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Modding post for Yoshioka Aika - Izayoi Namida [CTB insane]

ZHSteven wrote:

Yes actually this is a good example of showing that easy CTB diff cannot convert well from standard.
We can see there is a lot of unexpected spacing change which plays well in CTB but stupid in standard.
I totally agree with Steven.

ZHSteven wrote:

things need to consider and discuss:
1.
00:54:118 (1,1) - I think using 2 spinner together is not good for CTB. Because in today's OSU, spinner is no longer consider as a new combo. That will make the fruit in 1st spinner cannot drop like new combo when doing the 2nd spinner. At the end, if the spinner is long, we will see a looooooooot of fruit inside the plate, causing system lag.. (This has been already fixed)

2.
01:06:676 (7,8,9,10,11) - I dont know whether we can use 1/8 like this. Moving 1/8 in CTB is not a good idea. It needs very accurate spacing. So shall we just discuss about it? (I agree with using this pattern, but TBH it doesn't fit in that part of the song. Same as 01:08:536 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11). CTB's not a pure rhythm game, but overmapping some parts isn't really appropiate though)
Apart from that:

AR-1: 9 fits better with patterns that are hard to read in a short space of time, and tbh this song isn't a WTFISTHISJUMP one. Anyway, this song begs for AR8.

00:08:769 (1,1) - It's possible to put some notes between the spinner and the slider. I've already tried and it's not hard to hit imo.
01:01:094 (5) - A slider-stream doesn't fit well here.
01:18:304 (1) - I'd add a note here, and begin that spinner in 01:18:536.

The rest is fine, there's no need to modify that much a sweet map ^^
Shiro

Deif wrote:

Modding post for Yoshioka Aika - Izayoi Namida [CTB insane]

AR-1: 9 fits better with patterns that are hard to read in a short space of time, and tbh this song isn't a WTFISTHISJUMP one. Anyway, this song begs for AR8. aaaa I'm stupid, I had put AR9 for testing purposes and forgot to put it back to 8 <_>

00:08:769 (1,1) - It's possible to put some notes between the spinner and the slider. I've already tried and it's not hard to hit imo. I'll just extend the spinner by 1/2. Even in standard I hate post-spinner notes.
01:01:094 (5) - A slider-stream doesn't fit well here. changed to triple
01:18:304 (1) - I'd add a note here, and begin that spinner in 01:18:536. okay

The rest is fine, there's no need to modify that much a sweet map ^^
Thanks.
My point when making this map was to prove that some things that play well in CtB are terrible in standards (these 1/4 jumps) and that it's possible to make enjoyable "easy" CtB diffs (I can pass it myself so yeah it's pretty easy but still kinda challenging).

modified diff
osu file format v9

[General]
AudioFilename: Hakuouki Shinsengumi Kitan Opening Song Full.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1000
PreviewTime: 10886
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 2
LetterboxInBreaks: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 156447
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16

[Metadata]
Title:Izayoi Namida
Artist:Yoshioka Aika
Creator:Odaril
Version:CtB Insane
Source:Hakuouki
Tags:opening op Shinsengumi Kitan

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:6
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:2.4
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"Insane.jpg"
//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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Mercurial
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/45135

That map is modded :3
Topic Starter
Deif
Unlucky Morpheus x AQUAELIE - Witch's Carnival [CTB]

My 1st non-collab CTB map. 60% done, and no hitsounds yet. Feel free to flame :3
Mercurial
Deif, update the thread, I have 2 mods.
Topic Starter
Deif
Done. BTW, a "CTB player, modder & mapper" is required :3
Mercurial
Userbar you mean?
Topic Starter
Deif

iMercurial wrote:

Userbar you mean?
SPOILER
A buen entendedor, pocas palabras bastan xD
Yeah, my bad :p
Mercurial
No problem.

