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hi! this is a veto for catch

  • "Beginner" being a really unnecessary diff
    you might think that's haha funny cuz you are trying to rank the lowest SR of the catch mode ever and creating history but I don't really think we actually need a diff that's even easier than pi, it's requires really really slight catcher control and that's not something a Cup player would struggle on.

  • "Cup" is a content bloat with MBomb calm diff
    although you have some different settings like AR or changing some slider shapes comparing with MBomb's "Calm" diff, it still doesn't change the fact that the Cup diff here plays quite similar with MBomb's, causing content bloat issue.

to solve this veto:
please remove both "Beginner" and "Cup" diff. although personally still not really happy about this song being ranked for a second time in catch but at least I can feel some sufficient differences between your top diff and MBomb's "Relaxing" or "Frozen in Time"

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Agree mostly but I don't think any difficulty on this set can be added that isn't content bloat. The song just doesn't allow for it. We already have a set for this song that suits what it can do.

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Sorry if I don't have full context since I don't play catch, but wouldn't the solution to this veto cause a lot of problems with RC? Catch is the only mode mapped by the host so they'll have the least number of difficulties if two are gone.

"A beatmap host must have beatmapped equal or more difficulties than any guest difficulty creator."

Maybe a solution could be formed that would avoid such a big disruption?

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ohhhh didn't look at the diff counts sorry
but we can't really do much besides of nuking the diffs since they are just solely content bloat and can't really just have some changes to avoid this.
what we can do here is just switch the host to others or ask ArthurEdikovich to map some diffs in std/mania.

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since mania all keymodes from 4-10k are taken. so if the host need to do mapping on mania they need to make a 12Keys spread

or delete all easy diffs of mania and one diff of std mapper xytoper :skull:

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I’m against any changes on mania set as a whole either deletion or replacement, mapping new 10K+ diff(s) is not even a choice, will recommend host switch if that’s the case

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Since I got THIS much backlash for just mapping an easy set with a simple tune and since I have to delete both of the gamemodes I've put my hand on I have no other way but to transfer the host

The newest host of the set is Herta, with the gamemodes of the set being only osu!mania and osu!standard

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Marked as resolved by ArthurEdikovich

Thanks Arthur for the work on this set <3

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:3

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those who know 💀💀💀

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catch

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The water is so quiet, I want to become water

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For those notice about audio quality, It's really fine because the sound is only piano that having natural quality in there. no need to boost the audio

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Always be quiet. Continue to be quiet. After all. You...are...Water

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mania

00:03:173 - 00:06:173 - remove these green line, it changes nothing

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actually, remove all green line, and change master volume with abit lower like 5% or 10% works better

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GENERAL

For mania only

00:01:173 - 00:02:173 - 00:04:173 - 00:05:173 - 00:29:173 - 00:31:173 - 00:32:173 -

I wonder why you add these inherited points if there's no any note around there? Better to delete these because it'll count as unused timing

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even these for volume, it still not affect with note usage in there

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will be removed

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removed

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Let’s go!!!!

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AR6 for salad and AR7 for top diff? the AR gap between cup and salad felt a bit too far imo

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Reverted back to how it was

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Marked as resolved by ArthurEdikovich

i am extremely depressed! i dream of the day i will finally die! i fucking hate my life there is no point in living if i can't have my fucking quiet water. i hope your life is as shitty as mine is

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Entire mania diff need to have specific keys on each diff for differentiate keys that used per diff

Example:
4K // Herta's Easy
5K // AndreyChomik's Easy
etc.

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All of the [*K]s are included in the diffnames themself, these are not automatically-put ones

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themselves* (minor spelling mistake)

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Wait, I didn't realize

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For 4K and 6K, progression from Easy diff into Normal diff is very very similar that I'd really suggest to nerf all double into single on Easy diff at this point to provide more linear progression

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[Herta's Easy] is nerfed, waiting for Carpi's reply

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applied

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i thought from 4k to 6k :joy_cat:

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we ball

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Why are the std diffs based on weight? It just seems odd to have that progression into Quiet as the top diff

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In fact, the diffnames of std set were not/are not supposed to be based on weight, we'll discuss what we can do to them with the mappers of those and give the reply as soon as possible

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Still waiting for a reply from Krfawy, broken pc😭🙏

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having diffnames based on volume would fit more

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Fair, I just don't want to make a decision immediately and want it to be discussed with everyone involved in std set, as they can suggest their own idea too

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Sorry for the late response, after some discussion we came up with other diffnames which are more connected with volume/sound; These are [Silent] -> [Tranquil] -> [Serene] -> [Placid] -> [Quiet]

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Marked as resolved by ArthurEdikovich

They still need to show some sort of progression in the naming, many of them are similar or are just a different way to say each other.
Starting with Silent/Silence is fair enough, beginning with basically the least presence of sound, but the rest up until the top diff has to show some sort of progression, even if it is minor due to the SR of them.
By having Quiet as the top diff and the naming scheme being sound also means that any other name before it must not represent a volume higher than the top diff, if not it would be a point of confusion.

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Reopened by neonat

Deafening → Loud → Audible → Quiet → Silent or the other way around should work just fine.

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Should be much more understandable for players right now

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Marked as resolved by ArthurEdikovich

wrong timing on herta mania easy and normal diffs

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Brah I was triple-checking everything, how would I miss this
Will be fixed when I'm back from uni

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fixed

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wanna mute the slidertick for standard diffs, sounds way better when you don't interrupt the fading notes with these ticking sounds.

(i think it should be fine to mute both the tick and the slide, pls doublecheck)

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also try tickrate 0,5 for the two easier diffs? @Krfawy
basically less ticks, more leniency with slider accuracy

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Removing all ticks would technically work but I refuse to do it just on my own difficulties. The fading ticks match the vibe/tune very well and it's cute as it is.

Currently, setting the tick value to 0.5 sounds wrong to me. I've tried to see how it would work right now. The only way I would agree on that would be if we had the bpm halved and then changed the ticks to 0.5 but I don't think that's wise having 4 different modes in the mapset, especially with 1/16 notes being present in the mania mode.

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Closing for now, feel free to re-open if needed

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Marked as resolved by ArthurEdikovich

It's Niagara Falls-

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☹️

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Matthewwwwww has become Chara

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Matthewwwwww is the one who gave me the idea of naming all mania topdiffs, kudosu to him

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Not sure about Regular -> Medium tbh, they seem about the same. Could do Light -> Medium or Light -> Regular, delicate to light seems more explanable imo

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Naming witchcraft in progress: I'll ask Arthur to change names to Weightless and Light instead.

Applied status: Soon™.

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Sounds good

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changed™

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Marked as resolved by ArthurEdikovich

add "fwugradiation" because it was his former/current alias (as seen on tumblr)

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Haven't really seen anyone else putting it + already have "radiation" in tags

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Reopened by smart girl

Yeah there's like 3-4 maps with this tag but no one really knows toby fox under this alias (unless you dig deep enough, literally the first time I hear this name lmao) and yesterday we got his pokemon song ranked without this one so nah ig

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And without "radiation" in tags as well

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And I'm a lazy ass as well

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Osu! 2

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hi

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Helo :D

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spoon

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We need Spoon diff

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[Light Spoon] when

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Next : Teaspoon

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She Quiet on my Water 'til I Light Salad

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this will greatly Benefit the osu!catch community and Ranked section !

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PEAK OSU CATCH

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MY MAN IS GETTING THE PEAK OF CTB GAMINH

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АРТУР ТАЩИ

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despite everything, he is still mapping
for some reason

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