This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Samstag, 15. Juni 2013 at 21:12:43

Artist: Sum 41
Title: In Too Deep
Tags: Mitiai -Shieky- ShadowLord Shadow Lego Rock Band All Killer No Filler
BPM: 116,1
Filesize: 4522kb
Play Time: 03:24
Difficulties Available:

1. Too Collab! (4,95 stars, 539 notes)
2. Too Deep! (4,55 stars, 424 notes)
3. Too Shadow! (4,08 stars, 344 notes)
4. Too ShallowLord! (2,77 stars, 227 notes)
5. Too Shieky! (4,8 stars, 535 notes)

Download: Sum 41 - In Too Deep
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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4th Map
Redownload if you have before 27th December. Renamed Too Shiek! to Too Shieky! also new background.
Special Thanks to Shadow for remapping Easy for me. Using my Easy as a base.

Cause I'm in too deep and I'm trying to keep
Up above in my head instead of going under
Instead of going under!

I like puns. :3
Collab by Mitiai and me.
Too Shieky! (Insane) by -Shieky-.
Too ShallowLord (Normal) and Too Shadow! (Hard) by Shadow.

aweeesssssoooooommmeeeeeee


I like it, but i don't have kd

jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Modding!!! :
Genre: Punk rock !

What's up? <:

[General]
Nothing to poke at.

[Too Shallow!]
Just a few suggestions. Nothing too big.

00:29:681 (8,9,10,11) - From a beginner's point of view, this overlap might throw some people off. Try and experiment with different placements of the four notes. If nothing goes too well, just keep as is.
00:49:577 (1) - After this spinner, try and cut the kiai off.
02:30:869 (5,1,2) - I don't think is an illegal move, but it's frowned upon by some modders. Try and find another way to adjust this to where the slider isn't blocking (1) and (2).

[Too Deep!]
Again, suggestions. Except on the kiai bit on 01:51:851.

00:35:107 (6) - Bring this slider down a bit. Part of it slightly touches the HP bar.
01:51:851 (1) - The streams from this point... is a bit too awkward. A friend of mine and I took a look at the streams... :

15:45 <Shiirn> : they're awkwardly spaced, don't have a good shape, are badly hitsounded, have combos that are too
15:45 <Shiirn> : long, are at a bpm where it's too fast for singlefinger but too slow for double and therefore is awkward and does
15:45 <Shiirn> : not belong on a hard
15:45 <Shiirn> : better off with sliders
15:45 <Shiirn> : that do NOT START ON BLUE TICKS

02:35:004 (6) - Try and make this slider a bit less lop-sided.
02:41:205 (1) - Have this slider end on the white tick at 02:44:564.

[Too Shiek!]

00:50:869 (1) - End kiai after this spinner.
01:36:347 (1,2,3) - Straighted out this formation about into a line, so it won't look crooked.
01:40:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - This bit right here looks like a clustered mess. Try and fix it up a bit.
01:51:851 (1) - From this point of the guitar solo is a cluttered mess. Again, checked this out with a friend:

16:53 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders that don't overlap eachother?
16:54 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders with 2 repeats each
16:54 <Shiirn> : without the slowdown
16:55 <Shiirn> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/149182 sommat like that
16:56 <Shiirn> : .-.
16:57 <Shiirn> : also
16:57 <Shiirn> : 01:55:469 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this
16:57 <Shiirn> : .-.

02:24:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - This pattern looks clustered. Fix up a bit?

Will get back to checking the Too Collab! difficulty soon. Good luck on the map.

Agnes wrote:

What's up? <: / Hey

[General]
Nothing to poke at.

[Too Shallow!]
Just a few suggestions. Nothing too big.