Also, I'm making my first CtB map, I've mapped around 10 seconds and I'll continue in this week :3

DJ YOSHITAKA - Elisha

o/


Userbar Here :3

eldnl
I think we must make a collab for a pending song and show it to peppy.
ZHSteven
making a collab is hard.
I think we need to send PM to peppy together including some of the representative maps.
Shiro
I got some new in that aspect. No need for a collab. You guys need to make a good CtB diff on a map that goes for rank. Then get that map bubbled. Then I can rank it.
This is a test. I'll be responsible for all CtB diffs from that point.
Topic Starter
Deif
Now let's see if any mapper wants to take the "risk" of including a CTB diff in his mapset :p
ZHSteven
Question:
Odaril, can you help me send one of my current WIP map to graveyard? I have reached the submission cap ...
Now I cannot resurrect my map...
Thank you~
Shiro

ZHSteven wrote:

Question:
Odaril, can you help me send one of my current WIP map to graveyard? I have reached the submission cap ...
Now I cannot resurrect my map...
Thank you~
I can at best lock the thread to make sure the map goes to graveyard. I can't graveyard maps on request.
ZHSteven
Ok nevermind.. then I have to wait 2 weeks..TAT
Mercurial

Deif wrote:

Now let's see if any mapper wants to take the "risk" of including a CTB diff in his mapset :p
Deif, do you wanna make a ctb diff for my Super Meat Boy Map? :3
Kurai

Odaril wrote:

Then get that map bubbled.
I can help if needed \:D/
Topic Starter
Deif

Kurai wrote:

Odaril wrote:

Then get that map bubbled.
I can help if needed \:D/
Then, I'll finish my map with the CTB diff and I'll submit it wwww

@iMercurial: I'm already working on your map.
Drafura
Hmm I've notice the url of these userbars are really laggy :

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4778/ubd4455l.png :



http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2748/ubd9635.png :


You should upload it on puush or something they take a really long time to load.
Mercurial







Ready :3

Deif wrote:

@iMercurial: I'm already working on your map.
Thank you Deif ♥
Drafura
Thank you Mercu
Mercurial
No problem, always helping our community as I can n.n
Topic Starter
Deif
More stuff to mod: dB soundworks - It Ends (Cut Version) [Deif's CTB]

Aiming for ranking >_<

Edit: Valetine has submitted another diff of his map, you should check it out as well.
Mercurial
I dunno if I have to post it or not... but well.

Odaril has gave the timing on a CtB map.

viewtopic.php?p=1356094#p1356094 <- Thread.


Anyway...

@Deif: Your diff could be "Deif's Catch the Meat"... so change the diff name (More funny, huh?) :)
ZHSteven

Deif wrote:

More stuff to mod: dB soundworks - It Ends (Cut Version) [Deif's CTB]

Aiming for ranking >_<

Edit: Valetine has submitted another diff of his map, you should check it out as well.
I am in airport now -.-
Will go mod it when I back home~XD
Shiro

iMercurial wrote:

I dunno if I have to post it or not... but well.

Odaril has gave the timing on a CtB map.

viewtopic.php?p=1356094#p1356094 <- Thread.


Anyway...
not sure why you'd need to post it o.o I've timed lots of maps over the last few days
Topic Starter
Deif
The point of this thread is making a compilation of CTB mods/maps, so there's no need to add that one to the list. Plus, that map wasn't even posted here.
Mercurial
Okay.
Shiro
I think it'd be better to only link to the finishes and modded ones, so players have an idea of "quality" maps.
Topic Starter
Deif
Updated OP post as suggested.
CLSW
viewtopic.php?p=1336196#p1336196

\:D/

This will go approval.
ZHSteven
mod for the 2 new map done.
Rey Fullbuster
i dunno how to map

please mod mine

http://puu.sh/iSfl

the song still in rar and you must extract it and move the file to the song folder
Topic Starter
Deif

r3yn41d0 wrote:

i dunno how to map

please mod mine

http://puu.sh/iSfl

the song still in rar and you must extract it and move the file to the song folder
First of all, the map is only 4 seconds long, and it cannot be added yet to the queue.

And... if you're using the same mp3 file as this map, you must use BPM 173 and offset 140. The current timing is wrong.

