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Osu is not updated for so long >.>
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or around once a month for public releasesmore like once a year
We first have to take care of the bugs that happen with the new features on the test version before going public.
Become a supporter and check out the test build >_>
oh lot of new things coming out when they are ready. Would you rather have things running smoothly or buggy stuff?
oh lot of new things coming out when they are ready. Would you rather have things running smoothly or buggy stuff?
WVSagi
Cheer-no
I'd rather work on a product that actually is designed to make money, like stream.
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what the point to pay for osu supporter to test new feature on osu test build if they are never publiced at normal osu build?Weezy wrote:
Become a supporter and check out the test build >_>
oh lot of new things coming out when they are ready. Would you rather have things running smoothly or buggy stuff?
I said, the app, not the web >.>Piotrekol wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/changelog
then what's took it so long? like billy said, almost once in a year >.>Sakura Hana wrote:
We first have to take care of the bugs that happen with the new features on the test version before going public.
osu is not money maker then? well, many people pay for osu supporter, is it not money maker?ziin wrote:
I'd rather work on a product that actually is designed to make money, like stream.
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then why osu is not updating it self? it seems, it just for test build >.>
Then, it must be clear that the copyright should be on 2012 now if they update the app.
Then, it must be clear that the copyright should be on 2012 now if they update the app.
It will be out soon be patient, its called a test build for a reason!!Miya wrote:
what the point to pay for osu supporter to test new feature on osu test build if they are never publiced at normal osu build?Weezy wrote:
Become a supporter and check out the test build >_>
oh lot of new things coming out when they are ready. Would you rather have things running smoothly or buggy stuff?
All money goes towards improving osu, its a donation to help the game outMiya wrote:
osu is not money maker then? well, many people pay for osu supporter, is it not money maker?ziin wrote:
I'd rather work on a product that actually is designed to make money, like stream.
The longer it takes, the bigger the update is, and also the bigger the problems that may result from it, which is why we want to give you guys a working update rather than a broken one.Miya wrote:
then what's took it so long? like billy said, almost once in a year >.>Sakura Hana wrote:
We first have to take care of the bugs that happen with the new features on the test version before going public.
peppy has acknowledged the fact that the public build is over a year old and just hive him some time -w- I'm sure the next update will happen around the same time as osz2
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agree with billy here. Instead of bigger update, why not making a smaller update each month?
And why there are no announcement about update is comming soon? >.>
And why there are no announcement about update is comming soon? >.>
Now about that i have no idea xD but if you check Test Build you'll notice there's osz2 there (and a lot of other bug fixes/new stuff added)Miya wrote:
agree with billy here. Instead of bigger update, why not making a smaller update each month?
And why there are no announcement about update is comming soon? >.>
osz2 is too big of an update to be split into "smaller" public builds, and unfortunately since it's already partially rolled out, we can't just drop it. :p
Rena-chan
Yuuuup, that's about right.jjrocks wrote:
peppy has acknowledged the fact that the public build is over a year old and just hive him some time -w- I'm sure the next update will happen around the same time as osz2
osz2 is still in a rather buggy state though, so it'll probably be a while. At least, it is in the public test build. I don't know how much is fixed in the most current build that our dearly beloved developers have.
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so tiring, everyone just talk to me to use test build. Hey, my supporter tag is gone guys, i can't use test build 
It's just too long, update for a game in once a year is just too long >.>
At least make an announcement in osu home page there will be an update soon, so it's like osu is not abandonded by the developer
At the announcement, list the feature of upcoming release, so player can known and prepare for the next release
It's just too long, update for a game in once a year is just too long >.>
At least make an announcement in osu home page there will be an update soon, so it's like osu is not abandonded by the developer
At the announcement, list the feature of upcoming release, so player can known and prepare for the next release
Then, i guess all the money from osu is just for paying the server cost? Why the game itself is not improving for a long time? >.>Weezy wrote:
All money goes towards improving osu, its a donation to help the game out
One big update is more exciting than smaller ones. Remember the update when the background changed from pink to blue? It felt like it was rewritten.
Firstly, I am obviously not happy about the lack of public updates, and apologise for this. The fact of the matter is, pushing changes out now without bringing osz2 into play will take more time than it is worth, as we are close to being ready to have that implemented too. Let me address your concerns, though:
"Smaller updates are better than larger ones"
I agree with this, and will aim to make this happen again once we are over this hump.
"I paid to support osu! development"
You donated with no strings attached. I already spend a hell of a lot of time just keeping the game running. You really don't understand how much goes into keeping a game of this size operational, let alone improving and adding new stuff. My time is already saturated. Also please don't suggest I hire or recruit help in response to this; that is another completely separate issue which I'm not going to discuss here.
