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Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

Chris wrote:

tell me then what you've gathered from me posting? I'd love to hear this
Well you could say I've gathered that you don't believe anything that is unconfirmed as useful :P

Which is fine, we're all entitled to our own opinion.

But also, my initial thoughts of you back when you were fueling the fires under Swift and Lybydose was "why are you doing this?"

So yes, what were you hoping to find/achieve with that? Somehow I don't think your intention was for them to vote each other.
I was wondering why neither swift or lybydose was voting for each other if it would of made such a significant difference in how many extra votes they would of needed to be lynched.

it made no sense so it's only natural to put out the possibility that they are both indeed mafia

you notice swift has still yet to vote even after being at the top of the list, when he could of saved himself before

lybydose never voted to ensure his survival either
Chris_old
also it's not that I believe anything unconfirmed is useless, I just believe that there is very little to gain from what happens d1 until later on in the game

d1 lynch is always gonna end up being for the most part random, maybe because of a wrong choice of words or just a really overly defensive attitude like swift

but it will never be based on anything that's a for sure thing
Rantai
To be honest, I would have thought voting last minute would have been the smarter way to do so because voting the person with the most/second most votes would've raised a few eyebrows. Especially if it was only based on saving themselves.
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count

Swiftwolf Yellowtail (4): DeathxShinigami, Rolled, akrolsmir, foulcoon

NoHItter (2): 0_o, pieguy1372

Lybydose (1): Chris

0_o (1): Mashley

Mashley (1): LadySuburu

Not voting: Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Wojjan, Lybydose, animask, NoHItter

edit: changed order for clarity
Rantai
Alright, I won't dispute that.
Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

To be honest, I would have thought voting last minute would have been the smarter way to do so because voting the person with the most/second most votes would've raised a few eyebrows. Especially if it was only based on saving themselves.
that's where the bandwagon comes in though, especially with mafia members

see someone with a bunch of votes, add on another, next person does the same all to just confirm their place at least past d1

if you don't take the offensive you're just going to end up getting voted for

just like whats happening with swifttail now since he decided to pout rather than vote
Rolled
Time before the day ends please, host. ^____^

Unvote because I really haven't analyzed shit in the last 5 pages, and the furry guy was a RV.
Chris_old
38 hours remain
Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Day 1. You have 72 hours from this post until nightfall.

That's september 19th 12:13 am EST, september 18th 9:13 pm PST afaik correct me if I'm wrong
Posted: 34 hours ago
0_o
We've got ~38 hours

unvote because it's legit voting time

EDIT: dammit guys
Rantai

Chris wrote:

that's where the bandwagon comes in though, especially with mafia members

see someone with a bunch of votes, add on another, next person does the same all to just confirm their place at least past d1

if you don't take the offensive you're just going to end up getting voted for

just like whats happening with swifttail now since he decided to pout rather than vote
On the flip side, his pouting isn't sitting well in the first place, irrespective of voting.
Rantai
*even if he had voted I doubt the outcome would be different

Gees I need to learn to consolidate thoughts.

Edit: Going to sleep now, see you in 12 hours or something.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Prod: DeathxShinigami, Mashley

akrolsmir wrote:

Swift, instead of talking about yourself (which you don't seem to be very good at), how about you tell us who you think is suspicious?
Personally, I'd say I have two suspicions, but sticking to one person.

FoS foulcoon: Resorting to insults. Help a new guy out for once, will ya? Don't try to leave them in the dust and act all high and mighty.

Chris: Really? If I really was mafia, and he was, too, why would he attack me? That's not a good tactic, especially if it's D1.
Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Chris: Really? If I really was mafia, and he was, too, why would he attack me? That's not a good tactic, especially if it's D1.
hahahahahahahahahaHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DeathxShinigami
Well doesn't someone feel strong to encourage a prod?

