How is it weak? There's not a single person in this game that would argue how overpowered chris's role is. I give faceman and lyby a lot of credit, too much to consider that role to be straight-forward.
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it's weak because we are arguing the strength of his role after the factRolled wrote:
How is it weak?
0_o and lybydose did not know what he would state to them before the game started, and I can almost guarantee they didn't envision "these 4 people are pro-town"
even if you ignore that, you can not seriously say that it's worth throwing away an aux+an extremely informative night ability based on what the hosts may or may not have thought (unless there is solid evidence for that shown in any of 0_o or lybydose's posts)
It doesn't matter in the end though. If they find it's overpowered, they have the right to remove it without forewarning per the rules...
can you show me what you are referring toLilac wrote:
they have the right to remove it without forewarning per the rules...
If you believed that as a possibility and wanted to test it, I would go with a statement like "X is anti-town."Rantai wrote:
I have been thinking about this one for a while, I have a gut feeling that every result he gets may come out true.
If it's true, we lynch X and see. (Proves sanity and potentially gives a mafia.)
If it's false then not every result is true, therefore that can't be the problem with his role.
Here's my opinion on why sanities don't work for his ability, and how we can prove they are true or not if needed.
Naive: Role is instantly useless. Proven by multiple plans, one of which I've outlined above.
Insane: Equally as broken. Test "Chris is Mafia". Once sanity is confirmed you can use the role as normal by asking the opposite question of what you wanted to ask.
Paranoid: Role is instantly useless. Impossible since Chris got a true.
Random: Role is instantly useless.
Other: I can't think of any other sanity types, and pretty much any custom ones would also make his role useless.
As for chris's role, in a situation where you're not gambling you either get a confirmed town or confirmed anti-town every night. Just like a cop. (X is pro town. 0% gamble.)
No one said anything about throwing/disregarding anything.Two wrote:
even if you ignore that, you can not seriously say that it's worth throwing away an aux+an extremely informative night ability based on what the hosts may or may not have thought (unless there is solid evidence for that shown in any of 0_o or lybydose's posts)
It won't hurt to be sure about things?
Although, I don't have any ideas on how to go about that :/. At first I thought maybe use a cop to check if he's mafia but then again, as rolled brought up, there's a possibility he could be insane. If he's insane wouldn't that mean there's a good chance there's a psychiatrist in this game? Maybe he can be cured overnight?
Hurr durr, 0_o or Doc can add a "I reserve the right to change roles" or some crud and bam.OP wrote:
25. I reserve the right to change these rules.
The host of a mafia game needs to consider all possibilities when distributing roles such as these. I realize I'm basing my logic on faceman and lyby's ability to host, but until I have a reason not to, I will continue to do so.
You're suggesting they expected Chris to send in the name of one user each night? Why wouldn't they just give him a cop role.
I know you're planning on hosting a mafia game, what would you expect as a host when designing this role? LS, how about you?
You're suggesting they expected Chris to send in the name of one user each night? Why wouldn't they just give him a cop role.
I know you're planning on hosting a mafia game, what would you expect as a host when designing this role? LS, how about you?
He's using my rules, in which this is in play:Two wrote:
can you show me what you are referring to
25. I reserve the right to change these rules.
Which means any time, any place he can change the rules and the roles. (I don't expect him to, and I honestly don't change roles mid-game with that rule unless it's 100% apperent that the game can't continue properly otherwise. As in, the revivals from the old Ace of Hearts games. I would have changed the role right then and there.)
That being said, I doubt he will since I don't believe Chris's role to be overpowered. It's a gambling role that when played safe is just a cop.
I hate it when like 5 people post at the same time...
Rolled, I feel like ladysuburu just owned your argument completely but I will respond one last time to what you just said.
and again, there is no point trying to convince people to go against facts based off of feelings you have that aren't evidenced in reality
You're suggesting they expected Chris to send in the name of one user each night? Why wouldn't they just give him a cop role.I think it's just to allow more flexibility. It could turn into a watcher role, or it could be whatever that role is called that says how many mafia voted for someone
and again, there is no point trying to convince people to go against facts based off of feelings you have that aren't evidenced in reality
I've partially answered this before, but I'll go into more detail here.Rolled wrote:
I know you're planning on hosting a mafia game, what would you expect as a host when designing this role? LS, how about you?
