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Topic Starter
Did a quick IRC mod on the Easy.
SPOILER
12:13
12:25 <Garven> : Well, let me do a quick play through and give some general opinions
12:25 <Garven> : ..
12:25 <Garven> : You only did the Easy?
12:26 <Garven> : You really should contribute to your map set more than that. Especially when it's your first one. Otherwise you won't get much practice
12:26 <Garven> : in mapping.
12:26 <Garven> : Anyway
12:26 *Garven is playing (Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.))[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/45208] [Easy]
12:28 <Garven> : Are you aware of the concept of distance snap?
12:29 <MeowcenariesJP> : Yes.
12:29 <Garven> : There are a couple spots where it's broken pretty badly
12:30 <Garven> : but first
12:30 <Garven> : 00:04:879 (2,3) - I really recommend you have the 3 directly in line with the end point of the slider.
12:30 <Garven> : The timing is a little ambiguous because of the positioning right now, and you want an easy difficulty to be very very easy to ready.
12:30 <Garven> : read*
12:31 <Garven> : And a comment on the general design of the intro: all those straight lines are kind of ugly and don't really forma memorable pattern.
12:31 <Garven> : See if you can rearrange thing sso that it's more visually pleasing.
12:31 <Garven> : 00:10:879 (4,1) - Way too close
12:32 <Garven> : 00:33:114 (1) - This is wawy too soon after a spinner for an easy difficulty. Give the new players more time to readjust. I suggest
12:32 <Garven> : around 4 beats (white ticks)for this level of difficulty.
12:33 <Garven> : 00:44:408 (1) - Same here
12:33 <Garven> : Might be best to map through the spinner
12:33 <Garven> : 00:46:526 (4) - new combo
12:33 <Garven> : 00:52:173 (3) - new combo
12:34 <Garven> : 00:52:879 (4) - See if you can make this slider more visually appealling. Right now it's too sharp in th emiddle and not quite
12:34 <Garven> : symmetrical.Check out t/37194 for some tips
12:34 <Garven> : 00:58:526 (1) - Too soon after spinner
12:34 <Garven> : Anyway, you should focus on general presentation of the map for now. The rhythms feel okay, though the pace felt a little slow imo.
12:35 <Garven> : I need to head to bed though, so I'm hopping out. Good luck!
12:25 <Garven> : Well, let me do a quick play through and give some general opinions
12:25 <Garven> : ..
12:25 <Garven> : You only did the Easy?
12:26 <Garven> : You really should contribute to your map set more than that. Especially when it's your first one. Otherwise you won't get much practice
12:26 <Garven> : in mapping.
12:26 <Garven> : Anyway
12:26 *Garven is playing (Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.))[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/45208] [Easy]
12:28 <Garven> : Are you aware of the concept of distance snap?
12:29 <MeowcenariesJP> : Yes.
12:29 <Garven> : There are a couple spots where it's broken pretty badly
12:30 <Garven> : but first
12:30 <Garven> : 00:04:879 (2,3) - I really recommend you have the 3 directly in line with the end point of the slider.
12:30 <Garven> : The timing is a little ambiguous because of the positioning right now, and you want an easy difficulty to be very very easy to ready.
12:30 <Garven> : read*
12:31 <Garven> : And a comment on the general design of the intro: all those straight lines are kind of ugly and don't really forma memorable pattern.
12:31 <Garven> : See if you can rearrange thing sso that it's more visually pleasing.
12:31 <Garven> : 00:10:879 (4,1) - Way too close
12:32 <Garven> : 00:33:114 (1) - This is wawy too soon after a spinner for an easy difficulty. Give the new players more time to readjust. I suggest
12:32 <Garven> : around 4 beats (white ticks)for this level of difficulty.
12:33 <Garven> : 00:44:408 (1) - Same here
12:33 <Garven> : Might be best to map through the spinner
12:33 <Garven> : 00:46:526 (4) - new combo
12:33 <Garven> : 00:52:173 (3) - new combo
12:34 <Garven> : 00:52:879 (4) - See if you can make this slider more visually appealling. Right now it's too sharp in th emiddle and not quite
12:34 <Garven> : symmetrical.Check out t/37194 for some tips
12:34 <Garven> : 00:58:526 (1) - Too soon after spinner
12:34 <Garven> : Anyway, you should focus on general presentation of the map for now. The rhythms feel okay, though the pace felt a little slow imo.
