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LuigiHann
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Miek_old

LuigiHann wrote:

Miek wrote:

This is about BanYa - Csikos Post on hardest difficulty, on Catch the Beat.
I looked through some of the replays there that had rank SS. 100,00%. At the replays, they miss a lot of fruits in the beginning of the song, and end up with around 70 - 80%, yet on the record it still says SS and 100,00%
I, however, did actually clear the whole song with 100,00%, which appearently noone else has. I ended up on 11th place.
It's also pretty funny that #1 - #7 all have rank SS and 100,00%, yet they don't have the same combo.

Is this just some sort of bug, or are they cheating?
The bits at the beginning are "spinners" in normal osu mode, which translates to "fruit spam" in CtB mode. you don't need to catch all the fruits to clear it or get 100%, they're just bonus. If you watch your own replay, you didn't catch them all either.

Not sure how first place guy has a higher combo, but I'd guess it has to do with his score being from 2008. I'll look into it

Edit: Man, that first place score is really messed up: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

No, no, I know about spinners. It's right after the spinners, it's this long slider that goes back and forward, where everyone just grabs the fruits on the right side.
Dean
Quite a few Catch the Beat replays, especially older ones, show incorrect plays (including my own). Csisko's Post and Oblivion have bugged/outdated scores up the top though, max combos that aren't possible.
Zekira
The current #2Marisa score is kind of... bugged, when the new build was released... I dunno why it happened, but the case then seems that the replay shows a miss in between the slider spams, when in the actual play it wasn't...

...how do I know this? Duh, that score is mine. I could swear I did NOT miss in that slider spam, yet the replay says I did! What is this?! Even the replay I stored in the local scoreboard also shows that I missed somewhere...?!

So the score looks right, but the replay doesn't! O_O
Lesjuh
Ending of Daru's replay:



Daru on scoreboard:



wat

Yeah I changed the BG of this map because the notes were hard to read.

Card N'FoRcE

Zekira wrote:

The current #2Marisa score is kind of... bugged, when the new build was released... I dunno why it happened, but the case then seems that the replay shows a miss in between the slider spams, when in the actual play it wasn't...

...how do I know this? Duh, that score is mine. I could swear I did NOT miss in that slider spam, yet the replay says I did! What is this?! Even the replay I stored in the local scoreboard also shows that I missed somewhere...?!

So the score looks right, but the replay doesn't! O_O
Oh, i noticed the same thing in a replay of mine, in this song: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I broke the combo only at the end, but the replay shows a miss in a slider spam that didn't show before (so the same case as your marisa's replay).
I remember since i watched it sometimes, so i think it's a little bug in the new build.
Film11
I don't understand how the #1 score on Devil's Daughter [Easy] (http://osu.ppy.sh/b/19639) can be achieved. It has no mods (the ones below have hard mode etc.) and doesn't get SS rank yet somehow manages to get 30k ahead of the #2 score. Am I missing something?
Zekira

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Zekira wrote:

The current #2Marisa score is kind of... bugged, when the new build was released... I dunno why it happened, but the case then seems that the replay shows a miss in between the slider spams, when in the actual play it wasn't...

...how do I know this? Duh, that score is mine. I could swear I did NOT miss in that slider spam, yet the replay says I did! What is this?! Even the replay I stored in the local scoreboard also shows that I missed somewhere...?!

So the score looks right, but the replay doesn't! O_O
Oh, i noticed the same thing in a replay of mine, in this song: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I broke the combo only at the end, but the replay shows a miss in a slider spam that didn't show before (so the same case as your marisa's replay).
I remember since i watched it sometimes, so i think it's a little bug in the new build.
This also occurs on White Wolf's Kanbu replay.
Pattycakez_old
For Cruel Angel's Thesis easy mode Spirus' (#3 in ranking) score just doesn't seem to add up at all he only has hard rock, hidden, and double time on and yet he got around 115k+. I would understand if his spins were godly like Tormenter's but his spins were a 5k and a 2k and he had 2 100s if I remember correctly and yet his score is above most people who SSed and had much higher scoring mods and spins than him.

