1. Too Collab! (4,95 stars, 539 notes)
2. Too Deep! (4,55 stars, 424 notes)
3. Too Shadow! (4,08 stars, 344 notes)
4. Too ShallowLord! (2,77 stars, 227 notes)
5. Too Shieky! (4,8 stars, 535 notes)

Cause I'm in too deep and I'm trying to keep
Up above in my head instead of going under
Instead of going under!

15:45 <Shiirn> : they're awkwardly spaced, don't have a good shape, are badly hitsounded, have combos that are too
15:45 <Shiirn> : long, are at a bpm where it's too fast for singlefinger but too slow for double and therefore is awkward and does
15:45 <Shiirn> : not belong on a hard
15:45 <Shiirn> : better off with sliders
15:45 <Shiirn> : that do NOT START ON BLUE TICKS

16:53 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders that don't overlap eachother?
16:54 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders with 2 repeats each
16:54 <Shiirn> : without the slowdown
16:55 <Shiirn> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/149182 sommat like that
16:56 <Shiirn> : .-.
16:57 <Shiirn> : also
16:57 <Shiirn> : 01:55:469 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this
16:57 <Shiirn> : .-.

Agnes wrote:

What's up? <: / Hey

[General]
Nothing to poke at.

[Too Shallow!]
Just a few suggestions. Nothing too big.

00:29:681 (8,9,10,11) - From a beginner's point of view, this overlap might throw some people off. Try and experiment with different placements of the four notes. If nothing goes too well, just keep as is. / Found a way.
00:49:577 (1) - After this spinner, try and cut the kiai off. / Done.
02:30:869 (5,1,2) - I don't think is an illegal move, but it's frowned upon by some modders. Try and find another way to adjust this to where the slider isn't blocking (1) and (2). / Fixed. lol illegal move xD

[Too Deep!]
Again, suggestions. Except on the kiai bit on 01:51:851.

00:35:107 (6) - Bring this slider down a bit. Part of it slightly touches the HP bar. / Done.
01:51:851 (1) - The streams from this point... is a bit too awkward. A friend of mine and I took a look at the streams... :/ He's kinda cruel. :< But yeah changed.

15:45 <Shiirn> : they're awkwardly spaced, don't have a good shape, are badly hitsounded, have combos that are too
15:45 <Shiirn> : long, are at a bpm where it's too fast for singlefinger but too slow for double and therefore is awkward and does
15:45 <Shiirn> : not belong on a hard
15:45 <Shiirn> : better off with sliders
15:45 <Shiirn> : that do NOT START ON BLUE TICKS

02:35:004 (6) - Try and make this slider a bit less lop-sided. / I didn't really understood what to do but i think i got it.
02:41:205 (1) - Have this slider end on the white tick at 02:44:564. / Thats a Spinner. lol

[Too Shiek!]

Since this wasn't made by me I tell him to fix it, because that way he can change it the way he want to.

00:50:869 (1) - End kiai after this spinner.
01:36:347 (1,2,3) - Straighted out this formation about into a line, so it won't look crooked.
01:40:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - This bit right here looks like a clustered mess. Try and fix it up a bit.
01:51:851 (1) - From this point of the guitar solo is a cluttered mess. Again, checked this out with a friend:

16:53 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders that don't overlap eachother?
16:54 <Shiirn> : 1/4 sliders with 2 repeats each
16:54 <Shiirn> : without the slowdown
16:55 <Shiirn> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/149182 sommat like that
16:56 <Shiirn> : .-.
16:57 <Shiirn> : also
16:57 <Shiirn> : 01:55:469 (6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - this
16:57 <Shiirn> : .-.

02:24:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - This pattern looks clustered. Fix up a bit?

Will get back to checking the Too Collab! difficulty soon. Good luck on the map. / Hope you check it really soon.

