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#2 osu! World Cup (Team vs) [Korea wins]

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TOURNAMENT SCHEDULE (GOOGLE DOCS)
CLICK.




SLOTS: 32/32

» Group Stage:

Group A — Japan \ Australia \ Denmark \ Germany \
Group B — Netherlands \ Philippines \ Hungary \ New Zealand \
Group C — Poland \ Norway \ Ukraine \ Indonesia \
Group D — Republic of Korea \ Canada \ Vietnam \ Hong Kong
Group E — Chile \ France \ Portugal \ Latvia \
Group F — Russian Federation \ Finland \ Malaysia \ Uruguay
Group G — Taiwan \ Sweden \ Bulgaria \ Brazil
Group H — United States \ Thailand \ Austria \ Argentina

The video from drawing can be found HERE.

You can also view the detailed group informations HERE .



» Official tournament rules.

» #1 Sign-ups:

1. The country will be represented by the captain, which will choose its players. The captain will be choosen in the forum national thread/IRC talk
by the trusted members. Basic English language knowledge is required from the person of captain.
2. To sign up, you need AT LEAST 4 players in the team. You can though sign-up with additional 2 players as the back-up in case of first players' absence. To sign-up simply post the team outline in this thread.
3. The sign-up time lasts from the day of 28th October to 21st November, 23:59 GMT+0 (3 weeks + 3 days).
4. The sign-ups automatically stop after reaching 32 participants.
5. If there's more attention to the tournament than we expect, the number of participants might be raised.

An example of sign-up post:

Country name:
Captain: Nickname1
Player1: Nickname2
Player2: Nickname3
Player3: Nickname4
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Nickname5
Back-up Player2: Nickname6

Time zone: GMT+0 (if you don't know your time zone, visit this site http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)

» #2 Playing informations:

1. We are looking for 32 teams from 32 countries. If there are less participants than we want, the tournament will be modeled according to the reached number.
2. In the first stage, the teams will be divided into 8 groups of 4 team in each one.
3. All the teams from each group will face each other.
4. 2 teams with the largest amount of points are being promoted to the 1/16 Cup Stage.


You can see the match schedule here:

CLICK.


» #3 Match informations:

1. 15 minutes before the match, the captains must contact each other and confirm the ready to play and the amount of players.
2. During the match, there must be 8 players on the server hosted by one of the captains, 4 players from each team.
3. One of the players (captain would be preferred) must capture screenshots of all of the map results.
4. Each round, the staff will announce the list of 15 beatmaps, from which the captains will be able to choose. 1 team chooses 2 beatmaps to play, however, we'd prefer if you prepare the third and fourth choice in case the opposed team chooses same maps. That means you play to 3 maps won.
5. In the case of a draw, an extra choosen map is played.
6. The settings of the server will be: osu! standard mode, "Team vs" mode and win condition: score.
7. The only allowed mod in-game is No Video.
8. The country with best total score on the map wins.
9. After the match, a captain of one of the teams must send a PM to fartownik or NatsumeRin with link to the Multiplayer History of the game and screenshots from all of the maps. If any of the captains won't do it, the match will be cancelled and a re-match will be needed.
10. The players can freely change themselves between the maps.


» #4 Other:

1. No more team than 1 from 1 country can sign-up to the tournament.
2. All of the team players' flag in the profile must be the same as their country's. However, it can be got around in special cases.
3. Any form of non-fair behaviour (such as cheating, insulting other players, racism) will be punished with an immediate banishment of the player/the team from the tournament.


» #5 Map list for the 1st Stage:



Map list for the 2nd Stage:



Maplist for the 3rd Stage:

Maplist for the Round of 16 (1/8 Stage):


Maplist for the Quarter-finals:


Maplist for the Semi-finals:

Maplist for the Final and 3rd place match:

Mappack.

Remember, you choose 3 BEATMAPS as a team from semi-finals round.


» #6 Prizes


1st Place:

6 months supporter tag for all playersA special profile badge for all players
2nd Place:

1 month supporter tag for all players
3rd Place:

1 month supporter tag for all players
» #7 Timetables and dates:

The Cup will start in the day of 21st November.
The proposed hours of the matches will be posted, but the captains of both teams might change the date after the discussion.