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&b=12787
ToRMeNToR_84
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Derekku
cyanberryio

Derekku Chan wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/30284

Uhhh wat
Ha, it's that guy peppy was calling out on #osu! :P
Derekku

Alex0686 wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/30284

Uhhh wat
Ha, it's that guy peppy was calling out on #osu! :P
Calling out? lol For what?
cyanberryio

Derekku Chan wrote:

Alex0686 wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/30284

Uhhh wat
Ha, it's that guy peppy was calling out on #osu! :P
Calling out? lol For what?
For cheating of course! :P And people just started speccing him. :D peppy even did that user specific announcement on him.
Lybydose

ToRMeNToR_84 wrote:

On Gojou Kai - Touhou Youkai Komachi [Normal] I don't believe the spinners in the #1 players replay. They seem completely fake to me. Not even a tablet player can spin that precisely and fast. The #2 player seems to have a more believable score.
The replay had 8000 bonus on the first spinner and 12000 on the second (with hard rock). I just tried it myself with with hard rock and managed 6000 on the first (probably could have been higher, didn't expect the spinner) and 11000 on the second one with a mouse. Definitely possible.

As for strange scores, on http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16621 everyone has a max combo of 399, but the max combo currently possible is 347 (or maybe 348).
ToRMeNToR_84
The replay had 8000 bonus on the first spinner and 12000 on the second (with hard rock). I just tried it myself with with hard rock and managed 6000 on the first (probably could have been higher, didn't expect the spinner) and 11000 on the second one with a mouse. Definitely possible.

I know that the score is 'Possible' but if you actually take a look at the replay. You can clearly see that the technique used to spin is totally Non-Human. Even though the score is plausible, The method used is unfair and untrue.

EDIT: I just took a look at it again and i'm 99.9% sure its not a hand made spin. Look at how the cursor reacts in the center of the spinner. It makes a very fast Triangular pattern which to me seems automated.
Topic Starter
peppy
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Zekira
Well, I fixed up my score on Marisa simply by overwriting it with a higher score, so I don't have that problem anymore, at least... not for now.
Marseille
Hi there,

I have never been active on the forums and as such I may be sort of a "noob" but oh well.

I have been playing the Taiko mod for Osu! and I don't understand how the scoring actually works. I say this because I constantly get higher percentages and such but I end up have a lower ranking on most songs. This unfortunately leaves me confused.

For example, I'm playing the Osu! beatmap for "Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!" on the Puru~ difficulty on the Taiko mode. I just recently received 100% accuracy on this song but I find I am only ranked 12th with 122,982 points. While, the first place person, Seshiri, has an accuracy of 86.67% and a score of 190,068 points. No mods of any kind have been used, I checked. This is rather confusing.

Another thing I don't understand is the replays you can watch from other ranking people. On the same song, same difficulty, same everything, I watch Seshiri's 1st place replay of ""Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!". I watch until the end of the replay and right before the screen fades to the results screen his score is: ~100,200 points. But then at the results screen his score is magically 190,608 points. I really don't understand this.

I don't mind not having any sort of ranking, I would simply like to understand how the scoring works and what is at work here.
anonymous_old

Marseille wrote:

I have been playing the Taiko mod for Osu! and I don't understand how the scoring actually works. I say this because I constantly get higher percentages and such but I end up have a lower ranking on most songs. This unfortunately leaves me confused.

For example, I'm playing the Osu! beatmap for "Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!" on the Puru~ difficulty on the Taiko mode. I just recently received 100% accuracy on this song but I find I am only ranked 12th with 122,982 points. While, the first place person, Seshiri, has an accuracy of 86.67% and a score of 190,068 points. No mods of any kind have been used, I checked. This is rather confusing.
See scoring in the FAQ.

Marseille wrote:

Another thing I don't understand is the replays you can watch from other ranking people. On the same song, same difficulty, same everything, I watch Seshiri's 1st place replay of ""Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!". I watch until the end of the replay and right before the screen fades to the results screen his score is: ~100,200 points. But then at the results screen his score is magically 190,608 points. I really don't understand this.
This is a problem and should be reported in this thread (as you have done).
Marseille
If it is wrong and a problem with the game, then I have another problem to report.

On the taiko map for the beatmap "IIDX (DJ YOSHITAKA) - Bloody Tears(IIDX EDITION) on the Normal difficulty, the #1 ranked player, Arvoitusmies has an accuracy of 88.55% but a score of 615,060 when the next lowest score is 345,876 points.

