A note about the timing:
Soooooo the bass drum at 00:09:224 actually starts around 00:09:200, but before any calls to dq this map, I want to say that the timing and metronome is based off of the piano. Later on, at the section starting at 00:34:767, if you set the offset based on the bass drum rather than the piano, the metronome gets screwed up.
Just so y'all know if you hear the bass drum before the rest of the music, it's not an issue with the timing it's just the song.
there's hardly any source regarding this song as it was made as a parody; possible sources idk if they are valid enough
https://archive.org/details/IBR_567 - https://vk.com/wall-448127_148580
Metadata looks correct, according to https://www.discogs.com/master/1406387-BUL%C3%81N%C3%98VA-%D0%9D%D0%95-%D0%9F%D0%9B%D0%90%D0%A7%D0%AC/, the song was released by two labels, both of which state the current metadata.
Sources: https://vk.com/breadandsaltrec (NSFW content warning)
https://archive.org/details/IBR_567 (Considering this official, as the uploader name matches the label that published the song)
Spek: https://kanonluver727.s-ul.eu/AHqWKgin
Spectro: https://kanonluver727.s-ul.eu/XL8wga02
Just for convenience sake, bg source: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ZG0O2m (taken from std set)
secondary source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQNGyBrEpH0
this band really is hard to find.
Hi. I was quite surprised that the chanson performer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsxBckAVRzY ) was listed as the author of the DBSM track, so I decided to do the excavation myself.
So, "ХЛЕБ ДА СОЛЬ REC" label is specified as a source, but it isn't. I found in "Пацанский Atmospheric Black Metal" label a release of this track, which came out a day earlier than the above source: https://vk.com/abmemes?w=wall-110113286_15191
Below the post in the comments I found out who is the author of this mix https://i.imgur.com/KntWdf9.png (User: What track is the mashup with? Group: this is the original track recorded by our admin Mark). It is Mark Bogoebov ( https://vk.com/ihatemyself.ihatemyself ). This can be determined by many indirect coincidences:
He is signed to both groups (https://i.imgur.com/ZLpOmCB.png - "
Пацанский Atmospheric Black Metal" ; https://i.imgur.com/0vjfFjM.png - "ХЛЕБ ДА СОЛЬ REC")
The author also acknowledges his authorship and for 4 years this has not been refuted. (https://i.imgur.com/4rYmM4a.png (User: With whom did they mix Bulanova? Send me a track! Mark: It isn't a mashup, I just recorded a guitar and drums on top of the track.))
So, I think it would be fair to point out Mark Bogoebov (because "BULÁNØVA" is just a joke nickname) as an artist and "Пацанский Atmospheric Black Metal" as a label source.
Of course, I do not rule out that I could be wrong somewhere. I just noticed the first problem that caught my eye so, I will wait for the decision of the nominators.
Thanks for the post - I'm not sure if I misunderstand one thing: Are you saying that ХЛЕБ ДА СОЛЬ REC is not the label it was released under or that it was released with Пацанский Atmospheric Black Metal label as well, difference being that the releases were a day apart?
Didn't know it was officially created by Mark Bogoebov either since it was released as BULÁNØVA itself as from what I can tell. However since none of the sources point out it was made by him, nor that the artist was ever named as Mark Bogoebov, it seems that it would make more sense to add Mark Bogoebov to the tags.
As much as I can see he recorded the thing. Recording something is not making the music, its just being someone who was there with the band recording their thing and mixing the track on the studio, preparing it for the release. The guy is probably just someone who is from the record label who "records" the band, that do be it
Thing is, #3296461/8894931 this is the closest to the official source that we have been able to dig up. And that does seem like an official(-ish) release of the album.
This is literally someone who claims to be a creator of the track vs. an archieve of a record label's bandcamp. Both sources are equally cursed. Have you reached out to the Mark guy? Perhaps they would've cleared this up for us. I still think that they could've re-released it under the BULANOVA name just for the memes.
Oh and since you're doing the digging now, take a spade and dig up Mark to talk to him? For real, unless you've got a direct official source pointing to the comments probably won't do much
@riffy In the near future I will try to find out from the prospective artist regarding this.
ill go with burak and riffy here, dont wanna interrupt the ranking process because of something that is deemed unnecessary from what i can tell
I'll update the discussion if Mark can respond. According to the label, they have already contacted him, and he will respond asap. https://i.imgur.com/HWy7hQl.png (Me: Can you somehow confirm the authorship of Mark and the fact that the nickname of the artist "BULANOVA" is rofl, if you have such information, of course? Label: idk how to confirm this. I'll try to write to Mark.)