» Participants:



View text-lineups here
SPOILER
1. Germany
Captain: DoKoLP
Player1: SuperCracker
Player2: Blacky
Player3: ShadowSoul
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Asozial
Back-up Player2: Scanlatione


Time zone: GMT+1

2. Denmark
Captain: Emaal
Player1: PlasticSmoothie
Player2: m4w11
Player3: Circlemuncher

--------------------------
Back-up Player1: BongHat


Time zone: GMT+1


3. Norway
Captain: kriers
Player1: CXu
Player2: AndreasHD
Player3: Danzai

--------------------------
Back-up Player1: KinomiCandy
Back-up Player2: Oscarface92


Time zone: GMT+1

4. Argentina
Captain: Wishy22
Player1: Metro
Player2: Ever17
Player3: Darksonic
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Salvage
Back-up Player2: Glazbom


Time zone: GMT-3

5. Chile
Captain: nVidi4x
Player1: Mesita
Player2: Ignacio
Player3: Art-FzTT
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: b1choO
Back-up Player2: b4ss_


Time zone: GMT-3

6. Portugal
Captain: Mikutard
Player1: Makkura
Player2: Maraiga
Player3: Jonnythatjonny
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Back-up Player1: Pereira006
Back-up Player2: cococococo


Time-Zone: GMT+0 / GMT-1

7. Brazil
Captain: Blue Dragon
Player1: fabriciorby
Player2: Caco
Player3: antsu
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Back-up Player1: k3nsh1n_h1mur4
Back-up Player2: Katsuri


Time-Zone: GMT-3/ GMT-2

8. Netherlands
Captain: GladiOol
Player1: Lesjuh
Player2: eddieee
Player3: Awoken
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Back-up Player1: Henkie
Back-up Player2: zozozofun

Time-Zone:
GMT+1

9. Ukraine
Captain: gorlum
Player1: rockleejkooo
Player2: uljjang
Player3: [milky]
--------------------------
Back-up Player1:
Back-up Player2:

Time-Zone:
GMT+1

10. Vietnam
Captain: Misuzu-san
Player1: JerryC
Player2: Shin1801
Player3: BridgetteLSatellizer
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Back-up Player1: xLightningx
Back-up Player2: kira_lacus1995

Time-Zone:
GMT+7

11. Thailand
Captain: NonxE
Player1: Frostmourne
Player2: bufo
Player3: blackspell
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Back-up Player1: aumu1995
Back-up Player2: termerys

Time-zone: GMT+7


12. New Zealand
Captain: jiantz
Player1: kiiwa
Player2: numot123
Player3: bob_the_cat
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Back-up Player1: deadbeat
Back-up Player2: kwk
Time-Zone:
GMT+13

13. Philippines
Captain: C L O U D
Player1: Pizzicatto
Player2: jannnnnn
Player3: dayun10
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Back-up Player1: Osu Tatakae Ouendan
Back-up Player2: usagijirosan

Time-Zone:
GMT+8

14. Bulgaria
Captain: Lolicore Flandre
Player1: r-Beatz
Player2: Orihara Izaya
Player3: las7h0p3
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Back-up Player1: werewolf0girl
Back-up Player2: ColdChester

Time-Zone:
GMT+2

15. Sweden
Captain: Hanyuu-chan
Player1: Holmir
Player2: m4w11
Player3: Gyuunyu
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Back-up Player1: Failboat
Back-up Player2: Nidert

Time-Zone:
GMT+1

16. Indonesia
Captain: Hakeru Prismriver
Player1: xeqta
Player2: dNextGen
Player3: gatitoneku
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Back-up Player1: awell
Back-up Player2: awesomewithin

Time-Zone:
GMT+7

17. Uruguay
Captain: maay
Player1: Z e o n
Player2: GonixZ
Player3: H1ko
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Back-up Player1: Snepif
Back-up Player2: AlrdyExists