Next time try to upload your finished map in a osz file to make downloads easier for modders.
Rey Fullbuster

Deif wrote:

r3yn41d0 wrote:

i dunno how to map

please mod mine

http://puu.sh/iSfl

the song still in rar and you must extract it and move the file to the song folder
First of all, the map is only 4 seconds long, and it cannot be added yet to the queue.

And... if you're using the same mp3 file as this map, you must use BPM 173 and offset 140. The current timing is wrong.

Next time try to upload your finished map in a osz file to make downloads easier for modders.
ok i dunno how to map :(
CLSW
ok i dunno how to map :(
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/faq

Go there and carefully read editing tab.


Plus, Still neu CTB wasn't full uploaded, so plz mod the map after he updates the map.

edit : Done :D
ZHSteven
KOTOKO- wing my way

My first map, also my best ctb map(I think).

Ready for mod now~

Also, standard and taiko mod a highly welcome~

Thanks~
Shiro
Rename Hard+ to Insane and Normal+ to Hard.
I'm not modding this if you don't do that.

Any difficulty name that ends with a + is retarded.
ZHSteven

Odaril wrote:

Rename Hard+ to Insane and Normal+ to Hard.
I'm not modding this if you don't do that.

Any difficulty name that ends with a + is retarded.
Done... and renamed easy to normal.
CLSW
Still wait for modding.

ZHSteven moded my map ofc, but that was not completed version, so I'll re-request with this full ver.

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40995
ZHSteven

CLSW wrote:

Still wait for modding.

ZHSteven moded my map ofc, but that was not completed version, so I'll re-request with this full ver.

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40995
I think ask spectator find some other modder for standard and taiko diff first. (we know that app map is hard to get mod.. better start it as early as possible ..)
recently I dont have much time on osu... I will mod it when I can login.. thanks
DaxMasterix
Add me to mappers (? ...
I will Sub the map very soon.. i think..
Shiirn
CassiopeiA

Possibly the first map to get ranked, so mods are very important. Several, if necessary.
Drafura

Shiirn wrote:

CassiopeiA

Possibly the first map to get ranked, so mods are very important. Several, if necessary.
Done, and done (http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39256)
Topic Starter
Deif
Modded CassiopeiA as well!
Serval
Hey guys !


Kraster - Remember History (Short Ver.)

A little mod on the CTB diff would be appreciated ! :D

Thanks !
Topic Starter
Deif
I'm adding this by now, to get tested. Hitsounds are still WIP, but the hitobjects are all finished.

Original map: Rita - Hajimari no Toki

I'll edit this post as soon as it gets 100% finished.

EDIT: Seems like the one I put before wasn't finished yet. It should be fixed now.

EDIT2: It's uploaded via BSS. It'll be a part of Serval's project: Rita - Hajimari no Toki [Deif's CTB Insane]

Download: Rita - Hajimari no Toki (NatsumeRin) [CTB Insane].osu
ZHSteven

Serval wrote:

Hey guys !


Kraster - Remember History (Short Ver.)

A little mod on the CTB diff would be appreciated ! :D

Thanks !
moding done.
And also,
@Deif :do I need to do sth to that mapset?
Drafura
Topic Starter
Deif

Drafura wrote:

Kraster - Remember History (Short Ver.)

Modded.
Me too!

ZHSteven wrote:

@Deif :do I need to do sth to that mapset?
You may ask Serval, as he's the project leader. I've just made a guest diff.
CLSW
p/1424029

the map wasn't updated, so plz dl the attachment file and mod~
Devil Cosmo
I'm need assistance for this ctb map

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36946 <-- that's the full map link. the CTB diff is already uploaded. :D
Topic Starter
Deif
Adding this one as well. It's aiming for ranking, so every mod will be welcome: p/1426724#p1426724
ZHSteven

Devil_Cosmo wrote:

I'm need assistance for this ctb map

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36946 <-- that's the full map link. the CTB diff is already uploaded. :D
as the name of that is “for fun only", I just wonder is that aiming for rank?