12:35 <Garven> : I need to head to bed though, so I'm hopping out. Good luck!
Topic Starter
Thanks Garven-san. I'll do my best.
hi~
[Tsuka]
You'd better use distance snap x_x
00:00:997 (5) - add finish
00:03:291 (7) - delete NC
00:03:644 (1) - NC
00:05:585 (7) - NC
00:06:644 (2) - delete NC
00:08:408 (1) - Changing like this is more fit to the song http://puu.sh/wOyQ http://puu.sh/wOyK
00:23:585 (5) - add clap
00:25:349 (3) - Changing like this is more fit to the song http://puu.sh/wOBu
00:26:761 (1) - delete finish, also end it at 00:27:997
00:29:585 (1) - add finish
00:32:055 (13) - ^
00:33:467 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - these are really Confusing Players plz change to the other patterns
00:40:879 (3) - if you want to stack it, set the distance snap 0.0x and turn off the grid snap. and stack it
00:50:761 (5) - NC
00:57:467 (13) - add finish
01:02:408 (4) - ^
[Sawa's Hard]
00:01:350 (1) - NC
00:06:997 (1) - add finish
00:12:114 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern will confuse players who usually play hard diffs
00:17:938 (3) - add finish
00:19:702 (2,3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/wOJg this pattern looks better
00:31:702 (7) - add finish on tail
00:42:114 (1) - http://puu.sh/wOKv this is more fit to the song
00:56:232 (1) - http://puu.sh/wOLo this is more fit to song
[Winber1's Normal]
00:36:644 (5) - delete finish
00:47:938 (4) - ^
[Easy]
00:05:938 (3) - distance snap
00:08:408 (2,3) - these will confuse Newbies
00:18:291 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - i recommend put Claps in second white line only
00:54:997 (1) - add finish
[Tsuka]
You'd better use distance snap x_x
00:00:997 (5) - add finish
00:03:291 (7) - delete NC
00:03:644 (1) - NC
00:05:585 (7) - NC
00:06:644 (2) - delete NC
00:08:408 (1) - Changing like this is more fit to the song http://puu.sh/wOyQ http://puu.sh/wOyK
00:23:585 (5) - add clap
00:25:349 (3) - Changing like this is more fit to the song http://puu.sh/wOBu
00:26:761 (1) - delete finish, also end it at 00:27:997
00:29:585 (1) - add finish
00:32:055 (13) - ^
00:33:467 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - these are really Confusing Players plz change to the other patterns
00:40:879 (3) - if you want to stack it, set the distance snap 0.0x and turn off the grid snap. and stack it
00:50:761 (5) - NC
00:57:467 (13) - add finish
01:02:408 (4) - ^
[Sawa's Hard]
00:01:350 (1) - NC
00:06:997 (1) - add finish
00:12:114 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern will confuse players who usually play hard diffs
00:17:938 (3) - add finish
00:19:702 (2,3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/wOJg this pattern looks better
00:31:702 (7) - add finish on tail
00:42:114 (1) - http://puu.sh/wOKv this is more fit to the song
00:56:232 (1) - http://puu.sh/wOLo this is more fit to song
[Winber1's Normal]
00:36:644 (5) - delete finish
00:47:938 (4) - ^
[Easy]
00:05:938 (3) - distance snap
00:08:408 (2,3) - these will confuse Newbies
00:18:291 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - i recommend put Claps in second white line only
00:54:997 (1) - add finish
Topic Starter
[Winber1's Normal]Done.
00:36:644 (5) - delete finish
00:47:938 (4) - ^
[Easy]
00:05:938 (3) - distance snap
00:08:408 (2,3) - these will confuse Newbies
00:18:291 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - i recommend put Claps in second white line only
00:54:997 (1) - add finish
Download: Lucky Star Cast - Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.) (MeowcenariesJP) [Tsuka].osuReisen Udongein wrote:
hi~
[Tsuka]
You'd better use distance snap x_x *cough* jumps *cough*
00:00:997 (5) - add finish -- k
00:03:291 (7) - delete NC -- k
00:03:644 (1) - NC -- k
00:05:585 (7) - NC -- k
00:06:644 (2) - delete NC
00:08:408 (1) - Changing like this is more fit to the song http://puu.sh/wOyQ http://puu.sh/wOyK -- idk why i haven't done this... this is smart
00:23:585 (5) - add clap -- k
00:25:349 (3) - Changing like this is more fit to the song http://puu.sh/wOBu
00:26:761 (1) - delete finish, also end it at 00:27:997
00:29:585 (1) - add finish -- k
00:32:055 (13) - ^ -- k
00:33:467 (2,3,4,5,1,2) - these are really Confusing Players plz change to the other patterns
00:40:879 (3) - if you want to stack it, set the distance snap 0.0x and turn off the grid snap. and stack it -- the other slider's last point was just misplaced. but fixed
00:50:761 (5) - NC -- k
00:57:467 (13) - add finish -- k
01:02:408 (4) - ^ -- and k
you can change the finishes if you want. I think it's just easier for the both of us ._.