ShadowLord wrote:

Here you go :]

http://puu.sh/6Wis

Mik-ey wrote:

ShadowLord wrote:

Here you go :]

http://puu.sh/6Wis

Thanks

I was asking for a Mod, now I get a Guest Diff. LoL

OzzyOzrock wrote:

INSTEAD OF GOING UNDER

The source is definitely not Lego Rock Band. It was simply on that game.

SakiK wrote:

hi-;D from mod req
all of suggestion
[general]
fine

[Too ShallowLord!]
02:10:714 (5) - new combo

[ShadowDeep]
00:06:425 (5) - new combo
00:08:492 (10) - new combo
00:09:009 (1) - remove new combo
01:22:911 (5) - new combo
01:24:461 (1) - add clap to begin slider
01:26:270 (3) - add clap
03:02:135 (3) - new combo
03:12:471 (9) - new combo

[Too Deep!]
00:29:681 (7) - new combo
00:32:781 (6) - new combo? /nah.
00:36:657 (8) - new combo
00:49:319 (1) - add a finish
01:00:947 (2) - spacing /I see nothing wrong there. =P
01:24:461 (5) - new combo? /No.
01:38:156 (6) - 1grid down
02:23:893 (3) - new combo? /I leave it like that.

[Too Shiek!]
sorry, I don't understand 1/6beatsnap modding /Wait what!? O___o

I love sum41;D fight!

-Baby Strawberry- wrote:

hihi~!

For [too collab!]
the only thing i got is:
[01:24:461] (6,7,8,9) the space is a bit larger than other streaming parts..personnally. /thought so. >_>
nice hit sound ~!

For [too shiek!] /Yeah, Shiek style. Nobody likes it actually. =P
to me,there are some weird jumps like :
[01:06:545] (1)
01:40:999 (1)
02:28:285 (1,2,3) -
Also,
02:48:613 u could add some notes there.

For [too deep!]
02:24:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - the sliders i think is a bit liner. /Don't really get it, I leave it like that for now.

For [shadow deep]
i think its good~!
but the hit sound is not that good as other diffs.

For [ too shallowLord!]
GOOD~!

Another problem is that there are a lot of long spinners,so personally i think u need to make it shorter. /Play Sky Ferreira - One.

All the mods are only suggestions, im a new mapper and modder.
BTW, i like sum41, cauz they ROCK~!

Yeah! Sum 41 FTW! ^^

ShadowSoul wrote:

taken request from #modreqs

Too ShallowLord
00:04:875 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Whistles sounds better in this full part :3 /Don't think so

Too Deep
00:15:727 (2,3) - Remove them /Nah
00:16:244 (4) - NC here /^
00:58:104 (6) - ^
01:01:980 (6) - ^
01:03:531 (1) - Remove there
01:04:306 (4) - Add NC
01:06:115 (8) - ^
01:06:890 (1) - Remove
01:08:440 (5) - Add
01:14:900 (7) - ^
02:20:792 (7) - ^
02:26:735 (4) - ^
02:28:802 (8) - ^
02:35:004 (6) - ^
03:18:673 (6) - ^
03:22:807 (4) - ^
03:24:875 (9) - NC since it's offbeat /You're sure about that?

The Diff looks fine .. just try to make some sliders more beautiful :3

Too Shiek ! /Waiting for Shiek <_<
Overall
Hitsounds are Bad.
00:35:365 (5) - New Combo
00:40:533 (7,1,2,3,4) - hard to read .. may change it ?
00:48:027 (6,7,8,9) - that looks ugly .. anyway new combo on (9)
00:50:094 (1) - Remove nc here
01:01:980 (8) - NC
01:03:014 (1) - Remove
01:04:306 (4) - NC
01:28:595 (1,1) - Remove .. why need that Combo spam ..
01:34:539 (7) - NC
01:36:864 (2) - NC here since it's anti jump
02:13:040 (9) - NC
02:14:073 (1) - Remove
02:24:022 (1) - ^
02:25:185 (7) - Add
02:25:701 (1) - Remove
02:30:869 (6) - Add