And also @CLSW, the map itself doesn't seems like for ranking.. So do I need to mod it in ranking style or just for fun map?
Devil Cosmo

ZHSteven wrote:

Devil_Cosmo wrote:

I'm need assistance for this ctb map

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36946 <-- that's the full map link. the CTB diff is already uploaded. :D
as the name of that is “for fun only", I just wonder is that aiming for rank?

And also @CLSW, the map itself doesn't seems like for ranking.. So do I need to mod it in ranking style or just for fun map?
oh. it's for ranked.
but i'm confused about the diff name. so that's why i used that name x(
Serval

ZHSteven wrote:

Devil_Cosmo wrote:

I'm need assistance for this ctb map

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36946 <-- that's the full map link. the CTB diff is already uploaded. :D
as the name of that is “for fun only", I just wonder is that aiming for rank?
I've done a tiny mod on it ! Well, more advices than a real mod... I think it still need more work before there's can be a real mod on it ! But some advices could still help to progress !
ZHSteven

Devil_Cosmo wrote:

oh. it's for ranked.
but i'm confused about the diff name. so that's why i used that name x(
Ok Nvm, I will mod it in ranking style.
CLSW

ZHSteven wrote:

And also @CLSW, the map itself doesn't seems like for ranking.. So do I need to mod it in ranking style or just for fun map?

No. It's for rank, and some unrankable patterns will fixed soon.
Kurokami
I want this ctb diff (and also the whole map) to be ranked.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/46843
I hope I posted it correctly with HD+FL. lol
Shiirn

Deif wrote:

Adding this one as well. It's aiming for ranking, so every mod will be welcome: p/1426724#p1426724

Bumping this post because I'm an impatient bastard.
eldnl
I'll mod them just wait :3
Mercurial
I'm a Lazy Bastard.

I'm in a mapping/modding trance... so I'll mod some maps in my own accord.
Topic Starter
Deif
Removing this one: 07th Expansion - miragecoordinator [CTB]

It doesn't have a CTB diff anymore.
J o J o
Hi! Try my map :3
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/47034
Summertime - Nightcore mix [sea, Sex, Sun and CTB]
Serval

Shiirn wrote:

Deif wrote:

Adding this one as well. It's aiming for ranking, so every mod will be welcome: p/1426724#p1426724

Bumping this post because I'm an impatient bastard.
I've modded the Deif's CTB diff for you, "impatient bastard" :D

Also modded Kanako Itou - Find the Blue (Short Ver.)
Drafura
sakuzyo - Laplace

Modded.

Btw I've noticed the Serval's map has the wrong url, here's the good one : http://osu.ppy.sh/b/147756&m=2
Topic Starter
Deif
Congratulations to Serval, for nuking the rule and made this dream possible
Serval
Thank you, but I would like to congratulate Odaril and Shiirn, I think it wouldn't have been possible to get the CTB diffs rankable without their involvement in the CTB rules thread
Mercurial
I'm here to say....

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEY!

Topic Starter
Deif
Updated OP post with new maps and fixed that broken link as well.
Drafura
oO My map isn't pending at all. It's here only to give modding materials. Well, I know Odaril is making standard diffs of this song maybe i'll integrate his mapset. But nothing is planned yet. Can you move it to unfinished or create another category for this kind of map ?
Serval
I told him to create : Ranked, Pending, WIP, Graveyarded/for fun/wtv but he didn't listen to me :(
Drafura

Serval wrote:

I told him to create : Ranked, Pending, WIP, Graveyarded/for fun/wtv but he didn't listen to me :(
/me slap Deif*
Topic Starter
Deif
I hope you're happy, ponies D:

/me slaps Serval for not adding Ara Potato - Skype x Can Can [CTB Collab]

(Included in Pending)
Kurai
Hey, here's a new CtB diff ~
Miyamura Yuuko - It's Only the Fairy Tale
I'll be glad to get some mods on it :3
bossandy
Hello ! Deif ~~
I think I can join this queue to help some CTB diff ( because i am a CTB player , although I an noob xDD )
I will try to map my first CTB diff on my map :D
Topic Starter
Deif
I can't believe I just finished it!!! /me faints

p/1466198 - Hatsune Miku - SPiCa x Melt

It'll be uploaded soon!

