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its fine but why do 00:15:232 (15232|3,15232|2,15232|0,15287|1,15343|3,15343|2) - , 00:17:009 (17009|3,17009|0,17065|1,17121|3,17121|2) - , etc flow in the same direction whilst the ones in the previews section dont?

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preview section? what are you talking about

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previews as in, before it lol

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it's a left right left right pattern so it's not inconsistent

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my bad

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Marked as resolved by kilotek

00:18:009 (18009|1,18009|2) - you already have a jump for a louder sound, you will either have to put 1 instead of these jumps (subsequent ones on this sound) or make hands from these jumps (00:17:898 (17898|1,17898|0) - )

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fixed

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

00:28:732 (28732|0,28954|1,29176|0,29398|1) - those transition are kinda weird for this long trill at this bpm imo

suggest to either fill the first 3 notes 00:28:732 (28732|0,28954|1,29176|0) - and just transform it into a spamm trill or maybe rearrange with something like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1108507087245422643/1112398181368598589/image.png

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your picture suggestion was what i had originally but felt too bland, so i went with what i had now, it being a fresher idea that also has a stronger emphasis on the kickspam

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

this sound starts in the blue lane 00:31:343 (31343|3) -

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also why is this 1/5? 00:33:093 (33093|1) - this and the other notes in this section all seem to be in normal snappings so i'm not really sure why you used other uncommon snappings

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standardized them all to 1/4 on blue line

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

00:44:230 (44230|1,44230|0,44285|3,44341|0,44341|1,44396|2,44452|3,44452|1,44452|0) - I get it's a rising difficulty map but this is too intense compared to 00:27:563 - which is far more impactful.

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isn't that the point of a progrssive difficulty

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

The sounds are too light to be emphasized as you did with much more impactful melodies

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Reopened by [GB]Rick

And the more impactful kickspams have been mapped all the same way, but that mentioned kickspam is particularly subtle, if you don't want to change it it's fine

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

00:47:343, 00:50:898 - The vocal vibration is pretty significant in these two places (at their highest for this segment), I think it'd be fitting to include a note for these to emphasize that, and instead remove the notes at 00:45:565 and 00:49:121 as the vocal vibration there is not as significant if you compare.

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I can see what you mean, but I think it's fine without the emphasize notes.
Still, I'll remove the notes mentioned above to keep it consistent.

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Marked as resolved by Claren

00:51:898 (51898|1) - Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't hear any sound warranting this note. It's the only diff with this note as well so not sure if intentional.

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There's actually a tick sound here, but it definitely cannot be heard at normal speed, so I'll remove it

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Marked as resolved by Claren

00:52:232 - 00:52:454 - suggest to start from here to use doubles for the vocal, this is already the new section of the song

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yeah sure

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

oh shit i forgot this isn't my part lmao

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Reopened by riunosk

damnit rhino haha
will take the suggestion

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Marked as resolved by Claren

00:53:565 (53565|1,53676|1) - double i think for vocal in col1 and col2

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Okie dokie, will make them double and rearrange pattern

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Marked as resolved by Claren

00:54:232 (54232|1,54343|0) - Maybe stack these? They kinda sound like two vocals tbh

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It doesn't sound like there's 2 vocals there imo

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Marked as resolved by Claren

00:54:565 (54565|0,54565|2) - May just be me but the way this plays out with the chordjacks above it was a little awkward, since each iteration of this uses doubles that are similar to each other in a way (like how 00:52:121 (52121|1,52121|2,52232|0,52232|1,52343|3,52343|2) have notes next to each other), and here it starts with a split double then transitions to the notes after which was a little off-putting (also there's a lot of focus on col 1 before this). How about moving 00:54:565 (54565|0) to col 4?

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Sure thing, moved note to col 4

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Marked as resolved by Claren

maybe remove this jump as the vocal sound here isnt loud enough to warrant it 00:56:454

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the vocal itself is enough for a double

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

00:59:676 - only triplet? It doesnt hurt adding another note here

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it is to be consistent with the rest like 01:01:454 (61454|2,61454|3,61454|1) -

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

my dumbass forgot this isn't also my part

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Reopened by riunosk

i'll keep it as a triple, since 00:57:898 starts off with a triple

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Marked as resolved by Claren

theyre far different lmao, first section is weaker so there are fairly light jumpstreams, while the other kickspam (which is far more intense) is represented like that, it's consistent

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I structured the jumpstreams that way to distinguish the increasing intensity, while also not being too demanding yet.

