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00:01:050 to 00:11:383 You seem to be mapping the vocal in this first section, as I can notice with 00:02:549 (2549|2,2883|2) -, but Amiichii is also mapping the vocals in his diff, with LNs even near the end. So to make the difference with his diff, you could map all the vocal with LNs.

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00:02:383, 00:03:716, 00:05:049, etc. You could make them double since there's the synth sound on these.

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02:11:716 Same here, mapping the vocals could be a good idea.

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ok solved

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00:01:050 - 00:01:383 - 00:01:716 - add LN
00:22:383 - At this difficulty, I think you should give more variation on LN, not just hold it.
01:11:549 - add 1/8 trill?

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  • the LN on intro, I can't find a better LN representation than this
  • I use SV to emphasize the feels, dunno if I can add note there
  • like I said above, the SV limits me to add some notes
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00:01:050 - i feel like all the vocal here could be LN-ed. Like, what was even the reason it specifically only limited to - 00:02:383 (2383|3,2549|0,2716|1,2883|2) -

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oki

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Marks my free NM here, will continue whenever I'm free!
00:06:383 Feel like doesn't hurt to add a 1/1 LN here, it has a pretty apparent chord sound, plus the vocal at this strong beat is uh.. pretty strong. You can also maintain a 2/1 gap between each LN section that you developed previously.

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ok added

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00:11:383 would prefer if you make this chord open just like what you did at 02:22:049 , I think the spacing would be more intuitive this way, and could avoid a jacking motion at 00:11:216 (11216|2,11216|1) - which doesn't exist in later section.

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ok rearranged

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00:11:383 (11383|2) - this doesnt held significance compared to the rest of 1/8 stream. Would delete.

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00:11:716 to 00:19:716 I think this section could use a little buff, since right now, it's basically the same as Amii's Insane. You could, for example, add triples on the clap sounds 00:12:383, 00:13:716, etc. and you could make trill. Somehitng like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14986243/aff8 or anything similar.

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ok for triplets but I wont use thrill

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00:17:216 (17216|0,17299|1,17383|0,17466|1,17549|0,17883|3,17966|2,18049|3,18133|2,18216|3) - trills are :sob: but especially because none of the sounds warrant something to trill for. I’d recommend to rearrange

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oki, I do that for a symmetrical pattern but you have a point

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00:19:716 - this double like before

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no, it's for 1/8 handstream purpose

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00:21:049 Instead of 2-2-3-2-3 chord here, I think you can do 2-3-2-3-2 chord here since you expressed clap sound with triple before, I think they are more prominent and should keep consistent. eg: https://pasteboard.co/KgV14je.png

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considering this rn, thanks for pointing out

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ok solved

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00:21:049 - till 00:21:716 - ,

totally wrong double triple usage here.

The right one based on the sound should be 3-2-3-2-3 or 2-2-3-2-3 not 2-3-2-3-2

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same issue as this #2557330

first, I don't want to put 3 notes at the end of the 1/8 stream, and using 2-2-3-2-3 means I should 3 this 00:21:883 to keep the consistency that make it looks overmapped on this section before, so my decision is 2-3-2-3-2

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eh i think both solution works for me. it seems to be more to favor either layering relevancy (rip's) or aesthetical consistencies (ilham's).

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resolved for 2-3-2-3-2

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00:21:383 and 00:21:716 They should be the triples instead of 00:21:216 and 00:21:549, since that drum sound is much stronger. And since you did it there 00:21:883.

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yup, nice notice

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00:21:883 (21883|3) - despite personally having no issue playing this, I highly recommend you to delete this cuz the drum sound at 00:21:883 and 00:21:966 are the same and I dont think either of them can be afford to be a triple. Besides this trill-minijack at 1/4 is pretty tricky for this SR I'd say. Therefore highly suggesting you to reduce it to double

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same as above

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solved

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00:22:383 If you put SVs there, you should also put them here too 02:33:049

Same for all the other SVs

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Also, it's not an issue, but wouldn't mapping the vocals here be more interesting than just the synth with SVs?

