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akrolsmir - 4 (Chris, Two, Salvage, animask)
Salvage - 1 (Backfire)
Chris - 1 (LadySuburu)
LadySuburu - 1 (Ivalset)
pieguy1372 - 1 (adam2046)
Salvage - 1 (Backfire)
Chris - 1 (LadySuburu)
LadySuburu - 1 (Ivalset)
pieguy1372 - 1 (adam2046)
so can the rest of the mafia vote for akrolsmir so this day can be over
I unvoted Salvage, Wojjan.
Well ok, Unvote.
Well ok, Unvote.
did everyone give up already or something
I mean I know it's impossible for mafia to win but you shouldn't quit d1
it might turn around somehow
I mean I know it's impossible for mafia to win but you shouldn't quit d1
it might turn around somehow
Two, what game are you from? None of The Werewolf Game roles fit what you're currently claiming to have.
Why are you so sensitive omg. You aren't doing much more helpful then a lurker if you keep on complaing over people reading the thread. Make you own thoughts if you think the thread isn't moving fast enough.
I'm going to read what akro has said before voting. Untill then, no votes from me.
I'm going to read what akro has said before voting. Untill then, no votes from me.
according to ladysuburu salvage and akrolsmir, mafia have an ability similar to mine
thats why I called salvage mafia
it's pretty obvious
it's pretty obvious
akrolsmir wrote:
Two, what game are you from? None of The Werewolf Game roles fit what you're currently claiming to have.
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Er, what?Two wrote:
according to ladysuburu salvage and akrolsmir, mafia have an ability similar to mine
your confusion only reinforces my suspicions
it also lets me know that you guys either don't have daychat or are horrible
it also lets me know that you guys either don't have daychat or are horrible
maybe that means they will be more organized d2 and have a story to stick withTwo wrote:
your confusion only reinforces my suspicions
it also lets me know that you guys either don't have daychat or are horrible
Stop ignoring parts of posts that are inconvenient to you.
I'd also be much obliged if you could actually explain your arguments rather than have us take your word as fact. Why are you so reluctant to have us understand your thought process?
I'd also be much obliged if you could actually explain your arguments rather than have us take your word as fact. Why are you so reluctant to have us understand your thought process?
I thought it was obvious he meant you're mafia with the power to kill off softclaimsakrolsmir wrote:
Stop ignoring parts of posts that are inconvenient to you.
I'd also be much obliged if you could actually explain your arguments rather than have us take your word as fact. Why are you so reluctant to have us understand your thought process?
thats why you and salvage and ladysuburu are so for giving up game names
there was nothing unclear about what I said
all 3 of you (ladysuburu, salvage, akrolsmir) were game fishing
I can only imagine that you have a way to get around my bulletproof through knowing my game name, and want to make sure I didn't lie about it before using it (it could have a negative effect like my role)
all 3 of you (ladysuburu, salvage, akrolsmir) were game fishing
I can only imagine that you have a way to get around my bulletproof through knowing my game name, and want to make sure I didn't lie about it before using it (it could have a negative effect like my role)
Okay, thank you very much. That wasn't so hard, was it?
Now, unless someone can remember a game which had a day serial killer, it should be patently obvious that Two is lying about his role.
Now, unless someone can remember a game which had a day serial killer, it should be patently obvious that Two is lying about his role.
lol @ you still trying to dig up games with serial killers subtlyakrolsmir wrote:
Okay, thank you very much. That wasn't so hard, was it?
Now, unless someone can remember a game which had a day serial killer, it should be patently obvious that Two is lying about his role.
no not gonna help you sorry
Who knows. Some kind of day vig. You haven't shown us any proof of needing to know the game of a person to gain lynchproof, or anything.
@chris- The point was just to disprove Two's insane roleclaim.
