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Hommarju feat. Latte - masterpiece

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simplistiC
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on April 3, 2010 at 5:11:03 PM

Artist: Hommarju feat. Latte
Title: masterpiece
Source: To Aru Majutsu no Index
Tags: ignorethis exit trance presents speed anime best 7
BPM: 180
Filesize: 8361kb
Play Time: 02:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.93 stars, 163 notes)
  2. ignore's Chaos (4.9 stars, 477 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 619 notes)
  4. Normal (4.23 stars, 183 notes)
Download: Hommarju feat. Latte - masterpiece
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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3rd map!
awaiting ignorethis, happy30, and taka1235's difficulty
ignorethis - Insane -done-
simplistiC - Insane + Normal + Easy -done-

ALL DONE! :D

splitting into two mapsets.
second mapset: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/14592
ignorethis
i'll give a star first

depending on my schoolwork the map may be finished in one or two weeks, but I'll try to finish it asap
taka1235
yeahyeahyeahhh
"ignorethis - Hard/Insane
happy30 - Hard/Insane
taka1235 - Hard -done-
simplistiC - Hard Insane + Normal -done-"

GL Getting this ranked lmao
happy30
ignorethis
as the title said it's a Chaos :3

enjoy

Download: Hommarju feat. Latte - Masterpiece (simplistiC) [ignore's Chaos].osu
happy30
my diff is somehow not yet included to the mapset, can you fix this? :?
Topic Starter
simplistiC
edit: nvm
Kytoxid
[Easy]

I guess in general, this map doesn't feel like it follows the music. The rhythms are interesting, but they should stay intuitive in the context of the music.

00:47:119 (1,2) - I understand this is just a 1/1 set of beats, but the gap could be placed in a more intuitive place, perhaps with more than just 2 sliders. For example, I thought a slider every 4 beats felt better here than every 5.
00:48:786 (2,1) - Spacing.
01:12:786 (1,2,3) - Same as before; I thought that the placement of every new slider could have been placed better.
01:23:619 (1) - Halve the length of this slider, and double the number of repeats. I'm a bit concerned that this stack is only a 1/2 gap, while the rest of the stacks were 1/1 gaps. Maybe don't stack them?
01:28:952 (1) - Placement of the repeats sounds kinda unnatural.
01:34:786 (3) - The new combo feels more suited for this note.
01:38:786 (1,1,2,3) - Weird beat pattern, doesn't seem to follow much in the music.
01:52:452 - As this kiai section also changes audio, put a section just before this note for the audio, in case the player hits the note early, while keeping the kiai section in place.
02:09:952 (3,4,5,6,7) - On the offbeats sounds kinda random and weird.
02:32:952 - Add a beat here if you want consistent beats.

[Normal]

00:12:119 (2,1) - Spacing.
00:20:952 (3) - Sounds better 1/2 later; remember to move the spinner a bit later too (end same place).
01:30:786 - This break starts very awkwardly mid-phrase. Please map more into it.
01:41:786 (1,2,3,4,5) - Hard to read this spacing. Slider also ends in a weird spot.
01:47:952 (2) - Weird slider.
02:05:952 (1) - Remove this finish?
02:26:452 (3,4,1) - Eh, spacing is different here. It's also kinda cluttered.

[taka's Hard]

00:33:286 (14) - This note seemed a little out of place, lol.
01:36:619 (7,8,9) - Felt a bit weird, but it's okay. XD
01:38:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - After such a tight stream, it's a bit hard to see that these are sliders.
02:09:786 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Not parallel - intended?

Cool.

[happy30]

Whoa, that's a lot of huge slowdowns. Might be excessive, in my opinion. Also, the timing sections aren't aligned properly; if you remove all but the first one, you'll get a ton of object-not-snapped errors, which means that the red timing sections aren't falling perfectly on the ticks, but 5-10ms ahead/behind, or something. Remove the timing sections, resnap all notes, and re-insert them. Make sure you add in all the normal-BPM sections before you add the low-BPM sections.

