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AceOfArrows
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Larto

Ace Of Hearts wrote:

Deadline: This Day will be 4 IRL days long as suggested; deadline will be 10:00 PM EST on Monday, June 1st, which is 4 days minus 2 hours from the time of this post.
Isn't that in like, a few hours?


Jeez, this went so fast.
Neo@lex
KK G'night guys. I may or may not see you in the morning.
I suggest rape.
Larto

neo@lex wrote:

KK G'night guys. I may or may not see you in the morning.
I suggest rape.
At least now I know that neo@lex indeed is an assassin. Civillians would fight until their end!

At least that's what I learnt in my earlier WW games.

Also, I myself think that I've helped the humans/tried to help the humans pretty much today. I wouldn't be surprised if I'd be the one to be killed by the assassins tonight. If so, goodbye :<
YellowerYoshi
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thepianist
Seeing as time's almost up, I'm voting for Rena-Chan. I don't like Rena's reason of Kuu "not making sense." It seems more like a grudge against him.

I dun wanna vote for Nardi and get it wrong (it's already pretty much comfirmed tho), and I'm not sure about Neo, and...

Rena-chan wrote:

kuwarudo wrote:

Rena-chan posts so little I thought Rena-chan was an outsider.
Your face is an outsider.
Yeah.. :P

Edit: Hate forgetting the slash on RenaChan
Larto
With YY's vote it's a tie between neo@lex and nardi now, right?

Ace of Hearts: What happens if there is a tie between two players in the lynch votes?


I have the feeling this already has been asked, sorry if so. But this is really important now imho.
nardii
I was going to vote Neo to even out the votes, but as we're equal now, I'm voting Agent Spin Here out of principle. (HIS REASON FOR VOTING SURE SEEMS SUSPICIOUS RITE)

Off to bed now
adam2046
No actually, he said that he believes Suburu, it's hardly suspicious of him to "jump on the bandwagon" to lynch someone he has more chance of killing that he still believes to be wolf.

Edit: also Suburu will most likely die tonight.
Larto
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Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
If there is a tie for execution votes, I will do one of two things:

1) Flip a coin/roll a die
2) Bring in an outside vote

We'll cross that bridge when/if we get to it.

Also: Status updated.
YellowerYoshi

Larto wrote:

adam2046 wrote:

Edit: also Suburu will most likely die tonight.
adam, you suck, I tried NOT TO MENTION this so maybe the wolves won't notice that Suburu is still there. I even tried to make MYSELF more interesting for the wolves.
garhjhnfunejdwjwsfjwdswjjdidsijsdejugvundjfcsdce fuck you adam :<
adam has been hasty in his accusations and actions, he's high on my radar but I'm going to wait until Day 3 to see how it progresses.
adam2046
You really think they wouldn't notice?
Seriously?
I bet it was probably decided on day 1.

Edit: YellowYoshi, please show the class your PM for the night action.
YellowerYoshi
adam: How are we allowed to show PMs about night actions to everybody? That would be showing a Role ID, which is illegal.
Larto

adam2046 wrote:

You really think they wouldn't notice?
Seriously?
Maybe? You never know how stupid wolves are. orz
adam2046
Question for Ace: Is showing the night action pm the same as showing a role ID?
Yuukari-Banteki
hey Larto if you think youre going to die make a list of potential wolves and the reasons you suspect them and give it to someone.
Larto
I'm probably not going to die and too lazy to make something like that. I also haven't planned too far ahead after day 2 anyway. lol

EDIT:
BY THE WAY SFG WOULD YOU PLEASE VOTE FOR NARDI KTHX
BagelBob_old
I'd like to change my vote from Pasonia to Nardi because of the lies about being the priest.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
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adam2046
That's a bit confusing.
The question was, do night action pms count as role IDs?
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows

adam2046 wrote:

The question was, do night action pms count as role IDs?
The direct answer is no.

You could actually quote an entire night action confirmation PM from me, without getting in trouble by me, if you wanted, because anyone who's ever held an Aux Role in any of my Werewolf Games knows the format I use for typing them, meaning that if anyone cared to, they could easily forge a quote claiming it to be a Night-time PM from me.

