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Chris Lee - See You at the Next Crossing

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Topic Starter
EnakoRin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年8月4日 at 13:02:25

Artist: Chris Lee
Title: See You at the Next Crossing
Tags: ChrisLee LiYuchun Xia ge lu kou jian
BPM: 98
Filesize: 15213kb
Play Time: 02:56
Difficulties Available:
  1. Beginner (1.01 stars, 132 notes)
  2. Nightmare (4.96 stars, 408 notes)
  3. PureMan (4.05 stars, 233 notes)
Download: Chris Lee - See You at the Next Crossing
Download: Chris Lee - See You at the Next Crossing (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is my first beatmap.
Thank to them:1025,lyingeyes,Asuka-rangerei,Sakura301,H-boy,Colin Hou,xxheroxx,Derekku Chan,SadKangaroo,ZLOdeuka,deepsea, Vikon ,DJPOP,choche,DiamondCrash,Kurai_ ,impossiblexu and Mianki .
And thank you for playing my beatmap :D
Hope it could be ranked because I think it is good enough.
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/14814
This is the earlier version.It has became overdue since I changed the title of the beatmap.
Please delete it,thanks.
Sakura
Red = Major issue, you should fix this
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion
[General]
Source is surely NOT Internet
Inconsistent mapping (Make all diffs close to equal in play length)

[Easy]
Go to timing tab and click on "Resnap all notes"
00:22:653 (1) - Start on 00:22:515, end at same spot
00:27:551 (2) - Start on 00:27:413, end at same spot
00:32:311 (1) - use a lone slider instead of a repeat one
00:48:536 (2,3,4) - I dont think it's a good idea to have 1/2s on Easy
00:56:801 (1) - Why a spinner?
01:13:791 (1) - ^
01:33:536 Insert break here?

[Normal] This plays more like a Hard imo
Go to timing tab and click on "Resnap all notes"
01:30:781 (1) - Remove this note
01:50:832 (7,1) - This doesnt fit a Normal

[Insane]
01:39:199 (15) - New combo
02:19:148 (3,4,5) - Confusing
02:21:291 (1) - - Extend to 02:22:209 and remove (1)
02:32:311 (8) - New combo
02:34:454 (15) - New combo
02:34:760 (1) - No new combo
02:41:801 (8) - New combo
02:51:903 (9) - New combo
03:06:903 (13) - New combo

Good Luck! ~
Topic Starter
EnakoRin

Sakura301 wrote:

Red = Major issue, you should fix this
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion
[General]
Source is surely NOT Internet
Inconsistent mapping (Make all diffs close to equal in play length)

[Easy]
Go to timing tab and click on "Resnap all notes"
00:22:653 (1) - Start on 00:22:515, end at same spot
00:27:551 (2) - Start on 00:27:413, end at same spot
00:32:311 (1) - use a lone slider instead of a repeat one
00:48:536 (2,3,4) - I dont think it's a good idea to have 1/2s on Easy
00:56:801 (1) - Why a spinner?
01:13:791 (1) - ^
01:33:536 Insert break here?

[Normal] This plays more like a Hard imo
Go to timing tab and click on "Resnap all notes"
01:30:781 (1) - Remove this note
01:50:832 (7,1) - This doesnt fit a Normal

[Insane]
01:39:199 (15) - New combo
02:19:148 (3,4,5) - Confusing
02:21:291 (1) - - Extend to 02:22:209 and remove (1)
02:32:311 (8) - New combo
02:34:454 (15) - New combo
02:34:760 (1) - No new combo
02:41:801 (8) - New combo
02:51:903 (9) - New combo
03:06:903 (13) - New combo

Good Luck! ~
Thanks a lot.
I'm going to perfect it~
Asuka-rangerei
I think it must be busy when you worked on this beatmap,but you should be prond of it. It's just like your baby..
By the way, I also think you're a person who like sy.... Oh,sorry, but it's just a truth. 8-)
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
Well.All of the errors that Sakura301 mentioned has been sloved .
And I changed the NORMAL to HARD.
Thanks again~~
P.S:Asuka-rangerei is an "Aniki", I know he is..... :lol:
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
I have made the length of "Easy" as well as the length of "Hard".
I think it's a better beatmap now.
Sakura
No prob. although i wont be able to check it this weekend, i'm not even sure if i'll be able to have time to get on the comp at all
Edit: Also if my previous mode helped you dont forget to give kudosu, to THAT post since it was a mod not THIS post
Sakura
[General]
Note: Source field is used for songs that come from video-games or anime, or if they were famous because of a movie then it can be put in that field, Source is NOT to be used for where you found the song or an Album name (Album can be in tags however)
Also if you want to put the Author's Chinese name you can do so in tags (or change the artist of the song, although be careful when doing this, or you will duplicate your song). Hope that's cleared out, oh and before i forget, a Song doesnt HAVE to have something on the Source field, you can leave it blank if there's no source to go with it.