Time-Zone:
GMT-3

18. France
Captain: Odaril
Player1: _LRJ_
Player2: galvenize
Player3: Kanna
---------------
Back-up Player1: XPJ38
Back-up Player2: Mustaash

Timezone:
GMT+1

19. Hungary
Captain: Kuroi Mato
Player1: tasli
Player2: Kozuki Kallen
Player3: Higurush
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Back-up Player1: TaylorXIII
Back-up Player2: TsukishimaKirari x]

Timezone:
GMT+1

20. Canada
Captain: FurukawaPan
Player1: Glass
Player2: Silentwings
Player3: shaNk
---------------
Back-up Player1: YodaSnipe
Back-up Player2: Satonaka

Timezone:
GMT-5

21. Finland
Captain: ragelewa
Player1: Zapy
Player2: Orkel
Player3: Sutsuka
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Back-up Player1: heintsi
Back-up Player2: ethox

Timezone:
GMT+2

22. Hong Kong
Captain: KanaRin
Player1: Miu Matsuoka
Player2: Kirito47
Player3: henry04213
---------------
Back-up Player1: HineX
Back-up Player2: Pokie

Timezone:
GMT+8

23. Australia
Captain: Mizorex
Player1: damiaanzx
Player2: Hark
Player3: Frankcons
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Back-up Player1: Mikey
Back-up Player2: Neko_Lover

Timezone:
GMT+11

24. Poland
Captain: fartownik
Player1: White Wolf
Player2: rEdo
Player3: Kubu
---------------
Back-up Player1: Piotrekol
Back-up Player2:

Timezone:
GMT+1

25. Latvia
Captain: _Angel
Player1: GummyChan
Player2: LoGo
Player3: Vmx
---------------
Back-up Player1:
Back-up Player2:

Timezone:
GMT+2

26. Taiwan
Captain: Saya-Honmei
Player1: SnowWhite
Player2: YuyuKo sama
Player3: wizoza83098
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Back-up Player1: Tomoka Rin
Back-up Player2: ZRush

27. Republic of Korea

Captain: KRZY
Player1: mnto
Player2: K i R i K a R u
Player3: CheEZ
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Back-up Player1: Remilia-Scarlet
Back-up Player2: Reisen Udongein

28. Malaysia

Captain: akupp
Player1: xsrsbsns
Player2: RhaiizoN
Player3: Gon
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Back-up Player1: The 08 team_Bourdon
Back-up Player2: zenki0013

Time-zone: GMT+8


29. United States
Captain: Kyou-kun
Player1: Cyclone
Player2: Lybydose
Player3:
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Back-up Player1: geckogates
Back-up Player2: david huhh

Time-zone: GMT-5


30. Japan
Captain: SiLviA
Player1: Apricot
Player2: Flute
Player3: Iris
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Back-up Player1: Sinch
Back-up Player2: val0108

Time-zone: GMT+9


31. Russian Federation
Captain: Akai-
Player1: Vpalach
Player2: Kert
Player3: Rost94
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Back-up Player1: 646kapeh640
Back-up Player2: cr1m

Time-zone: GMT+4


32. Austria
Captain: -Lennox-
Player1: Snowball
Player2: Hanyuu
Player3: HakkeroHakkero
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Back-up Player1: novaaa
Back-up Player2: M A R I O

Time-zone: GMT+1


» Current staff:




» Important rule changes between 1st and 2nd edition:

1. 3 maps won by one of the teams gives them a match win. Not 2 maps like it was in the 1st edition.
2. The final maps will be choosen more carefully this time.
3. The teams will be divided into 8 groups of 4 teams each. 2 teams with the largest amount of points passes into the next stage.
4. The additional back-up players are not necessary, but we still prefer if you have at least 1 if there's a possibility.
5. Timezone needed in the post of team sign-up.


