my entire argument is based around d1Rolled wrote:
Do you realize how little in mafia is confirmed? Nine times out of ten a decision must be made without previous confirmation on whether it's good or bad.
This is really derailing the thread though. I'm just showing flaws in your argument.
what information can you gather that is useful d1 other than roleclaims?Rolled wrote:
Nobody is arguing that information on d1 is generally lower than information in later days. What people are arguing is that there is no information to be gathered day 1.
anyone you lynch d1 is going to be lynched blindly 100% of the time unless they just claim mafiaRantai wrote:
And there lies the disagreement (that I have at least).
I see information as anything that can be used to read a player, whether that be 'speculation' or otherwise. At the very least it could help with choosing a D1 lynch as opposed to blindly picking or 'gut voting'.
.....Wow ninjas.
tell me then what you've gathered from me posting? I'd love to hear thisRolled wrote:
So are you suggesting that we do not have more information on you than we have against somebody who has posted 0 times?
This conversation is such a derailer so just admit you are wrong and be on with it.
exactly, nothingRolled wrote:
I gathered that you're bad at mafia
I think you've got your games switched upRolled wrote:
If a hypothetical situation arises in which a bus driver were to switch you with player x, and player x dies, it's more likely that you are a strongman rather than you shooting yourself anticipating my switch. Hypothetically.
See, I concluded that due to information I gathered on day 1.
Well you could say I've gathered that you don't believe anything that is unconfirmed as usefulChris wrote:
tell me then what you've gathered from me posting? I'd love to hear this
I was wondering why neither swift or lybydose was voting for each other if it would of made such a significant difference in how many extra votes they would of needed to be lynched.Rantai wrote:
Well you could say I've gathered that you don't believe anything that is unconfirmed as usefulChris wrote:
tell me then what you've gathered from me posting? I'd love to hear this
Which is fine, we're all entitled to our own opinion.
But also, my initial thoughts of you back when you were fueling the fires under Swift and Lybydose was "why are you doing this?"
So yes, what were you hoping to find/achieve with that? Somehow I don't think your intention was for them to vote each other.
that's where the bandwagon comes in though, especially with mafia membersRantai wrote:
To be honest, I would have thought voting last minute would have been the smarter way to do so because voting the person with the most/second most votes would've raised a few eyebrows. Especially if it was only based on saving themselves.
It's now Day 1. You have 72 hours from this post until nightfall.Posted: 34 hours ago
That's september 19th 12:13 am EST, september 18th 9:13 pm PST afaik correct me if I'm wrong
On the flip side, his pouting isn't sitting well in the first place, irrespective of voting.Chris wrote:
that's where the bandwagon comes in though, especially with mafia members
see someone with a bunch of votes, add on another, next person does the same all to just confirm their place at least past d1
if you don't take the offensive you're just going to end up getting voted for
just like whats happening with swifttail now since he decided to pout rather than vote
Personally, I'd say I have two suspicions, but sticking to one person.akrolsmir wrote:
Swift, instead of talking about yourself (which you don't seem to be very good at), how about you tell us who you think is suspicious?
hahahahahahahahahaHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASwiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Chris: Really? If I really was mafia, and he was, too, why would he attack me? That's not a good tactic, especially if it's D1.
Okay, okay, I'll admit that was stupid. To be honest, I have pulled off that trick before, and it worked perfectly. But again, I've said this before, and I'll say it again: "To be blunt, I am not mafia."Wojjan wrote:
hahahahahahahahahaHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHASwiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Chris: Really? If I really was mafia, and he was, too, why would he attack me? That's not a good tactic, especially if it's D1.
New plan guys, everyone who isn't mafia say so.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
But again, I've said this before, and I'll say it again: "To be blunt, I am not mafia."
lol'd0_o wrote:
New plan guys, everyone who isn't mafia say so.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
But again, I've said this before, and I'll say it again: "To be blunt, I am not mafia."
stop making emotional arguments they don't mean jackSwiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
I'm going to be honest, what I say is the truth. I know that I've been acting like a complete idiot, but if I lied to you, I personally wouldn't say "to be blunt," but if you want to think that I am the mafia, go right ahead. I'm not gonna stop you. Just keep in mind that last game, when this EXACT SAME THING happened, I turned up town. (I'm confusing myself when I say this, because I clearly said that I didn't want to bring this back up, but here I am, doing it anyway. I'm such a hypocrite.)