Wrong Metadata
Artist: Депрессивно-Суицидальный Марк
Romanised Artist: Depressivno-Suicidal'niy Mark
Title: Не плачь
Romanised Title: Ne Plach
Metadata taken from VK
https://vk.com/wall-39786657_136633 + на 2ch'e спалили автора мэшапа
правда в оригинале по идее тайтл: Тетяна, не журись
второй пост официальный, первый - нн какой-то
да и чаще всего форсился ДСМ, но да ладно
Дело автора
https://vk.com/wall-96413467_13354
https://i.imgur.com/i6hzypi.png
https://i.imgur.com/960xwQZ.png это вышло еще раньше чем буланова вроде так что не понятно
Ну мне на все 100% кажется, что это "Депрессивно-суицидальный Марк"
Т.к. везде его нейм в данном мэшапе форсился и распространялся
Но, если вдруг это не так даже
То всё же возобновлю ветку осбуждения
Потому, что я в этом уверен на все 100%
(как меломан, да и сами ДСМ вроде много раз распространяли под своим неймом данный mashup, правда у автора страницы везде удалены, а написать, спросить - негде)
https://www.discogs.com/master/1406387-BUL%C3%81N%C3%98VA-%D0%9D%D0%95-%D0%9F%D0%9B%D0%90%D0%A7%D0%AC/ this one is the best source because band got deleted, vk one is just a reupload nothing official
there was some confusion with the metadata, modder say that the song has always been known as Депрессивно-суїцидальний Марк - Тетяна, не журись (2017), maybe this is true because as it is written it came out much earlier than BULÁNØVA - НЕ ПЛАЧЬ (2018)
https://i.imgur.com/i6hzypi.png
https://vk.com/wall-96413467_13354
https://www.lycanthropia.net/depressivno-suicidalnij-mark-chotiri-konjuha.php
There are cases in VK that some artists appropriate someone else's track
Example: DJ Spizdil - Нас не догонят
but: Tomorrow - ННД
i'm sure the metadata needs to be changed, the song is better known as "Депрессивно-суїцидальний Марк - Тетяна, не журись" then bulanova meta +it was came out earlier. hard to find something because it was deleted
this too^
http://boxalbums.com/depressive-black-metal/811300-depressivno-sucidalnijj-mark-depressivno-sucidalnijj-mark.html
https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%BE-%D1%81%D1%83%D1%97%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA/%D0%A7%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%8E%D1%85%D0%B0/809350
https://vk.com/wall-110113286_10355
Took some time to look through the data given, seems like the song was initially released under the stage name Депрессивно-суїцидальний Марк and then re-released under the BULANOVA alias. There's very little to no official data on the old release, but there're a few links (official) to the BULANOVA project.
the closest I can get to the official meta is this bandcamp release: https://web.archive.org/web/20200105164421/https://immoralbasementrecords.bandcamp.com/
Based on these the artist/title are, in fact, correct and shouls stay as:
BULÁNØVA - NE PLACH'
BULÁNØVA - НЕ ПЛАЧЬ
What you can do is add extra tags: Чотири конюха Депрессивно-суїцидальний Марк Chotyry konyukha Depressyvno-suyitsydalʹnyy Mark chetire konyuha depressivno suicidalnii четыре еонюха депрессивно суицидальный депрессивно-суицидальный ukrainian
Though this is optional since the artist does not seem to be interested in being associated with/linked to this release.
The archieve uploads seem to confirm the information provided by the nominators and match the info I've provided. So yeah, I consider this a case closed once the mapper responds regarding adding (or not adding) more tags.
Old releases from unofficial websites are probably just obsolete and haven't been updated after the re-release.
Did not expect to wake up with 29 notifications...
#3296461/8894568 - This version is not the same as the one I used, drums etc yes but not the other effects.
As for previous releases, I haven't seen that there had been other versions released under different names at all, interesting to know though. Though idk, i prefer not to add them right now considering the 2017 release under Депрессивно-суїцидальний Марк is not very known about and the song being re-released to BULÁNØVA - НЕ ПЛАЧЬ in 2018?, think its ok to keep it as it is, especially if "The artist does not seem to be interested in being associated with/linked to this release." is to be correct.
Yea it's intentional and prefer to keep it the way as it is. The current mapped ones to the piano are more intense than the following ones, which I'd like to keep emphasized
HP 6.5 feels a bit brutal for the inner oni, especially since you jump from using 5plet 1/4 at max with breaks in the oni, which has HP 6, to chained 5plet + 9plet patterns without any break at all in the inner. In stamina + stream focused maps, I feel like the HP could be a bit more lenient but given the short length of this map, having a higher HP may not be a bad idea, although you could possibly save the high HP for the topdiff, giving it a more exclusive challenge.
If you agree, consider changing the HP to 6 or 5.5. It's your call tbh, just my opinion.
um, i think you made a mistake here cuz the HP for the inner is already at 6 but the OD is 6.5
You could add "Immoral Basement IBR_567" to tags. Source: https://www.discogs.com/artist/6637425-BUL%C3%81N%C3%98VA
"Immoral Basement" = Immoral Basement Records, which along with Bread and Salt, signed this band.
"IBR_567" = the label code for NE PLACH'
modded in vc and went over:
-muzukashii doesnt have breaks, discussed over methods to place 3/2, 2/1s and 3x1/1s
-finishers on lower diffs
-patterning on onis and inners
https://bruhmomentum.s-ul.eu/PZYpUwFj
summary:
added more breaks to the muzukashii, added some finisher(s) across the set, changed sv on oni / inner diffs, edited hs volume
You could change the difficulty names to all caps to be consistent with the title and artist, would be kinda cool imo
i get it but the song has a pretty deep meaning which is why i want to keep it on lowercase :)
The following kiai starts and ends are unsnapped across all difficulties, this is due to (what I'm assuming to be) frukotool SVs used to toggle kiai, since they are offset by -3 (the default for fruko). Please resnap them so that the kiai starts on a downbeat in the music!
00:17:735 -> 00:17:738
00:26:249 -> 00:26:252
00:34:764 -> 00:34:767
"Node Buffering:
Pauses the ""map node entry"" timer
(A) Enter extra treaure/shop/event/rest nodes
(B) Buffered Card Skips
(C) Buffered Smoke Bomb Glitch
(D) Lament Save/exit unfavorable combats and events
(F) Empty Bottle/Blank Mirror Glitch
(G) Death Skip
Clicking any map node other than the first combat of an Act or a boss combat, starts a 1/4-second timer which only ticks on the map screen, and an animation which circles the map node. By closing the map screen and waiting for the circle animation to complete, the player can reopen the map and select another map node. This can be chained together to make complicated ""node ladders"".
Note: the current map node must be resolved before map nodes can be clicked/buffered (combat completed and rewards screen appears, or events completed).
Boss map nodes are entered instantly rather than being buffered. The first map node of an Act can only be buffered by pausing the game. "