I watched the replay and at the end of the replay before fading, his score is ~ 161,540 but when the results screen appears, his score is magically 615,060 points.
Intermezzo
While, the first place person, Seshiri, has an accuracy of 86.67% and a score of 190,068 points
This is an old replay from a time where the taiko drumrolls didn't have any restrictions yet.
That's why the scores were much higher and why you see malfunctioning replays.
All of these old scores will be reset when taiko is completely fixed.
In the meantime:

It's currently best not to post taiko-related scores on this topic until the scores are reset, unless you are really positive that the play was macro'd.
anonymous_old
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Marseille
Right, Okay.

Thank you all for your informational help. You have cleared my confusion considerably.
Lybydose
#1 score on this.

Hard rock on a song that already has a really high "overall difficulty" setting (so hard rock is setting it to the maximum) from a user that's only been registered for 20 days.

His stats/scores on maps other than this one are less than stellar.
Daru
Speaking of which, how is cheaters going to be caught on the Taiko mode?

It seems to me like there will be no real telltale signs, unlike the osu! standard mode.
Yivo
OKay, i found this score... there is something wrong.

In "Sonic X Intro [Easy]" Catch the Beat is Ashchaos on the First place.

with a 106 Combo and there are 106 Fruits. HOW CAN IT BE? he fail a fruit!

Look the Replay! there is Something wrong!
Bayonetta_old
Joint[normal] #32 sdww
Non-Human spin
minyeob
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/67

Ival's score looks strange.
Real1

minyeob wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/67

Ival's score looks strange.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's because of the old scoring/spinner algorithm, right?
Derekku
I know this has probably been asked before, but is there any way to convert the old algorithm scores into the new algorithm? :/
mattyu007
Probably not, the scores will most likely be simply removed.
rust45
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blade3285
#1 score for http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18170
The replay seems bad
What he said ↓
Starrodkirby86
Hm...A bugged replay, perhaps?

HarZens is a very good player, so I wouldn't think of him as a cheater.
Inozuma
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/3206

Benda_11's replay.
Yoshi348
A Complicated Song [Easy] has quite a few plays with a max combo of 257 instead of 255, and replaying the replays does indeed confirm they should get 255. Fruits mode is illuminating; while the max combo numbers are instead 255 and 253, you can see that the 255 have two large fruit drops (or slider ticks) that don't exist in the other ones. These only exist in the score readout, not in the actual replays. Perhaps this song got updated with a change when it wasn't supposed to or something?
Gilgamesh
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/2664

Easy mode 1st place person.
I watched the replay, the person broke his/her combo once and also at the end it said 97000- something. No way it would show up as 190636
RogueHiyru

sword414 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/2664

Easy mode 1st place person.
I watched the replay, the person broke his/her combo once and also at the end it said 97000- something. No way it would show up as 190636
Following this, this person also has #1 place on "you are an idiot" [easy]
Lucidity

sword414 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/2664

Easy mode 1st place person.
I watched the replay, the person broke his/her combo once and also at the end it said 97000- something. No way it would show up as 190636
That score was set more than a year ago. When was the old spinner algorithm replaced? The spins could have counted more than it does on the replay. Also the combo was broke on a slider...I have a few replays where it shows that I break a combo on a slider, but when I played it originally the combo was never broke. Might be the same.

Speaking of Dodgy though...Look at the #2 on that difficulty. FML if that's a natural spin. Definitely using some program or macro or something to spin :/

Shame on you Hiroshi248.

Same thing here '-' http://osu.ppy.sh/b/32022
Yoshi348
Tsugaru Japan [Beginner] has a top score that beats any other by a ludicrous 52,000 points, and doesn't replay correctly, with the final spinner being failed. Was achieved 9/17/2008; is this that spinner algorithm thing I heard of?
mikhe
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

In this map in CtB, the level "insane" have a error; the first have 685 combo SS and the second have 633 combo SS.... it's impossible; look please :D

Bye
talic
Player [rurusiyu] clears stage with cheater under difficulty IOSYS-Miracle-Hinacle[Vieroz Curse].
You can see through spinner section as attached screen shot shows. Please consult and dispose it with staidness.

The attchment below is 22% brightness increase screen shot.