In a small game using this exact role, I would likely put limitations on the role. (Or not use it.) Since in a 9 man with 2 mafia, you can break the game rather easilly. I would expect someone to either use it as a Cop, or use it like "A, B, and C are town." Since you get 3 lynch attempts in a 9 man game, you would get a guarenteed mafia kill or 3 confirmed town. (Although, put into LyLo.) Or, "A and B are town." Again, you get two confirmed town or a confirmed mafia and not even in LyLo.
In a game this size, I would not limit the role. The gambles become less effective and more risky once you factor more players and neutral roles. We've already confirmed a Lyncher which is not pro-town, and we know there's likely 3 mafia. Again, used in the safest way a role like this is a cop. The more you gamble with it, the more risky it is. Although, "A and B are pro-town." Gives decent information with less sacrifice, but once you've claimed you're vulnerable. (This being said, I would have to playtest it more to understand the power of the role. I likely won't use lie detectors except in gimmick games anyway, but that's just me as a host.)
So as I've said about 3 times and I hope I've conveyed properly by now, Chris's role is not overpowered. Chris just got lucky / made a smart choice of players to choose from.
I assume that if he had gotten false, he would have narrowed it down more before claiming.
Anything else I need to explain?
(Actually enjoying this.)The fact of the matter is, not everybody is 100% confident in the results Chris brings to the table. Taking an insane-test will ensure that his role is straight forward (or prove to be the opposite), thus allowing everybody to gather opinions based on the information he brings.
Your attitude towards the matter is selfish, almost as if you don't want to reveal Chris to be insane. If you wanted the best for your teammates, assuming they are town, then you would support establishing confidence for the rest of your team, even if you are 101% certain yourself.
@LS:
/fixedquote
Your attitude towards the matter is selfish, almost as if you don't want to reveal Chris to be insane. If you wanted the best for your teammates, assuming they are town, then you would support establishing confidence for the rest of your team, even if you are 101% certain yourself.
@LS:
Not equally as broken, because it requires a dummy-night to verify. The insane variation could be an attempt to balance the brokenness of the role.LS wrote:
Insane: Equally as broken. Test "Chris is Mafia". Once sanity is confirmed you can use the role as normal by asking the opposite question of what you wanted to ask.
/fixedquote
I'd also like to add @Two, you may say LS is owning my argument, however both of your reasonings are opposite. You're suggesting Chris's role is overpowered and 0_o didn't notice, while LS is suggesting the role is balanced.
You really don't care what the logic is behind something, as long as they share the same yes/no answer.
You really don't care what the logic is behind something, as long as they share the same yes/no answer.
The question isn't whether you are 100% confident in his results. It's whether you doubt them enough to sacrifice a power role & waste a night of his ability. The only reason you have is baseless speculation about 0_o and lybydose's foresight. I said I wasn't going to respond again but jeez it's like you inherited your predecessor's aversion to reading.
edit: and in regards to ladysuburu I felt he closed any holes for that argument to crawl out of
edit: and in regards to ladysuburu I felt he closed any holes for that argument to crawl out of
Okay, so It's almost equally as broken just takes a startup night. It still would give the results and you wouldn't claim until you had them.Rolled wrote:
The fact of the matter is, not everybody is 100% confident in the results Chris brings to the table. Taking an insane-test will ensure that his role is straight forward (or prove to be the opposite), thus allowing everybody to gather opinions based on the information he brings.
Your attitude towards the matter is selfish, almost as if you don't want to reveal Chris to be insane. If you wanted the best for your teammates, assuming they are town, then you would support establishing confidence for the rest of your team, even if you are 101% certain yourself.
@LS:
Not equally as broken, because it requires a dummy-night to verify. The insane variation could be an attempt to balance the brokenness of the role.
As for confirming his sanity with that role, it's still a bad idea at this point. Since we're already entangled in with Chris claimed, they're going to kill him as soon as possible. Wasting a result at this point could mean wasting our only other result we'll ever get. Based on claims that have gone out and knowing myself as town (and Mashley all but confirming it with his Lyncher claim), I'm sure enough that Chris is sane that I'm willing to follow him as if it was "Follow the Cop". I'm usually the one who doesn't trust anyone (At least internally, if I show it or not.)
If we get down to the point where it becomes important to verify Chris (Days later) Then we can do so. However I'd rather not give up our main advantage at the moment when I assume he'll be dead or useless by the next day.
Truth is, if Chris is correct, town would need to screw up a lot in order to lose a game with like 6 confirmed townies d2. However, town is destined to lose if he is in fact insane and gets lynched before he is able to prove it. There would be a 0 chance of town recovering if we base all future lynches around Chris's false information. Verifying the information is worth one less night of added information on his part, imo.
