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Topic Starter
Kurai
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on dimanche 2 janvier 2011 at 21:34:05

Artist: Nightwish
Title: Bare Grace Misery
Tags: lepidopodus ErufenRito
BPM: 151,01
Filesize: 7555kb
Play Time: 03:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,69 stars, 195 notes)
  2. ErufenRito's Normal (3,59 stars, 295 notes)
  3. Hard (4,94 stars, 580 notes)
  4. lepidon! - Taiko Oni (4,83 stars, 922 notes)
Download: Nightwish - Bare Grace Misery
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Made this map for Bchan :3
Ekoro
*.*
carolita_
Bare Grace Misery <3
Bittersweet

KuraiPettan wrote:

10th map for you Bitter-chan <3
AWWWWWWWN *.* *hugs* Thaaaank you, Kurai-kun <3
lepidopodus
Taiko map finished. Oni lvl. 6, I guess.

I adjusted timing slightly cause current timing seems a bit off. If you find appropriate timing, PM me.

and you can change the name of the diff anyway you want.

Download: Nightwish - Bare Grace Misery (KuraiPettan) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni].osu
Dragvon
I'm out of kudos but, i'll give you one as soon as i can 8D
Topic Starter
Kurai

lepidopodus wrote:

Taiko map finished. Oni lvl. 6, I guess. Thanks, that's awesome~

I adjusted timing slightly cause current timing seems a bit off. If you find appropriate timing, PM me. Your timing seems fine to me, I guess I can give you a kudo

and you can change the name of the diff anyway you want.
:)
[eifersucht]
☉◡☉
nightwish fan was here.
Fight69
Mp3 = 320kbit/s

http://puu.sh/h7y

J'ai pas eu de problèmes particulier avec l'offset mais bon, revérifie au cas où, on sait jamais
Je l'ai ré-encodé en 256kbit/s, ca devrait aller a mon avis

[Hard]

01:48:158 (3) - New combo
01:48:356 (1) - Pas new combo
02:00:870 (3) - New combo
02:01:069 (1) - Pas new combo
02:25:203 (1) - Pas new combo
02:25:501 (1) - New combo
02:45:365 (1) - New combo
02:45:961 (1) - Pas new combo

Cool !
~Star !
Luvdic
Posting to tell you that I'm currently doing the normal difficulty. Currently is at 30-40% progress.

Oh and also this:

00:20:620 (4) - Offscreen.
01:17:231 (7) - Offscreen too.

And the mp3 file is 256 kbps, when the max allowed for rank is 192 kbps. Don't do this yet, at least until i have finished my part though :T

EDIT: Okay the normal diffulty is done. Please add the custom hitsound file to the folder too please.

Hope you like my difficulty. *getting nervous for giving out my first guest diff D:*

Download: 20648 Nightwish - Bare Grace Misery.rar
Topic Starter
Kurai
AR+1?
03:18:398 (8) - This note is a bit confusing, I suggest to remove it. I can do it by myself, so if you agree with tell me and I'll remove
Ok It's fine :) I'll upload it.


ErufenRito wrote:

00:20:620 (4) - Offscreen. ok
01:17:231 (7) - Offscreen too. no

And the mp3 file is 256 kbps, when the max allowed for rank is 192 kbps. Don't do this yet, at least until i have finished my part though :T
The mp3 don't need to be re-encoded to be 192kbps because I've submit this map before this rule has been made.
Thanks :3
zozozofun
Normal

00:39:688 - to 00:39:887
01:16:436 (6,7) - Very strange spacing or is it just me?
02:24:767 (1,2,3,4) - For me it doesn't sound like it's going with the beat or do the drums overcloak it?

I suck at modding :l.

~star
Topic Starter
Kurai
I'll wait for ErufenRito if he want to fix something
Luvdic

zozozofun wrote:

Normal

00:39:688 - to 00:39:887 What about them?
01:16:436 (6,7) - Very strange spacing or is it just me? Yeah i thought too, bur surprisingly they are at constant ds
02:24:767 (1,2,3,4) - For me it doesn't sound like it's going with the beat or do the drums overcloak it? Following the same guitar rhymth like 02:18:013 (5,6,1), perhaps is the transition to the drums.