Delete .osb file from folder and full submit, i dont see a storyboard so yeah
Insane is still more mapped than the rest
Stack Leniency = 0 is Unrankable, maybe give it +4 ticks
Use Grid Lv. 3

[Easy]
00:33:689 (1) - Start at 00:34:760 end at same spot (you can fill the other vocals with notes if you want
00:38:434 (2) - I think this Slider is better off starting from: 00:38:740
01:07:821 (5,6,7) - Dont use triplets on Easy, can you convert (5) and (6) into a slider?
01:43:026 (3) - Dont see a reason for a repeat, remove the repeat and extend the slider to end at the same spot
01:47:923 (5) - Ehh, just use a hitcircle here, a 1/4 slider doesnt look good on Easy.
02:12:719 (1) - Theese claps sound too loud, maybe turn em into whistles? or remove the clap from the repeat
02:21:291 (2) - Ok now this slider is dangerous for a newbie, either use just a hitcircle or dont use it at all
02:22:515 (4) - Try to restructure this slider so it doesnt get overlapped by the previous notes, also catmull sliders are ugly
02:37:362 (1) - Umm not really a good idea, a spinner sounds better for me
02:39:658 (1,2,3,4,5) - I know the song is slow, but please dont use 1/2 streams on an Easy
02:41:801 (1,1,2,3,4) - ^
02:49:454 (1) - I dont see how this part of the song relates to a spinner.

[Hard]
02:24:352 (1) - Awkward Spinner

[Insane]
01:09:658 (5,6) - Stack below the previous slider? (Hold Alt and set distance snapping to x0.0 then disable grid snapping, enable distance snapping and move)
02:36:903 (7) - Out of bounds
02:46:699 (5) - ^ although not as much as the previous one
03:17:005 (8) - New combo

Note: Remember if your combos go over 14... you are probably doing something wrong
There it is, make sure to get it modded by more ppl as well, PM me when you fix and i'll remod
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
OK.I will do it next weekend,because I have no time in week .
Thanks again
soulfear
卧槽 春哥必须顶.
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
All cleared. Waiting for modding.
P.S:
春哥纯爷们,铁血真汉子←It isn's important,please ignore it.
Sakura
Using spoiler boxes to prevent long walls of text
Red = Major issue, you should fix this
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion
[General]
SPOILER
If i make suggestions that are different from what i made last time about combos, it's because i've become better now at judging good new combo spots
Delete .osb file and full submit, there's a osb but i dont see any storyboard
Insane is still considerably longer than the other 2 diffs, remember your diffs should have some certain consistence between them, im not asking for perfection but if possible try to make them all end at the exact same spot in timeline or close to it (i mean off by a second or 2), i cant ask for you to have breaks on the exact samse spots since you are just starting and i dont think you planned those breaks ahead, but at least kiai times should be consistent as well throughout all the diffs.
It isn't particularly breaking any rules as the guidelines currently are about difficulty spreads, however i do agree with peppy's comments on something: "Where's the Normal?" We should be trying to provide beatmaps for beginners and experts alike, however that doesnt mean that people that cant do Hards should stick to an Easy and get a really low score or destroy their accuracy by playing a Hard just to get a better score, im not going to ask you to provide a Normal if you dont want to map it, as it currently stands you arent breaking the difficulty spread rules, however it would be good if you could provide a Normal as well.