@chris- The point was just to disprove Two's insane roleclaim.
considering my role I really doubt his claim is fake
i'd suggest you to read my post when i asked two about his game chris .. cause idk how you know he can win with town (no sk can win with half the votes as far as i know)
plus i hardly doubt there are much mafia members in that list .. 1 or 2 max i think, and it's more probabble that he hits town (x2 town deaths 1 day .. maybe 3 if misslynch), on the long run that won't help town and you're encouraging it too much .. why is it?
plus i hardly doubt there are much mafia members in that list .. 1 or 2 max i think, and it's more probabble that he hits town (x2 town deaths 1 day .. maybe 3 if misslynch), on the long run that won't help town and you're encouraging it too much .. why is it?
cause it's impossible for mafia to win using this strategySalvage wrote:
on the long run that won't help town and you're encouraging it too much .. why is it?
duh
but you wouldn't understand how that is due to the fact mafia don't have to comprehend whats being said in the game
yeah you're not making sense at all chris .. and trying to saying that cause i don't get you're weird logic then i'm mafia .. rofl.
you said you win with half the votes, that's what i pointed out.
Two wrote:
for the last time, I don't win with town
you said you win with half the votes, that's what i pointed out.
yes, that means I have to be alive with 1 other person in order to win
Honestly what akrolsmir is saying does make sense. The first thread clearly said 'Every role in this game is going to refer to a character in a mafia game'. If you don't have a game to match your roleclaim is very hard to believe. It's entirely plausible that he's a standard SK who made the whole game names thing up to guarantee himself a win. I'm not saying we should try to lynch him now, as long as he kills who we say to kill he is worth having around and if he is telling the truth we would miss the lynch.
We have to lynch him eventually though. If he is really lynchproof, and the people who softclaimed didn't lie we are completely fucked. But since he's unwilling to back up his roleclaim, that seems unlikely.
We have to lynch him eventually though. If he is really lynchproof, and the people who softclaimed didn't lie we are completely fucked. But since he's unwilling to back up his roleclaim, that seems unlikely.
except the fact that if he can kill based off softclaims that leaves it completely open that mafia can benefit off of it as well
and no we don't have to lynch him ever
and no we don't have to lynch him ever
the way I see it isTwo wrote:
aw thx chris
1.) you help kill everybody off faster
2.) i'm invincible, you/mafia can't kill me
3.) 1:1 will be me + you assuming you really are bulletproof
town eliminates all mafia and you get 1:1
we both win
if you're a tree stump you have no vote and would lose by default
I'm notTwo wrote:
if you're a tree stump you have no vote and would lose by default
wojjan counted my vote remember
that's a really believable role then ..
well i don't really care about two as long as he helps town but eventually it'll hurt town since as i already said i actually don't think that there is more than 2 mafia in that list, maybe only 1,
it's not really nessesary that he softclaim cause it's right it can help mafia too, but how would he help town at all in case there is no more than 1 mafia in that list for example? ..
killing towns faster for a mafia win?. That's what i'm talking about him and i can't see how is that hard to understand it Chris .. maybe cause u want towns to die faster.
well i don't really care about two as long as he helps town but eventually it'll hurt town since as i already said i actually don't think that there is more than 2 mafia in that list, maybe only 1,
it's not really nessesary that he softclaim cause it's right it can help mafia too, but how would he help town at all in case there is no more than 1 mafia in that list for example? ..
killing towns faster for a mafia win?. That's what i'm talking about him and i can't see how is that hard to understand it Chris .. maybe cause u want towns to die faster.
I want you all to die actually besides twoSalvage wrote:
killing towns faster for a mafia win?. That's what i'm talking about him and i can't see how is that hard to understand it Chris .. maybe cause u want towns to die faster.
You know, I dunno if you guys said this yet, but how many mafia are we supposedly looking at? 3 or 4?
no more than 6
6-22 seems fair but with two being a SK it probably is 5
6-22 seems fair but with two being a SK it probably is 5
Huh.
Well...Whats say the possibility that all of you are mafia then? Theres really only 4 or 5 of you talking.
Im just examining, since sometimes, I get a little fishy feeling of all this talk of town auto winning. I mean, I don't NOT trust you but...theres still a possibility.
Well...Whats say the possibility that all of you are mafia then? Theres really only 4 or 5 of you talking.