Anywho, it's day 1 afterall for everyone there isn't much to go on until a lynch occurs on night actions happen (considering if there is a no lynch which is doubtful)
LadySuburu
FoS: DxS same gut as mashley's
akrolsmir
Unvote, vote: DxS

LS beat me to it.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Wojjan wrote:

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Chris: Really? If I really was mafia, and he was, too, why would he attack me? That's not a good tactic, especially if it's D1.
hahahahahahahahahaHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Okay, okay, I'll admit that was stupid. To be honest, I have pulled off that trick before, and it worked perfectly. But again, I've said this before, and I'll say it again: "To be blunt, I am not mafia."
0_o

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

But again, I've said this before, and I'll say it again: "To be blunt, I am not mafia."
New plan guys, everyone who isn't mafia say so.
Wojjan
I'm not mafia, and swift isn't mafia so that makes two confirmed town
foulcoon

0_o wrote:

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

But again, I've said this before, and I'll say it again: "To be blunt, I am not mafia."
New plan guys, everyone who isn't mafia say so.
lol'd
Wojjan
oh wait Swift fossed foulcoon didn't he well he's confirmed town new plan everyone who isn't mafia vote foulcoon
Chris_old
vote: mafia
foulcoon
SPOILER
NO DONT DO IT I SWEAR IM NOT MAFIA

new favorites for the lynch: Swift, DxS

DxS just sounds scummy. Hes like: "What is this strong guys or something dude?". Yeah, totally scummy.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
I'm going to be honest, what I say is the truth. I know that I've been acting like a complete idiot, but if I lied to you, I personally wouldn't say "to be blunt," but if you want to think that I am the mafia, go right ahead. I'm not gonna stop you. Just keep in mind that last game, when this EXACT SAME THING happened, I turned up town. (I'm confusing myself when I say this, because I clearly said that I didn't want to bring this back up, but here I am, doing it anyway. I'm such a hypocrite.)
Wojjan

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

I'm going to be honest, what I say is the truth. I know that I've been acting like a complete idiot, but if I lied to you, I personally wouldn't say "to be blunt," but if you want to think that I am the mafia, go right ahead. I'm not gonna stop you. Just keep in mind that last game, when this EXACT SAME THING happened, I turned up town. (I'm confusing myself when I say this, because I clearly said that I didn't want to bring this back up, but here I am, doing it anyway. I'm such a hypocrite.)
stop making emotional arguments they don't mean jack
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Just trying to prove a point.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Also, FoS Faceman, Wojjan. Pick on the new guy, eh? Is that your tactic?
foulcoon
change your avatar and I'll consider changing my vote
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
Removed.
0_o

Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:

Also, FoS Faceman, Wojjan. Pick on the new guy, eh? Is that your tactic?
Not really, I'm actually leaning more towards town with you at the moment. Just found your claim amusing.
Chris_old
lol'd

stay dedicated swiftwolf
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
..To what?
Wojjan
what the fuck swiftwolf you FOS everyone who suspects you
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
No, if that was the case, I'd be FoSing almost everyone.
Sleep Powder
Current Thoughts:

Rolled felt a bit suspicious by asking when the day phase is going to end. Anticipating something at night? I find
it a bit odd that he didn't check at the earlier posts to find out. His conversation with Chris about Day 1 information/speculation
seems like something I might need to recall later. I don't really want to go into talking about the differences between info and speculation in Day 1.

@VashWolf SwiftTail Anything you post can be used against you. You have the right to remain silent (for a while). I don't think
roleclaiming will save you at this point. Stop trying to poorly defend yourself and make some logical deductions on your own. Also don't OMGUS FoS people... please.

LS is using his gut a lot. He doesn't believe in RVS... hmm... (Yes, I know the difference between the two.) Nothing much
to use for a vote at this time. Neutral
foulcoon
Unvote, Vote: DxS
foulcoon
doubleposting to say wow, animask also sounds like a scummy mc'scummerson
Sleep Powder
@foulcoon When don't I? Also, I'm assuming people are FoSing DxS because he might be avoiding something?
Sleep Powder
Just in case it sounded like I was suspicious of LadySuburu, I was just noticing the 2 that FoS'd DxS and akrolismor's vote.
LadySuburu

animask wrote:

@foulcoon When don't I? Also, I'm assuming people are FoSing DxS because he might be avoiding something?
My FoS has nothing to do with^
Mashley
Ahhhh crap I really need to post
Swiftwolf is like animask all over again. Swiftwolf, I reccomend you ready through some other mafia games to get some sort of feel for the game because at the moment you're making all sort of mistakes whichever side you're one.
Unvote because there's no point leaving a RVS in a bit. At the moment my gut is leaning towards foulcoon and Lybydose. Possibly because their playstyle is naturally more aggressive; but there's no point voting based on gut right now so I'll leave it.
LadySuburu
Unvote Vote: DxS stronger gut.
Chris_old
why so bandwagon suburu
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

why so bandwagon suburu
Better than other Lynchs yknow
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count

DeathxShinigami (3): akrolsmir, foulcoon, LadySuburu

Lybydose (1): Chris

NoHItter (1): pieguy1372

Swiftwolf Yellowtail (1): DeathxShinigami

Not voting: Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Wojjan, Lybydose, animask, NoHItter, Rolled, 0_o, Mashley

15 people alive = 8 votes lynches btw
Lybydose
vote: DxS
0_o
hmm

Swift wrote:

Faceman: If I do my calculations correctly, there's a 2 in 3 chance that I'm still town.
What makes you think there are 5 mafia?
akrolsmir

0_o wrote:

hmm

Swift wrote:

Faceman: If I do my calculations correctly, there's a 2 in 3 chance that I'm still town.
What makes you think there are 5 mafia?
He might be suspecting some anti-town but not mafia, like SK. Or more likely, he's just failing at math. It's not as if voting is a complete crapshoot, either, so don't worry about it too much.

---

On a thread reread- mostly puzzled by what chris was going on about all this time, especially that stuff about self-preservation votes when there was 2 days to go and no more than 3 votes on any one person. Waiting for DxS to say something. Oh, pieguy, done thinking through your gut yet?
Rantai
akrolsmir, I do believe that whole topic was about using the self preservation vote to take the offensive so a bandwagon is less likely to form on you and how it was suspicious they weren't using it as such.

And lol this reread is hilarious.

DxS, got anything to say about your bandwagon?
pieguyn
I only saw one post from DxS, and it seems very neutral. As I said in a previous game, if we don't take a proper stance on anything, we won't find out who the mafia is.

unvote, vote: DxS
DeathxShinigami
On the bandwagon upon me I can only say that town will be harmed much more if I do get lynched.

Unfortunately I am unable to roleclaim due to role restrictions.
Rolled
Usually when you're unable to roleclaim, you are also unable to say you are unable to claim.
Rantai
I think that comes down to a case-by-case basis, Rolled.
Chris_old

Rolled wrote:

Usually when you're unable to roleclaim, you are also unable to say you are unable to claim.
I agree
Chris_old
so easy to slip by with a vote on dxs without having to explain anything thanks to the bandwagon :(

life is easy huh lybydose
Sleep Powder
I have a role that I can't claim or attempt to reveal in any way. Nothing said that I couldn't say that.

I think he's actually pro-town, but there is a possibility of a Mafia/Independent alternative to that type of role.
akrolsmir
Yeah, I'm not allowed to roleclaim either.

Here, though, I think he could be making up the restriction, especially since he's kind of hinting at his role, and my PM states that doing so is forbidden too.

Oh, and I highly highly doubt scum would get a restriction on claiming.
NoHitter
I go to sleep and poof, so many pages >.>

Wojjan wrote:

well Hitter assume you're both mafs for a second. pieguy knows you're maf and votes you as a "gut feeling" which wow chigga wow boom bang he's a maf! pieguy definitely looks town now, lynching a maf D1!
That statement is full of WIFOM. You're basically saying that anyone arguing with someone else is scum.