If you have any questions/suggestions, feel free to ask in this thread or pm me or NatsumeRin directly.
Topic Starter
fartownik
Neruell
Country name: Germany

Captain: Neruell
Player1: Shael
Player2: Blacky (Was allowed to participate for the german team due to this)
Player3: ShadowSoul

- - - - - - - - - -

Backup 1: DoKoLP
Backup 2: SuperCracker

Time zone: GMT +1
Topic Starter
fartownik

Neruell wrote:

Country name: Germany
Captain: Neruell
Player1: Shael
Player2: [on hold]
Player3: [on hold]

P.S. Will add more players very soon...
Please remember to add your timezone into the post.
It goes to all of the potential participants.
maal
Country name: Denmark
Captain: Emaal
Player1: PlasticSmoothie
Player2: Rena-chan
Player3: Circlemuncher


Time zone: GMT +1.

misunderstood. will look for others though, don't cut Denmark out just yet.
kriers
Time Zone: GMT + 1

Country name:Norway
Captain: kriers
Player1: CXu
Player2: AndreasHD
Player3: KinomiCandy

Back-up player 1: Danzai
Back-up player 2: Druidianna
Wishy
Hope this won't suck like last OWC.
Topic Starter
fartownik

Wishy22 wrote:

Hope this won't suck like last OWC.
Thanks, I will use your suggestion.
Wishy
Argentina

Captain: Wishy22 Confirmed
Player1: Metro Confirmed
Player2: Ever17 Confirmed
Player3: Darksonic Confirmed
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Salvage Confirmed
Back-up Player2: Glazbom Confirmed

Time zone: GMT-3

Team's Pet

FullFr0z

Female Cheerleaders

Mikumiku97, agussdg, KaoruEvans, ReMx, Vandalika.

Male Cheerleaders

Posse, -batt0, demodemo001, Fullback, grisuh, Hazenkain, Hernan, Jougan, lota78, Luffy, Masha-, Mategas, nhazgul, Pwnt, RockNRolla, Stille, tenchology, theProdigy violentt, Wawix, xsaturosx.
Plus:

1- I still have to talk with pretty much every team member but I'm sure we all are able to play. (Edited already)
2- Even when I haven't talked with anyone but Metro from that roster (edit: look at the ones Confirmed), I'm sure nobody from this team's gonna play if we got to play those qually again like last year. Which besides the fact that they were a disaster and many players couldn't attend, it was all about people who can't even clear insanes wasting our time (no offense). The team's gonna be the one I posted for sure and if there is anyone else from our country willing to make a team, we would gladly play against them to see which team should represent our country.
LightoHK

Wishy22 wrote:

Cheerleader 1: Mikumiku97 Confirmed
Yes ! \:D/
Froslass
oh god oh god

We'll try to find players for the Brazilian team soon. Just keep in mind that since it's November/starting December, most people here are busy due to final tests and stuff like that.
YodaSnipe
so exciting ^^
no double elimination?
NatsumeRin
ok it has started...
lepidopodus
You know, previous OWC was ok until the final...
Megurine Luka
Yah here it comes.

Good luck to everyone \:D/

I can't wait to see Asian's players list.
YodaSnipe
I wonder what the lineup for Canada is this year. Perhaps I could be backup #2 :D
Topic Starter
fartownik

YodaSnipe wrote:

so exciting ^^
no double elimination?
Nope. Since we have team dividing in 1st phase additional matches aren't necessary.
Musty
France will do National Tournament for choose the players who participate the owc2 after a discussion with many french people, the tournament will be played before the next 2 weeks.
Gomo Psivarh

Megurine Luka wrote:

Yah here it comes.

Good luck to everyone \:D/

I can't wait to see Asian's players list.
Why not see American player list? www
Gomo Psivarh
osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=65535

wooooooow
nVidi4x

Wishy22 wrote:

Argentina

Captain: Wishy22 Confirmed
Player1: Metro Confirmed
Player2: Ever17 Confirmed
Player3: Darksonic Confirmed
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Salvage Confirmed
Back-up Player2: Glazbom Confirmed

Time zone: GMT-3

Team's Pet

FullFr0z

Female Cheerleaders

Mikumiku97, agussdg, KaoruEvans, ReMx, Vandalika.

Male Cheerleaders

Posse, -batt0, demodemo001, Fullback, grisuh, Hazenkain, Hernan, Jougan, lota78, Luffy, Masha-, nhazgul, Pwnt, RockNRolla, Stille, tenchology, theProdigy, Wawix, xsaturosx.