"Why is there no announcement?"
What is the point of announcing something before it is finalised? The changelog shows you what is going on, so you are free to read that in the meantime.
"The copyright date hasn't changed"
This doesn't really change anything. It's more there for show. Copyrights don't just "invalidate" because they have a year next to them.
"One a month for public releases? More like a year."
This kind of comment hurts me. Obviously you were not around when updates were more regular, but if you would prefer, please take an opportunity to try out the test build. It gets frequent updates.
Keep a watch on the changelog, please. There are far more changes than just "web" ones, and although they may not mean much due to the technical level of them, stuff is going on. There are also a lot of changes which are hidden from the changelog due to the nature of the content (changes and fixes that best not be made public).
Also keep in mind I'm putting a lot of my time into osu!stream as well. I won't abandon osu!, but I also have to spread my time to make sure everything gets a chance. And right now stream needs more support than osu!. osu! is running smoothly and while there are some bugs, there is nothing *major*. The majority of people are enjoying it the way it is and will continue to do so.
Remember that at the end of the day the osu! development team is 1-3 people, depending on the day/week/month.
And at the end of the day, please have some trust that I will make sure osu! gets better going forward. Just need a bit more time to get things rolling again.
"Smaller updates are better than larger ones"
I agree with this, and will aim to make this happen again once we are over this hump.
"I paid to support osu! development"
You donated with no strings attached. I already spend a hell of a lot of time just keeping the game running. You really don't understand how much goes into keeping a game of this size operational, let alone improving and adding new stuff. My time is already saturated. Also please don't suggest I hire or recruit help in response to this; that is another completely separate issue which I'm not going to discuss here.
"Why is there no announcement?"
What is the point of announcing something before it is finalised? The changelog shows you what is going on, so you are free to read that in the meantime.
"The copyright date hasn't changed"
This doesn't really change anything. It's more there for show. Copyrights don't just "invalidate" because they have a year next to them.
"One a month for public releases? More like a year."
This kind of comment hurts me. Obviously you were not around when updates were more regular, but if you would prefer, please take an opportunity to try out the test build. It gets frequent updates.
Keep a watch on the changelog, please. There are far more changes than just "web" ones, and although they may not mean much due to the technical level of them, stuff is going on. There are also a lot of changes which are hidden from the changelog due to the nature of the content (changes and fixes that best not be made public).
Also keep in mind I'm putting a lot of my time into osu!stream as well. I won't abandon osu!, but I also have to spread my time to make sure everything gets a chance. And right now stream needs more support than osu!. osu! is running smoothly and while there are some bugs, there is nothing *major*. The majority of people are enjoying it the way it is and will continue to do so.
Remember that at the end of the day the osu! development team is 1-3 people, depending on the day/week/month.
And at the end of the day, please have some trust that I will make sure osu! gets better going forward. Just need a bit more time to get things rolling again.
What for if they list all changes (fixes/adds) on Changelog? Just stop to complain, go there and read.Miya wrote:
At least make an announcement in osu home page there will be an update soon, so it's like osu is not abandonded by the developer
edit: Ninja'd by peppy.
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Meh, the changelog is really hidden and doesn't notify me is something really out. >.>
Also, why the osu is not updating itslef if something new coming up from the changelog? It seems it just for the test build.
Well, glad to see peppy reply this.
Sorry if there's anything hurt you. I just want to talk about my opnion >.<
Also, why the osu is not updating itslef if something new coming up from the changelog? It seems it just for the test build.
Well, glad to see peppy reply this.
Sorry if there's anything hurt you. I just want to talk about my opnion >.<
It is just for the test build. Please read my post again — specifically the part about everything hinging on osz2, which is not yet stable to be released yet.
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so, when you're going to release it to normal build?
Please read my previous post.
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when? you're not mention any date, month or year >.>
peppy wrote:
The fact of the matter is, pushing changes out now without bringing osz2 into play will take more time than it is worth, as we are close to being ready to have that implemented too.
peppy wrote:
"Why is there no announcement?"
What is the point of announcing something before it is finalised? The changelog shows you what is going on, so you are free to read that in the meantime.
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i assume, you don't have any target when it will be released then..
ASAP is a good target.