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But also, if you wanna keep those SVs, you should add some more in the rest of the map, especially in parts like this one 01:05:049

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whooh, I'm so sorry for unfinished SV, it just a prototype tho, gonna finish it asap

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00:22:716 (22716|2,22883|1,23049|0,23216|3,23383|2) - Since you decided to follow these little tick sound in the background I would suggest you to follow the PR more concisely. Simply ctrl+G 00:23:049 (23049|0,23216|3) - these would work. Do similar thing with 00:25:549 (25549|0,25716|3) - as well, ctrl+G

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ok, rearrange lil bit

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00:24:049 (24049|3) - I get why you did this, but imo, one LN isn't enough for the synth there, since it's just after 00:23:549 (23549|3,23549|1) - which has the same intensity. Same with the other LNs like this.

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Tho if you agreed to map the vocals here,this might change so.

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ok solved

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00:25:466 Imo, you should map those little tick sounds, again to make it different from the other diffs.

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those little tick have 1/8 sound that's unworth to cover as the loud 1/8 ones, so I decide to ignore that thick and cover the main melody instead

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00:26:216 (26216|2) - feels visually better if you move this to column 1, the two LNs at 00:26:216 (26216|1,26216|3) - makes this note feels kinda tight and uncomfy, plus I think it would create a better jack motion with 00:26:049 (26049|1,26049|0) -

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I think I will keep this sorry, works fine in my opinion

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00:27:049 (27049|0) - why single? Feels like it has similar sound and strength with 00:27:133 (27133|3,27133|2) -

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ok, my bad

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00:30:049 (30049|1,30091|0) - why change the direction here out of the blue? The strength here doesn't really change much and it's the same type of hi-hats through out this section, making it something similar to 00:24:716 (24716|3,24758|2,24799|1,24841|0) - would be the safest bet to avoid confusion and inconsistency.

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rearranged

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00:30:383 (30383|2) - why put it at column 3 but not column 4? You can do what you did previously and I think it would plays out better, a jack at index finger feels kinda out of the place and unreasonable

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rearranged as the change above

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rslvd

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00:30:716 the hi-hat spam here compared to the tom roll at 00:32:549 seems kinda mixed up, I'd reduce the density and give more jack motion to highlight the hi-hat instead of making them the same expression, it can avoid too much repetition and could create contrast with different instrument. eg: https://pasteboard.co/KgV9uVa.png

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I think it's fine to use double jack

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00:31:466 (31466|1,31466|2) - ,

not recommend to use double here, the sound doesn't support it since there's only scratch sound available not like 00:31:383 - which has scratch and W

would recommend https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18130772/7cbf

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ok

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00:32:966 (32966|0) - i think this should be deleted. Notice how the tom descended in pitch.

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deleted

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00:33:883 (33883|1,33883|2) - Feels a bit overwhelming for this to be a double, it doesn't have a repeating tom sound like 00:33:216 (33216|3,33216|2,33299|1) - , 00:33:549 (33549|1,33549|0,33633|2) - and 00:34:216 (34216|2,34216|3,34299|1) - . I'd say a single would be sufficient since it only has a rather vague hi-hat sound and it's connected with a stream with 00:34:133 (34133|0) - this note. Reducing it could balance the density a bit

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ah yee, rearranged right there

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00:36:049 (36049|0,36216|0,36383|0,36549|0,36716|0,36883|0,37049|0,37216|0,37383|0) - You should move around some notes to avoid this long-ass anchor. Not really a big issue, it's just that you have enough room for your notes, so might as well avoid unnecessarly long anchors

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yeah I've notice on my self mod, thanks for mentioning tho

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00:43:716 - to 00:44:008 - [SV] the 0.10x would make the LN end cover the SN after it (the shield pattern), I suggest using a slightly faster SV to replace 0.10x and lower 1.75x a bit

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ok

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01:05:049 nothing much to say about this section, maybe just be a little more consistent with the triples. From here 01:05:383 and when possible, triples should be at every two beats, so 01:06:049, 01:06:716, etc. and not 01:06:216, 01:07:216, etc. Up to 01:14:049.

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02:04:049 Same here.

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ok, I've fix the consistency

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01:05:549 (65549|3,65633|2) - You could switch their columns, since the pitch is different than 01:05:216 (65216|3,65299|2) - .