Can people also tell me why they're voting for DxS? Or is everyone really using gut only >.>

animask wrote:

@VashWolf SwiftTail Anything you post can be used against you. You have the right to remain silent (for a while). I don't think roleclaiming will save you at this point. Stop trying to poorly defend yourself and make some logical deductions on your own. Also don't OMGUS FoS people... please.
Are you suggesting someone to actively lurk?
FoS: animask

Vote: Swift
Overreaction to RVS. Too many logic fails in defending himself including usage of WIFOM and Appeal to Emotion.
Some people are saying that Swift feels sort of like animask, but that's not a valid excuse to not vote for him. (Then again, I don't believe in meta)
foulcoon
Unvote

Starting to form a theory based on role pm terminology.

No vote for now...
Rantai

NoHItter wrote:

Some people are saying that Swift feels sort of like animask, but that's not a valid excuse to not vote for him. (Then again, I don't believe in meta)
This is something I strongly agree with, but I can't shake the feeling that he's town. I think my thinking goes along the lines of; if he was really anti-town, why constantly put himself into the spotlight?

Yeah, it's all wifom. But judging by how 'honest' it looks (lack of better words) I'm not so sure. Am I being too naive?
Sleep Powder
@NoHiTter

I'm saying that people have the option to lurk or say something. Loosely lurking, as in just reading posts until something comes up that
you want to contribute to.
pieguyn
I think that the issue of being allowed to say you're not allowed to claim or not is more of a case-by-case basis, especially because two more people just said they're in the same position. :? Actually, unvote: DxS because his claim sounds a lot more reasonable now that other people have said the same thing. One of them could still be mafia who want a convenient excuse not to roleclaim, but this is WIFOM.

I find it somewhat suspicious how Lybydose blatantly bandwagoned. My gut still says NoHItter though... plus, he FoS'ed animask for an odd reason. He wasn't really encouraging lurking, but instead trying to stop Swiftwolf from being so defensive, something I definitely think would be beneficial for the town.

So I'll vote: NoHItter.
Topic Starter
Two_old
10. don't try to exploit things pls
just a friendly reminder
Wojjan
When's the deadline mod? Days seem so long I don't even know.
Rantai
~14 hours from now.
foulcoon

Two wrote:

10. don't try to exploit things pls
just a friendly reminder
Ill keep it to myself, sorry bro.
Mashley
Wait, who's exploiting?
Topic Starter
Two_old
no one has or is, I just saw the thread taking a dip in that direction and wanted to remind everyone not to

and there's less than 12 hours left in day 1 at this point
Lybydose

pieguy1372 wrote:

I find it somewhat suspicious how Lybydose blatantly bandwagoned.[/b]
>suspects person for bandwagoning

>bandwagons same guy he is
foulcoon
vote: Chris
Chris_old

foulcoon wrote:

vote: Chris
are you slow
Wojjan

Chris wrote:

foulcoon wrote:

vote: Chris
are you slow
explain your thoughts or I will eat you
LadySuburu
I dont believe DxSs claim here
akrolsmir
Vote Count

DeathxShinigami (3): akrolsmir, LadySuburu, Lybydose,

Lybydose (1): Chris

NoHItter (1): pieguy1372

Swiftwolf Yellowtail (2): DeathxShinigami, NoHItter,

Chris (1): foulcoon,

Not voting: Rantai, Swiftwolf Yellowtail, Wojjan, animask, Rolled, 0_o, Mashley,

15 people alive = 8 votes lynches btw.

About 10 hours to go.
---

Staying with DxS because I don't believe his claim... and he hasn't said anything since. Want to come up with a better reason we shouldn't lynch you?

No one's exactly lurking, but a lot of people are getting by without saying much of anything. Guys, the less you vote the more influence scum have and the less information we have.

Oh wait, never mind. prod: Swift where'd you go?
foulcoon

Chris wrote:

foulcoon wrote:

vote: Chris
are you slow
nope, I see you playing like an aggressive tard whilst contributing next to nothing. Also you agreeing with rolled on the ability to roleclaim struck me as odd because of what others have said about their restrictions.
Swiftwolf Yellowtail
akrol: Still here.
Chris_old

foulcoon wrote:

nope, I see you playing like an aggressive tard whilst contributing next to nothing. Also you agreeing with rolled on the ability to roleclaim struck me as odd because of what others have said about their restrictions.
sounds like you're upset friend

I've contributed more than anyone else
Chris_old

Wojjan wrote:

explain your thoughts or I will eat you
voting for me is a joke ^_^

foulcoons just upset I hammered him
Lybydose
This whole inability to roleclaim ordeal makes me a bit uneasy. Going to unvote on DxS for now. However, based on his past meta, I'm not too sure. He's had "unable to claim" roles before as town, and he never actually said that. Seems a bit odd that he suddenly does now.