bossandy wrote:

Hello ! Deif ~~
I think I can join this queue to help some CTB diff ( because i am a CTB player , although I an noob xDD )
I will try to map my first CTB diff on my map :D
You can either join by modding some maps of the queue, or mapping your own CTB diff \:D/
ursa
Need modding for unranked CTB diff :(

the CTB diff :
http://puu.sh/pT4W

the beatmap thread
t/75461
Topic Starter
Deif

urs4chan wrote:

Need modding for unranked CTB diff :(

the CTB diff :
http://puu.sh/pT4W

the beatmap thread
t/75461
Um? Why don't you include it in his/her mapset? o.o
ursa

Deif wrote:

urs4chan wrote:

Need modding for unranked CTB diff :(

the CTB diff :
http://puu.sh/pT4W

the beatmap thread
t/75461
Um? Why don't you include it in his/her mapset? o.o
*i'm requesting to put in his/her mapset , also i've just completed created the beatmap short time ago ; _ ;
ZHSteven
bump.
modded kurai's one.
and also.
someone mod my Wing my way ><! it is in CTB pending since last month...
Thanks in advance~
arien666
7!! - Lovers (TV Size)

Only for [Bakaneurane's Catch Hard] diff :3



meow :3
Topic Starter
Deif

ZHSteven wrote:

someone mod my Wing my way ><! it is in CTB pending since last month...
About Wing my Way, it was one of the first CTB maps I've ever tried (I'm talking about 2 years ago) so I consider it as a "classic" one, and yeah... a masterpiece I've played it around 250-300 times. That's why I was afraid of screwing that map, and so be hated by many old-school players ^^'

Just a question before modding it (I'll do it on Tue-Wed): Do you wanna keep it as a challenge map (CS5), or as an easier-to-rank one (CS4)?

If you choose the 2nd option, save it as a new difficulty and include [Hell-Jumping CTB] in an external link. Many people will thank you:


@arken: woof!

EDIT: Added uranechan as the creator of that CTB diff but... he/she joined a week ago? o_O

arien666

Deif wrote:

@arken: woof!

EDIT: Added uranechan as the creator of that CTB diff but... he/she joined a week ago? o_O

He's just baka :3

He just wants to make game like CtB so he is training his mapping skill :3
Although multi-fruit is not allowed, he would try to do his best :3
Krisom
Hello,

Spica x Melt

Deif mapped an adorable CTB diff for this map. I'd like some feedback on it from other CtB mappers before asking for a MAT mod, just to make sure everything is allrighty ~ (most likely it's perfect though).

Thanks a lot for your assistance.
ZHSteven

Deif wrote:

About Wing my Way, it was one of the first CTB maps I've ever tried (I'm talking about 2 years ago) so I consider it as a "classic" one, and yeah... a masterpiece I've played it around 250-300 times. That's why I was afraid of screwing that map, and so be hated by many old-school players ^^'

Just a question before modding it (I'll do it on Tue-Wed): Do you wanna keep it as a challenge map (CS5), or as an easier-to-rank one (CS4)?

If you choose the 2nd option, save it as a new difficulty and include [Hell-Jumping CTB] in an external link. Many people will thank you:

Wow Great job~
I have heard that the best play is 3 misses with 500+combo by Darksoul at 2010.. maybe the player now can FC it already? I don't know lol
About CS, I think I will keep CS5, beacuse some of the max jump is based on CS5.
And dont worry, I will always keep the original version of this map, no matter it is finally rank or not.
Thanks~


@ Deif : modding done~
Topic Starter
Deif
Steven's Hell-Jumping is finally modded, trying to keep a challenge, but still a FCable map.
Serval
Hatsune Miku - SPiCa x Melt modded.

I'll probably mod other maps tonight (x Can Can, It's only the fairy tale and Urenachan's map) and will have a long discussion with urs4chan about his map :p
Topic Starter
Deif
CassiopeiA has been ranked, but Steven's diff wasn't there... what's going on?
Spectator
Hitomi May
Hello! Please mod CTB dif in this map :o
It's my first map with ctb dif and I'm scared ;_;
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/49182
Silent Hill ^^
Topic Starter
Deif
Reminder to modders:

The following maps need extra attention.