I suck at modding :l.

~star
EDIT: AHHHH NINJAAAAAAAAA
Mok
It's a beautiful map, song too well done KuraiPettan :D Only maybe try to use the same Kiai Times as EufrenRito did :D
Topic Starter
Kurai

Mok wrote:

It's a beautiful map, song too well done KuraiPettan :D Only maybe try to use the same Kiai Times as EufrenRito did :D
Thanks, but no change with the kiai :33
Card N'FoRcE
- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • I'm not really sure about the timing, sometimes it felt late (at about 50-70% of the song)... I can't check atm, but i will if you ask me.
    Is "star2.png" aliased intentionally?
- Easy:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Slidertick rate 2?
    .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:00:954 (2,3) - the spacing is indeed fine, but it feels weird while playing because (3) seems closer.
    01:10:079 (6) - move the endpoint up a bit?
    03:10:850 (6) - ^
- EufenRito's Normal:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Nothing to say
- Hard:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    02:27:151 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - remember that the stack is different while playing here :P
    .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    17 unsnapped notes (run AImod to see)
    01:16:834 (6,7) - quite off-screen
- lepidon! Taiko Oni:
  • .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    This difficulty uses a different BPM.
Topic Starter
Kurai

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

- General: (Considerations and things you need to check/fix for the whole map)
  • I'm not really sure about the timing, sometimes it felt late (at about 50-70% of the song)... I can't check atm, but i will if you ask me. I can SS, but I agree, the timing is a weird sometime, I can't fix it by myself so if can, why not :D
    Is "star2.png" aliased intentionally? I've not uderstand xD
- Easy:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Slidertick rate 2? ok
    .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    00:00:954 (2,3) - the spacing is indeed fine, but it feels weird while playing because (3) seems closer. Hum... I don't know how I can fix it :/
    01:10:079 (6) - move the endpoint up a bit? ok
    03:10:850 (6) - ^ ok
- EufenRito's Normal:
  • .Opinions: (Just some thoughts, I'd personally like if you follow them)
    Nothing to say
- Hard:
  • .Suggestions: (Fixing this should make gameplay/aesthetics a bit better)
    02:27:151 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - remember that the stack is different while playing here :P Moved 1 grid right :P
    .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    17 unsnapped notes (run AImod to see) lol
    01:16:834 (6,7) - quite off-screen ok
- lepidon! Taiko Oni:
  • .Errors/Mistakes: (Bad gameplay issues or badly applied changes)
    This difficulty uses a different BPM. Fix'd
Thanks ~
rust45
[Easy]
Max Combo is higher than Normal's, which is kinda weird when that happens IMO and it bugs me. So I suggest doing something to change the max combos. Either lowering the tick rate of this map, or heightening it in normal.

[Normal]
00:52:800 (1,1) - This seems off to me. The first spinner just seems to be an odd place for a spinner, and then given the length of it, I was expecting to click more circles, not spin more of them. At the very least, I think you should lose the second spinner and map there, but I would prefer it if you lost both of the spinners.
02:34:306 (1) - This one is in the same situation as the first spinner mentioned above. I don't think it would be to hard to think of some new patterns for two for phrases.
02:56:951 (1) - Basically the same as above.
Yeah, I like most of the mapping, but I really don't like the use of spinners, other than that though, it's great. And don't forget that long spinners can tire out some people.

[Taiko]
If anyone tries to tell you that 3 different slider velocities is unrankable, tell them that they are wrong for taiko.

[Hard]
All good.

Great maps, shooting a star for sure.
Topic Starter
Kurai

rust45 wrote:

[Easy]
Max Combo is higher than Normal's, which is kinda weird when that happens IMO and it bugs me. So I suggest doing something to change the max combos. Either lowering the tick rate of this map, or heightening it in normal. Fix'd

[Normal]
Not mine ~

[Taiko]
If anyone tries to tell you that 3 different slider velocities is unrankable, tell them that they are wrong for taiko. Yep :)

[Hard]
All good. :33

Great maps, shooting a star for sure. Thanks for star and mod ~
C:
lepidopodus
So there was some timing change, fixed some.