What I'm saying is, in the end, you can quote me all you want, but people can still say it's fake because, since it's a quote, you can still change wording around before hitting "Submit;" there's no absolute proof that it was I who sent you the "PM" you're quoting from or that the contents are exactly what I (or anyone else for that matter) told you.

Edit: Now forwarding a Night action PM from me to someone else, now THAT is illegal and would be punished severely. (Just to clarify.)
Cuddlebun
I think he just said yes, because people can still say 'hay that's false'.

Also Lardo I DO have a reason for voting foul (which I shared with Olinad), but I don't feel like sharing it quite yet.

Edit: fuck ninja'd by Ace
Yuukari-Banteki
Question: would a screenshot of a night action pm be legal or illegal?
adam2046
illegal
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
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BagelBob_old
Would telling us how many assassins were in the game at the beginning of Day 1 be OK?

It's on this page that we find The Answer.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows

BagelBob wrote:

Would telling us how many assassins were in the game at the beginning of Day 1 be OK?
I told you beforehand that I intended to use a total of 7.

However, I also told you that that may not necessarily be how many I would actually use.

In either case, regardless, no matter how many of them may or may not be dead at this point, the answer is no, I can't divulge how many Assassins there actually were at the game's start.
YellowerYoshi
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foulcoon
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adam2046
See you tomorrow.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
One hour warning.
Jinxy
Unvote
Vote nardi11011


The ninja will take care of Neo@lex. Why waste your votes lynching him?

EDIT: ...Oh. I guess I panicked when I read half the new pages and saw the 1 hr warning. Thats another -1 for me. >.>
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
lol yeah, I guess it is.

Status is updated with that change.
kuwarudo
So, did everyone vote now?
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
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Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
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Cuddlebun
I knew you had received that PM, foul. Rolled told me a little after I posted it. And yes, it is related to that PM.

Based on my conversation with Rolled I've come to the belief that either you are an assassin, or Echo is.
kuwarudo
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foulcoon
[22:22:49] <Rolled> did tode say why she voted for you foul
[22:23:10] <foulcoon> she said that you told her about the PM you sent me after she posted it
[22:23:13] <foulcoon> you bastard liar
[22:23:20] <foulcoon> i keel you
[22:23:24] <Rolled> no i didn't
[22:23:28] <Rolled> at least i don't think
[22:23:29] <Rolled> maybe i did
[22:23:31] <Rolled> let me read my pm
[22:23:32] <foulcoon> I knew you had received that PM, foul. Rolled told me a little after I posted it. And yes, it is related to that PM.
[22:24:01] <Rolled> tode played you
[22:24:03] <Rolled> i didn't say that
Cuddlebun
He didn't tell me, exactly. I just kinda surmised that from what he said in regards to his suspicion of you.
Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Dusk

The participants shuffled into the viewing room, and watched as nardi11011 was strapped into the gas chamber chair. He was asked for his final words, and then the gas was turned on, and they watched with varying levels of interest as Nardi was killed by the toxic gas.

A good number of them nodded to themselves after it was over before leaving, thinking that either he deserved it or that it was simply a good decision. Soon enough, however, the viewing was over and they all went back to their homes.

nardi11011 is now dead by execution and is, pending his last words, out of the game.

Night 2

During This Phase: Assassin kill discussion (in private). Also, all Auxiliary Roles required to do so must PM me.

Deadline: Night 2 will be over at 10:00 PM EST on Thursday, June 4th. That's 3 days from now.
nardii
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Topic Starter
AceOfArrows
Dawn

The remaining people woke up the next morning.

[The following was a post requested to be made by SFG citing her uncertainty of being able to vote during Day 3 due to Osu!Con. As Host I verify its authenticity; the words quoted here are hers, not mine, with no additions or omissions.]

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

SFG ran out of her house almost as soon as she woke up, still in her nightclothes and searching anxiously for the night's victim. When she found the body laid across the street, she paused, her dread growing as she recognized her beloved friend, Suburu.