There's not much more I can argue at this point with you. The main difference here that makes it impossible for me to do so is this:Rolled wrote:
Truth is, if Chris is correct, town would need to screw up a lot in order to lose a game with like 6 confirmed townies d2. However, town is destined to lose if he is in fact insane and gets lynched before he is able to prove it. There would be a 0 chance of town recovering if we base all future lynches around Chris's false information. Verifying the information is worth one less night of added information on his part, imo.
I believe based on the information that I have that Chris is sane.
You don't believe this.
Also, this statement is false and assumes we're all idiots:
However, town is destined to lose if he is in fact insane and gets lynched before he is able to prove it. There would be a 0 chance of town recovering if we base all future lynches around Chris's false information.Assuming we get to a point where things are that dire or almost that dire, we'd then consider rethinking the information. This is also not counting any other auxes we may have that can gather information. (Day before LyLo, for example.)
If we halt the information gathering now, we lessen our chances to win instead of basically guarenteeing them.
If we HAD to test a statement to confirm his sanity, I would test "Mashley is anti-town." He's claimed Lyncher, so if False Chris is insane. If True we verify his claim AND Chris's sanity. I still think it's a waste, but it's more productive than what you've suggested IMO.
Would neutral count as anti-town? And even if he did come up anti-town, he still could be lying about being a lyncher. I don't really think it's productiveLadySuburu wrote:
If we HAD to test a statement to confirm his sanity, I would test "Mashley is anti-town." He's claimed Lyncher, so if False Chris is insane. If True we verify his claim AND Chris's sanity. I still think it's a waste, but it's more productive than what you've suggested IMO.
Neutral, which a Lyncher is not, is not anti-town. However, even if he's lying about being a lyncher then he would be mafia or SK. We have to lynch him later anyway, and the sanity confirmation would still stand.Two wrote:
Would neutral count as anti-town? And even if he did come up anti-town, he still could be lying about being a lyncher. I don't really think it's productive
You could do "Mashley is not pro-town." and that would take care of Neutral. He would have absolutely no reason to claim what he did as town.
Again, I'd rather not waste the detect, but it's more useful.
yeah but the thing is we already know he isn't pro-town, so it's the same as chris sending "chris is mafia"
There's plenty of things more efficient than what I suggested that still prove Chris's (in)sanity. I just offered the baseline, expecting others to expand upon it.
I probably won't be able to read this entire thread and come up with a vote I feel satisfied with by the end of D2 (assuming that's in like 14 hours) I have to go to bed now, and have a shit ton of homework due tomorrow which I need to do before class.
I have a lot I'd like to add regarding the mass roleclaim thing, just don't really have the time to do it. Just going to hope that I see day 3.
I probably won't be able to read this entire thread and come up with a vote I feel satisfied with by the end of D2 (assuming that's in like 14 hours) I have to go to bed now, and have a shit ton of homework due tomorrow which I need to do before class.
I have a lot I'd like to add regarding the mass roleclaim thing, just don't really have the time to do it. Just going to hope that I see day 3.
True, I guess. Of course If he's neutral he's of no harm to us and should've claimed so anyway as opposed to claiming an anti-town role. Based on that, "Mashley is anti-town." would still be better IMO. Unless there's another reason it wouldn't work?Two wrote:
yeah but the thing is we already know he isn't pro-town, so it's the same as chris sending "chris is mafia"
well myyyyyy opinion is that we wasted way too much time talking about something that excuses mafia from posting
I still think a foulcoon lynch is the best way to go, and I think we should stop focusing on the least likely among us (like I said pages and pages ago)
I still think a foulcoon lynch is the best way to go, and I think we should stop focusing on the least likely among us (like I said pages and pages ago)
That's likely true.Two wrote:
well myyyyyy opinion is that we wasted way too much time talking about something that excuses mafia from posting
Mind reminding me why specifically you think foul should be lynched? I'm considering him as a lynch but he's not at the top for me.
Lynching foulcoon was something I planned on suggesting once I eventually caught up on the thread. Once I read the theme, I couldn't imagine him picking anybody other than BATs (or ex-bats, something along those lines ((awp, ival, seibei, rolled))
I bet I got at least 2/3 correct foul.
Combine that with his passive behavior. From memory, I recall him being more aggressive when having a pro-town role.
I bet I got at least 2/3 correct foul.
