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This beatmap was ranked on 4 June 2024!
nominated by Nostril and Ryxliee
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Dq to address a bunch of pending mods.

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Resolved as part of #4356894

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Marked as resolved by Nostril

Hi! This is a veto.

Since this post is co-written by both of us that’s why this is a joint veto between me and iRedi.

We believe that this map is not ready for ranked yet due to general quality issues spanning various aspects.

If someone asks what’s the point of this veto when it is already DQed, this bring to the other reason why we decided to veto the mapset. We ask you to reconsider some of the modding posts as it has become a stalemate. Continuously defending yourself from modders won’t get the map anywhere, you didn’t really address the concerns posted by various modders and they will just continuously reopen the posts. You seemed to “defend for the sake of defending” on some points that are almost unanimously agreed on by many modders. We hope to see the mod posts properly resolved.

(1) Patterning does not adequately reflect music

BlackBN’s posts:
#4355742
#4355740
#4355776
#4355757

ler1211’s posts:
#4356668
#4356674
#4356666

Hivie's post:
#4355664

davidminh0111's post:
#4355791

-Kazuha’s post:
#4355889

(2) SV does not reflect the song’s pacing in general

BlackBN's post:
#4355760

(3) Difficulty naming sense

Annabel’s post:
#4355707 made a good point on the diff name and almost everyone seemed to agree with her. We don’t really see a reason why the current diff name should be kept when there’s a clearly better option here.

(4) Quality concerns regarding the lower difficulties
The veto also extends to the other difficulties for the opened modding posts in the corresponding difficulties as well. Given how adamant you were on not applying the mods in the top difficulty, we felt the need to include this in the veto even if some of the mods are currently unaddressed.

We didn’t elaborate on the issues above as it is already included within the individual threads.

Since we agree with the posts above, we believe that the map’s quality will be severely hindered if the posts are left unaddressed without proper reasoning. We should also point out that we are currently not satisfied with the mapper’s response on many posts using reasons like “I don't hear the sound” or “I don't like it” #4355707/11592778 so if you want to convince us then try to use more comprehensive reasoning.

To lift this veto, a vast majority of the posts above should be addressed until we are satisfied with the changes.

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for clarity: every post im responsible for has been applied except for one that i couldn't bring myself to even partially agree with

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We've just checked the map. We are satisfied with the changes made on the difficulty and henceforth points (1), (2), and (3) will be lifted.

(4) just waiting for everything to resolve basically

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applied and sending over to host

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Cry's diff has been updated

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We are satisfied with the changes overall. Moly remapped his top diff a little while still addressed our concerns properly, including lower diffs. Quality-wise looks much more better than before and we think it's now good enough to be ranked. Veto lifed, good luck!

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Marked as resolved by BlackBN

*lifted
what am i typing

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you could probably add "karin fujisaki" and "miko" to tags as they've the romanization and current alias of the singer respectively

https://twitter.com/mikonyu source is the vocalist's twitter account

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mb miko is in tags. but romanization should be added for ease of searching

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Molybdenum said for me to reply here, add "volume 1" tyvm!

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j-pop jpop to tags as well since you have pop

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added all

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Marked as resolved by Molybdenum

01:52:768 : Actually I think this rhythm is 2/3, not 3/4

and of course same for 03:03:356

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on top diff and oni, I think you can keep the 1/4 pattern here since the density is high enough to be supported well by instrumentals. But I think maybe should adjust this for Muzu and lower

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im not hearing the 2/3

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ok i think 1st instance sounds more like 2/3 and second instance im kinda hearing 3/4 now.

i think the 3/4 simplfication is probably ok in both cases to keep them consistent at least

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discussed, 3/4 for both

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Marked as resolved by Molybdenum

01:55:825 : looks like 60% vol got typoed to 6% here on all diffs except top lol

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i blame cry

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Marked as resolved by Molybdenum

thanks

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in the title shouldn't the "wo" (を) be "o" instead ?_? it seems to be a particle here and it's always romanized as o.........................

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if im right ranked consistency should matter because it's wrong

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I just copied and pasted from the new mania set iirc

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i Know

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i think ill actually just use the EN title and put the romanized title with wo and o in tags to avoid a dilemma

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Marked as resolved by Molybdenum

I messed up the title :D
I'll fix when I get home

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Reopened by Molybdenum

fixed again

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Marked as resolved by Molybdenum
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