Xgor
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Dean
A lot of earlier Catch the Beat replays have bugged replays with misses that don't show up in the scores. And the map mikhe linked, as well as Oblivion by darrihuka have top scores with combos exceeding the maximum obtainable.
Ryohan
Can you look at this one? I know that this is FCable but I feel something strange in movement of this guy D:

arkiandruski
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/3516

Second place on Easy has no mods and a score that even the autobot can't acheive.
Mystearica
Ok, this might be a witch hunt but after talking with a lot of people, I'd really like to request someone to check up on this guy:

http://osu.ppy.sh/u/119022

Note his accuracy and rank.

Now look at this: (just a couple of his scores)

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8004
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5574
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/25212

Ok seriously, top players would have trouble getting those scores if you watch the replays. I smell another one_love macro user >_> I think the playcounts in his profile are just there for show or that's how many times it took him to get a perfect run >_>

I really don't buy this guy.
Takuma
The "Over The Future" replay is ridiculous. Most of the notes he hits can't even be seen anymore due to the flashlight's range.. *sigh* Yeah, check him out.
MegaManEXE
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minyeob
OK, OK
I'll talk to him as a same Korean.

At first, he played like this
638 plays - Yoko Hikasa - Don't Say "Lazy" [Alazy]
578 plays - t+pazolite feat. - Okkusenman (Hardcore Mix) [Hard]

But it sucks play counts so now he plays a map with Spun-out mod until he FC it. (About 200~500 retrys)
That's why his playcount is low.

14:20 <kkhpeople>: Macro? Is there something like macro on osu?
Yes, this words has no authenticity
but
He said he might take a video like Cyc's justice to Believe SS
He got really angry D:
edit: His live video is not very effective :p

His damn #1 records are here
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=17263
Let's check his records.

By the way, this reminds me about my past.
Some osu-ers said "I'm convinced that minyeob uses tablet" "minyeob uses tablet wtf"
I uploaded "LIVE VIDEO" orz


Fuck Flaslight :o


Believe or not,
It's very hard to doubt kkhpeople for me.
I saw his success&failure for so many many times......
edit: This is an old story he's a pro actor. He released his true character lol

btw
He respects ShaggoN lol
---------------------------------
Mystearica

minyeob wrote:

OK, OK
I'll talk to him as a same Korean.

He said he plays a map with Spun-out mod until he FC it. (About 200~500 retrys)
I don't think you understand what macros do.

He just needs one good run, record it as a macro, then add Hidden and Flashlight then run the macro since clicking does not change with these mods.

Me and Takuma and Megaman were just speccing him play that map he took #1 from Cyclone on, he used Hard Rock ONLY. Not even half an hour later he gets that #1 score with 3 mods. Spun-out, really? I bet if we randomly popped in to spec then we'd find his skill to be quite different ~_~

It's just like one_love where he used Hard Rock to get #1 on Candy man, it's not humanly possible really and he was dumb enough to do it, this is just less obvious.

I can't even see top players like Jerry getting those scores as fast as he did.

Also with spun out, he can do the same thing with the macro, just spin normally where there are spinners, record a good run then add mods and run the recording, no difference at all.

Those videos aren't live, they're based on replays and shows nothing because unlike Cyclone he's an unproven player with a very low rank and accuracy to show. As well, even if he did record his hands and osu in game screen on a replay how would we know he didn't use a macro? Just look at his profile:

3h - Chihara Minori (Nagato Yuki) - Yuki, Muon, Madobe Nite [Hard] 6,952,104 (SH)
4h - Chihara Minori (Nagato Yuki) - Yuki, Muon, Madobe Nite [Hard] 5,908,521 (S)
4h - Chihara Minori (Nagato Yuki) - Yuki, Muon, Madobe Nite [Hard] 5,870,646 (S)

First 4h ago HR S, he didn't like the acc.
Second 4h ago HR S, he liked it and was recorded
3h ago #1 SH he puts on Flashlight and Hidden and runs his recording. Note this map isn't even on his most played list and that Spun-out thing is hard to believe.

How he seems to be oblivious of macros totally made me laugh. Even if he did make a "live" video it's still easily editable, I will not believe he's legit until I see him play in person because the speed at which he gets Flashlight/Hidden #1s on hard maps is quite impossible. Not 100% impossible, but for a very unknown player, yeah I'll take my chances that his scores are macro'd.