00:29:681 (8,9,10,11) - From a beginner's point of view, this overlap might throw some people off. Try and experiment with different placements of the four notes. If nothing goes too well, just keep as is. / Found a way.
00:49:577 (1) - After this spinner, try and cut the kiai off. / Done.
02:30:869 (5,1,2) - I don't think is an illegal move, but it's frowned upon by some modders. Try and find another way to adjust this to where the slider isn't blocking (1) and (2). / Fixed. lol illegal move xD

[Too Deep!]
Again, suggestions. Except on the kiai bit on 01:51:851.

00:35:107 (6) - Bring this slider down a bit. Part of it slightly touches the HP bar. / Done.
01:51:851 (1) - The streams from this point... is a bit too awkward. A friend of mine and I took a look at the streams... :/ He's kinda cruel. :< But yeah changed.

15:45 <Shiirn> : they're awkwardly spaced, don't have a good shape, are badly hitsounded, have combos that are too
15:45 <Shiirn> : long, are at a bpm where it's too fast for singlefinger but too slow for double and therefore is awkward and does
15:45 <Shiirn> : not belong on a hard
15:45 <Shiirn> : better off with sliders
15:45 <Shiirn> : that do NOT START ON BLUE TICKS

02:35:004 (6) - Try and make this slider a bit less lop-sided. / I didn't really understood what to do but i think i got it.
02:41:205 (1) - Have this slider end on the white tick at 02:44:564. / Thats a Spinner. lol

[Too Shiek!]

Since this wasn't made by me I tell him to fix it, because that way he can change it the way he want to.

00:50:869 (1) - End kiai after this spinner.
01:36:347 (1,2,3) - Straighted out this formation about into a line, so it won't look crooked.
01:40:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - This bit right here looks like a clustered mess. Try and fix it up a bit.
01:51:851 (1) - From this point of the guitar solo is a cluttered mess. Again, checked this out with a friend:

16:53 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders that don't overlap eachother?
16:54 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders with 2 repeats each
16:54 <Shiirn> : without the slowdown
16:55 <Shiirn> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/149182 sommat like that
16:56 <Shiirn> : .-.
16:57 <Shiirn> : also
16:57 <Shiirn> : 01:55:469 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this
16:57 <Shiirn> : .-.

02:24:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - This pattern looks clustered. Fix up a bit?

Will get back to checking the Too Collab! difficulty soon. Good luck on the map. / Hope you check it really soon.

Thanks for your Mod.
Have a Kudosu.

Here you go :]

http://puu.sh/6Wis

ShadowLord wrote:

Here you go :]

http://puu.sh/6Wis

Thanks

I was asking for a Mod, now I get a Guest Diff. LoL

Mik-ey wrote:

ShadowLord wrote:

Here you go :]

http://puu.sh/6Wis

Thanks

I was asking for a Mod, now I get a Guest Diff. LoL

Will mod it this weekend

INSTEAD OF GOING UNDER

The source is definitely not Lego Rock Band. It was simply on that game.

OzzyOzrock wrote:

INSTEAD OF GOING UNDER

The source is definitely not Lego Rock Band. It was simply on that game.

Yeah maybe you're right but I got it from there

The game is only used as a source when it's an original song from the makers of that game :V

hi-;D from mod req
all of suggestion
[general]
fine

[Too ShallowLord!]
02:10:714 (5) - new combo

[ShadowDeep]
00:06:425 (5) - new combo
00:08:492 (10) - new combo
00:09:009 (1) - remove new combo
01:22:911 (5) - new combo
01:24:461 (1) - add clap to begin slider
01:26:270 (3) - add clap
03:02:135 (3) - new combo
03:12:471 (9) - new combo

[Too Deep!]
00:29:681 (7) - new combo
00:32:781 (6) - new combo?
00:36:657 (8) - new combo
00:49:319 (1) - add a finish
01:00:947 (2) - spacing
01:24:461 (5) - new combo?
01:38:156 (6) - 1grid down
02:23:893 (3) - new combo?

[Too Shiek!]
sorry, I don't understand 1/6beatsnap modding

I love sum41;D fight!