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Marked as resolved by Claren

01:02:343 - from this point the 1/4 rolls are way more noticeable compared to the earlier section , how about rearrange it with how you did here ? 00:28:565 -

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00:28:565 is not my part
but i'll rearrange it so the rolly part is (hopefully) not so noticeable

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Marked as resolved by Claren

01:02:343 maybe could be denser as the snares become more noticeable? that jumpstream is somewhat trily but i think it could be denser akin to the other "incomplete" jumptrills used throughout the map

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i'm intentionally avoiding full jumptrills and going for half jumptrills instead

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

it seems intense enough to warrant it alike the rest of the kickspams in the chart, thus its right before the main kiai
its fine though, as perhaps its done that way to make ti stand out as different

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Hm, good point, I'll change it

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Marked as resolved by Claren

01:30:343 (90343|2,90343|3,90565|1,90565|0) - Why are these doubles on essentially no sound.. turn them into singles pls

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they're meant for the vocals, they're simplified to the current snapping

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:30:565 (90565|1,90565|0,90676|0,90676|1,90787|0,90843|1,90898|0,90954|1) - The way this transitions to the kiai is a little awkward due to the already biased focus on the left hand from the vocal buildup, which makes the start of the kiai a little rough. How about just mirroring the doubles (or Ctrl + H) to have it play more smoothly?

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i think i'll sacrifice a bit of comfort for pitch accuracy here instead

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:31:343 (91343|3,91343|2,91454|1,91454|2) - ?

01:31:121 (91121|1,91121|0,91232|0,91232|1) - since you followed those sounds the next one is at the blue line 01:31:398 - suggest to delete the other 2 chords and add this double on the blu line

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these are for the vocal

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

i feel like this stream (and anchor) is awkward to hit compared to how the rest of the kiai flows 01:32:121 (92121|1,92121|0,92176|2,92232|0,92232|3,92287|1,92343|2,92343|0,92343|3,92398|1,92454|0,92454|3,92509|2,92565|0,92565|1) - , maybe you can represent it differently or make the stream less anchory?

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ok sure

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:34:676 (94676|1,94676|0) - Vocal sounds really too subtle to have a double here, would turn into a single as it's barely noticeable on 100% speed while playing.

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ehh i feel like it's quite noticeable, even if it's soft

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:35:121 - 01:36:009 -> The streams here focus a lot on the left hand suddenly, which is really uncomfortable to play along with the triples at this speed, especially as it's a little repetitive considering the vocal changes at this moment as well.

How about rearranging it a little to something like this?

  • This would also create a nice transition for the alternating handstreams for the 1/1 vocals.
  • Apply to 02:17:787 as well
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rearranged a bit, should be a little less straining now

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:35:676 - is missing a note (because of the vocal)

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there is no vocal there

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:36:121 - Why is there a 3-note anchor here but not at 01:43:232 - ?

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i wouldn't consider 3 notes as an anchor, but there's no specific reason other than handstream naturally giving a lot of these instances

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:37:565 (97565|1,97676|1,97787|1,97898|1,98009|1) - I think the anchor in this specific pattern plays out pretty uncomfortably, mainly due to the fact the left hand gets quite a bit of attention right after with the handstreams so this strain makes it really awkward to transition into that. How about moving 01:37:898 (97898|1) to col 4 to better emphasize the transition to the next verse and play more smoothly with the handstreams?

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sure

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:38:121 - is missing a note, like how u mapped at 01:52:343 -

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o shit yea

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:38:121 (98121|2,98121|3), 01:52:343 (112343|1,112343|0) -> I read #3862591, but what are the doubles meant for anyways? I can't hear a vocal or a kick playing here at all, even when slowed down.