Why don't you try getting any player to Hidden + Flashlight SS/S on Under the Sky Another and Over the Future Hard in 200 or whatever number of plays? I'd like to see that very much if you want to show me that it's doable.
arien666
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29035
Taiko Insane #1's play looks impossible.
Cuz... he doesn't use left side. But he used only right side and mouse...
I think it's hack :3
Shulin
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1560

Taiko - Easy 2nd place.
Taiko - Normal - 1st and 3rd place.
Taiko - Hard - 1st and 2nd place.
Taiko - Insane - 1st and 2nd place.

All these scores get a full combo but in the replay it clearly shows they miss several, I've seen this before but not on this scale. Is it a problem with the replays?
MegaManEXE
ROFL

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18682

#1 score, I think that's enough said, especially if you look at his profile
RemmyX25
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=31401&m=2

#3 (CtB, Normal) Mods: Hard Rock, Hidden

I watched his replay, and it seems hacked to me. His jumps are similar to |Auto|'s and he avoids droplets? Hmmm...

Download: yuliu1202 - Haru - Shanghai Tea House (Instrumental) [Normal] (2009-07-06) CatchTheBeat.osr
Derekku

MegaManEXE wrote:

ROFL

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18682

#1 score, I think that's enough said, especially if you look at his profile
I thought one_love was banned orz
MegaManEXE

Derekku Chan wrote:

MegaManEXE wrote:

ROFL

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18682

#1 score, I think that's enough said, especially if you look at his profile
I thought one_love was banned orz
Yeah me too

I guess he just got his scores wiped and had to start over?

x_x
DeathxShinigami
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MegaManEXE
Uh...yeah. Hard rock S and then the very next run flashlight + hard rock + hidden S?

Bullfuckingshit.



So is that enough for a ban yet or still no
Mystearica
Like I said he can add Flashlight and Hidden once he gets a good enough (in his definition) full combo run because it's recorded and Hidden/Flashlight doesn't change how he has to move/click. So many of his scores support this and when he overtook Cyclone's #1 on Moun, that certainly was the case.

Best way would be to just compare his Hard Rock replay (the play he used to macro Hidden and Flashlight on, so his most recent S before SH) against his HardRock Flashlight Hidden replay, bet you they have the same accuracy and everything, lulz. Pay attention to this and you will easily catch him. It's not he's trying to hide his macros so just pay attention. If you spec him though he probably won't be stupid enough to do this, I know when we spec'd him with Takuma he waited til no one was speccing to add Flashlight and Hidden and instantly overtook Cyclone's #1, that was epic lulz.
MegaManEXE
E-detectivework ftw

(Large picture warning)

SPOILER
Today I noticed that kkhpeople was online, so I checked his profile to see what latest shenanigans he's been up to, since he's very suspicious, and saw that he achieved rank #36 in Nightmare (Normal):


I happened to load up this browser window while I was speccing the tail end of his run for the #1 rank, for the record, and when I saw the final score I immediately screenshotted this.

Okay, anyways, so then he goes afk for a while (sorry, don't have pics of this), comes back, loads up Nightmare (Normal) and gets rank #1 in one run using hidden/flashlight. WITH THE SAME EXACT ACCURACY AND NUMBER OF 50s AS IN HIS #36 RUN:



And I've taken the liberty of screenshotting his recent #1 rank as well so you don't have to go look at the beatmap listing:



Immediately after I specced the last 15~ seconds of that #1 run, what does this guy do?

Why, he goes off to spec someone else of course, so that I'll stop speccing him.



y u scared bro, u hidin sumthin?

Can we please ban this blatant cheater now? These kinds of people are the worst, I have zero respect for them.

And while you're at it please that cheater ban one_love too, this time for good.
Mystearica
lol ^

I also like how his profile is always normal gold S then right away a silver S #1 score.

Does this guy even know that it takes time to memorize maps for Hidden and Flashlight?