SakiK wrote:

hi-;D from mod req
all of suggestion
[general]
fine

[Too ShallowLord!]
02:10:714 (5) - new combo

[ShadowDeep]
00:06:425 (5) - new combo
00:08:492 (10) - new combo
00:09:009 (1) - remove new combo
01:22:911 (5) - new combo
01:24:461 (1) - add clap to begin slider
01:26:270 (3) - add clap
03:02:135 (3) - new combo
03:12:471 (9) - new combo

[Too Deep!]
00:29:681 (7) - new combo
00:32:781 (6) - new combo? /nah.
00:36:657 (8) - new combo
00:49:319 (1) - add a finish
01:00:947 (2) - spacing /I see nothing wrong there. =P
01:24:461 (5) - new combo? /No.
01:38:156 (6) - 1grid down
02:23:893 (3) - new combo? /I leave it like that.

[Too Shiek!]
sorry, I don't understand 1/6beatsnap modding /Wait what!? O___o

I love sum41;D fight!

Why is nobody modding [Too Collab!] ? T___T

Thanks for your mod.
Have a Kudosu (or 2).

hihi~!

For [too collab!]
the only thing i got is:
[01:24:461] (6,7,8,9) the space is a bit larger than other streaming parts..personnally.
nice hit sound ~!

For [too shiek!]
to me,there are some weird jumps like :
[01:06:545] (1)
01:40:999 (1)
02:28:285 (1,2,3) -
Also,
02:48:613 u could add some notes there.

For [too deep!]
02:24:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the sliders i think is a bit liner.

For [shadow deep]
i think its good~!
but the hit sound is not that good as other diffs.

For [ too shallowLord!]
GOOD~!

Another problem is that there are a lot of long spinners,so personally i think u need to make it shorter.

All the mods are only suggestions, im a new mapper and modder.
BTW, i like sum41, cauz they ROCK~!

-Baby Strawberry- wrote:

hihi~!

For [too collab!]
the only thing i got is:
[01:24:461] (6,7,8,9) the space is a bit larger than other streaming parts..personnally. /thought so. >_>
nice hit sound ~!

For [too shiek!] /Yeah, Shiek style. Nobody likes it actually. =P
to me,there are some weird jumps like :
[01:06:545] (1)
01:40:999 (1)
02:28:285 (1,2,3) -
Also,
02:48:613 u could add some notes there.

For [too deep!]
02:24:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the sliders i think is a bit liner. /Don't really get it, I leave it like that for now.

For [shadow deep]
i think its good~!
but the hit sound is not that good as other diffs.

For [ too shallowLord!]
GOOD~!

Another problem is that there are a lot of long spinners,so personally i think u need to make it shorter. /Play Sky Ferreira - One.

All the mods are only suggestions, im a new mapper and modder.
BTW, i like sum41, cauz they ROCK~!

Yeah! Sum 41 FTW! ^^

Thanks for your Mod.
Have a Kudosu!

taken request from #modreqs

Too ShallowLord

00:04:875 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Whistles sounds better in this full part :3

Too Deep
00:15:727 (2,3) - Remove them
00:16:244 (4) - NC here
00:58:104 (6) - ^
01:01:980 (6) - ^
01:03:531 (1) - Remove there
01:04:306 (4) - Add NC
01:06:115 (8) - ^
01:06:890 (1) - Remove
01:08:440 (5) - Add
01:14:900 (7) - ^
02:20:792 (7) - ^
02:26:735 (4) - ^
02:28:802 (8) - ^
02:35:004 (6) - ^
03:18:673 (6) - ^
03:22:807 (4) - ^
03:24:875 (9) - NC since it's offbeat