However...
Vote: Mashley

He's mafia.

Some of you may be able to pick up on why.
foulcoon

Chris wrote:

Wojjan wrote:

explain your thoughts or I will eat you
voting for me is a joke ^_^

foulcoons just upset I hammered him
meta
Mashley
Ordinarily DxS' roleclaim would seem odd, but if other people have the same restriction it's much more believable imo.


Lybydose wrote:

He's had "unable to claim" roles before as town, and he never actually said that. Seems a bit odd that he suddenly does now.
Perhaps, but he had 4 votes on him and if his role is as important as he claims it is it's understandable that he wants to stay alive. Might seem like I'm buddying up with him here but honestly I think from what he's said lynching him is far too big of a risk to take.
Chris_old

Mashley wrote:

Ordinarily DxS' roleclaim would seem odd, but if other people have the same restriction it's much more believable imo.


Lybydose wrote:

He's had "unable to claim" roles before as town, and he never actually said that. Seems a bit odd that he suddenly does now.
Perhaps, but he had 4 votes on him and if his role is as important as he claims it is it's understandable that he wants to stay alive. Might seem like I'm buddying up with him here but honestly I think from what he's said lynching him is far too big of a risk to take.
what I gathered from his post was "I did this same thing in the game before and was town, so obviously if I do it again I must be town"

not that I'm going to vote for him, but just saying
Wojjan

Lybydose wrote:

Vote: Mashley

He's mafia.

Some of you may be able to pick up on why.
explain your reasoning or I will eat you
Chris_old

Wojjan wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

Vote: Mashley

He's mafia.

Some of you may be able to pick up on why.
explain your reasoning or I will eat you
are you roleclaiming werewolf
Wojjan
like seriously two is rolling over in his modseat from all your assertions without anything to back them up. Withholding information of any kind, your own logic included and maybe even especially, is the very essence of anti-town play. Give your reasoning with your vote, with your every vote.

Or I will EAT YOU
Wojjan
naw chris I just like saying eat you want me to switch to END YOU?
Chris_old

Wojjan wrote:

naw chris I just like saying eat you want me to switch to END YOU?
no cause you can't play off your nk if you say that
Wojjan
sure I can I won't say it tomorrow at any point in time and you won't have any more kills at all

(by the way do you really think there's a role that says "you're a serial killer but you can only kill when you say eat you"?)
Chris_old

Wojjan wrote:

sure I can I won't say it tomorrow at any point in time and you won't have any more kills at all

(by the way do you really think there's a role that says "you're a serial killer but you can only kill when you say eat you"?)
I don't know but I am curious if there is a SK
LadySuburu

Mashley wrote:

Ordinarily DxS' roleclaim would seem odd, but if other people have the same restriction it's much more believable imo.
Yet I don't believe his claim.
Chris_old
you usually make long posts suburu why so closeted this game
Swiftwolf Yellowtail

Wojjan wrote:

Lybydose wrote:

Vote: Mashley

He's mafia.

Some of you may be able to pick up on why.
explain your reasoning or I will eat you
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's because of sheer inactivity. To be honest, I'd like to hear more about this claim, myself.
LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

you usually make long posts suburu why so closeted this game
Can't say. Is Still fun though
LadySuburu
Also, Lyby is likely right too
Wojjan
hey rolled stick around why dontcha
Rolled
hold on eating sandwich
Chris_old
Suburu your last 3 posts have been 30 characters each

I assume that is a requirement for your role


edit: every single post?
Lybydose
Every post. LS is either Jester or town.
Lybydose
@above: can't really see exactly 30-characters being a mafia post restriction but hey could be making the whole thing up
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