Yeah.
-SiN-
maybe he planted a microchip in his brain
Real1
Just ban his ass. -_-
He has been active for so much time... it.. makes me mad.
MegaManEXE
Well

I'm not going to say anything more on the matter, I've found the evidence I wanted and I've directed peppy to this thread so the rest is up to his judgment I guess.
march9th

arken1015 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29035
Taiko Insane #1's play looks impossible.
Cuz... he doesn't use left side. But he used only right side and mouse...
I think it's hack :3
You made a mistake
I didn`t used mouse
:oops:
Zekira
arken, you don't need to use the left side to strum quickly. >_>
MMzz
Ok I had 10x 100s and I didnt hit many big notes (When you use 2 fingers) But the player in front of me had 58x 100s? and got 40k+ more score than me, even if he hit all the you use 2 finger notes I dont think he would be ahead of me with my acc of 98.96%. Oh and Zekira's score raped mine cause obviously he hit all the you use 2 finger notes and only had 10x 100s, looked like he missed the last 2 notes. But even if my math proves me wrong I still declare BS, and This player does not hack im sure I have played him in Multiplayer.

arien666

march9th wrote:

You made a mistake
I didn`t used mouse
:oops:
Umm... That's right. I didn't see anything(=X2 score on Big note)
Ok. It's my mistake. Sorry :(
march9th
if I used mouse you can see a"喝" when I hit the big note
;)
MMzz

MegaManEXE wrote:

Well

I'm not going to say anything more on the matter, I've found the evidence I wanted and I've directed peppy to this thread so the rest is up to his judgment I guess.

I looked at the guy/girl's profile and it says there lv93? and only in the 2000ranks
BS lul
Most people around there are 60ish I think
Daisy_old
Shulin
Another Taiko hack for you, http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=36211&m=1 #1 [Normal]

I think a picture best describes the hack:


The player gets 100% on the scoreboard with SS, despite the replay containing several misses, its the same problem I described last time really.

Stop hacking taiko people, or there's no point playing it.
Mariodude89
Oh look more taiko hacking.
And this one gives everything away that he's hacking.
Shinde
I'm pretty sure kkhpeople is macro'ing *again*. Screens below, note the mods (Hidden, Flashlight) and timing of all 4 #1s. (I couldn't include 5 screenshots in one post, so a lack of Normal and Easy will suffice I hope.) One try each huh? Pretty sure these were macros recorded in advance for each difficulty, and kkh just played them all in a row.

Well, maybe I'm wrong though.



Chozx
Heey
I found something stranges on Omega - Max 300 /Taiko, Virus73 is #1 and i looked at he's replay, but he didnt end #1
Same problem with #2
Hackzzz?????

Link of song : http://osu.ppy.sh/s/1173

(Look the replays)
Mystearica
Yeah kkh is macroing again. He JUST came online and right away this happens:

http://www.fate-testarossa.com/images/kkh.jpg (1920x1200 resolution so watch out)

Ok, I don't care how much he practises offline or whatever his excuse may be, coming online right away and then getting #2 on Easy (all mods enabled so HR/FL/DT/Hid) and #1 on Normal (HR + FL + Hid), both scores were first runs. And this is exactly what was happening with Shinde's post up there too. You can't seriously believe this is legit.

He's being smart now though, he's getting his SS runs or normal runs without Flashlight/Hidden on Spun Out or offline so we can't save his normal replay to compare against his Flashlight/Hidden, though with all this pile of evidence here why's he still around?
Zekira
Oh wow I actually saw my name somewhere here lol.
Mittenz, the reason for this is because of the insane number of big notes. You are missing a lot of points by hitting all of them as singles. Also, most of *keysmash name*'s 100s are on the early part, but he hits almost all the big notes as doubles. If only I could count how many big notes there were, I could calculate the exact amount of points lost. See the enormous difference in our scores? The difference between me and *keysmash* is 40k because of the accuracy, while yours and mine are 80k points apart even with almost the same acc. because of you lacking points in big notes. For an easier comparison, each big note you hit as a single note can be equivalent to 100ing that note. (but I must agree that *keysmash* does not deserve to be in top 10 :\ I'm almost tempted to go back to Taiko rankings just to lessen the number of people that are abusing their free time to get through the ranks.)

Also, moving on to the next matter, I could somehow tell that replays on Taiko are still a bit faulty (not sure why though), as I've seen some of my replays go LKSJDGNOEg too even if I FCed the song. I can't remember which, though... I just really know that there are some replays that are screwed. Because I really don't believe that NatsumeRin is doing it illegally.

inb4someonetriestoditchmeonthisone
Sir Minelli
Disturbia Paranoia.