Combine that with his passive behavior. From memory, I recall him being more aggressive when having a pro-town role.
here you go
SPOILER
a vote against him, for some reason, rattled him enough to post awkardly on his phone from work:
with foulcoon, I don't know why day 1 he decided to vote at all, but I'm torn because I don't think town would have voted for deathxshinigami at that point (mashley is the only target that made sense)I think ivalset has a high likelyhood of being a mafia role, and I think his claim to be ivalset was done to be used as a tool to keep him from being lynched
day 2 when lilac proposed the vigilante kill deathxshinigami, he didn't even express opposition to it and instead chose to say this:
Quote:
Why wouldn't a vig be able to kill DxS? He already avoided lynch somehow, are you saying he could avoid bullets too? That would be OP :S
which in my mind is encouraging a vigilante to do it
a vote against him, for some reason, rattled him enough to post awkardly on his phone from work:
foulcoon wrote:
|Sorry guys I spent the holiday with my family and I wasn't able to follow the thread.
Right now the top two people I find suspicious are DxS and LunaticMara. DxS for claiming to have some awesome role and not posting after LS practically explained that it was possible DxS did nothing to affect the vote..|
1. I think a player of your caliber would know that deathxshinigami wasn't mafia and that lunaticmara missing that is actually a town tell
2. you are extremely likely to have picked 1 or more BATs for your role choices
oh and I honestly would rather one of these lurkers voted so they have a reason to talk, unvote, vote: foulcoon
well for someone who wanted to pressure lurkers, you didn't and haven't been doing much pressuringall of these quotes are of me btw
and was it really coincidence that you were online such a short amount of time from my vote for you, or do you normally just opt not to post (and thus opt not to contribute to town)?
and again, how can you say you wouldn't pick bats when I almost can't imagine you not picking them? want to share who you did pick? for full disclosure, I picked quaraezha animask and bmin11
Mmk, that's good enough reason for me when combined with how I already felt. I'll save the other players for analysis tomorrow. Wanted to know semi-quickly since I'm basically done with the thread for tonight which means day'll likely end before I see it again. I'll be sending in my hidden vote as well.
Vote: Foulcoon
Vote: Foulcoon
So what you're saying is that I was the silence target and DxS isn't quite as obvious town as before. Thanks Rolled <3Rolled wrote:
I must say I spent the last hour or so trying to plan how I'd dig myself out of this hole animask dug, but I actually am Rokodo the bus driver.
The first night animask switched DxS with foulcoon, if that can possibly validate my role with a few people.
Also Ivalset is not a fucking BAT guys. You're making a mistake.
Well guess what? I'm a BAT and I'm with town.
Considering that I'm the only one claiming BAT, I don't think the Mafia is consisting of just pure BAT.
Considering that I'm the only one claiming BAT, I don't think the Mafia is consisting of just pure BAT.
That or people are lying about their roles.
doubleposting
im tired k goodnight
im tired k goodnight
Bus driver only applies to night actions, and DxS was silenced mid-day.foulcoon wrote:
So what you're saying is that I was the silence target and DxS isn't quite as obvious town as before. Thanks Rolled <3Rolled wrote:
I must say I spent the last hour or so trying to plan how I'd dig myself out of this hole animask dug, but I actually am Rokodo the bus driver.
The first night animask switched DxS with foulcoon, if that can possibly validate my role with a few people.
Also Ivalset is not a fucking BAT guys. You're making a mistake.
Regardless of if Ival is a BAT or not, I still see you as scummy. Lying about a claim is easy.
Topic Starter
Vote Count
foulcoon (2) Two, LadySuburu
Lilac (1) akrolsmir
Haneii (1) pieguy
7.75 hours remaining
foulcoon (2) Two, LadySuburu
Lilac (1) akrolsmir
Haneii (1) pieguy
7.75 hours remaining
Lot of things happened while I was asleep woah 
As much as I hate how this vote will look like a bandwagoning, I can't find a reason why I shouldn't vote for. I was planning on voting for Lilac, but his "Well guess what? I'm a BAT and I'm with town." seems like it will be him or another situation. Lilac's respond should be what foulcoon should have said if Lilac is telling the truth.
Vote: foulcoon
tl;dr
Anyway, just made a list of people of whatever it could be used for
Town:
Two, LS, Wojjan, Chris, Rolled, DeathxShinigami (still could be independent, but atlease not with mafia), rust45
No standings:
Mara, pieguy, akrolsmir, foulcoon, bmin11, Rantai, Haneii, Lilac
Anti-Town:
Mashley
Claimed BAT:
Wojjan, Haneii, Lilac
As much as I hate how this vote will look like a bandwagoning, I can't find a reason why I shouldn't vote for. I was planning on voting for Lilac, but his "Well guess what? I'm a BAT and I'm with town." seems like it will be him or another situation. Lilac's respond should be what foulcoon should have said if Lilac is telling the truth.