Download: Nightwish - Bare Grace Misery (KuraiPettan) [lepidon! - Taiko Oni].osu
Luvdic
I had the mod fixes ready by yesterday, but since i was so sleepy, and couldnt think well, i had to wait until today to be sure that i didn't do anything stupid xD

Also, modifications were made under rust45's mod.

Download: Nightwish - Bare Grace Misery (KuraiPettan) [ErufenRito's Normal].osu
Topic Starter
Kurai
Uploaded ~
NoHitter
General
The kiai on ErufenRito's Normal fits the song. Why don't you place it on Easy and Hard?
Maybe get rid of the breaks on Easy?

Easy
00:21:216 (3) - I wouldn't suggest a stack like this on Easy. They're harder to read especially since the distance on the timeline is 2/1.
00:35:518 (4) - I honestly was expecting this at 00:35:121 instead.
01:12:465 (2) - Spacing
03:13:240 (2) - ^

Timing
Hmm. I'm not that sure, but I think the BPM is flat 151. Could you get someone else to check the timing?

That's really all.
Shiro
Timing help.

offset 159
BPM 151.04

amazing song btw
Luvdic
If you want my opinion. The timing that i have got is:

bpm: 151.02
offset: 155

That small change in the decimals of the bpm matters a lot. :T

And yes, i do like to make people's life a misery :(
(jk >_>)
Gonzvlo
General
  1. Maybe add 1 more combo colour?
  2. You need to add and approach circle, even if it's the default one.
Easy
  1. 01:53:374 (4) - New Combo
  2. 02:02:510 (7) - Finish :D
  3. 02:49:385 (1) - Remove New Combo and:
  4. 02:50:577 (2) - New Combo starts here.
  5. 03:06:467 (1) - Add Finish (Use Soft hitsounds for this Finish, It sounds good)
Normal
  1. 00:23:596 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  2. 00:24:192 (3) - Start New Combo here.
  3. 00:26:575 (5) - Place a Finish at the end.
  4. 01:42:847 (X) - I was expecting a circle here.
  5. 02:18:003 (5,6,1) - Color stacking D: ?!
  6. 02:24:359 (7,8,1,2) - ;___;
  7. 02:39:057 - Place a Break here like Easy.
  8. 03:00:508 (X) - Random Empty Place :(
  9. 03:17:192 (6) - New Combo.
Hard
  1. 01:42:251 (3,1) - Unstack these :(
  2. 01:54:963 (3,1) - ^
  3. 03:31:295 - You should end the diff here, like the other 2 diffs.
Good Job, Star.
Luvdic

Gonzvlo wrote:

Normal
  1. 00:23:596 (1) - Remove New Combo.
  2. 00:24:192 (3) - Start New Combo here.
    Okay
  3. 00:26:575 (5) - Place a Finish at the end. It already has it :l
  4. 01:42:847 (X) - I was expecting a circle here. No :(
  5. 02:18:003 (5,6,1) - Color stacking D: ?!
  6. 02:24:359 (7,8,1,2) - ;___; :(
  7. 02:39:057 - Place a Break here like Easy. A break is stupíd :T
  8. 03:00:508 (X) - Random Empty Place :( AHHHH leave me alone D:
  9. 03:17:192 (6) - New Combo. Okay
And this song is not emo >=o

Download: Nightwish - Bare Grace Misery (KuraiPettan) [ErufenRito's Normal].osu
Topic Starter
Kurai

Gonzvlo wrote:

General
  1. Maybe add 1 more combo colour? mmh
  2. You need to add and approach circle, even if it's the default one. ok
Easy
  1. 01:53:374 (4) - New Combo ok
  2. 02:02:510 (7) - Finish :D ok :D
  3. 02:49:385 (1) - Remove New Combo and: ok
  4. 02:50:577 (2) - New Combo starts here. ok
  5. 03:06:467 (1) - Add Finish (Use Soft hitsounds for this Finish, It sounds good) ok
Hard
  1. 01:42:251 (3,1) - Unstack these :( no D:
  2. 01:54:963 (3,1) - ^ ^
  3. 03:31:295 - You should end the diff here, like the other 2 diffs. I'll keep it in mind if someone else ask me to do that
Good Job, Star.
Thanks

ErufenRito wrote:

If you want my opinion. The timing that i have got is:

bpm: 151.02
offset: 155

That small change in the decimals of the bpm matters a lot. :T

And yes, i do like to make people's life a misery :(
(jk >_>)
grjqskh, I think Odaril's timing sounds better but to be sure, I'll ask someone who's good at timing to check it D:
Samah
Weird BPM is weird... o_O

Easy:
Fine.

