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Kawabe Chieco - Sakura Kiss (TV Size)

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Paulo8624
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v0xtrot
Well, starring since your map is so pro I felt like making a diff myself. ;o

EDIT: Looking back in retrospect, I never starred. :(
blissfulyoshi
Timing Post

BPM:166
Offset:-2
merimeri
cute map! I like this.☆彡
but... I want a if possible easy a little more difficulty.
tieff
Too many hitsounds, i think.
Also you can decrease volume of hitsounds.

[v0xtrot]
00:25:662 (7) - Up 1 grid. (Lvl 4 grid)
00:34:156 (x) - Add note here, OR add note here 00:34:337
01:06:867 (10) - Remove note and add note here 01:07:048
01:09:668 (9-10) - Down 1 grid.

It's all.
Starred.
Takuma
I still am not very good at timing, but I got 1,817 ms as the offset.

- All:
Needs an easier difficulty, imo.

- v0trot:
00:31:81 (1) - Short spinner. I think its best that you delete this and place notes at 00:32:00 and 00:32:18.
01:09:68 (9,10) - Possibly line up with 01:09:40 (7,8).

- Gentle Death:
Use more hitsounds throughout the map, like the other difficulty. This map is so boring without them.
00:19:15 (1) - Inconsistent spacing; not sure why you changed the distance spacing here.
00:33:97 (4,5,6,7) - ^
00:39:75 (4,5,6,7) - ^
00:23:31 (4) - Shorten this by 1/4.
00:26:74 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - What exactly are these meant to follow? I can't figure out what - it could just be me.
01:10:12 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^

- Shin's
No real problems here; fun.
Topic Starter
Paulo8624
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GbL
Yeah, you're brazilian, then i'll speak in portuguese, lol

Paulo, só umas sugestões...

[Gentle Death]:
00:10:208: add um círculo aqui, acho que se as sequencias ficarem as três iguais, fica melhor. :]

[v0xtrot]:
01:13:012 (1): esse circulo e o 2, não seriam melhor continuarem na sequencia anterior? Assim a nova sequencia seria do 3 em diante.

Shin's tá ótimo. xD
Só uma dica, em alguma dificuldade, separa mais os sliders um do outro, dando um pouco mais de dificuldade. As 3 dificuldades estão pouco parecidas, dar uma diferença nelas é interessante. c_c

Starred, congratz.
mrtn
[gentle death]
no problems here :)

[v0xtr0t]
00:31:80 (1) - spinner doesn't meet the auto+2000 rule.
01:09:58 (?) - i think a note here would fit better...

[shin's]
00:09:39 (1,2,3) - i find this to be confusing. The repeating sliders make the pattern really weird.
00:50:23 (3,4) - this is really confusing

other than those things all seems fine :):)
0_o
Relaxing
00:13:19 (1,2,3) - I wouldn't have notes on the offbeats on Easy difficulties. Try moving 1 and 2 ahead a white tick, remove 3, then make 2 a slider where 3 used to be.
00:51:68 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Overlaps like this may be too confusing for beginners

v0xtrot
00:31:80 (1) - bad bad bad bad bad bad spinner :evil: either lengthen to the next white tick or remove
aaand mrtn already mentioned it

Shin's
epically overmapped, but sure :P

yay
Topic Starter
Paulo8624
almost everything fixed~

I've got new skin elements coming, and they are pretty nice! Just wait ;D
Andrea
[Relaxing]

00:02:52 (3) - A finish at end of slider :3
01:15:17 (4) - ^

This difficulty needs hitsounds.

[Gentle Death]

00:03:25 (8) - Finish here, too.
00:37:77 (5) - ^
01:15:44 (7) - ^

[v0xtr0t]

00:11:74 (8) - 1 square up? better
00:31:80 (1) - Unrankable spinner. <----- IMPORTANT TO CHANGE!!!!!
01:06:50 (8) - New combo.
01:07:59 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:09:03 (5) - New combo.

[Shin's]

Fine.

Star this <3
v0xtrot
You guys sure didn't like the spinner. :P Meh, thanks for the quick feedback on this map. ;o

[Gentle Death]:

00:20:51 (10) - Please put a finish or something here.
00:32:16 (14) - Same here.
00:37:76 (5) - Finish?

[shin]
00:43:55 (5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I don't get this stream yo. :/

And that's pretty much all I have to say for now, I really like both your and Shin's maps. :P

I made some small changes on my map, like the first spinner, a note on a spot, etc. Check it out yo.

Download: Kawabe Chieco - Sakura Kiss (TV Size) (Paulo8624) [v0xtrot].osu
Andrea
You guys sure didn't like the spinner.

No, is not that, for rank a map the spinner have to give with auto 2000 bonus...
Gens
Cool beatmap, cool spinner~
I don't have time to go into details, but this beatmap looks good.

So yeah, starred. ;)
Mafiamaster
Relaxing~
  1. 00:02:52 (3) - Redo break after beat. (It'll shorten)
  2. 00:10:11 (2) - Move 1 tick down.
  3. 00:49:87 (2,3,4) - Move 1 tick to the right. (This is for even spacing between 1 and 2.)