Vote: foulcoon
tl;dr
Haneii also claimed to be a BAT (Shinxyn) if this ever helpsLilac wrote:
I'm the only one claiming BAT
Anyway, just made a list of people of whatever it could be used for
Town:
Two, LS, Wojjan, Chris, Rolled, DeathxShinigami (still could be independent, but atlease not with mafia), rust45
No standings:
Mara, pieguy, akrolsmir, foulcoon, bmin11, Rantai, Haneii, Lilac
Anti-Town:
Mashley
Claimed BAT:
Wojjan, Haneii, Lilac
oh wow, there were 3 new pages of posts since I last checked the thread o.o
I personally think Haneii is more suspicious than foulcoon. For whatever reason, I have a gut feeling foulcoon isn't mafia, and I already said I'm suspicious of Haneii because he's neutral on everything. For this reason, I'm not going to vote foulcoon.
inb4foulcoon is mafia
I personally think Haneii is more suspicious than foulcoon. For whatever reason, I have a gut feeling foulcoon isn't mafia, and I already said I'm suspicious of Haneii because he's neutral on everything. For this reason, I'm not going to vote foulcoon.
inb4foulcoon is mafia
not voting for foulcoon is the same as voting for him at this point
Why did he have to wait for someone to post then? I'm pretty sure he got silenced at night OR (less likely) he got silenced before he posted at all.LadySuburu wrote:
Bus driver only applies to night actions, and DxS was silenced mid-day.
Regardless of if Ival is a BAT or not, I still see you as scummy. Lying about a claim is easy.
why did who have to wait for who to post?
we don't know what order the events actually happened in
due to pm delay I would say that it's possible he was silenced before he actually posted
it's also possible for it to have a delayed effect
and also possible that he silenced himself to make himself seem town
we don't know what order the events actually happened in
due to pm delay I would say that it's possible he was silenced before he actually posted
it's also possible for it to have a delayed effect
and also possible that he silenced himself to make himself seem town
Roleclaim: Ivalset - Night Vig
that's so amazingly racist.
at least I'm not Ivalset - Fried Chicken Enthusiast
...and I won't believe it ♫foulcoon wrote:
Roleclaim: Ivalset - Night Vig
yeah I have 4 votes on me anyway and I'm pretty much guaranteed to be lynched because nobody is even here to vote.
so now is a good time to come clean as mafia and out your friends
okay my friends are Chris, rust45, and Wojjan
it was obviously a joke
I'll make you a deal
I'll vote for someone else if you agree to shoot Lilac
I'll vote for someone else if you agree to shoot Lilac
I was going to vote Lilac
who would you vote for
Pick somebody that hasn't claimed.
bmin's list:
No standings:
Mara, pieguy, akrolsmir,foulcoon, bmin11, Rantai, Haneii, Lilac
bmin's list:
No standings:
Mara, pieguy, akrolsmir,
are you sure Lilac is scum?
I'm willing to follow the deal. I was hoping for foulcoon or Lilac anyway, but who are we voting for?
that doesn't really matter, does it? I mean, you know for a fact that you aren't
most inclined to vote akrolsmir right nowRolled wrote:
Pick somebody that hasn't claimed.
bmin's list:
No standings:
Mara, pieguy, akrolsmir,foulcoon, bmin11, Rantai, Haneii, Lilac
I just don't want to make the wrong decision.Two wrote:
that doesn't really matter, does it? I mean, you know for a fact that you aren't
well your decision is get lynched or agree to shoot lilac from where I'm standing
So what you're saying is the only way for me to not get lynched is to agree to shoot someone who might be town.
If tha'ts the absolute only way, then I agree to shoot Lilac.
If tha'ts the absolute only way, then I agree to shoot Lilac.
Vote: akrolsmir
akrolsmir?
I didn't read anything from him really. Any reasons for it?
Unvote
I didn't read anything from him really. Any reasons for it?