ErufenRito's Normal:
Fine.

Hard:
02:08:887 (5) - 1 grid up and right.
02:14:251 (4,5,6,7) - (Suggestion) Switch positions of 5 and 6 so that the player has to click left/right/left/right.
02:16:436 (3) - 1 grid left.
02:27:163 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1) - Move this stack 1 grid left.
02:46:829 (5) - 1 grid right.

Can't do taiko sorry.

Starred.
nOtashy
Star~ : D
ignorethis
Timing is weird... might be 151.00 with multiple offsets, not sure.

Sliders shapes in hard are ... well, overused. Don't wanna see such sliders anymore. :o
Doomsday
Hmm. This timing is an odd case. It likes to go off at times, yet it still snaps to 151.01 afterwards, so technically it can be mapped with 151.01 straight through, but those bits would play pretty badly. (151.02 sounds a bit fast, while 151.01 sounds just right).

I've got some new timing, with the bits that go off perfectly timed (once I figured it out, timing them was easy peasy :D). copy them into the [TimingPoints] section of the .osu for every diff, overwriting the old timing. (Be careful of the green lines though. You might have to remake them since it'll probably overwrite them :().

163,397.324680484736,4,2,0,0,1,0
954,-100,4,1,1,72,0,0
24002,394.736842105263,4,1,1,72,1,0
27181,397.324680484736,4,1,1,72,1,0
27420,-100,4,2,0,72,0,0
51543,-100,4,1,1,72,0,0
87574,393.44262295082,4,1,1,72,1,0
90752,397.324680484736,4,1,1,72,1,0
97019,-100,4,1,1,69,0,0
106646,392.156862745098,4,1,1,69,1,0
109810,-100,4,1,1,69,0,1
109824,397.324680484736,4,1,1,69,1,1
122523,-100,4,1,1,69,0,0
135236,-100,4,1,1,69,0,1
144788,387.096774193548,4,1,1,69,1,1
147950,-100,4,1,1,69,0,0
147967,396.039603960396,4,1,1,69,1,0
159737,-100,4,1,1,0,0,0
160681,397.324680484736,4,1,1,0,1,0
160895,-100,4,2,0,72,0,0
182931,394.736842105263,4,2,0,72,1,0
186109,397.324680484736,4,2,0,72,1,0
186420,-100,4,1,1,72,0,0
208359,392.156862745098,4,1,1,72,1,0
214527,-100,4,2,1,0,0,0
lepidopodus
Topic Starter
Kurai
Yeah, All fixed, Thanks Doomsday :333
Luvdic
Mogsy
Sorry if this seems really nazi, hah.
Points in this colour = pure suggestions, just something that you might want to try.

