BagelBob wrote:
I have a lot to say, so I'm going to do this thing the right way. Chronologically.
Suburu, I'm sad that you made me view all your posts.
Why can't you duplicate things you do out of thread in the thread later. Jerk.
Pasonia and yellowyoshi (and anyone else), the ninja is right in killing every night. Furthurmore, Echo was the correct choice for the lynch yesterday and a good one for a night kill(from the ninja) for the same reasons.
Echo was
A) buddying Suburu and "kuu" and trying to convince the town they were who they claimed while having no real way of knowning if they are telling the truth (other than being an assassin)
B) contradicting herself when she said that OK, if you want it straight, they can be either both innocent or both assassins.
and IF Suburu dies, THEN kuu is a wolf.
(with respect to Suburu being night killed)
C) claimed a vanilla townie, and thus her death would have no negative power role consequences
Look at me, I'm restating a case on a dead guy! 
Furthurmore Pasonia's "plan" on page 34 is just horrible. Have all vanilla townies lie about being Aux roles? This would create so many counter claims that we would have no idea who to believe about their night actions. Even if the power roles figure things out, it becomes impossible to coordinate everyone. It would simply lead to chaos.
If at that point Pasonia truely believed that the ninja NKing a wolf prevented the wolf NK (and I did too at that point, I don't go back and read through every post for edits) a real plan would have been the EXACT OPPOSITE. @ "kuu" This is also the reason the ninja's NK can not stop the wolf NK.
1)insomniac claims day 1
2)white mage protects night 1
3)ninja + (#wolves+1) vanilla townies claim
4)lynching of vanilla townies combined with NK of wolf given by insomniac (preventing wolf NKs)
5)????
6)Victory
Along with those two reasons, Pasonia was bussing on "kuu" on day 1 even after the claim. If "kuu" and Suburu really are telling the truth, this would have totally destroyed Suburu's plan and put us in a horrible situation for finding scum.
It is for these reasons (and the fact that I'm not 100% trusting of Suburu) that I make my Vote for Pasonia
nardi lied about being the priest. Lies do nothing to benefit the town, thus he is probably scum. I'll change my vote to him if I really need to.
neo claimed ninja. Suburu says Suburu saw him at night killing Rolled. He should not be lynched. If he is lying, the ninja will kill him. If he is truth-speaking, he should kill someone. Thus:
@neo: Who do you plan to kill tonight? (assuming you are the ninja)
Also, what's the story on commandhat and SFG? They switched yet?
And it's this horrible counter-claim that will solidify my voting for you.
I vote for BagelBobMy case is built upon the powers of a psychic; I believe that as long as the Psychic can establish a link with any other auxillary role, the wolves will have a hard time. I am not in a comfortable position to explain why I said what I did, and I know that what I said against kuwarudo counts against me, but if you ask me, on day 1 I was being very personal about matters and voted kuwa solely based on his Day 1 actions.
Anyway, if you're a vanilla townie or an aux, Bagel, luring my vote against you will mean you're being more illogical than I am, or you're playing on my proposed plan.
About the "we would have no idea who to believe" bit, you're right about it. By doing this the townies can pull the wool over the assassins, and then the assassins would end up with a higher chance of hitting a vanilla, which is
THE EXACT CONSEQUENCE THAT WOULD WORK IN OUR FAVOR.Okay, so now, we have several people role-claiming. These guys would most likely be hit come nightfall, and we have about five names now. BUT if all of the humans put in a role-claim, whether or not they are lying doesn't matter. You must remember that humans outnumber the assassins, and if we have ALL of us doing a role-claim, that would give the assassins a hard time to select their target. But at the same time, all the auxillaries would have an easier time sorting out the liars.
Also, if the assassins lie, they must be prepared that an aux would find out that they're lying.
And if, say, the psychic established a link with the guardian/coroner and another human, then he can request the human to masquerade as a psychic, cite accurate examples that the assassins would find too compelling to be ignored, and draw fire towards himself from the assassins come nightfall. If the psychic established a link with the ninja AND the insomniac, he can also direct the ninja to hit an assassin (because of insomniac information + ninja kill). In my opinion, the psychic is powerful because he is the center of operations, and I am only citing a manner in which he can obtain such information. Any false claims is fine to the psychic because he can tell if the liar is just a sneaky vanilla or a sneaky ASSASSIN.
If you still can't get this, I suggest you throw yourself over Gibraltar's Rock. Seriously.