Wasn't trying to imply anyone should be replaced/removed, just reminding everyone to keep things civil.
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we're long past that point
not really
we were civil and then (now) only I was civil---------------
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we were civil and then (now) only I was civil---------------
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yeah man calling someone a fucking retard and drooling idiot every 2 posts is civil
I mean we were civil for a long period of time up until this point, when you turned aggressive from your ragequit
Yeah you were civil for like 12 hours, so I guess you're off the hookTwo wrote:
I mean we were civil for a long period of time up until this point, when you turned aggressive from your ragequit
I don't subscribe to the idea that I'm guilty of anything, just like correcting you
keep having your tantrum though
keep having your tantrum though
This game is getting pretty ridiculous
I'm not gonna spend my time reading teenage-level bullshit when I have academic/athletic commitments to make, act up or I'm out.
My vote stands; I would also like to voice the opinion that Town is relying far too much on Two, which is going to hurt us ultimately. Mafia is not a game that is a couple of Days long. Or for that matter, six.
I'm not gonna spend my time reading teenage-level bullshit when I have academic/athletic commitments to make, act up or I'm out.
My vote stands; I would also like to voice the opinion that Town is relying far too much on Two, which is going to hurt us ultimately. Mafia is not a game that is a couple of Days long. Or for that matter, six.
Yeah... innate fear of opposing Two is showing hard here.
Willing to follow him as a town, mafia or confirmed anti-town. I'm really, really saddened.
Nonetheless I'm keeping my vote, just another appeal-er.
Also explain to me how this bandwagon started, I remain confused under what logic it had basis on. As far as I can tell, Lyby made it very clear he was lying as to attempt to confirm Two D2 (I think you all know that confirming Two outright is a good thing for us). Then Lilac counterclaims the game (note; counterclaims an obvious lie) and then you all want to confirm one or the other when you already know the answer to one of their alignments.
I just don't understand you guys anymore.
Willing to follow him as a town, mafia or confirmed anti-town. I'm really, really saddened.
Nonetheless I'm keeping my vote, just another appeal-er.
Also explain to me how this bandwagon started, I remain confused under what logic it had basis on. As far as I can tell, Lyby made it very clear he was lying as to attempt to confirm Two D2 (I think you all know that confirming Two outright is a good thing for us). Then Lilac counterclaims the game (note; counterclaims an obvious lie) and then you all want to confirm one or the other when you already know the answer to one of their alignments.
I just don't understand you guys anymore.
Er alignments --> game
Oh yes I would also like to point out that you are now voting a basically confirmed town. Despite his role (which is optional) have we slipped to the point where we vote townies with evidence to back them up?
KRZY's and Rantai's posts pretty much sum up why I have no desire to play in this game any more.
in the unlikely case that I don't get modkilled, unvote, vote: JInxyjem and replace me
in the unlikely case that I don't get modkilled, unvote, vote: JInxyjem and replace me
unvote, vote: animask
It wouldn't even surprise me if Wojjan decided not to modkill Lyby for the lulz.
It wouldn't even surprise me if Wojjan decided not to modkill Lyby for the lulz.
I was going to make a long post to address both Rantai and KRZY but really I just can't see the point in it. I'm not going to appeal to your emotions, I'm just going to be blunt.
1. Mafia dying is my first priority
2. Lybydose being alive made it much more difficult for mafia to lose
3. I saw an opportunity for him to be lynched or close enough to lose his cool and went for it
The entire concept of me wanting to get rid of town instead of mafia is absurd. Try to put yourself in the shoes of a lynchproof neutral role. Who is your #1 priority?
1. Mafia dying is my first priority
2. Lybydose being alive made it much more difficult for mafia to lose
3. I saw an opportunity for him to be lynched or close enough to lose his cool and went for it
The entire concept of me wanting to get rid of town instead of mafia is absurd. Try to put yourself in the shoes of a lynchproof neutral role. Who is your #1 priority?
I was making a scummy joke, but ok.KRZY wrote:
- Adam is town. A mafia member would not make the post he did (the one where he says lynch Chris mafia kill Two and we don't have to deal with bullshit)
Offer's still up.