I thought this diff might be cool with the largest hitcircles, although it would raise the diff. to 5.00 (lolwhat) and lower the score to 7.4m.

01:34:947 (1,2,3) - Moving this a grid left makes both the triangle before and after the slider look neater.
02:05:278 (1) - This 1/2 BPM doesn't really fit, imo.
03:09:110 (3) - This note is placed kinda weirdly, partially under the slider middle.

[ignore's Chaos]

00:10:952 (6) - Concealed repeats.
00:21:452 (5) - Not stacked, looks kinda weird.
01:03:952 (4) - Concealed repeat again.
01:39:869 (14) - This is a double-note, please delete one.
02:37:762 - This break is kinda long, 20 seconds. Map some of it?
03:12:786 (5,7) - Moving these notes a grid up makes better symmetry.
03:14:619 (5) - Use Bezier?

[Insane]

00:14:786 (8) - Concealed repeat.
00:20:119 (12) - ^
00:21:452 (1) - Although the vocals end on the red tick, the strong beat is on the white tick, so it would make sense to either extend or shorten this by 1/2.
00:32:619 (1) - End this 1/2 sooner; currently it sounds strange and plays awkwardly.
01:30:286 (5,6,7,8) - Strange rhythm.
01:39:119 (1) - Same as before.
01:50:119 (1) - Dunno why you have such an obsession with sliders ending on red ticks. XDD It plays much more smoothly to end them on white.
02:04:119 (1,2,3,4) - Make it a square?
02:16:786 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The patterns at the beginning look nice, but don't particularly fit the music too well. (you come back to the center in the first pattern not because there's really a musical reason to, but rather because your slider finished and you need to put a beat somewhere) Later on, this puts all your slider heads on red ticks and slider tails on white, which feels kinda awkward while playing.
02:25:452 (3) - New combo should be here, not 2 notes before.
02:28:119 (9) - New combo here, not the note after. (align the new combos with the long white ticks on the timeline, pretty much) It doesn't make musical sense here to start a combo on a red tick. In general, you should take a look through combos in the entire map.
03:00:119 (1) - Since you've followed the lead vocals the entire map, it doesn't make much sense to follow the background here, in my opinion. Keep doing what you've been doing, at least until 03:23:286 (1).

Score is a concern for this diff, since it's not really harder than the other guest insanes. I'd say consider cutting the beatmap off at the same place they do.

Good luck!
ignorethis

Kytoxid wrote:

[ignore's Chaos]

00:10:952 (6) - Concealed repeats.
I think this one can be easily recognised.
00:21:452 (5) - Not stacked, looks kinda weird.
...my fault
01:03:952 (4) - Concealed repeat again.
Same
01:39:869 (14) - This is a double-note, please delete one.
damn why didn't I recheck for playability D:
02:37:762 - This break is kinda long, 20 seconds. Map some of it?
when I listened to the song I found the vocals a bit off to the current offset, so I prefer not to map it to avoid trouble
03:12:786 (5,7) - Moving these notes a grid up makes better symmetry.
sure
03:14:619 (5) - Use Bezier?
Uh Bezier makes this slider bad in shape imo
Fixed version is provided below. Remind me if you detect fatal problems.

Download: Hommarju feat. Latte - Masterpiece (simplistiC) [ignore's Chaos].osu
Topic Starter
simplistiC

Kytoxid wrote:

[Easy]

I guess in general, this map doesn't feel like it follows the music. The rhythms are interesting, but they should stay intuitive in the context of the music.