Even though I didn't miss or get a 100 at the end of a slider, the score screen will not show "Perfect"

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5399
awp
Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8017
14:31 < Pulsje> Normal number 1 mtn1

I haven't confirmed this myself but I'll just leave it here.
Lybydose

awp wrote:

Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8017
14:31 < Pulsje> Normal number 1 mtn1

I haven't confirmed this myself but I'll just leave it here.
This too: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34527

His cursor just sits exactly in the center and spins 477.
Chozx
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Gabi

Pulsje wrote:

awp wrote:

Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8017
14:31 < Pulsje> Normal number 1 mtn1

I haven't confirmed this myself but I'll just leave it here.
Thx AWP for posting

Its kinda weird
How he spins (i think its crealy hackz)
mtn1 is no longer in ranking charts on Noriyuki Iwadare - Elise Deauxnim - Simple Melody i see
i vaguely quote peppy "his account will be gone in 10" and "kill mtn1" :P XD
MegaManEXE
Not really a score in particular but I had to notice this guy since he just passed me in rankings out of nowhere: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/161009

Apparently he just got +50 rank within the past day or so since the green up arrow has a 50 next to it, at this amount of score +50 in a day is pretty hard, though not impossible I guess.

I've been at my current rank for a while now so I know pretty much everyone who's on the second page of rankings and I've never seen this guy at all before, he definitely came out of nowhere.

What strikes me more is his 3800 playcount and he's in the top 100? Looks a lot like a multi to me...
Rena-chan
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Kytoxid
LQX:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40783

On normal and hard, his mouse is vibrating in the centre for 470+ RPM.

I then went and looked at several of his other replays, and the same phenomenon appears. For example, #6 here:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31014
Fragrant iris

Kytoxid wrote:

LQX:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40783

On normal and hard, his mouse is vibrating in the centre for 470+ RPM.

I then went and looked at several of his other replays, and the same phenomenon appears. For example, #6 here:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31014

How he spins ??
Kytoxid

Fragrant iris wrote:

Kytoxid wrote:

LQX:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/40783

On normal and hard, his mouse is vibrating in the centre for 470+ RPM.

I then went and looked at several of his other replays, and the same phenomenon appears. For example, #6 here:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31014

How he spins ??
I think it's a bot.
Lesjuh
fripSide - only my railgun (TV Size) [Insane]
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19022

On #1 on [Insane] it says S Rank with H + FL. Nearly the end I saw him miss in the replay though but it Osu! doesn't show any misses on the leaderboard. I watched the replay two times but I still clearly saw him miss.
Derekku
I'm not sure about some of these older songs...

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/31 Scores #1 and #3 are from old players using no mods (and no replays available either), while newer scores with mods can't beat those scores. I'm assuming they're scores from the old spinner algorithm that were never cleared =x

EDIT: Yeah, a lot of old songs still have older scores with the old algorithms. I thought that they were deleted before, but oh well.
arkiandruski
Another old map:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/65

Scores 1-3 have no mods and beat someone who got a perfect score with Hard Rock, Flashlight, and Double Time. Third place even beat him with an A rank. The map has no spinners.
Kytoxid

arkiandruski wrote:

Another old map:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/65

Scores 1-3 have no mods and beat someone who got a perfect score with Hard Rock, Flashlight, and Double Time. Third place even beat him with an A rank. The map has no spinners.
Seems like the map or scoring algorithm was changed and those scores weren't deleted.
Lybydose
Since we're on the topic of old maps, I guess I'll add these:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16621 - The "Easy" difficulty currently has a max combo of 347, but old scores all have 399
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16313 - I don't know what the problem is here, but the #1 score on "Face the Noise" is higher than what the replay actually gets. (again, old score)
Derekku
If I have time tomorrow I'll skim through this topic and see what I can find about the old scores. =x
Chozx
Nightcore - Pinball [Madness O_O]
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7930

Player : Betty [ATM Rank 5]
Rank : B
Score : 4.151.046 Combo 514
300: 377 100: 37 50 : 8 Miss : 4 No Mods


Player : Hanyuu [ATM Rank 6]
Rank : S
Score : 3.397.678 Combo 417
300 : 390 100: 36 50: 0 Miss : 0 No Mods


Betty Hacks , Or is it the Combo?????

Gabi
uh wtf pulsje.................................... Hanyuu slider broke only, and Betty got higher combo then him there is no "hacks" in this.
Gopice
pulsje..

That score is not suspicious in the least. In osu! (unlike taiko) combo count matters more than most.
Chozx
oke

Then i just know it ;)

Thx
RoyTheDragon
Pirates' island Vs. boss on taiko (#1)
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