Easy:
  1. The chorus feels flat due to a lack of hitsounds in the early parts of it. Perhaps you should add some.
  2. 00:14:268 (2) - Add a New Combo mark. This is a new phrase with no relation to the previous beat.
  3. 00:21:221 (1) - ^
  4. 00:31:154 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
  5. 00:33:935 (3) - Add a New Combo mark.
  6. 01:19:627 (4) - ^
  7. 01:25:190 (3) - ^
  8. 01:58:962 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
  9. 01:59:359 (2) - New Combo mark.
  10. 02:22:404 (2) - Add a Clap.
ErufenRito's Normal:
  1. 00:22:413 (2) - Remove the Finish from that last point.
  2. 00:37:511 (1,2,3) - It feels awkward to come back in on this; right in the middle of a phrase, and a passage that isn't even accented, at that.
  3. 00:40:292 (4) - Put a New Combo mark on this.
  4. 00:46:053 (6) - Put a Clap on this.
  5. 01:01:350 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
  6. 01:02:145 (3) - Add a New Combo mark.
  7. 01:25:190 (1) - Replace that Finish with a Clap. In the sense of the map you've laid out, that Finish sounds out of place.
  8. 01:52:207 (4), 01:55:386 (5), 01:58:565 (4), 02:00:949 (3), 02:01:743 (5) - Add Whistles to the slider track. I personally think they sound pretty nifty here and add to this, but you be the judge of that.
  9. [color=#808FF]02:38:858 (5) - Add a Finish, I feel like it makes that pause much more accented.[/color]
  10. [color=#808FF]02:51:806 (1,2,3) - Maybe some Claps here would make this sound less boring.[/color]
Hard:
  1. 02:13:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This still sounds untimed, but I still got all 300s on it sightread. Dunno if this is too big of an issue, but still, one to possibly look into.
Fix and I'll bubble, nice work, guys.
Luvdic

Mogsworth wrote:

ErufenRito's Normal:
[*]00:22:413 (2) - Remove the Finish from that last point. No idea why i added it
[*]00:37:511 (1,2,3) - It feels awkward to come back in on this; right in the middle of a phrase, and a passage that isn't even accented, at that. I guess its kind of because i like to map in this way... Although if you do really prefer to have them deleted, i guess i could do that too

[*]00:40:292 (4) - Put a New Combo mark on this.
[*]00:46:053 (6) - Put a Clap on this.
[*]01:01:350 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
[*]01:02:145 (3) - Add a New Combo mark.
[*]01:25:190 (1) - Replace that Finish with a Clap. In the sense of the map you've laid out, that Finish sounds out of place.
All modified

[*]01:52:207 (4), 01:55:386 (5), 01:58:565 (4), 02:00:949 (3), 02:01:743 (5) - Add Whistles to the slider track. I personally think they sound pretty nifty here and add to this, but you be the judge of that.
[*][color=#808FF]02:38:858 (5) - Add a Finish, I feel like it makes that pause much more accented.[/color]
All modifed too

[*][color=#808FF]02:51:806 (1,2,3) - Maybe some Claps here would make this sound less boring.[/color]
I dont believe that having claps in this little part sounds good.
Topic Starter
Kurai

Mogsworth wrote:

Sorry if this seems really nazi, hah.
Points in this colour = pure suggestions, just something that you might want to try.

Easy:
  1. The chorus feels flat due to a lack of hitsounds in the early parts of it. Perhaps you should add some.
  2. 00:14:268 (2) - Add a New Combo mark. This is a new phrase with no relation to the previous beat.
  3. 00:21:221 (1) - ^
  4. 00:31:154 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
  5. 00:33:935 (3) - Add a New Combo mark.
  6. 01:19:627 (4) - ^
  7. 01:25:190 (3) - ^
  8. 01:58:962 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
  9. 01:59:359 (2) - New Combo mark.
  10. 02:22:404 (2) - Add a Clap.
All done

Hard:
  1. 02:13:862 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This still sounds untimed, but I still got all 300s on it sightread. Dunno if this is too big of an issue, but still, one to possibly look into. I think it's fine :/
Fix and I'll bubble, nice work, guys.
Thanks.
Erufen didn't send me his update, but I've did it by myself with his post
Thanks ><
Mogsy
Looks like this deserves a bubble. Unique song choice for osu! and a pretty nice map to go along with it.
Luvdic
LOL? I DIDNT?
Im so fail, sorry :T
Larto
Easy:
02:39:056 - Can you remove that break? It's so silly and short and all it does is look ugly. Remove it or not, a rank will follow.

^_^^- ^- ^- ^-^-^- -_-^fnjshrranked
Bittersweet
Graaaaaatz *3*
Aleksi_Vihainen
Taiko oni sux.
Animefan
whoever made the normal mode should check the timings cause they're very off several places
Luvdic

Animefan wrote:

whoever made the normal mode should check the timings cause they're very off several places
:(

I just checked it, and the timing from this diff and the other diff's are exactly the same. Anyways, at this point, it is very unlikely that an unrank will happen to fix the issue.
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