Gentle X_x~

  • 00:20:59 (x) - Small suggestion: Possibly add a beat here? Since the drum sound ends there.
  1. 00:28:19 (1,2) - Move 3 ticks to the left.
Vockstrot~
  1. The offset is 0, change to 359. Then resnap.
Great job! Love the spinner!
blissfulyoshi
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v0xtrot
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Shinxyn
Shin's Chaos.... why doesn't that sound appealing to me... :o
Anyways~
I'll look over Relaxing...
full nazi~!
Remove ALL claps and replace with whistles imo
00:02:52 (3) - remove finish or whistle (just one of them)
00:14:09 (2) - remove whistle-slide
00:19:15 (2) - don't like this, it follows the drums, but then doesn't...make this slider or add note to 00:19:51! (and no hitsounds for this)
00:20:96 (1) - sounds awkward, but whatever
00:22:40 (2) - remove whistle-slide
00:24:75 (3) - maybe new combo (since the last slider ended with Finish and its new start for vocal?)
00:26:74 (1) - down a tick?
00:30:72 (5) - right a tick or center it, and remove whistle-slide?
00:45:53 (3) - maybe add finish to end?
01:01:44 (2,4) - add whistle (to 4's start)
01:01:80 (3,4) - 4 left a tick or 3,4 right a tick
01:02:16 (4) - maybe finish to end?
01:03:25 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - make the lines parallel (and have that first 1 align with 4 from last combo)
01:05:05 (3) - maybe finish to end? or not... your choice here~
01:14:09 (1,2,3,4) - down a tick
01:14:09 (1,2,3) - remove whistles~
01:15:17 (4) - if you did add more finish to those slider ends, then keep the finish here~ if you didn't, then remove
For hitsounds, I won't keep it simple ~

What else... right, a star...

Download: Kawabe Chieco - Sakura Kiss (TV Size) (Paulo8624) [Shin's Chaos].osu
Sleep Powder
[Relaxing]
00:20:96 (1) - End repeats at white tick instead?
00:28:19 (3) - Hitsound at end of this?
00:30:72 (5) - End at red tick?
00:54:93 (4,5) - Move these up 1 on level 3 grid for equal distance

[Gentle Death] (the name sounds hot lol)
00:03:25 (8) - Finish?
00:20:51 (10) - I don't like the clap here
00:39:75 (4,5,6,7) - Doesnt sound right
01:15:53 (8) - Finish

[Shins Chaos]
00:43:55 (5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - lolwut?
00:55:11 (7) - Fast sliders up ahead...wow I got a "Splash Mountain" flashback from disneyland with this somehow lol
01:15:53 (6) - Finish

[v0xtrot]
Yay my favorite difficulty~!

Starr'd
Lokamp
What an elegant tv opening...

Relaxing
[00:14:745] finish here
[01:10:388] shrink a bit this slider (it can be difficult for beginners...)
[01:15:198] (4) clap ALL this little slider

Gentle Death
[General] this difficulty is supposed to be a normal mode, so let's "normalize" it making easier steps...
[00:02:840] ... like here!
[00:09:420] these rapid triple beats can be replaced with sliders... can't they?
[00:19:926] same thing here!
[00:31:376] ... and here!

v0xtrot
[00:05:029] (3) a clap HERE, not at 4th slider...
[00:51:665] use normal sounds from here

Shin's chaos
[00:16:016] (3) a whistle here, not on 4th beat

Maybe this GOOD map isn't ranked yet due to the "easy" modes, but it's only an opinion... Star'd!
Topic Starter
Paulo8624

Lokamp wrote:

What an elegant tv opening...

Relaxing
[00:14:745] finish here [there isn't a note here...?]
[01:10:388] shrink a bit this slider (it can be difficult for beginners...) [Fixed]
[01:15:198] (4) clap ALL this little slider [It doesn't sound right? D:]

Gentle Death [This diff isn't a normal, it's hard-ish, so I can't take your tips for these.]
[General] this difficulty is supposed to be a normal mode, so let's "normalize" it making easier steps...
[00:02:840] ... like here!
[00:09:420] these rapid triple beats can be replaced with sliders... can't they?
[00:19:926] same thing here!
[00:31:376] ... and here!
DeathxShinigami
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Starrodkirby86
This song...

[Relaxing]:
00:02:52 (3) - Shorten slider by 1/2. (Good luck though if you are ;-;) You also would have to fix the break.
01:03:61 (2,3,1,2,3) - This whole spacing here looks a bit inconsistent (Particularly (1) to (2)).

[Gentle Death]:
00:02:53 (3) - That 1/4 stream should start here...And then readjust break. I guess you should move (1) and (2) to make it look symmetrical if you're changing this.
01:15:44 (7,8) - I don't think these two beats are needed.

[v0xtrot]:
00:40:66 (1) - No volume endings are always confusing.
01:03:61 (2) - Move 1 up on Grid Level 3.