Same with 01:08:216 (68216|0,68299|1) -

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nice suggestion

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01:07:383 (67383|3) - similar reason with - 00:11:383

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gonna keep this, since unlike 00:11:383 that part have a different LN sound beside the 1/8 snare

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ressolve

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01:15:716 to 01:26:383 I know this is kind of the break, but it feels a little too empty, tbh. Especially since Amiichii has more stuff going on in his diff. So that I think that you add a bit more notes, maybe LNs or even regular notes.

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Same for that section 01:26:383 - 01:37:049. Apart from the notes placed in different columns and the 1/8 notes at the end, there's no difference. I'd suggest to not just map the kick and snare there.

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ok, i'll try to follow the tick

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01:15:716 - to 01:26:341 - [SV] I'd suggest putting a slower SV like 0.90x for this calmer section

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seems nice

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01:36:716 Should be a double too, like 01:36:383. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14986566/deba Still feels fine to play.

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okay, with another pattern

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01:49:716 (109716|1,109716|3) - One of theses two could be a LN since, it has a similar sound as 01:49:216 (109216|0) -

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ok, rearrange pattern around there

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01:51:133 (111133|0,111133|1,111216|2,111216|3,111299|0,111299|1) - i personally dont find this very enjoyable to acc. And the time window from release to hit - 01:51:299 (111299|0,111383|0) - were rather too tight of a mere 42ms. I think the triple jack idea from amii’s insane works much better here. In fact, you’ve done quite a lot of jacks here, so why not for them?

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wanna to test with LN at first, but yea, gonna implement some jack instead

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ressolved

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But also you could add a bit more LNs, since' there's less doubles and triples in this section. Like the notes I just mentionned, you could map more of that sound with LNs, like 01:49:549 (109549|3,109633|2) -, 01:50:049 (110049|2,110133|1) -, etc.

Tho from here 01:59:716, it's fine having less LNs, but still, it could use some more of them at places like 01:59:883 and 02:00:049, which have the same sound as 01:49:216 (109216|0,109383|1) - .

And 02:01:799, I also think you should keep the 1/8 LNs here

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I hope I dont miss anything

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02:11:716 - till 02:17:049 - ,

lots of LN inconsistency here.

02:13:049 (133049|0) - & 02:14:383 (134383|2) - should've been LN here since it's the same fast vocal sound

02:15:716 - till 02:16:716 - should've been made with the same concept as 02:13:049 - & 02:14:383 - , if you accept the above suggestion then it will look like something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18130786/4ad8

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oops, I thought that the LN for vocal is already representated by the synth LN.

02:15:716 - using another layering coz there is new instrument heared

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02:22:383 to 02:53:049 Well my suggestions are all the same suggestion from 00:11:716 to 00:36:049 Since the patterns are pretty much the same.

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ok

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02:54:383 - to 02:54:674 - [SV] almost identical to #1658148, but with 0.75x, still slightly unreactable imo

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ok done

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03:15:716 copy-paste intensifies I get that the music sounds similar, but for the three kiais to be copy-pasted, no offense, but it's a bit of a lack of effort, isn't it? I get that the first two kiais sounds literally the same, so ok for the copy-paste, but the third should definitively be mapped differently and be more hard. There's only so mush you can do with basic jumpstreams, so you could do something like mapping the vocals with LNs:

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14986808/510b
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14986811/0df9
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14986790/cdf7
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14986791/0a32

It's different from the two first kiais, harder than a regular jumpstream and it still feels fine to play.

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Tho you could always put less LNs, maybe just when she says those sounds 03:16:049, 03:16:216, 03:16:883 etc. And 03:20:716. But I think it'S fine with more LNs.

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ok, I'll try

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03:17:966 (197966|3,198049|2) - ,

not sure what are you trying to follow here, if you're trying to follow the vocal as LN then it should be 03:17:716 - , 03:17:883 - and 03:18:049 -

if it's not for vocal, just turn those into normal note instead for consistency like 03:23:049 -

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change to normal note

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03:21:049 - & 03:21:383 - ,

could use LN here for the vocal https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18130799/726a

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okii

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03:36:383 (216383|0) - You should map the vocals like you did there 01:04:383, 01:57:716 and 03:15:049.

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ok

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03:37:049 And lastly, I also think mapping the vocals would be nice here, especially if you agreed to change the third kiai like I suggested.

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ok, I'll work for 3rd kiai

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solved

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