00:47:119 (1,2) - I understand this is just a 1/1 set of beats, but the gap could be placed in a more intuitive place, perhaps with more than just 2 sliders. For example, I thought a slider every 4 beats felt better here than every 5. Changed
00:48:786 (2,1) - Spacing. Fixed
01:12:786 (1,2,3) - Same as before; I thought that the placement of every new slider could have been placed better. Changed
01:23:619 (1) - Halve the length of this slider, and double the number of repeats. I'm a bit concerned that this stack is only a 1/2 gap, while the rest of the stacks were 1/1 gaps. Maybe don't stack them? Fixed
01:28:952 (1) - Placement of the repeats sounds kinda unnatural. Changed
01:34:786 (3) - The new combo feels more suited for this note. Done
01:38:786 (1,1,2,3) - Weird beat pattern, doesn't seem to follow much in the music. Fixed
01:52:452 - As this kiai section also changes audio, put a section just before this note for the audio, in case the player hits the note early, while keeping the kiai section in place. Done
02:09:952 (3,4,5,6,7) - On the offbeats sounds kinda random and weird. Changed
02:32:952 - Add a beat here if you want consistent beats. Done

[Normal]

00:12:119 (2,1) - Spacing. Fixed
00:20:952 (3) - Sounds better 1/2 later; remember to move the spinner a bit later too (end same place). Fixed
01:30:786 - This break starts very awkwardly mid-phrase. Please map more into it. Changed
01:41:786 (1,2,3,4,5) - Hard to read this spacing. Slider also ends in a weird spot. Changed
01:47:952 (2) - Weird slider. Fixed
02:05:952 (1) - Remove this finish? K
02:26:452 (3,4,1) - Eh, spacing is different here. It's also kinda cluttered. ??

[Insane]

00:14:786 (8) - Concealed repeat. Noticeable.
00:20:119 (12) - ^ ^
00:21:452 (1) - Although the vocals end on the red tick, the strong beat is on the white tick, so it would make sense to either extend or shorten this by 1/2. Done
00:32:619 (1) - End this 1/2 sooner; currently it sounds strange and plays awkwardly. Done
01:30:286 (5,6,7,8) - Strange rhythm.
01:39:119 (1) - Same as before.Done
01:50:119 (1) - Dunno why you have such an obsession with sliders ending on red ticks. XDD It plays much more smoothly to end them on white. xD Done.
02:04:119 (1,2,3,4) - Make it a square? I think it's a square now.
02:16:786 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - The patterns at the beginning look nice, but don't particularly fit the music too well. (you come back to the center in the first pattern not because there's really a musical reason to, but rather because your slider finished and you need to put a beat somewhere) Later on, this puts all your slider heads on red ticks and slider tails on white, which feels kinda awkward while playing. Changed
02:25:452 (3) - New combo should be here, not 2 notes before. Done
02:28:119 (9) - New combo here, not the note after. (align the new combos with the long white ticks on the timeline, pretty much) It doesn't make musical sense here to start a combo on a red tick. In general, you should take a look through combos in the entire map. Ehhhhhh..
03:00:119 (1) - Since you've followed the lead vocals the entire map, it doesn't make much sense to follow the background here, in my opinion. Keep doing what you've been doing, at least until 03:23:286 (1). Need more opinions.

Score is a concern for this diff, since it's not really harder than the other guest insanes. I'd say consider cutting the beatmap off at the same place they do. 12M max. Took out section after last spinner.
Good luck!
taka1235

Kytoxid wrote:

[taka's Hard]

00:33:286 (14) - This note seemed a little out of place, lol.
01:36:619 (7,8,9) - Felt a bit weird, but it's okay. XD
01:38:786 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - After such a tight stream, it's a bit hard to see that these are sliders.
02:09:786 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Not parallel - intended? fixed

Cool.
thank you !

Download: Hommarju feat. Latte - Masterpiece (simplistiC) [taka's Hard].osu
Leorda
Hello

[Easy]
00:56:953 (1) - No new combo
01:18:453 (1) - Allign with 5 (end of slider) Overlapping with prevoius slider it's not good idea
01:19:452 (1) - No new combo
01:20:119 (1) - ^
01:20:786 (1) - ^
01:21:452 (1) - ^
01:22:119 (1) - ^
01:25:452 (1) - ^
01:26:119 (1) - ^
01:26:786 (1) - ^
01:40:202 (1) - Move forward to red tick


[Normal]
00:22:702 (B) - The breaks are too short, remove it?

