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00:04:068 (6,7,1) - normally, I would say they are fine since there might be some hi-hat somewhere I am not hearing, but on what is this triple mapped? The strong hitsound on 00:04:381 (1) - suggests you should have used a different rhythm, where that circle gets the emphasis the hitsound places on it.

Same goes for 00:08:287 (2,3,4) - 00:34:068 (6,7,8) - and so on.
It might be it is consistent, but I can't really hear anything supporting those triples. Turn off the hitsounds' volume and see if you actually hear anything under those triples.

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yes you're right. delete some triples

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could u look at this again, seems some of them are still there despite u saying you'd remove some, just wanna make sure this actually got applied

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emm Is now okay?

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yup, looks good, u can resolve this

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00:07:037 (4) - try mapping those tripples with same spacing, i think this would be more enjoyable to play

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i think is normal play to Expert

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00:15:318 (1) - 这NC去了吧

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k

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00:17:818 (3,1) - i think it is very easy to confuse with 1/2 rhythm. because you previously stack a lot of 1/2 note such as 00:16:568 (1,2) - 00:16:881 (3,1) - . players maybe still think it is 1/2 stack 00:17:818 (3,1) - and miss click it. you NC here 00:16:881 (3,1) - and you also use NC pattern to show this 1/1 rhythm 00:17:818 (3,1) - , that will make players easier to miss read too.

i think delete this 00:17:193 (1) - NC or change them 00:17:818 (3,1) - to overlap will be better.

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delete nc

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00:18:287 (2,3,4) - 感觉这里手感有点奇怪,没有00:25:787 (2,3,4) - 处理的好。

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可能是体感问题?
我玩起来没感到差别

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00:22:193 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - 这种地方可以弄一下那种1/8的折返啊 性感

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这里是chloe做的,而且我觉得吧在开头也不用摆什么奇怪的东西好

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00:26:802 (7,8) - 这里可以错开弄个跟00:19:302 (7,8) - 一样的 强调一种飞流直下的感觉

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个人感觉没差,这种小地方影响不大

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00:37:037 (2,3,4) - 我的话会留一个锐角flow,大概像这样https://puu.sh/AKyeM/d47d9c8830.png 或者这样https://puu.sh/AKyeQ/42f7d50de2.png 来强调一下00:37:193 - 的音

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现在这样就很好的感觉

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00:38:131 - 00:50:474 - Over 10s of unhitsounded section, pls add some whistles in here

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use the same hs patterns as 02:08:131 - since they're the same section

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ok

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00:44:693 (1,2,3,1,2) - Weird spike here. The layout and spacing of these singletaps are significantly larger/harder compared to rest within this section and are not fitting in with the calm music here.

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试着平滑处理了下

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00:48:911 (4) - 绿4叠到绿2上如何? 感觉绿4到橙1的视觉flow有点奇怪

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感觉并不奇怪?

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00:49:849 (2,1) - 在00:49:067 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 里就这里一个小间距感觉有点莫名其妙
可以考虑稍微换一个pattern把间距弄一致一点 比如https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11248714

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稍微改了下视觉ds

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虽然不是我说的那个意思 但是也行吧

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00:58:287 (2) - 顺时针再转一点感觉更好打

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看了下,不用转也行吧

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01:00:631 - 01:06:177 - 这段一些kick音(比如01:00:787 - / 01:00:943 - 这种鼓)上面可以加一个drum sampleset不然感觉像在打空气

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02:48:443 - 02:58:597 - 一整段的1的头上都可以加一个drum sampleset,理由同上

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加了音效

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01:05:319 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1) - players can t read this stream very clearly imo. because the gap of 01:05:709 (3,1) - and 01:06:177 (3,1) - is different ds. and you used 123NC pattern also make this stream looks too random. the player needs to read the shape of the stream in advance in some way. i think 123-123 pattern can t help players to read it very weill.

i think delete NC 01:05:553 (1,1) - will be better.

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fix

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01:19:381 (1) - 这里也弄个跟01:11:881 (1) - 一样的啊 多性感

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不想再改更多chloe的部分了。。

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01:24:381 (3) - 和其他三段节奏不同啊 我难受 还是拆成俩slider吧

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后面有个急促的wub音我才这么下的,这样表现力强一点

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01:24:381 (3) - I think this should be changed but into one slider and a circle after considering your explanation toward music performance, as 01:24:537 - is strong enough to be clickable.

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01:26:412 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - i found that you always change the pattern when the music reaches this sound (from 01:11:412 - to 01:11:881 - ). idk consistency is important for you or not. but i think consistency is a very important thing. "the song is regularity why is your map not regular?" ←this is my my opinion. btw i think at least you have to make sure that the difficulty of each of your different patterns is similar. i think this pattern 01:26:412 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - is more difficult than others(refers to these three 01:18:912 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:11:412 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:33:912 (3,1,2) - ). players will hard to aim this three continuously "double" in the case of bpm is 195.

you need change this pattern to easier imo

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btw why only this place is 1/4 rhythm 01:26:724 (1,2) - , and other place all of them is 1/6 rhythm 01:11:724 (5) - 01:19:224 (5) - 01:34:224 (2) - ?

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fixed 1/6

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01:35:787 - 这个normal应该是sampleset不是addition吧

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你说得对

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01:44:224 (1,2,3,4,5) - looks so crowded https://puu.sh/AKqdM/b39c1fbaba.jpg . you can enable stacking and check it by yourself. move it and make 01:44:224 (1) - stack on 01:43:599 (1) - will look better (enable stacking).