"No, no, no, this can't be...!" She murmured, her breath quickening into agonizing gasps of grief. "No, no! Suburu! SUBURU!!!"

She sprinted to the girl, shaking her and taking her head in her arms. "Suburu wake up! Why are you so cold? Suburu! Please, answer me!" She saw the bullet in Subi's head, choked back a sob, then gave up and clutched Suburu's corpse, wailing and drowning her tears her clothing. Her sobs drew the other villagers around just as she noticed a little note scribbled hastily in Subi's handwriting. It had one word on it: Bob.

Bob.

BagelBob?

He was standing among the villagers, but SFG knew better now. Bob had MURDERED her best friend. Overnight. For the sake of some stupid GAME SHOW. Furious, she rose, laying Suburu's body carefully down and moving a strand of hair from her bloodied face.

Then she ran at Bob in a blind rage, tackling him to the ground.

"YOU BASTARD!" She screamed. "YOU KILLED HER! IT WAS YOU!" The villagers moved in alarm to pull them apart as she began hitting Bob with all her strength, trying to pound the life out of him. "I'LL KILL YOU! FOR SUBURU'S SAKE, I WILL KILL YOU AND TEAR YOUR BODY INTO SHREDS AND BURN THEM AND-" Someone was pulling her backwards, off of Bob, and covering her mouth. SFG tried to wriggle free but failed, and before she knew it she was being borne of someplace far away from Bob, laying there with that *smirk* on his face, he was going to die for this. But for the moment, she was helpless.

Crying, she took one last glance at her best friend's body before she was dragged out of sight.

"Oh Suburu, Suburu, my friend..."


vote BagelBob

I want Bob killed ASAP for murdering Subi as per her last information before she was killed
LadySuburu is now dead and out of the game.

And now 21 remained, uncertain whether or not the Ninja was still about.

Day 3

During This Phase: Free discussion and execution voting.

Deadline: This phase will end at 10:00 PM EST on Monday, June 8, which is 4 days from the time of this post.
YellowerYoshi
YellowYoshi1 looked on at the dead body of LadySuburu and at SFG being dragged away.

"I think... we're in trouble... Lady Suburu was probably one of our best chances at this stupid game..."

Unable to look at the gruesome body of Suburu, YellowYoshi1 turned around to face away from it. He looked up tot he sky with a large sigh, "Suburu was on to him... and now he's dead... I think I'm going to side with SFG here," YellowYoshi1 said then turned back around to the group and pointing at BagelBob, "You were suspicious enough already, but now I know for certain that you are an assassin."

YellowYoshi1 casts his lynch vote for BagelBob.
kuwarudo
YOU BASTARDS!!! HOW DARE YOU KILL SUBURU!!

*SOB* *SOB*

(Uh, how did Suburu die? Ninja or Assassin? I mean, Wolf Kill or Aux Kill)

vote for Bagelbob


I JUST GOT AN INTERNET CONNECTION AGAIN AND THIS IS WHAT I SEE
YellowerYoshi
LadySuburu is now dead and out of the game.

And now 21 remained, uncertain whether or not the Ninja was still about.
Only one person was killed, therefor it was an assassin kill. If there had been two deaths, Ace would have specified who died of what.
adam2046
Vote: Bobby Stars BagelBob
Larto
Why did the FAGGOT NINJA NOT KILL NEO@LEX.


FUCKING IDIOT


Oh well. Vote BagelBob for obvious reasons.
BagelBob_old
Wow guys, way to jump the gun. I'm in the middle of a post right now, and as for why neo is still alive, I'll explain that too.
Jinxy
...Dammit.

Guys, I found some info on 2 people who could be wolves, but I cant release the info yet until I get Spin's info on who Echo is.

And to Ninja: Fuck You.
adam2046
I asked ASH last night what Echo and Nardi were and he said Echo was a vanilla and Nardi was an assassin.
Jinxy
I prefer to hear it from Spin's own mouth, thank you very much.