Unvote
Vote: Two Bam
Town, because if you try to hunt mafia, they kill you.Two wrote:
The entire concept of me wanting to get rid of town instead of mafia is absurd. Try to put yourself in the shoes of a lynchproof neutral role. Who is your #1 priority?
Meanwhile town is willing to follow a person who claims 4 scum roles.
Appealing to my emotions is quite pointless anyway, I appreciate bluntness and brutal honesty.
My #1 priority is getting rid of any anti-town forces and preserving any town if their death can be avoided. Also I'm especially not in the boat of following the whims of a SK. This is my view of what should be done for town and no matter what insults you bring forward, that will not change.
I won't pretend I know what a neutral should and shouldn't do, I have played a neutral once and that was in a game with no mafia at all.
Lybydose being alive made it much harder for you to win as far as I could tell, seeing as he wanted to confirm you and all that stuff. Because you being alive is of almost no benefit to town, unless having an un-killable SK is a benefit (?).
Explain to me how him being alive helped mafia so I my be enlightened by your point of view. If anything you being alive helps mafia by killing off townies 1 by 1.
My #1 priority is getting rid of any anti-town forces and preserving any town if their death can be avoided. Also I'm especially not in the boat of following the whims of a SK. This is my view of what should be done for town and no matter what insults you bring forward, that will not change.
I won't pretend I know what a neutral should and shouldn't do, I have played a neutral once and that was in a game with no mafia at all.
Lybydose being alive made it much harder for you to win as far as I could tell, seeing as he wanted to confirm you and all that stuff. Because you being alive is of almost no benefit to town, unless having an un-killable SK is a benefit (?).
Explain to me how him being alive helped mafia so I my be enlightened by your point of view. If anything you being alive helps mafia by killing off townies 1 by 1.
Lybydose's m.o. was to directly oppose everything I did. It's pretty easy for him to do that, too, since many people will discard my substance due to my tone (and gravitate towards any opposition). As I said before, my m.o. is to eliminate mafia. If someone has their heart, and I stress the word heart, set on trying to prevent me from doing that, they become an asset to mafia.
Unfortunately you have an iron grip on 75% of the player base here so not many people will attempt to oppose you. (Respect for being able to do that though)Two wrote:
Lybydose's m.o. was to directly oppose everything I did. It's pretty easy for him to do that, too, since many people will discard my substance due to my tone (and gravitate towards any opposition). As I said before, my m.o. is to eliminate mafia. If someone has their heart, and I stress the word heart, set on trying to prevent me from doing that, they become an asset to mafia.
In my perspective (Let's face it, we are not going to see eye to eye here), his actions helped town because the only 'opposition' he presented to you was that he wanted to make sure you were actually an SK. I understand you want to help eliminate mafia. However understand that getting rid of you is in town's best interest as much as killing a mafia. Also ridding you earlier is much more beneficial than ridding you later.
The extra lynch you provide us reduces the time we get (ie shorten our maximum potential days) to scum hunt traditionally (you have to admit that town has won plenty of games via this method) and reduces the number of times we may gather information from other sources. To be honest your public shooting has the same effect as if you were a traditional SK (your objective is to find mafia both ways, correct?).
There was something else I was going to say but I blanked. Thanks for keeping it clear and calm.
Ahh yes, your presence is also distracting the town heavily. (75% of everything is revolving around you, my fault partly but the point is there)
Meaning we're focusing less on finding them and more on what you believe is right or wrong, instead of working together and coming to a consensus.
Meaning we're focusing less on finding them and more on what you believe is right or wrong, instead of working together and coming to a consensus.
The difference between day and night kills is pretty big. Day is inherently more pro-town since you can discuss before the kill, after the kill, and then make an educated lynch.
Pretend you are me again and think about it this way. You know for a fact your role will be confirmed if you guess wrong. You know for a fact mafia have fake claims. Because of that, the chance that mafia fake claimed during your bid for game names was high. To be clearer, you know there is a good chance that the first time you use your ability you will guess wrong, confirm someone as mafia, and be confirmed yourself.