Im just examining, since sometimes, I get a little fishy feeling of all this talk of town auto winning. I mean, I don't NOT trust you but...theres still a possibility.
I just think one of you is leading us all along while the others just agree.
the possibility is nil
however, the probability that you are mafia for asking how many mafia there are is high
however, the probability that you are mafia for asking how many mafia there are is high
I was asking because I only saw about 5 of you actively getting involved.
ladysuburu salvage akrolsmir animask pieguy
imo
but with your last post maybe you instead of pieguy
imo
but with your last post maybe you instead of pieguy
yes salvage, mafia roleclaim roles that are confirmed by the host easily
a brilliant mind
a brilliant mind
of course there is always the possibility of lilac/lybydose since they have posted 0
I said that if I get the game wrong, wojjan will say in the thread that I am a serial killer
you know, as the penalty for getting it wrong
so tell me how that makes sense to claim as mafia
you know, as the penalty for getting it wrong
so tell me how that makes sense to claim as mafia
Lilac hasn't posted in the forums for 3 days
Lybydose on the other hand, has been on a good bit.
Lybydose on the other hand, has been on a good bit.
Wait wait, Lybydose posted 3 times here.
Two wrote:
I said that if I get the game wrong, wojjan will say in the thread that I am a serial killer
you know, as the penalty for getting it wrong
so tell me how that makes sense to claim as mafia
oh, i never said you're mafia i think ..?
ohBackfire wrote:
Wait wait, Lybydose posted 3 times here.
I didn't even notice
I think we're focusing on Two a little Two much here.
Also, I read somewhere that stumps might need to roleclaim as stump first in order for their effect to work. Haven't
seen it around here before, but its possible. (What makes you think there could be a stump anyways?)
This makes me think that Two is actually a stump... or up to something as usual.
Does Two want us to soft-claim? At first he did, but for a different reason. This has probably been discussed in some form or another, but
Two is hiding a lot of information. I get the feeling he is trying to defend himself in some way. I doubt that this he is in the mafia that does DK instead of NK. So his role only seems questionable after the vig/SK part.
Actually, back to the stump part. I bet the mod is going to roleclaim Two as stump making him useless.
Also, I read somewhere that stumps might need to roleclaim as stump first in order for their effect to work. Haven't
seen it around here before, but its possible. (What makes you think there could be a stump anyways?)
This makes me think that Two is actually a stump... or up to something as usual.
Does Two want us to soft-claim? At first he did, but for a different reason. This has probably been discussed in some form or another, but
Two is hiding a lot of information. I get the feeling he is trying to defend himself in some way. I doubt that this he is in the mafia that does DK instead of NK. So his role only seems questionable after the vig/SK part.
Actually, back to the stump part. I bet the mod is going to roleclaim Two as stump making him useless.
Also, more content, less posts? You guys take pages to talk about a single subject or barely anything at all. Missing the Mafia IRC chat?
two roleclaim stump see if wojjan posts anything
you know what I change my mind shoot animask first
you know what I change my mind shoot animask first
about the stump thing two said it cause chris claiemd to be inmortal and that's what stumps are, how him being a stump would even make sense?
I'd rather not roleclaim anything for fear of a mafia effect
Lynch-proof is similar to being a stump. They both can make you... lynchproof.Salvage wrote:
about the stump thing two said it cause chris claiemd to be inmortal and that's what stumps are, how him being a stump would even make sense?
obviously chris and I are both treestumps in the treestump cult, taken from host's poison game
You do realize Lilac is gone till D2 or something, right?
Right now, it's stupid to rolefish from a person we are not even close to lynch, because of the possibility of mafia advantaging from it. We will be gathering more info of Two's role as Day pases and more actions he does. Lynching Two right now wouldn't be really favourable (I think we have talked about this a lot already, right?)
Nothing stroke me heard when I was reading akro's ISO, but when he said "we know for a fact the mafia have fakeclaims" it makes me curious how he is accepting this as a fact when we could only go as far as just an assumption. Slip?
