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00:00:872 (872|3,933|2,994|1,1056|0) - i cant get this out of my head but i'm like 99% sure these are way faster lol. just see the note on 00:01:056 (1056|0) - it's WAY too late compared to where the strongest sound actually lands on

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00:01:056 (1056|0) - could be 1/9

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i really can't see your concern here and seeing how the timing of one note is not agreed upon (one think it's too late, one too early) i'm consulting other ppl as well

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actually it's whatever i made my timings the same as jinjin's 7k diff

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00:14:039 (14039|3) - i thhink i can suggest smth ehre, i'm very thrown off by your take on this sound since:

  1. the note i highlighted would be better on the 1/16, 00:14:074 -
  2. the sound clearly has some sort of ''whistle'' before it hits peak, so a grace could possibly work better
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00:14:039 (14039|3) - hmm this note is accruate for me

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applied as rick said cuz it gives off a better auditory match somehow

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These two feel pretty off for me yet. I hear only one note here, which would be between the existing 00:14:004 (14004|3) and 00:14:074 (14074|2). Maybe the two preceding notes of the leitmotiv (see 00:15:764 (15764|2,15889|1)) exist somewhere in this phrase but I do not hear them and it would be two extra notes, not one

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i'll take a wild guess and place notes at 00:13:943 (2nd note of leitmotif) and 00:14:050 (as you said, which i think should be correct..? man tthis stuff is vague haha)

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00:14:963 (14963|1) - vs. 00:17:006 (17006|1) - why's the 1st note on the 1/16? i'm pretty sure it should be 1/2 just like 00:17:006 -

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1/2

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00:14:963 (14963|1) - is accurate for me

19029,1025.9391618077,4,2,1,30,1,0
19029,-38.4615384615385,4,2,1,30,0,0
add two lines above at 00:19:029 and put move the LN to 00:19:029

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moved things accordingly

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00:18:157 (18157|3,18289|0) - pretty unnecessary and you can ignore this suggestion, but hah it'd be a nice detail to emphasize the different musical rhythm here, it sounds like swing to me if you lsiten closely

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HOW do you catch this

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yea

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00:23:221 00:26:874 intentionally ignored the note?

00:26:762 (26762|2) - i think im sure this should be double imo

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first two are intentional cuz the notes are so unclear i'd rather use a reverse shield instead (cuz releasing has a weak impact which fits with the small-sounding notes)

the 3rd, i made it a double!

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00:26:930 (26930|2,26987|3) - Missing one note here, it's F# -> F -> D#. It would be around 00:26:902 and 00:26:930 (26930|2) could be adjusted to snap on the 1/12, perhaps?

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If it helps to hear it, it's the same phrasing as in 00:28:249 (28249|3,28308|2,28366|1)

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i trust music theory

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00:27:212 (27212|0,27212|1,27440|2,27440|0,27669|1,27669|2,27900|3,27900|0) - i feel this could be expressed more clearly as the pitch variation is going up here:

same for 00:28:600 (28600|3,28600|0,28830|3,28830|1,29062|0,29062|1) - :

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true

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00:38:431 (38431|3,38525|3) - personally i feel it should be consistent with 00:40:140 (40140|0,40199|1) - . I'm not saying which one is absolutely correct and both of them makes sense. Just make their pattern jacky or not jacky

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it was gonna be a 1/8 grace since 1/8 minijack is insanely uncomfortable, but after relistening it's actually 3/16 and it should be fine as a minijack then

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00:51:469 (51469|1,51503|2) - i feel the LN 00:51:469 (51469|1) - could be shortened by 1/12 as it would be expressed being weak and lower in musik as well compared to 00:51:073 (51073|2) - . just like you did 00:52:742 (52742|2,52777|0,53165|2,53193|1) - 00:49:494 (49494|2,49494|3,49850|1,49902|0) - the strength variation

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agreeable

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01:01:698 i think you missed a sound here. and it could have some relations to 01:00:911 (60911|0,61009|0,61305|1,61403|1) - which are same in musik:

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correct

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01:07:290 (67290|0) - Not sure if note is meant to be part of a sort of quad with 01:07:339 (67339|3,67339|2,67339|1), but the strings and piano have a note at around 01:07:240 which is either unsnapped with this note or missing altogether

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supposed to represent the kick at around there - i got the timing slightly wrong tho, it's at 01:07:283. i'll change it to a rice note and convert the whole triple right after to full LNs!

i don't think i'll represent that 01:07:240 piano however - it's barely audible if at all, at least for me on 100% playback

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01:11:820 - Probably missing a note, perhaps graced, to match 01:10:136 (70136|3) -

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not sure how i missed this

applies to 7k note

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also 7k: check 01:11:362 -

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agreeable

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true

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01:30:510 - stacked note sadfaisuhdhfdasf

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FUCK!!!

offset disalignment is fucky

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fixed btw

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02:14:569 (134569|2,134569|0) - this is worthy to be triple imo. Its nearly same strength as 02:13:637 (133637|0,133637|2,133637|3) - and also distinguish from 02:15:527 (135527|2,135527|3) - 02:16:480 (136480|0,136480|1) - where the strength is lower.