There truly is no point to intentionally getting it wrong, don't you think?
Pretend you are me again and think about it this way. You know for a fact your role will be confirmed if you guess wrong. You know for a fact mafia have fake claims. Because of that, the chance that mafia fake claimed during your bid for game names was high. To be clearer, you know there is a good chance that the first time you use your ability you will guess wrong, confirm someone as mafia, and be confirmed yourself.
There truly is no point to intentionally getting it wrong, don't you think?
I will not deny this. But with the method you propose, it's a huge risk with possibly negative outcomes (you address this later, I will continue there)Two wrote:
The difference between day and night kills is pretty big. Day is inherently more pro-town since you can discuss before the kill, after the kill, and then make an educated lynch.
My problem that I see here is that claiming a game is significantly more safer than claiming a role. With there being more than 22 games in this forum (I think, correct me if I am wrong) they can do a legit claim and never be caught, so I see very little incentive to lie. Now if the mafia claimed and you kill them, yes this is a good thing for all of us. BUT that means you cannot be removed.Two wrote:
Pretend you are me again and think about it this way. You know for a fact your role will be confirmed if you guess wrong. You know for a fact mafia have fake claims. Because of that, the chance that mafia fake claimed during your bid for game names was high. To be clearer, you know there is a good chance that the first time you use your ability you will guess wrong, confirm someone as mafia, and be confirmed yourself.
This goes under the idea that claiming a game hardly points out an alignment.
I agree and what I think is killing off the claims systematically is closer to the intentionally getting it wrong side than not.Two wrote:
There truly is no point to intentionally getting it wrong, don't you think?
Hasty, I am.
Also we also run the risk that all claims were town claims. Or possibly only 1 claim was mafia, etc etc.
Also we also run the risk that all claims were town claims. Or possibly only 1 claim was mafia, etc etc.
This game isn't fun anymore.
People are supposed to have fun finding out who are the mafia, but reading through the flame wars, I don't think this particular game IS fun anymore.
There's a line between "You're lying and you're arguments suck!" and "You're such an idiot. Can you even read *insert nursery book here*?"
Anyway, back to the game.
Lilac's claim strikes me odd... I don't think scum would claim a game out in the open like that, but at the same time Lybydose's role came from Touhou PyP.
I think Lilac should fullclaim his role.
Given that LS is probably going to get targeted, I think Lilac should be safe as of tonight at least.
LS is likely dead due to his Medic claim which I think is real. The Medic in TF2 does do that, heal then ubercharge.
That leaves akro on my list.
People are supposed to have fun finding out who are the mafia, but reading through the flame wars, I don't think this particular game IS fun anymore.
There's a line between "You're lying and you're arguments suck!" and "You're such an idiot. Can you even read *insert nursery book here*?"
Anyway, back to the game.
Lilac's claim strikes me odd... I don't think scum would claim a game out in the open like that, but at the same time Lybydose's role came from Touhou PyP.
I think Lilac should fullclaim his role.
Given that LS is probably going to get targeted, I think Lilac should be safe as of tonight at least.
LS is likely dead due to his Medic claim which I think is real. The Medic in TF2 does do that, heal then ubercharge.
That leaves akro on my list.
Nexus was was from Normal PyP (LS).
nohitter the place for complaining about that was when it happened
not 30 pages later or whatever it was
not 30 pages later or whatever it was
Also anymore claims now is going to hurt us more with the 'unknown' counter measures they have.
Unless I missed something.
Unless I missed something.
Err scratch that.
I saw Two-shot from the role list of Touhou PyP.
Hmm that kind of brings Lilac back to my suspicions.
I'll reread the posts again.
I saw Two-shot from the role list of Touhou PyP.
Hmm that kind of brings Lilac back to my suspicions.
I'll reread the posts again.
why would it bring lilac under your suspicions when he didn't contest it (unless I missed something)
Two please stop your obnoxious attitude.
Your attitude is one of the reasons why this game is getting very unfun.
Now let me reread.
Your attitude is one of the reasons why this game is getting very unfun.
Now let me reread.