Lynches I'm okay with for D1: LS, Salvage, akro, NoHItter, Lyby
NoHItter's inactiveness worries me. This is unusual for NoHItter as I remember from previous games
Lyby: Same as NoHItter, unusually inactive
Right now, it's stupid to rolefish from a person we are not even close to lynch, because of the possibility of mafia advantaging from it. We will be gathering more info of Two's role as Day pases and more actions he does. Lynching Two right now wouldn't be really favourable (I think we have talked about this a lot already, right?)
Nothing stroke me heard when I was reading akro's ISO, but when he said "we know for a fact the mafia have fakeclaims" it makes me curious how he is accepting this as a fact when we could only go as far as just an assumption. Slip?
Lynches I'm okay with for D1: LS, Salvage, akro, NoHItter, Lyby
NoHItter's inactiveness worries me. This is unusual for NoHItter as I remember from previous games
Lyby: Same as NoHItter, unusually inactive
bmin11 wrote:
Nothing stroke me heard when I was reading akro's ISO, but when he said "we know for a fact the mafia have fakeclaims" it makes me curious how he is accepting this as a fact when we could only go as far as just an assumption. Slip?
Wojjan wrote:
Those that I replace with different roles shall be given to the mafia as fakeclaims.
Because, as you see, I'm mafia that wins with town.
Oh right. Thanks akro. Now I'm seriously FoSing people who have claimed since that would be an easy way to earn town points without much risks they would take. Well, not until we found out Two's role heh
if you'd like to share details without full on roleclaiming (but in a more direct way than swiftwolf) we may consider not lynching you today
As I said, my role is indeed from a role from games in this forum. The win condition is different from the game it is from, but the method it uses to use it's ability is the same. Most importantly, my role is town-aligned.
I think this is the safest I can every get.
I think this is the safest I can every get.
o.o I'm not even sure what's going on.
Given Two he's obviously hiding something, but we have no way of figuring out exactly what it is. I propose at this point we just go on and if we reach a contradiction based on his information, we'll have more insight as to what his role actually is.
Given Two he's obviously hiding something, but we have no way of figuring out exactly what it is. I propose at this point we just go on and if we reach a contradiction based on his information, we'll have more insight as to what his role actually is.
This is so god damn obnoxious. Something about 3 Two's?
We have a clearly anti-town role looking for a bid to win through mutual interests, which don't actually favour us any more than an extra mislynch.
We have an invincible 'town' that wants to champion the whole game and half a roster of no opinions.
I'm going to address this right now;
It's completely naive to think you're 100% guaranteed to be the last 2 standing. If just 2 mafia slip through the lynch/killing then you and Two are finished, they'll win by default. A 1:1 means Two wins by default. He's already stated he doesn't win with town and as far as I'm concerned, won't joint win.
What you put forward there is basically an excuse to have free reign in the killing of who you see fit (and if someone disagrees, bam votes and threats of shooting), regardless of alignment under the guise that you will champion this whole game yourself and everyone else is just a filler. I'm quite annoyed to see that no one is disagreeing with you at all, just going "Hmm I don't know, let's attack whoever they are to get on their good side!".
You two are also (or is it just Two, but right now I'm lumping you together for your extensive buddying) seem to be attempting to coerce people into claiming. Does no one see a problem with that at all?
Quite frankly I've had enough and just going to say that both of you are about as anti-town as you can publically get in my eyes. Go ahead and scumpaint me all you want now. I just don't care.
Vote: Chris
Convince me otherwise. Then again you probably won't try and attempt to get me killed.
We have a clearly anti-town role looking for a bid to win through mutual interests, which don't actually favour us any more than an extra mislynch.
We have an invincible 'town' that wants to champion the whole game and half a roster of no opinions.