Unvote
not really but we need another vote on him and I was really leaning towards voting for you instead
This vote doesn't really have any purpose other than saving foulcoon, since his claim sounds pretty truthful.
vote: akrolsmir
vote: akrolsmir
Oh okay
Vote: akrolsmir
I'm not sure what's the vote count is, but probably good enough
Vote: akrolsmir
I'm not sure what's the vote count is, but probably good enough
Topic Starter
Vote Count
akrolsmir (4) Two, foulcoon, Rolled, bmin
foulcoon (1) LadySuburu
Lilac (1) akrolsmir
Haneii (1) pieguy
1.5 hours remaining
akrolsmir (4) Two, foulcoon, Rolled, bmin
foulcoon (1) LadySuburu
Lilac (1) akrolsmir
Haneii (1) pieguy
1.5 hours remaining
Hey, I woke in time, and you guys all switched to the guy my gut was on first.0_o wrote:
Vote Count
akrolsmir (4) Two, foulcoon, Rolled, bmin
foulcoon (1) LadySuburu
Lilac (1) akrolsmir
Haneii (1) pieguy
1.5 hours remaining
Unvote, Vote: akrolsmir
What is this sudden train on me? We're pressed for time so I guess I should claim.
I've got three one-shots- vig, doctor and cop.
Not as good as a full one of any of these, but the cop ability should be at least useful.
I've got three one-shots- vig, doctor and cop.
Not as good as a full one of any of these, but the cop ability should be at least useful.
unvote
You guys figure it out i need to go to class.
bb~
You guys figure it out i need to go to class.
bb~
This looks like another deal now >_>....
such a retarded game
vote haneii
vote haneii
It's basically up to LS at this point.
Vote: Haneii
Also why rantai?
Vote: Haneii
Also why rantai?
Unvote and Vote: Haneii
so town will win, that's whyakrolsmir wrote:
Also why rantai?
The same reason we did to youakrolsmir wrote:
Also why rantai?
So many claims today.
Unvote
Vote: Haneii
Unvote
Vote: Haneii
Out of curiosity, can you change your hidden vote at any time LS?
Once per day. Once I've used it it's stuck there.Rolled wrote:
Out of curiosity, can you change your hidden vote at any time LS?
Otherwise it'd be much more useful and I wouldn't wait until the end of the day to use it.
To clarify, my "Hidden" vote is stealing someone's vote and putting it whereever I want once per day. Then it's stuck.
So foul's stuck voting himself.
So foul's stuck voting himself.
well I think it's pretty obvious foulcoon is mafia, just didn't think we had the voting power to lynch him so went haneii
what
well I don't think akrolsmir could make up his abilities like that, and if akrolsmir is being honest then wtf is the point of having another vigilante with less powers
there's less than a half hour left until the day ends btw
*sigh* I don't even know why we wouldn't have enough voting power. Rolled, Two, LS (two votes), and me. That's five already. I'm not too comfortable with lynching Haneii since I think she's a townie. Also, if you expect foulcoon to be mafia, the chance of Lilac being the mafia is extreamly slim because of the deal foulcoon made.
Unvote
Vote: foulcoon
Unvote
Vote: foulcoon
Honestly I'd rather leave both Foul and akrol alive and see what happens at night.
If we're not lynching Haneii, I reccomend Mara.
If we're not lynching Haneii, I reccomend Mara.
I suspect foul to be more along the lines of SK.
Maybe DxS was roleblocked due to the whole "taking someone down with me," roleblocking foulcoon instead. Foulcoon really was the only person to acknowledge animask's bus driver move n1.
ps skipped my 5:00 class
Maybe DxS was roleblocked due to the whole "taking someone down with me," roleblocking foulcoon instead. Foulcoon really was the only person to acknowledge animask's bus driver move n1.
ps skipped my 5:00 class
It would also make some sense about DxS being silenced? Mafia didn't want it to be known roleblocker existed?
I dunno.
I dunno.
well it makes me uneasy that akrolsmir left but it's also convenient for foulcoon to have claimed night vigilante since it's not easily proven true at the moment and false later on if he's serial killer
unvote, vote foulcoon
unvote, vote foulcoon
DxS kind-of implied his ability was day based and potentially related to his death. Since we likely aren't lynching him anytime soon, here's what I thought. I thought he was more of a Targeted Bomb / Vengeful Townie. Whomever he was voting for when lynched would die as well.Rolled wrote:
I suspect foul to be more along the lines of SK.
Maybe DxS was roleblocked due to the whole "taking someone down with me," roleblocking foulcoon instead. Foulcoon really was the only person to acknowledge animask's bus driver move n1.
ps skipped my 5:00 class
I'd like to give foul the chance to make the Vig Kill, there have been big games with multiple vigs that are town aligned before.
It would be obvious if foulcoon was SK or a vig with the night result. I think it won't hurt to wait then I guess.
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