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yea

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02:16:294 (136294|1,136356|2,136418|3) - Why does this suddenly turn into a 1/8esque rhythm? Shouldn't we maintain the 1/6 rhythm? The end of the LN can be adjusted accordingly

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Same stuff at other places like 02:27:473 (147473|1,147530|0,147587|1,147644|3,147701|2,147758|1), where the 1/6 rhythm is still very hearable

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my trust for the 7k diff has failed me

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ok a lot of the 7k timings are legit fucked up so i'm resnapping everything now - this will serve as a log

wip

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02:16:480 (136480|1,136480|0,141284|1,141433|3,141582|2,141732|1,141879|0,142026|3,142174|2,142317|1,142460|3) - i have an idea for this part. we could make this simple jumpstream more vivid. The strength and the pitch is going up here so we could change the LN length for it:

2/12 --> 3/12 --> 4/12

If you agree, then avoid unnecessary sheild and apply for 02:25:053 02:36:544 as well

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kinda true

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02:28:677 (148677|1) - this is worthy double imo. it has certain strength as 02:30:602 (150602|2,150602|3) - and it's very obvious in the musik

same for 02:31:588 (151588|2) -

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ye

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02:41:344 (161344|2,161344|3) - The double should be theoretically at 02:41:544 (161544|2). If you prefer to keep it hear just for sound intensity that's valid too

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yea i'm double'ing it for sound intensity, i actually didn't hear a chord there until u pointed this out LOL

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02:49:474 (169474|2,169590|1,169590|0) - There is definitely a note missing between these two in the trill; if this is not intentional for introducing a break, you may need to rearrange stuff to include it

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yes

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02:57:167 (177167|2,177248|1) - These two are certainly too early, it's more in a gallopy rhythm at around 02:57:225 + 02:57:272 (aprox)

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7k

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02:59:198 (179198|1,179325|2,179376|1) - This part of the trill is missing a note

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7k

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03:09:532 (189532|3,189532|0,189625|3,189625|0) - more stronger than 03:09:345 (189345|2,189345|1,189438|1,189438|2) - imo. You could make them triple for emphasising also have a structure of single --> double --> triple with 03:09:158 (189158|0,189252|0,189345|1,189345|2,189438|1,189438|2) -

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nah i'll just do smth else

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also triple is way too much imo, and the change isn't too much so i won't do single double triple, it's really heavy

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03:16:623 (196623|2) - Feels like it snaps much cleanly on the 1/2

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fair

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03:22:778 (202778|0,202778|3,202778|2) - you could have similar pattern to 03:21:988 (201988|0,201988|3,202021|2,202054|1) - imo. They're all same in the music
do something like this?

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i think the latter has the instruments more obscured by the percussions, while the former has it much clearer, so this difference is warranted

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03:24:041 (204041|3) - This snaps much better on the following 1/3; see 03:25:672 (205672|3) for reference

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03:28:040 (208040|1) - i personally think this grace should be at 03:28:073 (1/12 line) where it truly bursts.
Also for 03:28:303 (208303|0) - you could make it 1/12 earlier as well although i know there's a sound at current timeline but its not that obvious. do this could express 2 stuff the same time imo:

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should be good now

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03:32:509 (212509|3,212575|1) - This should be technically be a 1/8 stream rather than 1/6, do we have room to include without making a terrible burst?

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03:45:919 (225919|3) - If this is LN, then 03:45:523 (225523|0) should too

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04:16:294 (256294|2) - should be 1/16 later at 04:16:320 imo . Also its strong so how about:
!{](https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/19124874/ae7a) make it double as well

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correct

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04:22:770 (262770|3,262770|0) - I have the feeling that gracing this for the earlier note on the right hand of the piano would be adequate

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04:25:044 (265044|0,265044|2) - This feels early, I think it snaps well on the 1/8

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04:27:537 (267537|1,267606|2) - Can't hear two here, a single note on the 1/16 inbetween both should be enough

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04:40:009 (280009|2,280009|1) - should be triple imo. current one doesnt express its strength very properly. It should be distinguished from 04:37:010 (277010|0,277010|1,277540|0,277540|1) - also be consistent with 04:39:208 (279208|0,279243|3,279243|1,279582|1,279614|2,279614|3) -

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did

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04:44:641 (284641|0,284641|3,285070|2,285070|1) - I feel these fit much better as single LNs to create contrast with the more intense 04:44:841 (284841|1,284841|0,285242|3,285300|0) -

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04:46:177 (286177|0) - move this to col3? as 04:44:841 (284841|0,285300|0) - pitches all same so just to distinguish from them?

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it's a nice detail but how i pictured this is:

  • first note has higher pitch -> use two-handed double spanning col 1+4 to make it look wide
  • 2nd note is lower -> use one-handed double at col 1+2 to limit it on a lower range
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05:00:261 (300261|1,300426|2) - Missing a note of the leitmotiv between these two

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05:05:166 - Missing a piano note here; faint, but feels necessary to make the pattern complete

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05:05:956 (305956|0) - Wouldnt include this if you dont map 05:05:561 and 05:05:759

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05:12:791 (312791|2,312791|1) - These seem to snap fine on the 1/2

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05:15:722 (315722|0) - This should have the double rather than 05:15:651 (315651|1,315651|2) -

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