The Diff looks fine .. just try to make some sliders more beautiful :3

To Shiek !
Overall
Hitsounds are Bad.
00:35:365 (5) - New Combo
00:40:533 (7,1,2,3,4) - hard to read .. may change it ?
00:48:027 (6,7,8,9) - that looks ugly .. anyway new combo on (9)
00:50:094 (1) - Remove nc here
01:01:980 (8) - NC
01:03:014 (1) - Remove
01:04:306 (4) - NC
01:28:595 (1,1) - Remove .. why need that Combo spam ..
01:34:539 (7) - NC
01:36:864 (2) - NC here since it's anti jump
02:13:040 (9) - NC
02:14:073 (1) - Remove
02:24:022 (1) - ^
02:25:185 (7) - Add
02:25:701 (1) - Remove
02:30:869 (6) - Add

Sorry for that New Combo spams :p

Btw .. i dunno why but i can't open Collab in Editor

ShadowSoul wrote:

taken request from #modreqs

Too ShallowLord
00:04:875 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Whistles sounds better in this full part :3 /Don't think so

Too Deep
00:15:727 (2,3) - Remove them /Nah
00:16:244 (4) - NC here /^
00:58:104 (6) - ^
01:01:980 (6) - ^
01:03:531 (1) - Remove there
01:04:306 (4) - Add NC
01:06:115 (8) - ^
01:06:890 (1) - Remove
01:08:440 (5) - Add
01:14:900 (7) - ^
02:20:792 (7) - ^
02:26:735 (4) - ^
02:28:802 (8) - ^
02:35:004 (6) - ^
03:18:673 (6) - ^
03:22:807 (4) - ^
03:24:875 (9) - NC since it's offbeat /You're sure about that?

The Diff looks fine .. just try to make some sliders more beautiful :3

Too Shiek ! /Waiting for Shiek <_<
Overall
Hitsounds are Bad.
00:35:365 (5) - New Combo
00:40:533 (7,1,2,3,4) - hard to read .. may change it ?
00:48:027 (6,7,8,9) - that looks ugly .. anyway new combo on (9)
00:50:094 (1) - Remove nc here
01:01:980 (8) - NC
01:03:014 (1) - Remove
01:04:306 (4) - NC
01:28:595 (1,1) - Remove .. why need that Combo spam ..
01:34:539 (7) - NC
01:36:864 (2) - NC here since it's anti jump
02:13:040 (9) - NC
02:14:073 (1) - Remove
02:24:022 (1) - ^
02:25:185 (7) - Add
02:25:701 (1) - Remove
02:30:869 (6) - Add

Sorry for that New Combo spams :p

Btw .. i dunno why but i can't open Collab in Editor /WTF!?!

Thanks for your Mod.
Have a Kudosu!

[Collab]
(MiTiai)
The spacing is incredibly small compare to the Slider Velocity. Plays weird IMO
00:36:657 (1,2) - Two circles, then a slider would have fitted better IMO
00:39:241 (3) - Start the slider here (yes, move #4 to this timing), and then end it at the red tick. If you have done it this way, add a note on the big white tick
00:59:138 (4,5,6) - these aren't equally spaced
(MiK-ey)
03:24:358 (8) - Add finish

[Sheik]
00:44:022 (2) - Remove the clap
00:46:864 (2) - ^
00:46:993 (3) - Remove the clap the at end
01:16:580 (11) - Stack this completely
01:18:906 (6) - Remove the clap
01:38:285 (6) - ^
01:53:402 (7) - Slider should start here
02:53:608 (11) - New combo

[Too Deep!]
01:00:172 (1) - Increase the spacing a bit. It's a lot easier to follow that way.
01:16:192 (4,5) - Ugly

Harder difficulties are lacking of creativity in general. Show your creativity a bit more :<

bmin11 wrote:

[Collab]
(MiTiai) /Not sure I should fix it because he wasn't online for a long time.
The spacing is incredibly small compare to the Slider Velocity. Plays weird IMO
00:36:657 (1,2) - Two circles, then a slider would have fitted better IMO
00:39:241 (3) - Start the slider here (yes, move #4 to this timing), and then end it at the red tick. If you have done it this way, add a note on the big white tick
00:59:138 (4,5,6) - these aren't equally spaced
(MiK-ey)
03:24:358 (8) - Add finish