Sorry for that New Combo spams :p

Btw .. i dunno why but i can't open Collab in Editor /WTF!?!

bmin11 wrote:

[Collab]
(MiTiai) /Not sure I should fix it because he wasn't online for a long time.
The spacing is incredibly small compare to the Slider Velocity. Plays weird IMO
00:36:657 (1,2) - Two circles, then a slider would have fitted better IMO
00:39:241 (3) - Start the slider here (yes, move #4 to this timing), and then end it at the red tick. If you have done it this way, add a note on the big white tick
00:59:138 (4,5,6) - these aren't equally spaced
(MiK-ey)
03:24:358 (8) - Add finish

[Sheik] /Will be fixed soon!
00:44:022 (2) - Remove the clap
00:46:864 (2) - ^
00:46:993 (3) - Remove the clap the at end
01:16:580 (11) - Stack this completely
01:18:906 (6) - Remove the clap
01:38:285 (6) - ^
01:53:402 (7) - Slider should start here
02:53:608 (11) - New combo

[Too Deep!]
01:00:172 (1) - Increase the spacing a bit. It's a lot easier to follow that way.
01:16:192 (4,5) - Ugly /I wanted to change that but always forgot lol.

Harder difficulties are lacking of creativity in general. Show your creativity a bit more :<
I wish I could be more creativ :<

Mythol wrote:

o/
General
Don't switch to x2.0 sv during final kiai, stick to x1.5 please. /But it fits better :C
Spacing for streams in all difficulties could be reduced.
Stick to one distance spacing for all triplets.
Stack Leniency really should be higher..

Too ShallowLord!
00:43:376 (6) - Fix this blanket. /What?
01:00:172 ~ 01:16:709 - This finish spam is not necessary at all.
01:29:112 - Note?
02:23:634 (1) - End this spinner on the previous white tick. (If I were a beginner, I'd go crazy on the spin and miss the next note for sure)
02:53:350 (1) - End spinner on previous white tick, follows the drum beat.

ShadowDeep
AR 7 is abit too high imo. /Changed to 6
Everything else seems fine~

Too Deep!
Does it have to be circle size 5? /Normal size what's wrong with it?
00:49:577 (1) - I feel this spinner fits better if you start it on the next red tick.
01:27:820 (6) - NC?
01:34:539 (6) - ^
02:12:006 (7) - ^
02:14:590 (1,2,3,4) - This finish spam doesn't fit

Too Shiek! /Didn't fix everything yet because somethings shiek should fix it.
All the streams could use smaller spacing.
00:26:063 (5) - Maybe http://puu.sh/gUQb (This looks really messy)
00:28:906 (6) - NC?
00:32:265 (5) - Please end this on the white tick.
00:40:533 (7,1,2,3,4) - If you're going to do this, lessen the spacing a little.
00:51:386 (7) - May I suggest a pattern like this, with the spinner moved as so. http://puu.sh/gUSm NC at the 7 if you plan to use this.
01:07:407 - Note?
02:51:541 (6) - NC?
02:55:546 (4) - This note slightly below the other 4.
03:01:102 (4) - NC
03:02:135 (7) - NC
03:15:572 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This spacing is huge.

Too Collab!
01:16:709 (1) - Remove finish.
01:20:585 (5) - NC
01:48:750 (2) - Needs a bigger spacing from the slider.
01:49:784 (7) - ^ + NC
01:50:818 (1) - ^
02:29:448 (3) - A little to the right would make it better.
03:02:135 ~ 03:16:606 - Jump placements seem extremely random, could use a little work.. /Replaced some notes.