[Easy]
SPOILER
00:54:352 (1,2,3) - Sorry but you should avoid the use of triplets on easy diffs, you can remake this into a repeat slider, then stack the last note at the end of it, though it MIGHT still be confusing for newbies because of the 1/2 distance to the next note, an alternative is to map an slider through this whole section or a spinner
00:59:556 (1,1) - [IMPORTANT] Sorry but this is unrankable, a slider cant cover another slider (specially completely like here) by the time you need to hit it you cant tell if it's a hit circle or a slider [IMPORTANT]
64,438 Remove this timeline, change the kiai one to Normal hitsounds instead and make sure you add another timeline section to normal hitsounds before it, aditionally i recommend you lower the volume of this one coz it's being considerably louder than the song, or just drop the normal hitsound idea, your call
01:00:781 (1) - No new combo
01:06:597 (4) - New combo
01:09:658 (6,1) - Move the new combo to (6)
01:11:495 (2,3) - Both of theese are new combos (considering you're using a combo per stanza on chorus)
01:26:189 (1,1) - 1 slider end is being covered by the other, i have been yelled at for this before, you should consider placing them apart a bit
01:27:413 (1) - No new combo
01:42:719 (2,3) - [IMPORTANT] Note covering slider, you cant tell it's slider until after you hit it, this is Unrankable sorry [IMPORTANT]
01:43:944 (1) - No new combo
01:50:033 - Random break?
01:55:577 (1) - No new combo
02:03:536 (1,1,1) - Remove new combos
02:09:046 - Empty part...
02:15:168 (1) - No New combo
02:17:617 (5) - New Combo
02:22:515 (4) - New Combo
02:24:964 (1,2) - 1/2 distance, i recommend you remove the last repeat and then start a slider where this would end that ends on where (2) is at
02:30:913 - Random Break?
02:37:209 (1,1) - Placing a note 1/2 beat after a spinner is too much for a newbie, 1/2 a beat is not enough for them to regain control after the spin
02:39:658 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Try to avoid 1/2 spacing on easy, red ticks should be used RARELY on Easy difficulties
02:47:311 (3) - New Combo
02:54:352 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I cant agree with a 1/2 stream on an Easy (even on a Normal that's rare) plus it doesnt really add much to the aesthetic pattern here since you go zig zagging and all of a sudden straight notes

[Hard]
SPOILER
00:33:536 (3) - I think if you reverse this slider (select it > Edit > Reverse selection) would look better
00:47:005 (5,1) - Make (5) the new combo instead
00:55:577 (1) - No new combo, it's still on the same stanza
01:03:842 (8,1) - Move the new combo to (8)
01:05:985 (7,8,1) - Move the new combo to (7)
01:09:352 (5) - New combo, it's in another Stanza
01:13:332 (1) - Remove new combo
01:32:923 (8,1,2) - Move the new combo to (2)
01:40:883 (6,1) - Move the new combo to (6)
01:50:679 (1,1,1,2,3) - Center theese?
01:54:352 (1) - No new combo
02:10:423 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 1 grid to the left [Nazi for symmetry]
02:12:719 (1,2,3,4) - Center theese?
02:15:168 (5) - New combo
02:20:066 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - Maybe instead of making this straigh to the center you would like to make them curve around so that (1) can be Dead Center on the grid
02:21:903 (1) - No new combo
02:22:515 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Coincidentially you could make theese a mirror of the previous curve you just made in the previous suggestion (to do that copy/paste then flip horizontally then reverse selection)
02:24:658 (1) - I dont really think this part deserves a spinner, spinners are usually for building up energy till climax
02:32:005 (6,2,3,4,5) - You could make theese a mirror of (1,2,3) 2 combos behind for symmetry
02:47:311 (5) - New combo
02:53:740 (1) - No new combo