[Sheik] /Will be fixed soon!
00:44:022 (2) - Remove the clap
00:46:864 (2) - ^
00:46:993 (3) - Remove the clap the at end
01:16:580 (11) - Stack this completely
01:18:906 (6) - Remove the clap
01:38:285 (6) - ^
01:53:402 (7) - Slider should start here
02:53:608 (11) - New combo

[Too Deep!]
01:00:172 (1) - Increase the spacing a bit. It's a lot easier to follow that way.
01:16:192 (4,5) - Ugly /I wanted to change that but always forgot lol.

Harder difficulties are lacking of creativity in general. Show your creativity a bit more :<
I wish I could be more creativ :<

Thanks for your Mod.
Have a Kudosu!

bmin11, thx for mod~

o/
General
Don't switch to x2.0 sv during final kiai, stick to x1.5 please.
Spacing for streams in all difficulties could be reduced.
Stick to one distance spacing for all triplets.
Stack Leniency really should be higher..

Too ShallowLord!
00:43:376 (6) - Fix this blanket.
01:00:172 ~ 01:16:709 - This finish spam is not necessary at all.
01:29:112 - Note?
02:23:634 (1) - End this spinner on the previous white tick. (If I were a beginner, I'd go crazy on the spin and miss the next note for sure)
02:53:350 (1) - End spinner on previous white tick, follows the drum beat.

ShadowDeep
AR 7 is abit too high imo.
Everything else seems fine~

Too Deep!
Does it have to be circle size 5?
00:49:577 (1) - I feel this spinner fits better if you start it on the next red tick.
01:27:820 (6) - NC?
01:34:539 (6) - ^
02:12:006 (7) - ^
02:14:590 (1,2,3,4) - This finish spam doesn't fit

Too Shiek!
All the streams could use smaller spacing.
00:26:063 (5) - Maybe http://puu.sh/gUQb (This looks really messy)
00:28:906 (6) - NC?
00:32:265 (5) - Please end this on the white tick.
00:40:533 (7,1,2,3,4) - If you're going to do this, lessen the spacing a little.
00:51:386 (7) - May I suggest a pattern like this, with the spinner moved as so. http://puu.sh/gUSm NC at the 7 if you plan to use this.
01:07:407 - Note?
02:51:541 (6) - NC?
02:55:546 (4) - This note slightly below the other 4.
03:01:102 (4) - NC
03:02:135 (7) - NC
03:15:572 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This spacing is huge.

Too Collab!
01:16:709 (1) - Remove finish.
01:20:585 (5) - NC
01:48:750 (2) - Needs a bigger spacing from the slider.
01:49:784 (7) - ^ + NC
01:50:818 (1) - ^
02:29:448 (3) - A little to the right would make it better.
03:02:135 ~ 03:16:606 - Jump placements seem extremely random, could use a little work..

As stated before, creativity is really lacking in the harder diffs.
Hope this helped. ^^

Mythol wrote:

o/
General
Don't switch to x2.0 sv during final kiai, stick to x1.5 please. /But it fits better :C
Spacing for streams in all difficulties could be reduced.
Stick to one distance spacing for all triplets.
Stack Leniency really should be higher..

Too ShallowLord!
00:43:376 (6) - Fix this blanket. /What?
01:00:172 ~ 01:16:709 - This finish spam is not necessary at all.
01:29:112 - Note?
02:23:634 (1) - End this spinner on the previous white tick. (If I were a beginner, I'd go crazy on the spin and miss the next note for sure)
02:53:350 (1) - End spinner on previous white tick, follows the drum beat.