As stated before, creativity is really lacking in the harder diffs. /I'm the most uncreative person in ther world \:D/
Hope this helped. ^^

gekkiii wrote:

The Collab!
01:50:301 (5) 1grid→
01:51:593 (7) 1grid↑
02:39:138 (1,3) remove clap?
Too Shiek!
00:18:828 (8) NewCombo
00:14:435 (5,6,7) 1grid←
Too Deep!
02:07:355 (7) NewCombo?
02:18:983 (4) ^?
ShadowDeep
00:33:298 (6) slider end isn't white line
00:35:107 (3) ^
Too ShallowLord!
01:39:190 (5) NewCombo

Good map!

Wasn't all that helpfull but thanks anyway.

1. Try to add some information in creator words of your difficulty names:
   
   Too ShallowLord! - Normal
   ShadowDeep - Hard (etc.)
2. Please make sure your kiai sections are snapped correctly
3. Resnap all sliders on all difficulties

1. 00:12:885 try this: http://puu.sh/vyuf
2. 00:15:469 this pattern would be cool: (you need to fix the spacing after it)
   

   176,148,15469,1,0
   144,232,15727,1,0
   368,232,15986,1,0
   336,148,16244,1,8

3. 00:28:647 try this: http://puu.sh/vyvO (better flow)
4. 00:48:544 try this pattern: http://puu.sh/vyxa
5. 01:08:440 another modder said, that the harder Diffs need more creativity: for example try this: http://puu.sh/vyym
6. 01:10:508 delete the repeat and add circles at add a slider or two circles at/from 01:11:541 and /to 01:11:800
7. 01:17:484 same case (try a curve, but not this zigzag)
8. 01:32:730 here should be a stream
9. 02:34:229 (4) make this symmetrical
10. 03:24:616 (9) try this: 03:24:616 instead of the other Slider

LKs wrote:

[Too Shiek!]
Avoid to use the same slider velocity as easiest diffs next time
00:52:420 (1) - Should be started from 00:52:032 - Fixed
01:30:017 (5) - Delete (this stream doesn't make sense, just add a triple at 01:30:146 normally) Removed it ;o
01:53:272 (6,7) - aw, you used a wide spacing for 1/4 beats here, I Fixed the Spacing , 7 is now closer to 6
and afterwards you used such 0.48x for 1/2 beats on 01:53:402 (7,1) - :\? yeaa...

Not going to mod a wall, but this map needs more works. Good luck.

CDFA wrote:

2 Diffs by ShadowLord? and only 1.5 diffs by the actual mapper? I think there's a rule saying that this isn't allowed.

CDFA wrote:

SHEEK: *Shiek
Claps on 2 and 4! >3<~
00:24:771 (3) - boring pattern! now its a stream
00:33:298 - Start kiai here. Fixed
00:35:365 (1) - boring pattern! hope its better now ;o
01:16:968 (1) - ^ other arrangement
01:21:102 (3) - ^ now its streamed.
01:24:978 - Start kiai here Fixed
01:55:469 (7) - NOT SURE WHY THIS SLOWS DOWN :> IDK ! xD fixed :'D
02:07:355 (9) - Not moe! wtf?
02:24:926 - Start kiai here Fixed
02:45:340 (1) - Boring pattern! now other pattern
02:52:316 (9) - ^ ^
02:53:608 (1) - DAFUQ YES!

intoon wrote:

from #modreq...


[Too Shiek!]



Hp drain -1, AR -1 , OD -1

00:16:502 (2) - x72 y224 Fixed
00:21:412 (4) - x152 y112 Fixed
00:21:929 (6,8) - look like hitburst hide reversearrow, maybe it's unrankable moved to other position
00:25:029 (5,6,7) - not good for reading moved..
00:30:714 (11,1) - loooooong jump?.. change short long? 4Insane never, but ok moved.
01:12:833 (5) - x104 y192 Fixed
01:16:192 (10,11,12) - not good stack changed it.
01:28:337 (5,6,1) - ;w; ?
01:30:146 (5) - change 2 notes Fixd
01:55:210 (6) - x208 y184 Fixed
02:10:197 (5,1) - looooong jump..... moved....
02:28:285 (1,1) - ctrl + R Fixed
02:46:115 (4,5) - complex partten... never complex...