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it's a little hard to notice, but there is a "su" vocal here based on the original song
it's mostly masked due to how fast the song was sped up

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:38:343 (98343|3,98343|2,98398|1,98454|0,98454|3,98509|2,98565|3,98565|0,98565|1,98621|2,98676|1,98676|0,98732|2,98787|0,98787|3,98787|1) - it will be more pleasant to play if you leave only the jacks ( they are very dominant at this moment )

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they're intentionally represented by increased density

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

same here, it adds a lot of weight to the left hand 01:45:454 (105454|0,105565|0,105676|0,105787|0,105898|0,106009|0,106121|0) -

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1:38 - fixed
1:45 - generally unavoidable

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:40:009 - should have one more note, like how u mapped at 01:32:898 -

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right

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:41:787 - double note , consistensy with 01:34:676 -

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fixed

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:42:787 - is missing a note too because of the vocals

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no vocal there

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:43:787 (103787|3) - A double for this vocal wouldn't hurt as you've usually used doubles for similar instances too.

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there is no vocal there, only on the triples

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:45:621 (105621|3) - i think after this loong stream i highly suggest to remove this note so it can emphatyze a lot better with the triple kick rolls

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pretty sure it's emphasized enough as it is

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:47:121 - is missing a note

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yea

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:47:454 jump?

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i think its ignored purposefully to follow the stronger vocals and not give emphasis to the rest

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yea the vocals are stronger there

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:49:898 - is missing a note

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no vocal

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:54:232 - is missing a note too (like at #3862578 and #3862585 )

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i keep missing them dammit

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:56:898 (116898|3,116898|2) - Unintentional double? There's no vocal there, you haven't followed the background synth either so I do think it's unreasonable.

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there's a very soft vocal but it's like on a 1/8 snap, maybe 01:56:926 -
i've simplified it to what it is now instead

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:56:898 - need remove this double or make this 01:53:343 - too

p.s Also, to be honest, this voice is more suited to the blue line, like this 01:56:954 - and 01:53:398 -

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made 1:53 double

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:57:009 - is missing a note (same vocals like at #3862588 and #3862584 )

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no vocal

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

I am 90% sure there is a vocal in there, it's just pretty weak

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Reopened by Skibidi Toilet

i am only following the stronger vocal

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

01:59:843 (119843|0) - same suggestion as before

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refer to said post

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:01:343 - is missing a note. but tbh this problem is getting repeated over and over again, so i am starting to think that the note at 01:32:898 - was a mistake, but my opinion is that it looks better if u'll just add these notes, it looks cooler. your choice.

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if u'll add a note to them then 02:08:454 - , 02:15:565 - and 02:22:676 - are missing a note too

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fixed all

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:01:565 (121565|3,121676|3,121787|3,121898|3,122009|3) - Unsure if intentional but the handstreams don't usually have anchors lasting this long throughout this segment, so this in particular causes some uncomfortable and unnatural strain on the right hand which can really mess up the flow of this segment. I think just moving 02:01:676 (121676|3) to col 1 would make this play out better.

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yeah easy fix

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:04:121 - is missing a note

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since u missed or decided not to map this sound in all of the places (even tho u mapped even weaker vocals in the map) then i'll just list the rest of them in here. 02:11:232 - , 02:18:343 - and 02:25:454 - .

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those stronger vocals have more priority

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:05:785 (125785|0,125785|1,125841|2,125896|0,125896|3,125952|1,126007|0,126007|2,126007|3,126063|1,126119|0,126119|3,126174|2,126230|0,126230|1,126230|3) - Why has this instance in particular those stacks on col 1 and 4? It's inconsistent based on your usual patterning for sections like that.

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u right, fixed

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:14:065 (134065|0) - same here too

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refer to said post

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:25:343 - is missing a note (like how u mapped at 01:35:565 - , 01:42:676 - , 01:49:787 - etc.)

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fixed

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:29:621 -
02:29:843 -
02:30:065 -

at this point since the adrenaline is already at max level i suggest to full those with doubles for a good trill spamm

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no

00:28:565 - it's to be consistent with this

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:30:454 (150454|1,150454|0) - The kickspam is still pretty subtle during the gradual rise here, so I think it'd be more fitting to leave this as a single, since it doesn't noticeably pick up until around 02:30:565

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ok sure

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:31:232 (151232|1,151287|2) - Would remove these, no evident build-up sounds.

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ok sure

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

this could be solved by representing the jumptrill like this 02:53:454 (173454|3,173454|1,173454|0,173509|2,173565|0,173621|1,173676|0,173676|2,173676|3) - instead of an actual jumptrill like the timestamps mentioned at https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1627253/discussion/3322182/timeline which would in place also make it contrast more

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woops, wrong link, uhh basically the timestamps in the post i was responding to

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i don't understand, can you re-write/fix this post?