ShadowDeep
AR 7 is abit too high imo. /Changed to 6
Everything else seems fine~

Too Deep!
Does it have to be circle size 5? /Normal size what's wrong with it?
00:49:577 (1) - I feel this spinner fits better if you start it on the next red tick.
01:27:820 (6) - NC?
01:34:539 (6) - ^
02:12:006 (7) - ^
02:14:590 (1,2,3,4) - This finish spam doesn't fit

Too Shiek! /Didn't fix everything yet because somethings shiek should fix it.
All the streams could use smaller spacing.
00:26:063 (5) - Maybe http://puu.sh/gUQb (This looks really messy)
00:28:906 (6) - NC?
00:32:265 (5) - Please end this on the white tick.
00:40:533 (7,1,2,3,4) - If you're going to do this, lessen the spacing a little.
00:51:386 (7) - May I suggest a pattern like this, with the spinner moved as so. http://puu.sh/gUSm NC at the 7 if you plan to use this.
01:07:407 - Note?
02:51:541 (6) - NC?
02:55:546 (4) - This note slightly below the other 4.
03:01:102 (4) - NC
03:02:135 (7) - NC
03:15:572 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This spacing is huge.

Too Collab!
01:16:709 (1) - Remove finish.
01:20:585 (5) - NC
01:48:750 (2) - Needs a bigger spacing from the slider.
01:49:784 (7) - ^ + NC
01:50:818 (1) - ^
02:29:448 (3) - A little to the right would make it better.
03:02:135 ~ 03:16:606 - Jump placements seem extremely random, could use a little work.. /Replaced some notes.

As stated before, creativity is really lacking in the harder diffs. /I'm the most uncreative person in ther world \:D/
Hope this helped. ^^

Thanks for your Mod.
Have a kudosu!

The Collab!
01:50:301 (5) 1grid→
01:51:593 (7) 1grid↑
02:39:138 (1,3) remove clap?
Too Shiek!
00:18:828 (8) NewCombo
00:14:435 (5,6,7) 1grid←
Too Deep!
02:07:355 (7) NewCombo?
02:18:983 (4) ^?
ShadowDeep
00:33:298 (6) slider end isn't white line
00:35:107 (3) ^
Too ShallowLord!
01:39:190 (5) NewCombo

Good map!

gekkiii wrote:

The Collab!
01:50:301 (5) 1grid→
01:51:593 (7) 1grid↑
02:39:138 (1,3) remove clap?
Too Shiek!
00:18:828 (8) NewCombo
00:14:435 (5,6,7) 1grid←
Too Deep!
02:07:355 (7) NewCombo?
02:18:983 (4) ^?
ShadowDeep
00:33:298 (6) slider end isn't white line
00:35:107 (3) ^
Too ShallowLord!
01:39:190 (5) NewCombo

Good map!

Wasn't all that helpfull but thanks anyway.

Thanks for your Mod.
Have a kudosu!

From 【All requests posted here will be modded】 queue

[General]

1. Try to add some information in creator words of your difficulty names:
   
   Too ShallowLord! - Normal
   ShadowDeep - Hard (etc.)
2. Please make sure your kiai sections are snapped correctly
3. Resnap all sliders on all difficulties

[Too ShallowLord!]
02:23:634 (1) - Use a slider instead of spinner, it's too short for easiest diff


[ShadowDeep]
Please try to reduce the score a bit, kinda breaks the diff spread
~200m > 500m > 600m > 900m > 1200 m


[Too Shiek!]
Avoid to use the same slider velocity as easiest diffs next time
00:52:420 (1) - Should be started from 00:52:032 -
01:30:017 (5) - Delete (this stream doesn't make sense, just add a triple at 01:30:146 normally)
01:53:272 (6,7) - aw, you used a wide spacing for 1/4 beats here,
and afterwards you used such 0.48x for 1/2 beats on 01:53:402 (7,1) - :\?



Not going to mod a wall, but this map needs more works. Good luck.