Plus:

1- I still have to talk with pretty much every team member but I'm sure we all are able to play. (Edited already)
2- Even when I haven't talked with anyone but Metro from that roster (edit: look at the ones Confirmed), I'm sure nobody from this team's gonna play if we got to play those qually again like last year. Which besides the fact that they were a disaster and many players couldn't attend, it was all about people who can't even clear insanes wasting our time (no offense). The team's gonna be the one I posted for sure and if there is anyone else from our country willing to make a team, we would gladly play against them to see which team should represent our country.
I'm always asking myself why are u so gay posting on forum? :)

Question: Can we change our members after sign-up period?
Lunah_old

nVidi4x wrote:

Question: Can we change our members after sign-up period?
Sure.
Oh, I read "before", after the sign-up period you'll not be able to change your players.
Auto
It‘s so good:)
Ijah_old
I hope an English team forms D:
Sander-Don
OWC 2 :>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how exciting.
Rey Fullbuster
can you add another staff of 2nd OWC from a BAT/GMT?
Vpalach
So, the rule, where players can't join team unless they have proper country flag, still exists?

nvm, found the answer
ririco
so when this owt will take on~? o3o
Metro

-Sekai- wrote:

so when this owt will take on~? o3o

fartownik wrote:

The Cup will start in the day of 21st November.
l2read.
Topic Starter
fartownik

r3yn41d0 wrote:

can you another staff of 2nd OWC from a BAT/GMT?
Not sure what you're talking about, but I can add that there will be more staff members and at least one of them will be a GMT/BAT member (we already have a few people more to help, but we we will list them all when we complete the gather).

Vpalach wrote:

So, the rule, where players can't join team unless they have proper country flag, is still exist?
It does exist, but can be got around in special cases. An example of JesusYamato playing for France would be good here. Belgium doesn't have any more good and active players apart from him, so he can't form up a team which might be not fair. He also speaks French and is an active member of the community of that country.
Rey Fullbuster

fartownik wrote:

r3yn41d0 wrote:

can you another staff of 2nd OWC from a BAT/GMT?
Not sure what you're talking about, but I can add that there will be more staff members and at least one of them will be a GMT/BAT member (we already have a few people more to help, but we we will list them all when we complete the gather).
sorry forgot writing "add". because im typing so fast lol :)
KRZY

lepidopodus wrote:

You know, previous OWC was ok until the final...
I wouldn't agree, that makes it seem like everything was okay except the final.

Anyways, my best wishes to the Korean squad that may or may not form for this competition. I trust them to make us proud.
Ijah_old
Oh, one question, are there guidelines of what skill level users must be when entering?
Neruell
Did I miss something or what are the "seeds" and "unseeds"? I mean i did read the post but how are they formed? Who will decide which one is which?
nVidi4x
Country name: Chile
Captain: nVidi4x
Player1: Mesita
Player2: Ignacio
Player3: Art-FzTT
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: b1choO
Back-up Player2: b4ss_

Time zone: GMT-3 (might be GMT-4 in summer)
kriers

Neruell wrote:

Did i miss something or what are the "seeds" and "unseeds"? I mean i did read the post but how are they formed? Who will decide which one is which?
I've been wondering about this too. I guess it's more of a matter when all teams have been signed up

nVidi4x wrote:

Country name: Chile
Captain: nVidi4x
Player1: Mesita
Player2: Ignacio
Player3: Art-FzTT


Time zone: GMT-3 (might be GMT-4 in summer)
Strong team x_ x
xsrsbsns

Neruell wrote:

Did i miss something or what are the "seeds" and "unseeds"? I mean i did read the post but how are they formed? Who will decide which one is which?
The countries will be chosen by the tournament staff.
which doesn't sound too legit.
Blacky
If its possible I would like to join the german Team. Switzerland hasn't got enough... good players. And they aren't very activ. So if it's ok, I would like to join the germans :).
Neruell

Blacky wrote:

If its possible I would like to join the german Team. Switzerland hasn't got enough... good players. And they aren't very activ. So if it's ok, I would like to join the germans :).
+