sorry for a late reply
sorry for a late reply
http://puu.sh/yrv9Reisen Udongein wrote:
[Sawa's Hard]
00:01:350 (1) - NC Ok
00:06:997 (1) - add finish Ok
00:12:114 (1,2,3,4) - this pattern will confuse players who usually play hard diffs I can pass this easily
00:17:938 (3) - add finish Ok
00:19:702 (2,3,4,5,6) - http://puu.sh/wOJg this pattern looks better No
00:31:702 (7) - add finish on tail Added clap, but finish sounds good too.
00:42:114 (1) - http://puu.sh/wOKv this is more fit to the song Ok
00:56:232 (1) - http://puu.sh/wOLo this is more fit to song No, Thank You!
Sorry for delay ><
Topic Starter
All Changes Added.
[Easy]
looks good
[Winber]
00:04:879 (2) - this might feel a little better if you made it so that this note and the one following it both fall along the same line that your cursor would draw if it just kept going in the same direction as it was following the previous note like this
00:08:938 (4) - the flow here might also be improved by the same method as mentioned above
[Sawa]
looks good
[tsuka]
I am going to abstain from posting any comments pertaining to this difficulty out of respect for the mapper.
looks good
[Winber]
00:04:879 (2) - this might feel a little better if you made it so that this note and the one following it both fall along the same line that your cursor would draw if it just kept going in the same direction as it was following the previous note like this
00:08:938 (4) - the flow here might also be improved by the same method as mentioned above
[Sawa]
looks good
[tsuka]
I am going to abstain from posting any comments pertaining to this difficulty out of respect for the mapper.
Topic Starter
Thank you, but i hope it's good qualitySaturos-fangirl wrote:
[Easy]
looks good Thanks you
[Winber]
00:04:879 (2) - this might feel a little better if you made it so that this note and the one following it both fall along the same line that your cursor would draw if it just kept going in the same direction as it was following the previous note like this Changed this
00:08:938 (4) - the flow here might also be improved by the same method as mentioned above Did not change.
[Sawa]
looks good Thanks you!
[tsuka]
I am going to abstain from posting any comments pertaining to this difficulty out of respect for the mapper.
Topic Starter
Changes added up to this point, Sorry about the mess up winber. I got the .osu file to work.
[General]
- Like the rest of the diff it's recommended to rename the diff into [Tsuka's Insane] (are you sure you are going to use "tsuka"? There's a mapper called tsuka and mapped a lot already...)
- In [tsuka] tag:
- slider tick rate 1 might sound better because there aren't really 1/2 drum beats in the music, and it's odd when the 1/2 slidertick is loud like Hard.
[Tsuka]
00:00:997 (5) - sounds like a clap more than a finish here
00:02:761 (5,6) - A suggestion here: making the same jump like (2,3) and maintain a reasonable spacing for (6,7). Try to put (5) at (240,224) and (6) at (144,232).
00:05:408 (6) - [Nazi] you can move this up 3 grids to complete a symmetrical figure and align with coming combo.
00:06:291 (1,1) - well I don't see the reason to NC these notes...
00:12:291 (10,1) - you can produce more variation than simply stacking, put these two notes so that (9,10,1,2) forms a 1/2 stream with equal spacing like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/350153
00:23:055 (3,4,5) - a bit confusing on the spacing, especially (3,4) is quite quick and it's hard to realize that (4,5) has larger timing separation.
Some good idea on the rhythm but the placement can be improved a lot, especially making reasonable jumps and spacing. The vocal phrasing is a good reference for the jumps.
[Hard]
00:16:349 (5) - placement mistake? left 1 grid
[Normal]
00:02:761 (3,4) - Try to unstack these two notes? In the rest of the song you didn't stacked but a stuiable spacing for 1/2 separation.