[Insane]
SPOILER
00:01:699 (3) - Out of bounds
00:02:617 (5,1) - Move the new combo to (5)
00:04:760 (1) - No new combo
00:07:209 (1) - No new combo
00:10:270 (8) - New combo
00:27:413 (5,1) - Move new combo to (5)
00:34:760 (3) - New combo
00:35:985 (1) - No new combo
00:42:107 (3,1) - Move new combo to (3)
00:47:005 (5,1) - Move the new combo to (5)
00:51:903 (1) - No new combo
00:54:352 (1) - New combo
00:55:577 (1) - No new combo
01:09:658 (5) - New combo
01:11:495 (9,1) - Move the new combo to (9)
01:14:250 (7) - New combo
01:20:679 (1) - +1000 Slider is unrankable make it +2000 or more (this refers to the bonus score auto play gets on it)
01:35:679 (1,2,3) - Ehh dont think theese notes are following anything and they dont make sense to just add 3 notes at the end of an stanza after that break, why dont you map the whole stanza instead of just the 3 final notes?
01:35:985 (3) - New combo
01:38:434 (12) - New combo
01:39:199 (1) - No new combo
01:40:883 (6,1) - Move the new combo to (6)
01:52:974 (6,1) - Move the new combo to (6)
01:58:026 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - I think this is kind of overmapped
02:00:474 (15,1) - Move the new combo to (15)
02:03:536 (1) - No new combo
02:12:719 (4) - New combo
02:15:321 (1) - Awkward spinner
02:28:026 (8) - New combo
02:34:454 (1,3) - Move the new combo to (3)
02:41:801 (1) - No new combo
[color=#BF40FF]02:42:107 (1) - Awkward spinner[/color
02:47:617 (6) - New combo
02:54:046 (1,2) - Move new combo to (2)
02:59:250 (1,2) - Move new combo to (2)
03:00:781 (1) - No new combo
03:03:536 (1) - No new combo
03:10:883 (1,3) - Move new combo to (3)
03:13:332 (1) - No new combo
03:16:393 (6,1) - Move new combo to (6)
03:18:842 (9) - New combo
03:19:607 (1) - Silence this spinner?
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
Great job!
I found it is funny while modifing my beatmap.
And I will add a Normal .
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
Added a Normal.
Cleared the problems.
Rebuilt Easy and Hard.
Sakura
Nazi modding Go!
[Easy]
02:51:903 (1,2) - 2 grids to the right then
02:53:128 (2) - Mirror of (1)
02:53:128 (2) - 1 grid to the right

[Normal]
(Overall) Dont use 1/4 time spacing between notes, 1/4 time can be turend into sliders or repeats, also dont use triplets like on: 00:34:760 (1,2,3) overall, still needs a bit of work, this right now it's too hard for a normal.

[Hard]
00:58:918 (4) - Cant tell which is the start of the slider.
01:42:082 (4) - ^

And a couple more.
Slider ends need to be visible before the slider ball reaches them, coz you cant tell if it has a repeat or not otherwise

[Insane]
Small hitcircles are a No-No, no one uses them anymore, and i suggest you dont use them unless you want to annoy ppl :<
Same comments on sliders that i did on [Hard]

Ok, i've modded this map way too much already, you should get other ppl to mod it as well, I'm glad that you're taking into consideration my suggestions, hope this ends up a great map ^^ Good Luck!~ +Star
TTTTTTTTTTTT
首先
删除文件夹里的 .osb文件,然后full submit
kiai要开始在确定的那个地方,不要提前

Easy
01:02:923(3) - 删除clap,使用whistle
01:03:536(4) - 删除clap
01:04:760(1) - 删除clap
01:05:985(3) - 删除whistle
01:07:821(2) - whistle?
01:10:270(4) - 删除whistle
01:11:495(1) - 结束处加whistle
01:13:944(2) - 同上
01:16:393(1) - 留下第一个往复处和结束处的clap
01:20:679(4) - finish?
02:20:066(1) - 开始处finish
但为什么这段要用soft的音效呢?
02:28:638(2) - 间距
02:50:679(1) - 去掉new combo

Normal
00:42:260(1) - normal就别放这么近了..
02:53:740(1) - 去掉new combo

Hard
offset 0 0
觉得适当减一些clap,和一些地方可以用normal的音效(目前不用的,也是很好的)

00:34:735(1) - 建议用个slider连接这1和2,然后别用clap,感觉不太好
00:44:837(2) - 删除
01:13:306(1) - 去掉new combo,去掉finish,加whistle
01:13:612(2) - 去掉clap
01:13:918(1) - whistle
01:15:602(6) - 去掉 clap
01:15:755(1) - 和之后的2同01:13:306(1) ,01:13:612(2)
01:16:367(1) - whistle
01:53:102(1) - 同00:34:735(1)
02:12:694(1) - 之后的几个clap感觉不好

Insane
感觉点起来还不错,就是有些连点间距略短些,手感会好些~
如00:49:301(7),这个用1.7X的,就会好点很多(额...Insane还是应该难些好~XD)
不过,circle size用normal,overall -1效果会更好些

00:49:454(1) - 去掉new combo
00:54:352(1) - 去掉开始的clap

STARrrr~
lyingeyes

soulfear wrote:

卧槽 春哥必须顶.
春哥威武啊。。必须顶、、
:) :)
Topic Starter
EnakoRin
Done. Waiting for other moddings.
NatsumeRin
……抱歉这歌我不mod,出于对春哥的敬意,星星必须给。
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