Same question about Austria, last owc they were so few that they formed an other german team, can it be done again? (unless austria doesn't want/have enough ppl for their own team)
creativ_old
Country name: Portugal
Captain: Mikutard
Player1: Makkura
Player2: Maraiga
Player3: Jonnythatjonny

Back-up Player1: Pereira006
Back-up Player2:

Time-Zone: Gmt +0 / Gmt -1
Topic Starter
fartownik

Neruell wrote:

Did I miss something or what are the "seeds" and "unseeds"? I mean i did read the post but how are they formed? Who will decide which one is which?
The tournament staff will decide which of the signed-up teams will be seeded and unseeded. Our judgment will be based on the skill of certain players.

If you think your team is skilled enough it won't matter if it's in the group of seeded or unseeded. I just wanted to avoid the face of best countries in 1st stage, which ruins all the fun.

Our judgment might be a little subjective and not accurate, but what's the accurate way to judge something like skill? We'll do the best we can to judge fair.

Blacky wrote:

If its possible I would like to join the german Team. Switzerland hasn't got enough... good players. And they aren't very activ. So if it's ok, I would like to join the germans :).
Seems like Switzerland really has no active players. If Germany let you to the team, you're allowed to play for them. This is a special case and it's not a permission for everyone joining not their country teams.

Neruell wrote:

Same question about Austria, last owc they were so few that they formed an other german team, can it be done again? (unless austria doesn't want/have enough ppl for their own team)
I believe they have enough of skilled players to form a team by themselves.
Also Germany has plenty of people to play and you don't really need to gather people from other countries. It's of course your call, if Blacky wants to play for you, you can add him.
Neruell

fartownik wrote:

Neruell wrote:

Same question about Austria, last owc they were so few that they formed an other german team, can it be done again? (unless austria doesn't want/have enough ppl for their own team)
I believe they have enough of skilled players to form a team by themselves.
Also Germany has plenty of people to play and you don't really need to gather people from other countries. It's of course your call, if Blacky wants to play for you, you can add him.
No, I mean last year there were 2 german teams, and one of it was half german half austrian because they didn't have enough ppl to form their own team. Yes germany has enough people, it had even too many people who wanted to play and austria didn't have enough for even a full 4 player team that's why they were merged into "german" team. Same question again, if austria doens't get enough people, can german ppl particiapte in it? Or can we form a second german team with them as players?

P.S. This is just a curiosity from my side, so this question is not based on facts, but just in case if this happens again.
Luvdic
Why not just a team composed of minorities? Like Austria + Switerland + Belgium + any other?
Neruell
Well that is kinda actually what I am asking just compared to owc1 it was made with germany + others...
Topic Starter
fartownik

Neruell wrote:

No, I mean last year there were 2 german teams, and one of it was half german half austrian because they didn't have enough ppl to form their own team. Yes germany has enough people, it had even too many people who wanted to play and austria didn't have enough for even a full 4 player team that's why they were merged into "german" team. Same question again, if austria doens't get enough people, can german ppl particiapte in it? Or can we form a second german team with them as players?

P.S. This is just a curiosity from my side, so this question is not based on facts, but just in case if this happens again.
Yes, there will be a possibility like this, but only for 1 player from Germany. The majority must stay on the Austria side.
This is the worst scenario of course.

ErufenRito wrote:

Why not just a team composed of minorities? Like Austria + Switerland + Belgium + any other?
I guess it'd only work for countries with extremely small base of players. I'd prefer to keep the origin of how all of the World Cups work and worked.
XPJ38
Cyclohexane
^Get the fuck out, please.
fabriciorby
Here we go

Country name: Brazil
Captain: fabriciorby
Player1: Blue Dragon
Player2: Caco
Player3: antsu
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Fumi-chan
Back-up Player2: K3nsh1n_H1mur4

GMT -3/ GMT -2

PS: It may suffer some alteration, ok?
Metro

fabriciorby wrote:

Here we go

Country name: Brazil
Captain: fabriciorby
Player1: Blue Dragon
Player2: Caco
Player3: antsu
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Fumi-chan
Back-up Player2: K3nsh1n_H1mur4

GMT -3/ GMT -2

PS: It may suffer some alteration, ok?
Fumi-chan the next Cookiezi.
Lybydose
blah blah seeding whatever blah blah
If it's "no fun" that the best teams have to face each other round one, I'd say it's even less fun for a less skilled team to immediately face the best team and get knocked out of the tournament. It sucks to play in a tournament and never actually get to play anyone around your skill level to make for interesting games.