Not modded yet:
  1. Akira Yamaoka - True [Starry's Catch The Truth]
Modded only once:
  1. 7!! - Lovers (TV Size) [urane's Catch hard]
  2. Ara Potato - Skype x Can Can [CTB Collab]
  3. Kanako Itou - Find the Blue (Short Ver.) [Di-CTB]
  4. KOTOKO - Wing my Way [Hell-Jumping CTB]
  5. Shounen Radio - neu (Long Version) [CLSWTB Extra]
Birdy
Bookmarked and subscribed, seriously I should help with modding these.

Also requests via in-game direct messages and site's private messages are allowed for me, so don't be shy~
Starry_old
:? I want to help mod some CTB diffs if possible. ;)
Serval

Deif wrote:

Reminder to modders:

The following maps need extra attention.

Not modded yet:
  1. Akira Yamaoka - True [Starry's Catch The Truth]Will mod it laters, focusing on "near ranked map" for now
Modded only once:
  1. 7!! - Lovers (TV Size) [urane's Catch hard]I'll mod it in the week
  2. Ara Potato - Skype x Can Can [CTB Collab]I'll mod it in the week
  3. Kanako Itou - Find the Blue (Short Ver.) [Di-CTB]Waiting for some change, the mapper contacted me IG and I give him more advices two days ago for timeline
  4. KOTOKO - Wing my Way [Hell-Jumping CTB]>w< Not sure it's a good idea for me to mod it :p you should ask Draf
  5. Shounen Radio - neu (Long Version) [CLSWTB Extra]>w< I'll mod it later, cause 5:45 is looooong to mod
Drafura
New map to mod : Xelia (Archlade) - Illumiscape

Deif wrote:

Reminder to modders:

The following maps need extra attention.

Not modded yet:
  1. Akira Yamaoka - True [Starry's Catch The Truth]
Modded only once:
  1. 7!! - Lovers (TV Size) [urane's Catch hard]
  2. Ara Potato - Skype x Can Can [CTB Collab]
  3. Kanako Itou - Find the Blue (Short Ver.) [Di-CTB]
  4. KOTOKO - Wing my Way [Hell-Jumping CTB]
  5. Shounen Radio - neu (Long Version) [CLSWTB Extra]
Going to mod all asap.
Faust
That Akira Yamaoka map isn't bad.

It's not focused solely on silly JUMPJUMPJUMP movements that is.
Serval

Faust wrote:

That Akira Yamaoka map isn't bad.

It's not focused solely on silly JUMPJUMPJUMP movements that is.

Get back to AR6 dude, tia.


Also, the map you linked as a "not solely focused on silly jump" has the silliest jumps ever. Bugged jumps. Those one are not the worse bugged jumps cause, you can catch them. But still, it's a pattern that doesn't follow rules. But I guess since it's AR8, you can read it so you're happy.

It's probably not the greatest CTB Diff ever. But I know a lot of good players who love it.

Maybe you're a too old CTB player to appreciate the new maps like that?...
Faust
I felt the pace of the map was appropriate, sure the spacing was perhaps a tad large, but it wasn't excessive to the point of trying too hard to make it feel just "jumpy".

It's especially hard to have much ground-level standards for CtB especially when you try to map for the specific mode solely.
I honestly feel the usual conversion from osu! standard to CtB mode is already all that is needed, so when I go see some CtB maps that just look like they're just made to test how fast I can press my shift button/reflexes it simply downs the whole experience.

I wouldn't use a word such as "terrible" to describe them though, because I realize it's not quite easy. How they play isn't really the issue.

What are we to look for in a "CtB" diff?
What are you looking forward to play?
Surely we have more flexibility in the manipulation of spacing in regards to particular song.

My liking of that map has absolutely nothing to do with me being an older generation player, by the way. I'm not offended or anything.
I myself am a mapper, not to mention I also mod.

Discussion is welcome.
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