350 seems to work better imo. (that makes the beat approximately 15ms after what it originally was.) This way, the main beat actually lies in the correct spot. RIght not the main beat is not where it's supposed to be.you can check my diff to see if it makes any sense with that offset.

Download: Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.) (MeowcenariesJP) [Winber1's Normal].osu
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
It's okay winber
Difficulties added.
changes Added.
Tsukasa
I see you only changed the lead in on the easy diff.

Put lead in on the other maps. ( and yes... i have forgotten to put the lead in on mine as well)
Kirino Kousaka
Hello!~ Here's my voluntary mod as I told you :3

  • [General]
  1. Delete that .osb file in your folder. It's not necessary since you're not using any SB's. You're using a video.
  2. Kiai times aren't consistent on all diffs. They must be all the same.
  3. Offset isn't consistent too. They must be all the same. Winber1's offset sounds just right. Use 1350 as your offset to all diffs.
  4. Music Track Lead-In's aren't consistent too. They must be all the same as much as possible. Use 1.5 seconds for your Lead-In, it feels just right imo.
  5. Preview Points must be set on all diffs and must be consistent! :cry: It's usually set on the start of the chorus. Just go ahead and apply what Winber1 and thenewearth did in their diffs.

    [Easy]
  6. Spacing: lol I can see many issues on spacing, which Aimod can't even see, idk why it can't.
    There are jumps here in this diff, which isn't nice. As much as possible, you must have no spacing infringements on an easy/normal diff or in case you really do need to have, the maximum is 1. I'll give you examples,
    look at 00:18:277 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - You are using x0.8
    and suddenly on 00:23:218 (3) - the Distance spacing changed into x0.6 which is not right.
    Also look on 00:25:335 (3,1) - the Distance Spacing suddenly changed into x1.2 turning this part into a jump. Easy and Normal diffs must have no jumps, not even one, or else they cannot be ranked.

    You must use only one distance spacing and remap this, or move the notes one by one if you like. I suggest you to use x0.8. But of course you must still have the flow of your map going well. Don't forget the design too~ :D

    Design
  7. 00:04:865 (2,3) - These notes are quite hard to play especially for beginners (Even I had a wrong reading on these notes on my first try). Replace these notes with a slider.

    [Winber1's Normal]
  8. What happened to the video on this diff? How come it's not put in this one? Add it lol.
    Open this diff's .osu file in notepad> Add this line Video,0,"PSP Lucky Star Net Idol Meister ED Ending HD (HQ)~1.avi" below //Background and Video events and above 0,0,"lucky-star.jpg"
  9. 00:18:820 (1,2) - Fix the spacing between these two notes.
  10. 00:19:702 (2,3) - ^
  11. 00:33:820 (2) - Split this slider into two. In other words turn this thing into two sliders, I really don't like to have more than 1 reversal for a slider on normal diffs.
  12. 00:42:114 (4) - This slider looks kinda weird. Turn it into something better if you can.
  13. 00:45:114 (3) - same with 00:33:820 (2)
  14. 01:01:349 (2) - ^

    [Sawa's Hard]
  15. 00:03:277 (7) - Add NC
  16. 00:13:335 (6) - ^
  17. 00:14:041 (8,9,10,11) - Creating these stream sound (1/4 note) here sounds weird. I suggest you to use only 1/2 note on this part.
  18. 00:26:747 (5) - Add NC

    [TNE]
  19. 00:15:276 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is too far for a jump, please use a quite normal jump. I suggest you to move all these notes 2 grids towards the center.
  20. 00:42:276 (1,5,9,13) - Try adding claps on these. :D
  21. 00:43:334 (13) - Remove finish on this notes.
  22. 00:48:012 (1) - Make this spinner start at "00:47:924" and still end it to "00:48:982". Also replace the "finish" on this with "clap".
That's all~ I hope this helps :)
Star!~
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
•Delete that .osb file in your folder. It's not necessary since you're not using any SB's. You're using a video.
•Kiai times aren't consistent on all diffs. They must be all the same.
•Offset isn't consistent too. They must be all the same. Winber1's offset sounds just right. Use 1350 as your offset to all diffs.
•Music Track Lead-In's aren't consistent too. They must be all the same as much as possible. Use 1.5 seconds for your Lead-In, it feels just right imo.
•Preview Points must be set on all diffs and must be consistent! It's usually set on the start of the chorus. Just go ahead and apply what Winber1 and thenewearth did in their diffs.