Good Luck~

1. not sure about the "Easy" ^^ it is more a hard .. and if it were a Easy the diff spread would not be complet ... Easy - ... - Hard - Insane .. not good. Just call it Normal and everything is okay for me xD
2. your song has a kbit/s of 320. 192 is allowed maximum ...

1. 00:18:311 (5) - could you make the slider completly symmetrical. So Sliderend is on same hight as sliderbeginning?
2. 00:20:637 (2,4) - make both sliders 1/2 longer please
3. 00:29:681 (4,5,6,7) - flow is better if the bow of (6) is facing in the other direction so (4,5,6) are a nice curve
   
   sum thing like this

   
4. 00:31:748 (1) - a reason why you should call this a Normal and not Easy. Spinner is way to short for Easy
5. 00:43:117 (5,6) - I know what you did there. But could you please put (6) a bit down on the Y-axis? Plays/feels alot better for me
6. 01:12:058 (1) - dunno remove new combo and add nc to 01:14:125 (3) - this. Or just put a nc to (3)
7. 01:53:918 (3) - new combo
8. 01:58:053 (3) - ^
9. 02:10:456 - add note
10. 02:43:014 - add spinner until 02:44:564 -
11. 02:51:024 - add note
12. 02:53:091 - ^
13. 02:57:743 - not that sure but i would add a note here too
14. overall some finishes are to loud. Mostly on the non KIAI parts. Just lower volume there and everything is fine for me

1. 01:11:024 (3) - on top of (1,2) and use ctrl + g on 01:11:541 (1,2) - that plays nice, too
2. 01:24:461 (1) - a bit weird that the slider starts way before the KIAI and ends later then it starts ...
3. 01:50:818 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - not sure but i would like to stack (4) with the rest. Or have (4) not stacked under (3)
4. 02:51:024 - add note and 02:53:091 - too. Sounds weird at the moment

1. 01:43:324 - maybe lower volume slightly so it fits to the vocal echo
2. 01:55:210 (5) - stack with 01:54:177 (1) -
3. same as the other diffs. The finish is a bit too loud in the non KIAI parts
4. nothing really to complain. But i have to say that i am no fan of sliderstreams you used in 3rd KIAI part

1. 00:14:952 (6,7) - either stack with slider or put further away
2. 00:25:029 (5) - slider is to slow destroys flow of previous notes
3. 00:26:063 (7,8) - bad spacing. Slider (8) is to far away and music does not indicate jump really. Lower it to 2.5x or lower
4. 00:28:906 (6) - new combo
5. 00:32:265 (5) - slider is to slow again :<
6. 01:15:676 (7,8,9,10) - can't explain why this is weird. but it is weird
7. 01:21:102 (3,4) - stack does not really fit
8. 01:28:337 (5,6,1) - please constant jump of 2.5x I would lower it to 2.2x but that is idk . not my decision xD
9. 01:36:347 (5,6) - pointless jump. The next notes after (6) indicate a jump far clearer
10. 01:53:918 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - could you implement some jumps maybe?
11. 02:27:769 (6,1) - well like before. The jump here is not so good indicated in the music like the following notes
12. 02:47:407 (8) - ctrl + g please, has a better flow
13. 02:53:608 (1) - if you map to vocals. Don't cut it out suddenly. This slider should go until 02:55:417 - . The stream you used fits the music but not the vocals. That is kind of weird
14. 02:55:676 (5) - new combo

1. 00:14:435 (7,8) - no stack please. Plays way better with flow
2. 00:21:670 - add note
3. 00:48:027 (2) - i would prefer ctrl + g but that would mean changing (3,4,5) orz
4. 00:50:999 (4,5,6,7) - slider stream is way to fast with that spacing lower it a ljust little
5. 02:39:396 (3,4) - this stack plays bad. The triplet leads to pressing (4) to early