[Shin's Chaos]:
00:43:55 (5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - This is just ugly and cruel.


Whaaaaa~

Star!

I would have some other constructive comment or something...but gee whiz, I'm tired.
v0xtrot

Lokamp wrote:

What an elegant tv opening...
v0xtrot
[00:05:029] (3) a clap HERE, not at 4th slider... - No thanks. I've found no problems with the way it sounds, and neither have anybody else.
[00:51:665] use normal sounds from here - Nah, that makes no sense. I prefer it the way it is.

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

[v0xtrot]:
00:40:66 (1) - No volume endings are always confusing - Agreed, they can be, but it ends at a good spot and I follow the vocals through almost the entire map. I'll see if I can come up with something good.
01:03:61 (2) - Move 1 up on Grid Level 3. - I'll fix this though
My main laptop is broken, and msn doesn't work on the school-lappie I'm using, so communication is a bit hard. Oh well. I'll update this post later with the fixes.
mosluv
^o^!
Alace
<Gentle>
00:22:59 (2,3,4,5) - spacing

<Shin>
00:46:26 (2,3,4,5,6) - a bit out of screen
Nice hitsounds~
Topic Starter
Paulo8624
Fixed!
rust45
[Relaxing]
This one's fine, maybe you could've been more creative with your spacing but it's find. Just one thing though...
00:44:09 (1,2) - Have these sliders end a half tick earlier, it sounds better IMO

[Gentle Death]
Great job, you were more creative in this one, a few things though.
00:09:48 (2) - Tale this out, it doesn't sync to anything.
00:10:92 (7) - ^
00:52:77 (1,2,3,4) - While this looks pretty, the overlapping sliders make it hard to know where to move your mouse, in fact I think you can't get this ranked until you fix it.

[v0xtrot]
This is also, great, couldn't find any flaws, if I have to say anything though it would have to be to maybe make your jumps smaller, just maybe, I'm not saying to lose them, but maybe make them smaller.

[Shin's Chaos]
Found nothing wrong with it, I thought the spacing was really creative here.

[Overall]
Great job, keep going on, star!
Gens
Okay, real modding time.

[Overall]
- First time I ever skip this section :O I could bother you about Lead-In, since I always think that more than 1 sec is too much. But that is tooootally your choice.

[Kiai Time]
Kiai Time suggestions:
  1. 1st. 00:03:06 (Fountain)
  2. 2nd. 00:43:55 - 00:55:12 (Fountain) - 01:06:142 (End of Kiai)
  3. 3rd. 01:15:35 (Fountain)
I'd apply the same amount of Kiai on every Difficulty. You'll need each mapper's permission though. (And Shin's Chaos would probably mess up the hitsounds...)
So yeah, just a suggestion.

[Timing]
Offset: 364?

[Relaxing] (I'm amazed you didn't use the ~ :P)
Seems fine to me.

[Gentle Death]
Good work. :D

[v0xtrot]
01:09:39 (3,4,5,6) - This doesn't makes sense IMO... Could you change it to a more fitting pattern or something?

[Shin's Chaos]
- Some parts of the "Normal Sampleset" section lack hitsounds. Not claps, nor whistles, only finishes... They really fit the song, you know. I like how did you mixed Soft and Normal, though.

~ ~ ~

So yeah, like I said before, pretty much flawless. It looks like it's already ranked!
K2J
[Relaxing]
Good!

[Gentle Death]
Great!

[v0xtrot]
Radical!

[Shin's Chaos]
00:19:87 (3) - I disagree with the Kiai time here. I suggest making it shorter.

Otherwise, great job. Star.
mtmcl
I have no complaints. It was hard for me, but that's about it. Nothing too unreadable.

Bubb+star
Metroid
Why does the melody sound like Sk8tr boi in EBA?
Wow, the anime's story line if Fucked up...

Relaxing
No Issues...

Gentle Death
No Issues...

v0trot
No Issues...

Shin's Chaos
No Issues...

Starred' for lack of issues..
No Kudos please.
mm201
I am mapping the full version of this song, edited for length, in an authentic style, and have been for a period of months.

It seems my map will be very different from both this map and the 2007 map, so I don't have any concerns.

Just thought you might like to know.
Echo
I won't pop this bubble, but I want to know why you're having two kiai times at 00:44:09 and 00:46:98 instead of something like 00:44:09 and 00:55:66 in relaxing/gentle death.

Also imo shin's map is completely incomprehensible, but the other mods don't seem to mind, so meh.
Topic Starter
Paulo8624
It's because, for me, the chorus ends in 00:55:11, and has it's peak moments at 00:44:09 and 00:46:98 respectively. It doesn't feel like anything else after that deserves kiai.
Echo
I think the chorus starts at 00:44:09 and finishes at the end of the song :P
Topic Starter
Paulo8624
Oh well, I think that 50% of a song made of Kiai is a little too much... Sometimes we have to be selective about Kiai, but if any other BAT complain about that, I'll change it
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