If the "best teams" eliminating each other really early is such a problem, why not use a different tournament system such as something involving pools, double elimination, or swiss pairings?
YodaSnipe
^ well said, though I've never heard of swiss pairings. (googles it :D)
mancuso_JM_
COME ON!! ARGENTINA and CHILE :D
Metro

Lybydose wrote:

blah blah seeding whatever blah blah
If it's "no fun" that the best teams have to face each other round one, I'd say it's even less fun for a less skilled team to immediately face the best team and get knocked out of the tournament. It sucks to play in a tournament and never actually get to play anyone around your skill level to make for interesting games.

If the "best teams" eliminating each other really early is such a problem, why not use a different tournament system such as something involving pools, double elimination, or swiss pairings?
imo groups of 4 countries. top 2 go to the next stage which is a double elimination bracket. this is almost standard for big tournaments.
Wishy
Plus you get 8 groups so you can "seed" 8 pro teams, each in one group, and then the other 3 teams can actually face each other fairly without having to surrender even before playing.

This would make the OWC a week longer at most but I think it's worth it, so every team can play at least 3 matches.
Lybydose
Swiss pairings are used in M:tG tournaments (actually it's "modified" swiss, but I don't know the difference). Here's how it works:

8 teams = 3 rounds
9 - 16 teams = 4 rounds
17 - 32 teams = 5 rounds
...etc

All teams play every round (unless they want to drop out early).

Round 1 pairs everyone randomly with another team. Teams that win their match get 1 point, losers get 0 points.
Round 2 and on pairs each team with another random team that has the same number of points. Basically after round 1, you'll always be playing a team that's doing just as well (or as bad) as you.

After however many rounds, Top 8 teams play an elimination bracket.

This type of tournament is generally best suited for large tournaments though, since it lets you play out a 1024 player tournament in just 10 rounds, and lets you continue to double player numbers with just one additional round per doubling. This is probably why M:tG tournaments use it (in addition to the fact that it lets everyone play every round). A pool-based system with the "top teams" seeded to be in separate pools would probably be better for something smaller like this.
YodaSnipe
Metro and Wishy22 have very good ideas/points there. Hopefully they don't get ignored, or at least hopefully they have good reasons not to host it this way, and actually tell us what those reasons are :D
Wishy
Actually I have talked a bit with fartowik (a few PMs) and he isn't the kind of guy who's going around ignoring everyone and doing how he pleases, so I'm sure he's gonna read what we posted.
Rey Fullbuster
and 1 more question, will dvorak became the streamer of the 2nd osu! world cup,when the tournament is official ?
Wishy
And yeah I am a pain in the ass. But I seriously suggest you get active somewhat skilled players at the very least to suggest you what maps to pick for the tournament, or at least pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players. Please don't get 5/6 BATs that don't even play this game to choose bad maps like they did last time. Honestly you can be osu!'s staff and a great BAT but if you don't really play the game you have no idea what maps are really fun to play/liked.
lepidopodus

Wishy22 wrote:

you get active somewhat skilled players
Getting some nice professional players to participate can be a nice idea...

Wishy22 wrote:

pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players..
...but well, just asking some players around is somewhat dangerous since the map list can be easly leaked before releasing. So we might be able to set some kind of advisor board before starting this tournament...?
zozozofun
Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Big_ChilD
Player 2: Waiting
Player 3: Waiting

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
maal
Changed Denmark's team, please update. :>
Wishy

lepidopodus wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

you get active somewhat skilled players
Getting some nice professional players to participate can be a nice idea...