EDIT: Why didnt wojjan get a Phantom? He didnt vote either, did he?
Larto
I can prove that he said it. I think I have the log saved somewhere on my Laptop.
YoshiKart
Vote BagelBob
Jinxy
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Larto
Do you have any proof or just any guess why Suburu must be an assassin?
Because I have lots of proof/guesses that show that he isn't.
- Suburu died at night. By being killed by an assassin. Now, killing an assassin at night might be a.. clever strategy sometimes, but I don't see it as clever at the moment.
- If Suburu would have been an assassin, kuwarudo would have died at night 1. That would have made the civillians believe everything Suburu said, since kuwarudo dying at night 1 would have made LOTS OF people think that Suburu was a civillian.
Of course, THIS proof isn't perfect, since, if kuwarudo was an assassin too, he couldn't have died no matter what.
- Suburu gave us the name "neo@lex" as the wolf. neo@lex claimed to be the ninja, but THEN he admitted that he wasn't. This makes him SUPER SUPER SUSPICIOUS and very likely to be an assassin.

Enough?

EDIT: Oh, but there is a possibilty that SFG is a werewolf and faked the whole post. But I don't think that she is.
BagelBob_old
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Larto
My feeling about BagelBob's post:


If everything BagelBob says is true, I am a complete idiot and...


orz. I am probably a complete idiot. This just makes too much sense.
adam2046
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kuwarudo
Ahahahaha...

This just enforces my vote in Bagelbob

I am no longer riding the vote wagon on Bagelbob

This is my own reason. :)


Oh, man, oh man, this game is so good! This is why I'm always at this forums! Haha...this is great...
YellowerYoshi
I'm much more inclined to believe LadySuburu over you BagelBob, she's been a valuable asset throughout the game unlike you. You've just been pointing fingers and opposing everyone's ideas and deductions on possible assassins, which leads me to believe that you are one and are just trying to lead us to lynching a vanilla.

My vote stands.
Jinxy
Alrite, heres the list of sins Bob claims.

LadySuburu
SFG
adam2046
+kuwarudo

Now, we have either 7 or 8 wolves.
I will add on my suspicions.

neo@lex
YellowYoshi1
Pasonia


Reasons for YY and Pas will be revealed once... you get the drill.


EDIT: Looks like Kuu and Bob are playing mind games.

EDIT 2: V done, adam.
adam2046
JI, you missed his claim that kuu is an assassin.
kuwarudo
What mind games??

I don't even have the game board. Or any game board for that matter.

(lol)

Anyway, I'll leave it up to you guys on who to believe. I'm not good at swaying people on decisions, unless they're right in front of me.
BagelBob_old
Adam, as I recall, you were jumping back and forth between ninja and assassin. That, or you can't get the role name right. Kudos to Ace for making the role names so similar.

I'd like to point it out, in case you don't understand "kuu"'s post.

He lied about being the Guardian Angel. Now that I've come out with the truth, he has no choice but to vote on me.


YellowYoshi, what you call a "valuable asset" is nothing of the kind. Suburu has not done a good job at all. On day 1, Suburu was quick to move Suburu's vote off of nardi, who turned out to not be the priest onto Animask, who at this point looks a whole lot like the priest. And on day 2, all Suburu did was vote for neo. First post, and that's all we get. And this was only because Suburu had selected neo as the game's first "Assassin".

I, on the other hand, have been making valid CASES on people who acted suspicious, and as for opposing "everyone's" ideas. I fully believe Suburu to be an assassin and Pasonia's plan, which created CHAOS, was horrible. I've already outlined a better one.

ALSO kuu claimed to be the Guardian Angel, not a vanilla. Could it be that it slipped your mind because you know kuu is NEITHER?

Also jinxy, neo and Suburu are mutually exclusive assassins, or really really dumb.
Jinxy
Gah, Fuck Spin's timing.

If this turns out into a text wall, dont skip it.

Pasonia wrote:

How can we be so sure he's not an Assassin, either? We have a 33% chance.
Although Pas changed it into 27% later, 33% means there are 8 wolves.


And lets go back to yesterday.

YellowYoshi1 wrote:

We have 8 wolves to deal with.
YY also claims 8, although he isint a seer.


Echo's turn
Echo said 27%, which is, of course, 7.

Now, here are the possible routes of this.