[baka's Hard]
Please decrease the HP Drain, the HP Bar is almost going to half while autoplay

[Insane]
01:39:119 (1) - Unrankable spinner LOL (AutoPlay must have a bonus score at least 2000)

Not bad
STAR
Dusty
[Easy]
This feels very weird to play. Also, there are too many stacks, I think a lot of them are very awkward
00:16:953 (2) - Split into a note, a nonrepeating 1/2 slider, and then 1/2 slider that repeats once?
00:22:786 (1) - So soon after the spinner?
01:12:786 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - awkward
01:38:786 (1) - shorten
01:40:119 (1) - Start on white tick

[Normal]
aah clusterfucks and weird spacing/stacks, doesn't flow well at all
I hate this diff a lot.

00:15:786 (3,4) - Unstack.
00:24:452 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix spacing.
00:25:286 (5) - Aah why is there a 0.5x slider here
00:28:119 (1) - Extend to white tick
00:34:786 (1,2,3) - Why?
01:12:618 (3,1) - Unstack. Why are these stacked in the first place?
01:13:452 (4,1) - ^
01:52:119 (1) until the end - Clustered, aah.

[happy30]
0.125x speed sliders? o_o (not actually a problem)

[Chaos]
Hitsounds might be too loud.
Sushi
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Topic Starter
simplistiC

Dusty wrote:

[Easy]
This feels very weird to play. Also, there are too many stacks, I think a lot of them are very awkward
00:16:953 (2) - Split into a note, a nonrepeating 1/2 slider, and then 1/2 slider that repeats once? Done
00:22:786 (1) - So soon after the spinner? Fixed
01:12:786 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - awkward Seems to be ok...
01:38:786 (1) - shorten Done
01:40:119 (1) - Start on white tick Done.

[Normal]
aah clusterfucks and weird spacing/stacks, doesn't flow well at all
I hate this diff a lot. Me too..didn't really like how it turned out but I'm too lazy/busy to remap it.

00:15:786 (3,4) - Unstack. Done.
00:24:452 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix spacing. Done.
00:25:286 (5) - Aah why is there a 0.5x slider here ?
00:28:119 (1) - Extend to white tick Done
00:34:786 (1,2,3) - Why? Why not? Not like it's hard or anything.
01:12:618 (3,1) - Unstack. Why are these stacked in the first place? Fixed. No clue.
01:13:452 (4,1) - ^ ^
01:52:119 (1) until the end - Clustered, aah. Yeah...really easy if you can see it though.

Sushi971 wrote:

Damn it, 6x3min xP

[Easy]
00:12:786 (1) - why new combo? I...have...no...clue..
00:21:119 (1,1) - they are to close (considering time) don't forget it is supposed to be an Easy diff Fixed
01:38:786 (1,1) - ^ ^
01:40:202 (1) - 1/4 beat earlier ^

[Normal]
00:22:786 (1) - timing's wrong Fixed
00:25:036 (4) - ^ ^
00:28:119 (1) - ^^
00:32:619 (1,1) - too close for a normal. ^
00:54:619 (1,1) - ^ ^
01:49:952 (1,1) - ^ ^
this diff looks loke a Hard >_> Not really xD

[Insane]
02:15:119 (2,3) - too close? I think its fine.
gdeath
[Easy]
00:18:786 (6,7) - spacing is a bit large.(new players can not beat it well)~suggestion~
01:17:453 (1) - remove new combo?
01:37:452 (1) - ^

01:41:452 (2) - make it 1/2 later

[Normal]
01:42:369 (4,5) - move 2 grid to the right(level 3)~nazi~

[taka's Hard]
00:48:786 (1) - remove new combo?
obviously,its insane
change the name to taka's Insane

[happy30]
fine

[ignore's Chaos]
no problems

[Insane]
00:15:619 (9) - new combo?

nice map
star
yeahyeahyeahhh

gdeath wrote:

[taka's Hard]
obviously,its insane
change the name to taka's Insane

THIS
pete2528
:)
ouranhshc
taka's Hard it should be taka's INSANE

overall, I'm not a fan of having to guess at whether something is a circle or a slider or even a repeating slider.
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