I'm going to address this right now;
No one knows what alignment you are. I don't care what you say, you are hardly confirmed. I'm not willing to bet the whole game on this giant festival of wifom. From my perspective you asking me to trust you on that is like me asking you to trust me on the exact same thing... see the problem there?Chris wrote:
the way I see it is
1.) you help kill everybody off faster
2.) i'm invincible, you/mafia can't kill me
3.) 1:1 will be me + you assuming you really are bulletproof
town eliminates all mafia and you get 1:1
we both win
It's completely naive to think you're 100% guaranteed to be the last 2 standing. If just 2 mafia slip through the lynch/killing then you and Two are finished, they'll win by default. A 1:1 means Two wins by default. He's already stated he doesn't win with town and as far as I'm concerned, won't joint win.
What you put forward there is basically an excuse to have free reign in the killing of who you see fit (and if someone disagrees, bam votes and threats of shooting), regardless of alignment under the guise that you will champion this whole game yourself and everyone else is just a filler. I'm quite annoyed to see that no one is disagreeing with you at all, just going "Hmm I don't know, let's attack whoever they are to get on their good side!".
You two are also (or is it just Two, but right now I'm lumping you together for your extensive buddying) seem to be attempting to coerce people into claiming. Does no one see a problem with that at all?
Quite frankly I've had enough and just going to say that both of you are about as anti-town as you can publically get in my eyes. Go ahead and scumpaint me all you want now. I just don't care.
Vote: Chris
Convince me otherwise. Then again you probably won't try and attempt to get me killed.
you can't lynch one invincible, might as well go for the other, right?
I have no qualms about lynching you over akrolsmir rantai, though it would sadden me a bit since you've put more into 1 post than all of his posts combined
I have no qualms about lynching you over akrolsmir rantai, though it would sadden me a bit since you've put more into 1 post than all of his posts combined
I'd love to lynch you. But, unfortunately, you have some evidence of telling the truth so risking the lynch is not worth it. Right now I'm only comfortable with either of you simply because of how blatantly selfish and scummy (add on lacking integrity, trust) both your plays are at the moment.Two wrote:
you can't lynch one invincible, might as well go for the other, right?
I just don't see how it can be glossed over so easily. It's like an innate fear or something.
selfish is silently picking off people
I am extending a hand. I want to work together
chris was the only one who actually claimed something and it frankly doesn't matter if it's a lie since it's foolish to lynch someone who does that day 1
I am extending a hand. I want to work together
chris was the only one who actually claimed something and it frankly doesn't matter if it's a lie since it's foolish to lynch someone who does that day 1
Extend that to a mafia who has a safe claim. Add on a claimed unkillable role (weren't you the one who didn't believe bulletproof/NK proof claims in another game?) and that mafia have countermeasures so claiming at all is a risk in itself. What I see there is something fabricated as he cannot/doesn't need to verify it.
I understand your outwards intentions and just because it's you I am not completely disregarding it's trustworthiness (but I am 95% skeptical).
I understand your outwards intentions and just because it's you I am not completely disregarding it's trustworthiness (but I am 95% skeptical).
Chris are you lynchproof also?
I'm not sure about chris, but I'm still firmly convinced that Two wins with town- the fact that it is Two should give you more, not less reason to doubt the authenticity of his statements.
And the plan of having chris and Two win at the end was just so ridiculous that I didn't bother worrying about it. There are about a hundred different things that would likely go wrong before then, planning the entire game on day 1 based on a claim from Two makes no sense.
And the plan of having chris and Two win at the end was just so ridiculous that I didn't bother worrying about it. There are about a hundred different things that would likely go wrong before then, planning the entire game on day 1 based on a claim from Two makes no sense.
Sigh.Two wrote:
for the last time, I don't win with town
@bmin
By inactive you mean not posting every 12 hours then lol.
I'm posting my usual self, but it's being supplanted by everyone else.
Did Chris just claim independent and lynchproof/bulletproof?
Does anyone else think that we have too many "Don't lynch me." roles?
Plus he also wants he and Two to be alone at the endgame.
HoS: Chris
I would prefer a Chris lynch a lot now.
By inactive you mean not posting every 12 hours then lol.
I'm posting my usual self, but it's being supplanted by everyone else.
Did Chris just claim independent and lynchproof/bulletproof?
Does anyone else think that we have too many "Don't lynch me." roles?
Plus he also wants he and Two to be alone at the endgame.