Pas and YY are wolves, and are saying the truth. There are 8.
Pas and YY are wolves, and lied to make the wolf force look bigger. There are 7.


And dont say "They lied to confuzzle the wolves." because, HECK. The wolves know how many of them are there.

EDIT: I removed the impossiblities after reading Bob's post.
adam2046
I was saying that a ninja's occupation is usually an assassin, as a joke, you know humour right?
You're seriously not a very fun guy :?
kuwarudo
Hmm, I can't seem to make a post without landing suspicion...but who cares anyway?

I'm just going to go blunt and stuff.

BagelBob is lying.

There we go.

Ok, I'm going to play WoW now, kthxbai.

I can't post reasons, because I'm dumb at those kinds of stuff. Hahaha...maybe I will post but later.

EDIT I JUST BOLDED THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
BagelBob_old
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BagelBob_old
JInxy, before you go any farther with that logic, look at this:

viewtopic.php?p=133873#p133873

I'm not sure if they're "Impossibles". Just that Echo isn't the one who said those things, it was Adam trying to say Echo was talking through him.
Jinxy
One more thing,
Ace said around 7 wolves. So...
7 = 50%
8 = 35%
6 = 10%
9 = 5% (Worst case senario[?])

And...
Vote YellowYoshi1

I could be wrong about Pasonia, and I dont wanna get tangled up in the Bob/Kuu guardian crap.
commandhat
Only posting here to yell at BagelBob and wonder what the hell he's doing.

Don't ignore this, if it's a text wall.

First off, if I was an assassin, why would I want out? Killing things in the night is too much fun to leave D: (I know this from lots of previous games, on different sites etc.

Second off, I -was- a civilan. Now I'm a ghost lurking about teh thread. Anyways. If I'm a not normal civilian, why would I on-the-spot abandon an important role in the game?

Thirdly, pie. Seriously, wtf? For all I know they really could be metting each other and shit like that, but Suburu leaving her computer open to another player? For that matter, Suburu not noticing the 'clicks' and 'I'll be right there' noises coming from her room?

U has lots to explain. I go now.

Edit: fucking typos lakwegrfolasb,fhjerggv
Edit2: Unbolded one sentence so Ace dosen't blow up on me for trying to point fingers or anything.
Final edit: Regarding that post down thar: No, not just the post on the role ID and stuff, anywhere. The inbox can be accessed from anywhere. Just change the osu tab to a different site and *boom* logged out. Also wtf with the color stuff with Edit2? :/
adam2046
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adam2046
He's implying SFG is a super spy, who invades Subi's comp to find out his role in RP games...I think?
Jinxy
There is one thing I dont understand.

If SFG saw Suburu as a wolf, then what does commandhat's role have to do with all this? If SFG becomes a wolf, no big deal. If SFG becomes a civil, then... well your claim still doesnt make sense, bob.

And Kuu, DID YOU PROTECT NEO@LEX?

EDIT: Okay, Bob, SFG was accusing as this thread is PUBLIC. She just saw it, followed on from page 1, and made her own list to who is a wolf.
As a webcomic character says:

Triangle wrote:

You have said nothing.
kuwarudo
NO I DID NOT PROTECT NEO@LEX

I DO NOT PROTECT PEOPLE IF THEY DO NOT ENGAGE CONTACT WITH ME.

ONLY A FEW PEOPLE HAVE CONTACTED ME. NEO@LEX DID NOT CONTACT ME.
commandhat

BagelBob wrote:

I don't know why you wanted out. What I do know is that you tried to leave and now that I'm calling your replacement a wolf, you're back in here trying to defend yourself (her).

I recognize your questions as WIFOM trying to distract me and other players from the truth by making US come up with reasons for YOUR actions.

And I don't understand what you mean about 'clicks' and 'I'll be right there' noises. I don't see how those would even matter.
[removed my quote to keep from stretching post longer]

I'm yelling at your post flying in the face of common sense. Would you willingly let a friend at your computer with you still logged in as everything? Better yet, would you not be suspicious of your friend responding "I'll be right there" several times to your calls, especially when you've like made lunch or something?