[Easy]
•Spacing: lol I can see many issues on spacing, which Aimod can't even see, idk why it can't.
There are jumps here in this diff, which isn't nice. As much as possible, you must have no spacing infringements on an easy/normal diff or in case you really do need to have, the maximum is 1. I'll give you examples,
look at 00:18:277 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - You are using x0.8
and suddenly on 00:23:218 (3) - the Distance spacing changed into x0.6 which is not right.
Also look on 00:25:335 (3,1) - the Distance Spacing suddenly changed into x1.2 turning this part into a jump. Easy and Normal diffs must have no jumps, not even one, or else they cannot be ranked.

Design
•00:04:865 (2,3) - These notes are quite hard to play especially for beginners (Even I had a wrong reading on these notes on my first try). Replace these notes with a slider

Done, I am editting this post to show what I have done with your mod. :P Every now and then, it will be added on.
winber1

Kirino Kousaka wrote:

[Winber1's Normal]
[*]What happened to the video on this diff? How come it's not put in this one? Add it lol.
Open this diff's .osu file in notepad> Add this line Video,0,"PSP Lucky Star Net Idol Meister ED Ending HD (HQ)~1.avi" below //Background and Video events and above 0,0,"lucky-star.jpg" mmk
[*]00:18:820 (1,2) - Fix the spacing between these two notes. are you seriously naziing that much? >_> no one is going to be able to tell any difference from a .02x spacing difference lol, nor would a beginner. but whatever. fixed.
[*]00:19:702 (2,3) - ^
[*]00:33:820 (2) - Split this slider into two. In other words turn this thing into two sliders, I really don't like to have more than 1 reversal for a slider on normal diffs. Fits music and should be fine. It's a normal diff, not an easy diff. Secondly, having more than 1 repeat is fine even in the easy difficulties as long as they make sense and are consistent throughout, which mine are.
[*]00:42:114 (4) - This slider looks kinda weird. Turn it into something better if you can. personal opinions. i find it looks quite nice.
[*]00:45:114 (3) - same with 00:33:820 (2)
[*]01:01:349 (2) - ^
fixed .osu file and extremely tiny spacing error. i'm amazed AIMod even says that it's spaced incorrectly.

Also, could you add my name to the tags? thanks. :3

Download: Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.) (MeowcenariesJP) [Winber1's Normal].osu
Tsukasa
asdf star'd (wrong buttons are wrong)
Tsukasa

Kirino Kousaka wrote:

[TNE]
[*]00:15:276 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is too far for a jump, please use a quite normal jump. I suggest you to move all these notes 2 grids towards the center. <-- Most people can do this jumps. I don't thing it's too much of a jump
[*]00:42:276 (1,5,9,13) - Try adding claps on these. :D <-- it follows the drums no need for the claps
[*]00:43:334 (13) - Remove finish on this notes. <-- you can hear the "cymbal like" sound here
[*]00:48:012 (1) - Make this spinner start at "00:47:924" and still end it to "00:48:982". Also replace the "finish" on this with "clap".<-- i HONESTLY didn't notice this...[/list]
That's all~ I hope this helps :)
Star!~
[/quote]
Tsukasa
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Updates added.
Osu Tatakae Ouendan
[Easy]
Timing Points
remove the inheriting point at 00:01:350
change the volumes, if possible for all diffs or as long as they're close enough to each other
00:01:350 around 65% to 70%
00:32:408 around 75% to 85%
00:57:820 around 65% to 70%
Mapping
00:01:350 (1) - add a finish to this slider end
00:03:467 (1) - add a whistle for entire slider
00:06:997 (1) - add a finish for this slider end
00:11:761 (3) - whistle for this slider end
00:12:997 (1) - clap for this slider end
00:18:291 (1) - finish
00:23:938 (1) - move three grids left using distance snap, add a finish. adjust the rest of the notes using distance snap afterwards
00:26:757 (2) - clap
00:33:467 (2) - whistle for entire slider
00:34:879 (3) - clap
00:36:291 (4) - whistle for this slider end
00:36:644 (5) - whistle
00:37:349 (6) - clap
00:38:055 (1) - finish
00:39:997 (2) - whistle for this slider end
00:40:526 (3) - move to 00:40:879 , adjust spacing using distance snap
00:41:232 (4) - move to 00:41:585 , adjust spacing using distance snap
00:41:938 (1) - finish
00:45:820 (3) - clap
00:54:997 (1) - finish
01:02:408 (4) - finish for this specific slider end
[Winber1's Normal]
why is the tick at 2? I THINK it should be at 1
nothing much to change
[Sawa's Hard]
Is it just me or are all the notes here a few miliseconds late. i mean the bpm seems correct but the notes aren't snapped to the timing.
please fix
00:14:497 (8) - remove. sounds a little overmapped if this note was here. up to you to remove it or not
00:18:291 (1) - move 5 grids up. don't forget to move everything else after that
00:31:879 (9,10) - move using distance snap. if not, move just 1 grid left
00:58:085 - what's with this break? i suggest you place some notes here
01:00:114 (2,3,4,5) - LOL too close to (1) oh please DO move
[TNE]
same timing problem with Sawa's Hard diff.
00:02:761 (5,6) - move 2 grids right
00:03:291 (1) - move 3 grids down
00:03:644 (2,3,4,5,6) - move 4 grids down, 3 grids left
00:04:526 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - move 2 grids down
00:05:232 (5) - move 1 grid up
00:05:585 (7,8,9,10) - move 1 grid left
00:07:349 (2) - stack it with (1)
00:07:879 (3) - move 9 grids left, 2 grids up
00:08:055 (4) - stack with (3) and flip horizontally
00:08:232 (5) - move the center waypoint 2 grids left, 1 grid down, the end waypoint 1 grid right, 1 grid down. then rotate slider by -40 degrees, afterwards move entire slider up 5 grids
should look like this now:

00:08:938 (6) - move center waypoint 2 grids right, rotate slider by -23 degrees, afterwards move slider 3 grids left
00:15:820 (4) - move 3 grids right
00:15:997 (5) - move 1 grid up 4 grids left
00:16:173 (6) - move 2 grids up
00:16:349 (7) - stack with (4)
00:16:526 (8) - stack with (5)
00:16:702 (9) - stack with (6)
00:18:732 (2) - 7 grids up 4 grids right
00:19:173 (3) - move 3 grids right 2 grids up
00:19:526 (4) - stack with (2)
00:19:702 (5) - stack with (3)
00:20:452 (6) - move left about 15 grids (?)
00:20:761 (7) - move it but i'll leave it up to you how to move it
00:24:997 (1) - remove the finish on this slider end
00:26:408 (3) - ^
00:29:938 (2) - move up 1 grid
00:34:526 (7) - move 1 grid down
00:37:702 (10) - move 5 grids right
00:38:055 (1) - move 3 grids down
00:38:408 (2) - move 2 grids up 1 grid right
00:38:761 (3) - move 3 grids down 1 grid right
00:39:114 (4) - 1 grid left 3 grids up
00:44:408 (2) - 1 grid down
00:50:938 (6) - 1 grid down
00:51:291 (8,9) - 1 grid down
00:52:526 (2) - 2 grids left 2 grids up
00:55:349 (1,2,3,4,5) -

00:56:408 (1,2,3...13) - move entire stream 3 grids up 6 grids right
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
[Easy]
Timing Points
remove the inheriting point at 00:01:350 (Done)
change the volumes, if possible for all diffs or as long as they're close enough to each other
00:01:350 around 65% to 70% (Done)
00:32:408 around 75% to 85% (Done)
00:57:820 around 65% to 70% (Done)
Mapping
00:01:350 (1) - add a finish to this slider end (Done)
00:03:467 (1) - add a whistle for entire slider (Done)
00:06:997 (1) - add a finish for this slider end (Done)
00:11:761 (3) - whistle for this slider end (Done)
00:12:997 (1) - clap for this slider end (Done)
00:18:291 (1) - finish (Done)
00:23:938 (1) - move three grids left using distance snap ( Done), add a finish. (Done) adjust the rest of the notes using distance snap afterwards (Done)
00:26:757 (2) - clap (Done)
00:33:467 (2) - whistle for entire slider (Done)
00:34:879 (3) - clap (Done)
00:36:291 (4) - whistle for this slider end (Done)
00:36:644 (5) - whistle (Done)
00:37:349 (6) - clap (Done)
00:38:055 (1) - finish (Done)
00:39:997 (2) - whistle for this slider end (Done)
00:40:526 (3) - move to 00:40:879 , adjust spacing using distance snap (Done)
00:41:232 (4) - move to 00:41:585 , adjust spacing using distance snap (Done)
00:41:938 (1) - finish (Done)
00:45:820 (3) - clap (Done)
00:54:997 (1) - finish (Done)
01:02:408 (4) - finish for this specific slider end (Done)
[Winber1's Normal]
why is the tick at 2? I THINK it should be at 1 (No need to change :3)
All done~!
Kirino Kousaka
No kd for this post pls.
In-game request for sawa's hard to be fixed. I did a few things to make it better, here's the changelog so you can undo things that you don't like. Sorry for being late because I was busy, you asked me to this like days ago...
Changelog:
  1. Updated it from my mod.
  2. Updated from OTO's mod.
  3. Got rid of all unsnapped notes
  4. 00:11:232 (6,7) - Added more symmetry.
  5. 00:31:879 (8,9) - Turned it into a slider.
  6. 00:39:467 (5,6,7,8) - Turned it into 2 sliders.
  7. 00:42:291 (1) - Made it start at 00:42:114.
  8. 00:56:408 (1) - Made it start at 00:56:232.
  9. 00:58:173 - Got rid of this break and put 2 hitcircles.
  10. 01:01:173 (6) - Added NC
  11. 00:32:232 - Set as preview point. Please be consistent with the other diffs. Make them all use this preview point, it's better.
That's all~ ...Maybe... for now.
Download: Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.) (MeowcenariesJP) [Sawa's Hard].osu
If you want me to make deeper changes you may go ahead and ask me again and I'll do what I can.

Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Updates Added, Changes made.
KuronumaSawako
Sorry for late...i Will look these mods sono
TsukiAnimeGirl
I saw your message, here we go:

Easy:

Go to the Timing tab and click on Resnap All Notes.
00:08:938 - I think you should put this circle at 00:08:761
00:21:820 - I think it would be better if you change the place of the slider #2 and circle #3.
00:29:585 - Extend the spinner to 00:32:585, remove the circle 1, put the slider at 00:33:114. Put another circle at 00:34:349.
00:35:408 - Move this slider to 00:35:232
00:40:879 - Move both circles #3 and #4, 2 snap before.

Hard: (Optional)

00:48:997 - I don't think this slider is good, too much sounds. You could put a circle at 00:49:349 instead.
01:02:055 - The same thing about these circles. You could remove them.

TNE (Optional)

00:05:673 - You should remove this circle, it gives an impression it's out of time.
00:34:349 - Make circles #6, #7 closer to each other.
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Easy:

Go to the Timing tab and click on Resnap All Notes.
00:08:938 - I think you should put this circle at 00:08:761
00:21:820 - I think it would be better if you change the place of the slider #2 and circle #3.
00:29:585 - Extend the spinner to 00:32:585, remove the circle 1, put the slider at 00:33:114. Put another circle at 00:34:349.
00:35:408 - Move this slider to 00:35:232
00:40:879 - Move both circles #3 and #4, 2 snap before.
Done.
banbar
[Easy]

Please unify DS 0.8x.

[Winder1's Normal]

00:50:408 (4) - 1grid up.

[Sawa's Hard]

00:17:585 (1,2,3) - it is very difficult in hard.
00:20:408 (6) - I think that it is good not to stack this.
00:26:761 (1) - distorted slider. more beautiful.
00:47:232 (4) - move (256.256).
00:47:585 (5) - Please make it symmetrical with 3.
00:51:644 (1,2) - over rap.
00:59:761 (1,2) - Distance is amusing.

[TNE]

Please make a slider beautiful all.
DS changes too much repeatedly.
00:57:820 (x) - end of Kiai mode

I am sorry to be poor at English.
Since I am an Mod beginner, please do not expect too much.
When these are corrected, I may do Mod again.
I'm behind you all the way!
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
[Easy]

Please unify DS 0.8x.

Winder1's Normal

00:50:408 (4) - 1grid up
Done.
into_old
Easy:

00:04:879 (2) - fix Spacing error to this exactly X:352 Y:200
That way prev:0.78x
And Next: 0.78x
Are exactly to those standards, i found it because AIMod could not.

Star Btw.
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Easy:

00:04:879 (2) - fix Spacing error to this exactly X:352 Y:200
That way prev:0.78x
And Next: 0.78x
Are exactly to those standards, i found it because AIMod could not
Fixed! Thanks into! I didn't see that :]
KuronumaSawako
no changes in my diff
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
alrighty.
NixXSkate
some nitpicks in IRC (mainly easy)
Topic Starter
Meowcenaries
Kudosu given, thanks for the Mod NixXSkate
Tsukasa
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