HoS: Chris
I would prefer a Chris lynch a lot now.
and I would prefer an akrolsmir lynch more now
at first when we were voting him I was like "ok akrolsmir is definitely town" because of how easy it appeared
then when I saw the actual votecount and and lack of enthusiasm in general I changed my mind to "maybe"
with this resistance, he is now definitely mafia in my mind
at first when we were voting him I was like "ok akrolsmir is definitely town" because of how easy it appeared
then when I saw the actual votecount and and lack of enthusiasm in general I changed my mind to "maybe"
with this resistance, he is now definitely mafia in my mind
i actually think that akro is most likely mafia, even tho what Rantai says it's pretty logic .. we would we risking a no-lynch in case he's telling the truth .. that i really really doubt but it's not worth taking that risk imo.
Two's role smells like a huge pile of bullshit. I highly doubt Wojjan would include a role that could only win if people mass claimed, something he specifically recommended not doing.
It's "convenient" that the role just so happens to make him immune to death.
It's alarming that people are actually willing to follow him for some reason. It's even more alarming that one person, Chris, is proposing that we can't possibly lose since he is bulletproof + Two is everything proof (except it's still completely possible to lose if the mafia outnumber the town, plus this situation would result in only Two winning anyway).
I'm thinking Two is actually mafia with the ability to kill people who claim. One of Wojjan's "anti-claim" measures. The amount of damage such a role could do if left unquestioned is huge with the number of people that have game claimed thus far. It would be stupid to lynch him though, because there's still the slight chance he's actually telling the truth and a role this stupid exists.
I propose that Two intentionally guess the wrong game for someone Day 2. If he's been telling the truth all along, he will be "exposed as the SK" after guessing wrong. Otherwise we will know he's been lying this whole time.
It's "convenient" that the role just so happens to make him immune to death.
It's alarming that people are actually willing to follow him for some reason. It's even more alarming that one person, Chris, is proposing that we can't possibly lose since he is bulletproof + Two is everything proof (except it's still completely possible to lose if the mafia outnumber the town, plus this situation would result in only Two winning anyway).
I'm thinking Two is actually mafia with the ability to kill people who claim. One of Wojjan's "anti-claim" measures. The amount of damage such a role could do if left unquestioned is huge with the number of people that have game claimed thus far. It would be stupid to lynch him though, because there's still the slight chance he's actually telling the truth and a role this stupid exists.
I propose that Two intentionally guess the wrong game for someone Day 2. If he's been telling the truth all along, he will be "exposed as the SK" after guessing wrong. Otherwise we will know he's been lying this whole time.
Lybydose, I'm not immune to death. You should be familiar with the concept of a strongarm. Is there a reason why you're excluding that from your argument?
What's alarming to me is how quickly the group of you are willing to throw away a potential bulletproof player (chris). Even if he isn't bulletproof, there are other town reasons for him to have claimed to be. The only logical reason to vote for him today is if you don't want to deal with that as mafia.
Lybydose, you don't have to worry about me intentionally getting a game wrong. I am sure I will with one of the first people I try to kill.
What's alarming to me is how quickly the group of you are willing to throw away a potential bulletproof player (chris). Even if he isn't bulletproof, there are other town reasons for him to have claimed to be. The only logical reason to vote for him today is if you don't want to deal with that as mafia.
Lybydose, you don't have to worry about me intentionally getting a game wrong. I am sure I will with one of the first people I try to kill.
I'm thinking Two is actually mafia with the ability to kill people who claim. One of Wojjan's "anti-claim" measures. The amount of damage such a role could do if left unquestioned is huge with the number of people that have game claimed thus far. It would be stupid to lynch him though, because there's still the slight chance he's actually telling the truth and a role this stupid exists.woah, someone else thought exactly what I was thinking...
I agree with Lyby's proposition, of course.
lets review:
Day 1 mafia tell: minimal posting
Day 1 town tell: offering information
now who did what
Day 1 mafia tell: minimal posting
Day 1 town tell: offering information
now who did what
I guess a boatload of incorrect and misleading information is still information.