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ASAP can be random, it can be done tomorow, next month, or can be done next year 
Please switch to the test build if you want to see up-to-date changes. Please read my post again. Please use the changelog link on the website.
peppy already said what need to be said, so guys, please be patient and don't pressure him to much
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then please make the test build available to the player who don't have a supporter tag
It is one of the main benefits of having one though (in my eyes; it is what i'd want the most)? I'd like to leave it that way for now.
osu! itself is still fine imo what kind of updates do you expect anyway.Miya wrote:
then please make the test build available to the player who don't have a supporter tag
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a new feature.
and crash fixes. It's anoying that ocassionaly osu always crashed.
and crash fixes. It's anoying that ocassionaly osu always crashed.
crashes can be due to your computer. since i changed my laptop, the osu never crashes and it's almost 6 months already.Miya wrote:
a new feature.
and crash fixes. It's anoying that ocassionaly osu always crashed.
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that's called bug, you knowgtrholic wrote:
crashes can be due to your computer. since i changed my laptop, the osu never crashes and it's almost 6 months already.Miya wrote:
a new feature.
and crash fixes. It's anoying that ocassionaly osu always crashed.
It's not a bug with the game itself when it's a problem on your end, but let's not go off-topic, when osz2 is ready and bug free there will be osz2 plus every other update that's prepared released at once, and once this is done and only then we have an aim to release more regular updates.Miya wrote:
that's called bug, you knowgtrholic wrote:
crashes can be due to your computer. since i changed my laptop, the osu never crashes and it's almost 6 months already.
This is pretty much what peppy already explained but in other words in case you understand it this way better.
Why not chill out and let it happen, then? As peppy's already said, the development team is not ginormous, and they physically can't fix everything in a matter of hours - it takes time. As-is, they put in a LOT of hours for this game that we are not in any way required to pay to play, so we should be grateful for what we get.Miya wrote:
ASAP can be random, it can be done tomorow, next month, or can be done next year
He's already stated that there is work being done, and the changelog can refute this, so just hang tight, and updates will come sooner or later.
if the no updates really bothers you. just get a sub and use the test build. problem solved :/
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guys, i'm just critizing that this is not a good way for the game. The game that are not updated in a long time is not good.
so why are you not realeasing the smaller update first and hold the big update later?
There must be something that you already done and bug free even it is small.
so why are you not realeasing the smaller update first and hold the big update later?
There must be something that you already done and bug free even it is small.
this is why. peppy has explained this all ready. if you aren't sure about something. please go read his postpeppy wrote:
Firstly, I am obviously not happy about the lack of public updates, and apologise for this. The fact of the matter is, pushing changes out now without bringing osz2 into play will take more time than it is worth, as we are close to being ready to have that implemented too.
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meh, that doesn't explain everything
You can't get everything you want.Miya wrote:
I want to see announcement like a new feature has arrive, new rule is applied, new version of osu is released or something like that >.>
Peppy said everything you need to know.
You can criticize anything you want, but the things won't change until peppy makes them change. It is quite reasonable to not release bugged content, everyone said this already, I don't know what you are expecting.Miya wrote:
guys, i'm just critizing that this is not a good way for the game. The game that are not updated in a long time is not good.
This has also been already said. You obviously don't understand how the updates are getting applied, but that's another matter.Miya wrote:
so why are you not realeasing the smaller update first and hold the big update later?
There must be something that you already done and bug free even it is small.
Try not to ask stuff that has already been said because that will definitely not bring the updates faster, it could only delay them because the main developers would have to write things here instead of doing their stuff.
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i don't have any problem with updating. I don't know what's happen there.
Yes, thank you for updating osu after a long time.
Yes, thank you for updating osu after a long time.
Sakura's point was that when peppy updates the public build in any way, there is bound to be at least 1-5 hours put aside for fixing issues that arise, and that is if it is not a huge problem that prevents 10/20/30 percent of the playerbase from playing.
orz2 (or whatever it is called) is a new file format for the songs in the game that changes how the game functions at it's core. They cant take some features that are running on orz2 and put them on the public build, because the features are going to think it's running orz2 and osu would crash 100% of the time for everyone. It's like getting an accountant from 40-50 years ago who used a typewriter his/her whole life and telling him/her to do his/her work on a super computer that happens to run a Chinese version of DOS. She would go in there and get nothing done, possibly break the computer, and piss off her co-workers.
Patience is key. orz2 will come out sometime soon. If someone says ASAP, it won't be after you died from bordem of lack of updates on the public build.
orz2 (or whatever it is called) is a new file format for the songs in the game that changes how the game functions at it's core. They cant take some features that are running on orz2 and put them on the public build, because the features are going to think it's running orz2 and osu would crash 100% of the time for everyone. It's like getting an accountant from 40-50 years ago who used a typewriter his/her whole life and telling him/her to do his/her work on a super computer that happens to run a Chinese version of DOS. She would go in there and get nothing done, possibly break the computer, and piss off her co-workers.
Patience is key. orz2 will come out sometime soon. If someone says ASAP, it won't be after you died from bordem of lack of updates on the public build.