Not really, I'm actually leaning more towards town with you at the moment. Just found your claim amusing.Swiftwolf Yellowtail wrote:
Also, FoS Faceman, Wojjan. Pick on the new guy, eh? Is that your tactic?
My FoS has nothing to do with^animask wrote:
@foulcoon When don't I? Also, I'm assuming people are FoSing DxS because he might be avoiding something?
Better than other Lynchs yknowChris wrote:
why so bandwagon suburu
What makes you think there are 5 mafia?Swift wrote:
Faceman: If I do my calculations correctly, there's a 2 in 3 chance that I'm still town.
He might be suspecting some anti-town but not mafia, like SK. Or more likely, he's just failing at math. It's not as if voting is a complete crapshoot, either, so don't worry about it too much.0_o wrote:
hmmWhat makes you think there are 5 mafia?Swift wrote:
Faceman: If I do my calculations correctly, there's a 2 in 3 chance that I'm still town.
I agreeRolled wrote:
Usually when you're unable to roleclaim, you are also unable to say you are unable to claim.
That statement is full of WIFOM. You're basically saying that anyone arguing with someone else is scum.Wojjan wrote:
well Hitter assume you're both mafs for a second. pieguy knows you're maf and votes you as a "gut feeling" which wow chigga wow boom bang he's a maf! pieguy definitely looks town now, lynching a maf D1!
Are you suggesting someone to actively lurk?animask wrote:
@VashWolf SwiftTail Anything you post can be used against you. You have the right to remain silent (for a while). I don't think roleclaiming will save you at this point. Stop trying to poorly defend yourself and make some logical deductions on your own. Also don't OMGUS FoS people... please.
This is something I strongly agree with, but I can't shake the feeling that he's town. I think my thinking goes along the lines of; if he was really anti-town, why constantly put himself into the spotlight?NoHItter wrote:
Some people are saying that Swift feels sort of like animask, but that's not a valid excuse to not vote for him. (Then again, I don't believe in meta)
Actually, unvote: DxS because his claim sounds a lot more reasonable now that other people have said the same thing. One of them could still be mafia who want a convenient excuse not to roleclaim, but this is WIFOM.10. don't try to exploit things plsjust a friendly reminder
Ill keep it to myself, sorry bro.Two wrote:
10. don't try to exploit things plsjust a friendly reminder
>suspects person for bandwagoningpieguy1372 wrote:
I find it somewhat suspicious how Lybydose blatantly bandwagoned.[/b]
explain your thoughts or I will eat youChris wrote:
are you slowfoulcoon wrote:
vote: Chris
nope, I see you playing like an aggressive tard whilst contributing next to nothing. Also you agreeing with rolled on the ability to roleclaim struck me as odd because of what others have said about their restrictions.Chris wrote:
are you slowfoulcoon wrote:
vote: Chris
sounds like you're upset friendfoulcoon wrote:
nope, I see you playing like an aggressive tard whilst contributing next to nothing. Also you agreeing with rolled on the ability to roleclaim struck me as odd because of what others have said about their restrictions.
voting for me is a joke ^_^Wojjan wrote:
explain your thoughts or I will eat you
metaChris wrote:
voting for me is a joke ^_^Wojjan wrote:
explain your thoughts or I will eat you
foulcoons just upset I hammered him
Perhaps, but he had 4 votes on him and if his role is as important as he claims it is it's understandable that he wants to stay alive. Might seem like I'm buddying up with him here but honestly I think from what he's said lynching him is far too big of a risk to take.Lybydose wrote:
He's had "unable to claim" roles before as town, and he never actually said that. Seems a bit odd that he suddenly does now.
what I gathered from his post was "I did this same thing in the game before and was town, so obviously if I do it again I must be town"Mashley wrote:
Ordinarily DxS' roleclaim would seem odd, but if other people have the same restriction it's much more believable imo.Perhaps, but he had 4 votes on him and if his role is as important as he claims it is it's understandable that he wants to stay alive. Might seem like I'm buddying up with him here but honestly I think from what he's said lynching him is far too big of a risk to take.Lybydose wrote:
He's had "unable to claim" roles before as town, and he never actually said that. Seems a bit odd that he suddenly does now.
explain your reasoning or I will eat youLybydose wrote:
Vote: Mashley
He's mafia.
Some of you may be able to pick up on why.
are you roleclaiming werewolfWojjan wrote:
explain your reasoning or I will eat youLybydose wrote:
Vote: Mashley
He's mafia.
Some of you may be able to pick up on why.