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fixed

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01:45:474 (3,1) - Should be in definitely larger spacing

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++

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01:55:474 (2) - I would recommend this to be placed further from both 01:55:006 (1) - and 01:55:787 (3,4,5) - so that players won't abruptly stop for some times as per this 1/2 rhythm.

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改了

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02:00:474 (3) - 这拉得有点远啊跟前面01:59:849 (2,3) - 不成比例 02:00:318 (2,3) - 的间距可以调成1.8左右

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01:59:693 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这里是做了组渐进,视觉ds看起来比较好就这个间距了

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02:02:037 (3,4,5) - 这三个音感觉用滑条更适合。

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这边前后都用了滑条了,重复使用不太好,所以我用大间距note来表示了

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02:15:631 (1) - that spinner is unnecessary, you can use this section diffrently; try to map this section but with lower slider speed/spacing

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to lazy

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02:35:787 (4,1,2,1,2,1) - what's with this rhythm? Were you trying to follow the kicks in the song?
If so, delete 02:35:787 (4) - , move 02:35:943 (1,2,1,2,1) - by 1/2 earlier and add a repeat on 02:37:818 (1) -
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11351778 ?

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ok fix

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02:48:443 (1) - from this timing a few sliders get repeated with lower spacing, try rotating them slightly every new combo

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I Rotated

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02:48:443 - 这一段推荐你还是另想梗 再不济可以把每第二根红线开始的四个滑条换个花样 比如说按照前一组四个滑条轨迹原路返回摆(ctrl+g)

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这段摆梗就是石乐志,因为在变bpm

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02:48:443 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't think these copy and paste stuffs are eligible for ranking. Even if the music stays the same (relatively) for this section, it is necessary to switch patterns every 8 sliders for diversity. Too many repetitions won't reflect the music greatly but on the contrary, reducing the original variety as well as providing boring playing performances for the player.

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It's not just mindlessly copy pasted, there is some logic to how it is used to represent the calming down and building up of a section that is incredibly stale in rhythm, which is always going to be a contrast in a camellia song

Putting more variation here for the sake of variation doesn't add anything. Also taking into account that flow changes halfway through this set of patterns, and with it, the order of the pattern changes, I would then say it is a new pattern based on how it's played. If we take that into account, there is exactly 8 uses of the up down left right pattern and 8 uses of the right down left up pattern, meaning it still fits into your rules for diversity in pattern structure, even if they look visually similar.

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表达音乐

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那样爆发力不足的样子。。

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03:11:111 (2,3,4) - 03:22:082 (2,3,4) - 不跟wubwub 没劲.jpg

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你要的wub

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03:11:111 (1) - slider here should end on the 1/6 tick on 03:11:225 -

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also you should make snapping consistent on 03:22:082 (1,1) - cuz they're both the same thing, they shouldn't be snapped differently

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is overmap

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even if there aren't any specific sounds to end on, you should still be consistent with the snapping. Having 1/6 everywhere is the best way to go

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now 1/6

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03:13:511 (3,1) - https://puu.sh/AKz57/79306c419a.png
还有类似的锐角flow用这种滑条可能更合适
比如03:45:054 (3,4) -

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我感觉自己这个接法算是十分的常见了

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03:19:854 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - unlike all the other stream in this kiai, the synth here is much weaker, so having something this hard isn't really supported by the song. Possible fixes, nerfing the spacing, but u could also make 03:20:197 (1,2,3,4) - into 1/4 sliders since that's where the stream isn't supported by the song, there's no 1/4 there

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tbh i think current pattern is perfectly playable so i prefer to keep it

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03:25:339 (1,2,3,4,1,1,1,1) - These are too over-powered. the 1/16s are also not clear enough to support the pattern.

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实际上打起来不难,如果你觉得折返容易断,可以改1/16到1/8

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I still feels it needs to be fixed, the 1/16s are are also not clear enough to support the pattern. And the reverse slider makes the pattern extremely harder than normal kick sliders.

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改1/4滑条了

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03:32:025 (2,3) - 我觉得把2和3分开,从音乐和排列上可能都会更好一点。比如像这样:https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11233703

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感觉没差,不改了

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03:35:797 (3) - 唯一一个漏白线的地方,整体来说有点不和谐。

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后面也漏了,我会用音效补上的

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03:42:997 - 这normal sampleset是不是应该去了

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去了,顺便前面那个也去了

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03:58:682 (1,1,1) - I dont think it needs an NC spam here

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03:57:911 (1,2) - 我是为了和这组作区分所以下的,你觉得不nc没事的话我就不加nc了

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The AR is high enough to let the players tell these patterns apart. Also you have so many different patterns, if with this idea most of your notes need an NC.

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好的

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04:01:682 (1) - off-screen. https://puu.sh/AKtTb/59c6191b31.png just move it to the left.

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done

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04:33:568 (3,4) - 我觉得这俩不用换circle,直接第一段ctrl+h就成。我猜你想跟的是背景那个wub电音,但是我觉得这里跟鼓点用和之前同样的节奏会更一致也更爽

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不觉得,,

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04:37:339 - 结尾这一段加那么多哨子干嘛 感觉有点多余

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这个音效还是挺重要的

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加了比不加好,对此有自信

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04:59:368 (1) - can do the same mute process like 02:15:631 (1) -

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这段背景音没有变弱的感觉,不加吧

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