Wishy22 wrote:

pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players..
...but well, just asking some players around is somewhat dangerous since the map list can be easly leaked before releasing. So we might be able to set some kind of advisor board before starting this tournament...?
I think there are several good experienced players that are grown-up enough to not go around leaking the map list. If you still think you can't trust some of those you can just give them a... 40 maps list and tell them to give you their opinions, and from that you can somewhat decide on the 15 maps without telling anyone. Though I still think there is plenty of people who can actually be trusted, like if you're 22 years old I want to believe you're not that retarded.

Maybe I have to like... learn to read. But when 2 teams play the maps would be chosen like this I guess, right?

Team A.
Team B.
Team B.
Team A.
Fixed map.
GladiOol

zozozofun wrote:

Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Big_ChilD
Player 2: VulcanicMoonCard
Player 3: Waiting

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
Haha \:D/ eliminated first round.
If not, I will eat my shoes ~~
Topic Starter
fartownik

Lybydose wrote:

Swiss pairings are used in M:tG tournaments (actually it's "modified" swiss, but I don't know the difference). Here's how it works:

8 teams = 3 rounds
9 - 16 teams = 4 rounds
17 - 32 teams = 5 rounds
...etc

All teams play every round (unless they want to drop out early).

Round 1 pairs everyone randomly with another team. Teams that win their match get 1 point, losers get 0 points.
Round 2 and on pairs each team with another random team that has the same number of points. Basically after round 1, you'll always be playing a team that's doing just as well (or as bad) as you.

After however many rounds, Top 8 teams play an elimination bracket.

This type of tournament is generally best suited for large tournaments though, since it lets you play out a 1024 player tournament in just 10 rounds, and lets you continue to double player numbers with just one additional round per doubling. This is probably why M:tG tournaments use it (in addition to the fact that it lets everyone play every round). A pool-based system with the "top teams" seeded to be in separate pools would probably be better for something smaller like this.
A very interesting idea indeed. Never heard of it though, maybe I should have been more discerning about the tournament schemes. I'm still opened for all kinds of suggestions and if I see the proposed system is better than I thought up with, I will think about implementing it. Gonna talk it through with Lunah soon.

r3yn41d0 wrote:

and 1 more question, will dvorak became the streamer of the 2nd osu! world cup,when the tournament is official ?
I have PM'd him already, sadly got no response yet. We're still looking for someone to stream matches of the tournament.

Wishy22 wrote:

And yeah I am a pain in the ass. But I seriously suggest you get active somewhat skilled players at the very least to suggest you what maps to pick for the tournament, or at least pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players. Please don't get 5/6 BATs that don't even play this game to choose bad maps like they did last time. Honestly you can be osu!'s staff and a great BAT but if you don't really play the game you have no idea what maps are really fun to play/liked.
The staff is going to be composed of people with experiences in both mapping and playing. The reason the staff member list isn't posted yet is that we're still looking for certain trusted people to help. A responsible choosing like this takes some time.

Wishy22 wrote:

Actually I have talked a bit with fartowik (a few PMs) and he isn't the kind of guy who's going around ignoring everyone and doing how he pleases, so I'm sure he's gonna read what we posted.
And yeah, I read all of the posts and consider all of your suggestions.

Wishy22 wrote:

Maybe I have to like... learn to read. But when 2 teams play the maps would be chosen like this I guess, right?

Team A.
Team B.
Team B.
Team A.
Fixed map.
This hasn't been included in the rules, but yes, that's how it will look.
Wishy
There are lots of schemes you can apply to tournament. In this case you gonna have just a few teams so the best possible idea is to apply something like what's applied to soccer world cups. 8 groups made out of 4 teams, where only two will pass to the next phase, and by having groups like this of course you take the advantage of putting apart each pro team so not only you avoid getting China Vs. Japan in the first rounds, but get even the average teams to have fun playing against people like them and why not, a chance to get somewhere in the tournament too. :d
YodaSnipe
Plus teams that lose once aren't eliminated from the entire tourney (unless I am mistaken, then derp).

:D
Metro

YodaSnipe wrote:

Plus teams that lose once aren't eliminated from the entire tourney (unless I am mistaken, then derp).

:D
You're not. All teams play at least 3 matches.
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