And ninja'd yet again :/
The post above was to reply to Two's "stop complaining post"
The post above was to reply to Two's "stop complaining post"
my attitude is entirely projected from yourself
nothing on this page has been laced with any attitude at all
nothing on this page has been laced with any attitude at all
The only reason why I though Lilac was sort of clear was because I thought Lybydose was really from Touhou and Lilac claimed.Two wrote:
why would it bring lilac under your suspicions when he didn't contest it (unless I missed something)
Hence, two people from one game.
Now that I learned I was wrong, I take back that "clear".
Yeah for the record at the time of my vote I forgot that Lyby's claim was in all likelyhood not serious.
I can't remember how much of an effect that would have had on my opinion of him, too much hindsight bias.
I can't remember how much of an effect that would have had on my opinion of him, too much hindsight bias.
Topic Starter
You unlocked the super secret win condition.
Lybydose, as per usual rules quoting your PM gets you modkilled, but half my mind is on issuing you a ban from any further games I might host after this one. Like Mashley, you could have EASILY asked for a replacement and probably receive it within the first day. Your behavior was not only not fun for anyone in the game, including me, and not only illegal as far as both mafia rules and outright common sense go, but also incredibly immature, a term which I honestly didn't expect to ever apply to you.
Right now I'm preoccupied with other obligations, so the actual end of day one may not be for until an hour or two. Pending an official day end while I tally up votes and write out the utterly pathetic lynch scene, you are all to treat this game as if it's in the night phase right now.
I am truly disappointed. I really did not expect this game to flop the way it did, especially after all the preparations I've been making for it, apparently all in futility.
Lybydose, as per usual rules quoting your PM gets you modkilled, but half my mind is on issuing you a ban from any further games I might host after this one. Like Mashley, you could have EASILY asked for a replacement and probably receive it within the first day. Your behavior was not only not fun for anyone in the game, including me, and not only illegal as far as both mafia rules and outright common sense go, but also incredibly immature, a term which I honestly didn't expect to ever apply to you.
Right now I'm preoccupied with other obligations, so the actual end of day one may not be for until an hour or two. Pending an official day end while I tally up votes and write out the utterly pathetic lynch scene, you are all to treat this game as if it's in the night phase right now.
I am truly disappointed. I really did not expect this game to flop the way it did, especially after all the preparations I've been making for it, apparently all in futility.
Well fuck.
Wojjan, no gay power roles in songfia. Srsly.
Wojjan wrote:
you are all to treat this game as if it's in the night phase right now..
We on?
A three-day Night?
But yeah, stop talking guys >.>
But yeah, stop talking guys >.>
Topic Starter
If I say "massclaims suck" and Lyby claims fuckin verbatim can you really blame me?
This is still happening, just not right now.
This is still happening, just not right now.
just ban him for life and that's it.
people who rages and break the game rules doesn't deserve to play anyways ^_^.
people who rages and break the game rules doesn't deserve to play anyways ^_^.
Just curious.
When is this going to continue?
Is the modkill of one player enough to stall this game for longer than a week?
When is this going to continue?
Is the modkill of one player enough to stall this game for longer than a week?
I just wanted to say that I suddenly and unexpectedly didn't have access to my (or any for that matter) PC for about the last two weeks. I really apologize, if it hadn't been so sudden I'd have requested a replacement.
I'm not even sure if I'm still in the game or not or if the game is even still going on (I only read this last page so far, so all I know is that Lyby was modkilled and this game has been on hold for a while or something?)
So yeah, sorry for disappearing without any notice.
(Just in case anyone checked my profile and saw my last login date regularly updated - I'm not the only one using this computer atm and osu! is one of my browser's homepages. So whenever someone wanted to use the Internet it's register a login)
I'm not even sure if I'm still in the game or not or if the game is even still going on (I only read this last page so far, so all I know is that Lyby was modkilled and this game has been on hold for a while or something?)
So yeah, sorry for disappearing without any notice.
(Just in case anyone checked my profile and saw my last login date regularly updated - I'm not the only one using this computer atm and osu! is one of my browser's homepages. So whenever someone wanted to use the Internet it's register a login)
Indefinitely on hold, you didn't miss anything.