00:53:408 (4) - ^
01:01:349 - not recommended to use 1/2 sldiers with multiple reversing tick in a normal. Try a 1/1 slider + 3 tick slider here?
[Easy]
00:26:761 (2) - NC should be put here instead of last note.
when the notes are not so dense, clapping as a regular beat sounds too loud because there aren't notes nearby, and the effect is not so good imo.
good luck~
- Like the rest of the diff it's recommended to rename the diff into [Tsuka's Insane] (are you sure you are going to use "tsuka"? There's a mapper called tsuka and mapped a lot already...)
- In [tsuka] tag:
lucky star girls meow cast konata winber1 [tsukasa] kuronumasawakowhile the rest is
lucky star girls meow cast konata winber1 [tsukasa] kuronumasawakoThere's one more space after [tsukasa] in [tsuka].
- slider tick rate 1 might sound better because there aren't really 1/2 drum beats in the music, and it's odd when the 1/2 slidertick is loud like Hard.
[Tsuka]
00:00:997 (5) - sounds like a clap more than a finish here
00:02:761 (5,6) - A suggestion here: making the same jump like (2,3) and maintain a reasonable spacing for (6,7). Try to put (5) at (240,224) and (6) at (144,232).
00:05:408 (6) - [Nazi] you can move this up 3 grids to complete a symmetrical figure and align with coming combo.
00:06:291 (1,1) - well I don't see the reason to NC these notes...
00:12:291 (10,1) - you can produce more variation than simply stacking, put these two notes so that (9,10,1,2) forms a 1/2 stream with equal spacing like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/350153
00:23:055 (3,4,5) - a bit confusing on the spacing, especially (3,4) is quite quick and it's hard to realize that (4,5) has larger timing separation.
Some good idea on the rhythm but the placement can be improved a lot, especially making reasonable jumps and spacing. The vocal phrasing is a good reference for the jumps.
[Hard]
00:16:349 (5) - placement mistake? left 1 grid
[Normal]
00:02:761 (3,4) - Try to unstack these two notes? In the rest of the song you didn't stacked but a stuiable spacing for 1/2 separation.
00:53:408 (4) - ^
01:01:349 - not recommended to use 1/2 sldiers with multiple reversing tick in a normal. Try a 1/1 slider + 3 tick slider here?
[Easy]
00:26:761 (2) - NC should be put here instead of last note.
when the notes are not so dense, clapping as a regular beat sounds too loud because there aren't notes nearby, and the effect is not so good imo.
good luck~
ok
just replace everything in my .osu file with the above.
SPOILER
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Artist:Lucky Star Cast
Creator:Meowcenaries
Version:Winber1's Normal
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just replace everything in my .osu file with the above.
ok
just replace everything in my .osu file with the above.
SPOILER
osu file format v9
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Title:Nande Dattakke Idol (Short Ver.)
Artist:Lucky Star Cast
Creator:Meowcenaries
Version:Winber1's Normal
Source:Lucky Star
Tags:lucky star girls meow cast konata winber1 [tsukasa] kuronumasawako
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just replace everything in my .osu file with the above.
http://puu.sh/DW0gwmfchris wrote:
[Hard]
00:16:349 (5) - placement mistake? left 1 grid Fixed
OK i don't have puush now http://www.mediafire.com/?jj1k59wa49u8wcjwmfchris wrote:
[General]
[Tsuka]
00:00:997 (5) - sounds like a clap more than a finish here <-- i would like to keep it as is for now
00:02:761 (5,6) - A suggestion here: making the same jump like (2,3) and maintain a reasonable spacing for (6,7). Try to put (5) at (240,224) and (6) at (144,232).
00:05:408 (6) - [Nazi] you can move this up 3 grids to complete a symmetrical figure and align with coming combo. <-- yeah never noticed...
00:06:291 (1,1) - well I don't see the reason to NC these notes... <-- removed
00:12:291 (10,1) - you can produce more variation than simply stacking, put these two notes so that (9,10,1,2) forms a 1/2 stream with equal spacing like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/350153
00:23:055 (3,4,5) - a bit confusing on the spacing, especially (3,4) is quite quick and it's hard to realize that (4,5) has larger timing separation.
Some good idea on the rhythm but the placement can be improved a lot, especially making reasonable jumps and spacing. The vocal phrasing is a good reference for the jumps.
Topic Starter
Most changes updated.
Topic Starter
-cracks knuckles- Gotta really start mapping this again!
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