Edit: That and Ace gave SFG my role. =/
adam2046
I don't think either BagelBob or Commandhat live in the reality we live in...
:?
BagelBob_old
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Jinxy
Commandhat, just shut the fuck up.
Bob, You are being more and more unreasonable.

Look guys, this is forum werewolf. I DONT SHITTING CARE WHAT HAPPENS IN RL.

Bob, seriously, you have no proof what happened in rl. So just shut up.
adam2046
You're stating everything you're saying as a fact Bob, this is getting quite silly.
kuwarudo
WTF IS HAPPENING HERE WHY IS COMMANDHAT HERE AGAIN?

oh sorry for caps...wait i was shouting.
commandhat
Good points there, very logical. I see no problem with those, but what lab? If you mean at school, then that makes even more sense because people tend to watch their friends at school.

EDIT: and yes JInxy and Kuu I'm shutting the fuck up now. I just wanted to point out the logic errors I saw in Bagel's text wall post earlier.
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commandhat
Ace already put his foot down, we gotta keep the posts no matter how dumb they are. Sorry. :o
kuwarudo
NO MATTER HOW DUMB THE POST IS. Ace already said it. :/

Also: Pie.

And Bagelbob is now high in suspicion.
Echo
Can I lock commandhat out of this thread? He's COMPLETELY TOTALLY FRICKING RUINING THE GAME. IF YOU WANT OUT, STAY OUT.

IF YOU'RE DEAD, DON'T POST IN THE THREAD. IF YOU'VE QUIT, GO AWAY.

yOU SAID YOU DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO CHECK ON THE THREAD, SO DON'T CHECK ON THE DAMN THREAD

</RAGE>

edit2: i didn't read every single post, sorry if this came a bit late.

edit:
dead/quit people are still allowed to talk to people in irc (as Ace has said), but i believe this should be strictly in private conversations with individual people only, and not with a group. Only people who are still alive should be allowed to contribute to *proper* discussion, ie. the use of persuasion through the use of skillful talk or evidence or logic or whatever. This INCLUDES defending your own role.

edit3:
Now, posting THROUGH someone who's in the game is fine in my books - you need to privately convince that person to do so, which is the object of the game. And, because someone else is QUOTING what you say, there's no guarantee that it came from your mouth, whereas making a post confirms that you really did say it.
YellowerYoshi
BagelBob, the only thing you are doing with your wild accusations and crackpot real life theories is digging your already deep pit even deeper.

I'm sticking to my belief that Suburu was a human, because killing one of your own pack is just a fucking stupid move. It may buy you a day by throwing people's sights off of you but one of you still died.

Either Suburu wasn't a wolf and they wolves saw her as a threat or Suburu was a wolf and the wolf team is just fucking idiotic.
adam2046
Echo was in IRC and asked me to post this:

16:18 <Echo> : and tell bagelbob i've talked to over half the people who're still in the game

in response to

Echo, who hadn't been talking to anyone about the werewolf game, came to me and asked me if I was a wolf. A real vanilla townie would go to someone they thought was innocent to tell them their suspicions, while Echo came to me.

16:19 <Echo> : i talk to people
16:19 <Echo> : and if i think that person is a wolf, i tell them that
16:19 <Echo> : if i think that person is human, i tell them that
Loginer
Ugh, forgot to vote yesterday.
Anyway, I'll place my vote on BagelBob for now. Suburu was simply too useful to be an assassin.
kuwarudo
What happened Loginer? And I see you've ridden the Vote Wagon.
Jinxy
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kuwarudo

JInxyjem wrote:

Bagel claimed he protected neo@lex from the ninja, while Kuu said he did nothing at all.
Who you gonna believe? Ghost Buste---*shot*

Well, who will you guys believe?
YellowerYoshi
I don't particularly trust either choice, but I definitely would believe kuwarudo before I would believe BagelBob.
kuwarudo

YellowYoshi1 wrote:

I don't particularly trust either choice, but I definitely would believe kuwarudo before I would believe BagelBob.
Really?? :)


ACE WHERE ARE THE STANDINGS
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