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in a nutshell the transitions from handstream or jumptrill to the next sections tend to merge with eachother and there is no way to differentiate them gameplay wise, aswell as giving place to a lot of uncomfy anchors what seem out of place or are just a mistake
you can look at the image links i suggested so you can make changes to the timestamps i mentioned
is this better?

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for 2:32, 02:31:343 (151343|1,151398|2,151454|1,151454|0,151509|2,151565|3,151565|0,151621|1,151676|3,151676|2,151732|0,151787|2,151787|1,151843|3,151898|1,151898|0,151954|3,151954|2,152009|1,152009|0,152065|2) - is meant to be a progressive difficulty buildup, so the bias on the left hand is basically unavoidable

also you used the same timestamp twice

imo your suggestion of
(this could be solved by representing the jumptrill like this -timestamp-)
is far too underwhelming, would rather not do that

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why is it unavoidable? its unreasonably long and generally uncomfy to play
also lol i didnt notice

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or you can make it shift to the other hand since the jumptrill before it is also on the left

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by unavoidable i meant the anchor, the buildup is well done

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eh, easy fix then

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the anchor is unavoidable regardless of where 02:32:454 (152454|0) - goes

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you're right

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if nothing else, will resolve

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

what about the other timestamps i mentioned thought
i'm giving it a look and in general they tend to strain the left hand more
try balancing them out, and to give space for a hand at 02:39:232 you can maybe make 02:39:232 (159232|1,159232|0,159287|3,159287|2,159343|1,159343|0,159398|3,159454|2,159454|0,159454|1) - singles only. and this hand specifically 02:39:454 (159454|1,159454|2,159454|0) - could be a jump to give space for the louder one at 02:39:232 , and so on for the timestamps i mentioned at the beginning of the post

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Reopened by kilotek

making them singles basically just completely ignores my idea of 02:33:898 (153898|1,153898|0,153954|3,153954|2,154009|0,154009|1) - being doubles for the triple synth
so absolutely not

i've already tried to reduce the strain as much as i can on all lanes already

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:32:121 - imo i would focus the triples of the crash instead of the 02:32:121 (152121|1,152121|0,152176|3,152176|2,152232|0,152232|1) - pattern you made for this sound, since the crash is way more impactful compared to the sound you mapped with those three double

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somewhat minor detail
having 3 doubles or 1 triple for crash here is both fine, but i prefer triple doubles as it transitions nicely into the next section

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:32:176 (152176|3,152176|2,152232|1,152232|0,152287|2,152343|0,152343|3,152343|1) - i know there's a snare and a few kicks here but it makes it feel like the trill at the end of the kiai merges with the next section and i feel like it would make it contrast more if the kicks here weren't , welp, kicks, and instead 02:32:121 (152121|1,152121|0) - could be a hand

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sure

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:33:565 - 02:34:676, 02:42:454 - 02:43:565 -> The streams here get concerningly biased onto the right hand, which plays out pretty awkwardly when considering everything around it. How about moving 02:34:121 (154121|2) and 02:43:009 (163009|3) to col 1

02:47:787 - 02:49:676 -> Similar issue on the left hand here, which happens for two whole seconds. Move 02:48:343 (168343|1) to col 4?

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yep, easy fix, some slight readjustments though

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:38:232 (158232|0,158232|1,158287|2,158287|3,158343|1,158343|0) - These kinda get lost in the kickspam, mayb transition like this?

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a different kind of fix was done, to be consistent with 02:31:121 (151121|3,151121|1,151121|0,151176|2,151232|1,151232|0) - throughout

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

ok

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remade pattern a bit, but anchory doubles are intended for repeating kicks

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:39:232 - same suggestion as before

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refer to said post

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:51:732 (171732|1,171732|0,171787|2,171787|3) - pridlogayu remove the three, they do not go by sound, well, put 1 instead of them

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02:52:565 - is missing one note

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fixed

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

02:54:621 (174621|0) - ghost nota?

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the 1/4 synth

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Marked as resolved by riunosk

03:00:898 - 03:01:232 - 03:01:565 - 03:01:898 - 03:02:232 - 03:02:565 - this is not very important, but I think it would be nice to put notes here to symbolize the echo

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ehh nah i don't think that's what i wanna do

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Marked as resolved by riunosk
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