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Astom
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on lunes, 22 de marzo de 2010 at 12:53:36

Artist: Haruka Shimotsuki
Title: Hartes ciel, melenas walasye.
Source: Ar tonelico II
Tags: world of love loving people hymnos game
BPM: 85
Filesize: 11041kb
Play Time: 02:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1,52 stars, 110 notes)
  2. Hard (4,47 stars, 573 notes)
  3. Normal+ (4,07 stars, 343 notes)
Download: Haruka Shimotsuki - Hartes ciel, melenas walasye.
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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26/10/2010
*YES Normal again =), finished pliss test it, but I already check it a lot of times (Normal starts 00:45:176 - Finish 03:38:117)
*all distances are intentional so please no mod this, thx

If U use MixMeister.. well no thx, first play the song!

06/03/2010
*sonnyc mod rdy
*Insane 100% please check combos :3 (Insane starts 00:00:000 - Finish 04:12:235)

07/03/2010
*Shulin mod rdy in normal, AND REALY SPECIAL THX FOR YOUR MOD =)
*+minor fixes
*Shulin mod rdy in Insane now Hard+, THX again
*NEW easy (easy starts 00:00:000 - Finish 02:27:226, please test it i can't make it more easy xDD
*Hard+ fixed and +sliders :3, added time x2 img
*+minor fix

08/03/2010
*Hard+ fix and thx to onigiri-lol for test the song a lot of times xD
*easy space fix
*Auto fix, lol?

09/03/2010
*Garven mod rdy
*orioncomet mod rdy
*normal -> normal+, hard+ -> hard :X

10/03/2010
*Colin Hou Mod rdy
*Dusty Mod rdy

11/03/2010
*Breeze mod rdy
*al2e10 mod rdy
*Auto mod rdy xD

12/03/2010
*xxheroxx mod rdy
*xxheroxx mod v2.0 rdy

13/03/2010
*FishHook Nazi mod rdy thx :3

14/03/2010
*YGOkid8 mod rdy

15/03/2010
*Beuchi-chan Mod rdy
*Shulin Mod rdy, you are always welcome, thx =)

19/03/2010
-Auto mod rdy :3
-AngelHoney Mod rdy

22/03/2010
-VanMoNky Mod rdy
Dusty
Title: Hartes ciel, melenas walasye
Tags: world of love loving people hymmnos hymnos

[Hard]
The hitsounds are too loud, they drown out the music; in the Timing panel you can move the volume slider down to half

In Song Setup, you can move around the difficulty sliders; I think Overall Difficulty should maybe go 1 right and maybe Circle Size should go 1 tick left.

The spacing is weird. Sometimes, the spacing is good, but sometimes, your hitcircles are too close together. If it isn't a fast song with lots of streams (this one is a slow song), usually hitcircles shouldn't be overlapping.

01:54:117 (1,2,3,4,5) - Here is good spacing, most of the notes aren't overlapping each other.
00:45:176 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - However, this spacing is ugly, because most of the notes overlap each other. Make the distance between these ones the same as in the above screenshot.
00:47:294 (9,1) - This spacing is bad spacing, because there's the same distance on the screen even though in the music they're very far apart.

Finally, I like the heart sliders, those are nice. :)
Topic Starter
Astom
thx 8-)

checking and repairing....

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beatmap fixed, waiting for new comments :D
Sallad4ever
Hello Astom :)
This song is one of my favorite artonelico series song very nice :)

[General]
- Change the title and tags just like in Dusty's post and also add game in the tags
- A 4 minutes 36 second song is very long for some people, consider cutting the song.

[Normal]
- Maybe add another hit sound just like you did in hard diff
02:30:588 - 02:53:294 This is a very long break consider mapping this part
03:16:235 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - This stream of spinner is very tiring, try using a combination of spinner and slider instead, remember that the spinner should have minimum of 2000 bonus score in auto play.

[Hard]
Okay the problem that I notice in this diff is practically the same with normal
There are also some nazi issue but I'm not good with nazi, so find someone else you can go to here for help http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewforum.php?f=60 Read the rules carefully

That's all I can help you
Good luck :)
Topic Starter
Astom

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hello Astom :)
This song is one of my favorite artonelico series song very nice :)

[General]
- Change the title and tags just like in Dusty's post and also add game in the tags
- A 4 minutes 36 second song is very long for some people, consider cutting the song.

[Normal]
- Maybe add another hit sound just like you did in hard diff
02:30:588 - 02:53:294 This is a very long break consider mapping this part
03:16:235 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - This stream of spinner is very tiring, try using a combination of spinner and slider instead, remember that the spinner should have minimum of 2000 bonus score in auto play.

[Hard]
Okay the problem that I notice in this diff is practically the same with normal
There are also some nazi issue but I'm not good with nazi, so find someone else you can go to here for help http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewforum.php?f=60 Read the rules carefully

That's all I can help you
Good luck :)
nazi xD? :? I will review

thanks for the comments
onigiri-lol
Nice map Uncle Astom ~!!
;3
Sallad4ever
Yay Re-Check :)

The stream are much better now, but there are some problem :?

- Are you sure you didn't cut the song ? cause it's very long IMO
- Okay you still didn't change the tags yet, you should change it. Change the tags into world of love loving people hymnos game and delete the world of love loving people in the title
- Set the preview point at 02:19:058 to do this click Timing--> Set current position as preview point
- The combo is a mess but I'm not good in combo you should post your map in the queue forum

OK that's all I guess keep up the good work :)
Topic Starter
Astom

Sallad4ever wrote:

Yay Re-Check :)

The stream are much better now, but there are some problem :?

- Are you sure you didn't cut the song ? cause it's very long IMO
- Okay you still didn't change the tags yet, you should change it. Change the tags into world of love loving people hymnos game and delete the world of love loving people in the title
- Set the preview point at 02:19:058 to do this click Timing--> Set current position as preview point
- The combo is a mess but I'm not good in combo you should post your map in the queue forum

OK that's all I guess keep up the good work :)

- Set the preview point at 02:19:058 to do this click Timing--> Set current position as preview point rdy
- Are you sure you didn't cut the song ? cause it's very long IMO Maybe I can do another difficulty shorter? I like the whole song =)
-Okay you still didn't change the tags yet, you should change it. Change the tags into world of love loving people hymnos game and delete the world of love loving people in the title some problems but is ready
-The combo is a mess but I'm not good in combo you should post your map in the queue forum thanks for the suggestion


thanks for the comments
gdeath
Overall :
Remove this extra .osb file"Haruka Shimotsuki - Hartes ciel, melenas walasye. (World of Love, Loving People) (Astom).osb"
BPM: 114.380
Offset: 11,340(i'm not sure)
dont forget resnap all note
Obviously,the speed of rhythm bemcore faster and faster. you need multi-bpms...
well.i'm not good at measuring the multi timings...so i can't help you more xD

[Normal]
make slidertick decrease to 1.0
00:28:235 (1,2,3) - remove clap.(clap is not suitable for this part.only whistle fit it.of course, you can add clap in some highlight of the music)
00:30:823 (7,1,1) - ^
00:53:647 (1,1,1) - remove clap and add whistle
01:17:647 (1) - make slider end on 01:20:470
00:55:764 (1) - make it end on 00:56:117
00:56:470 (2) - make it end on 00:56:823
02:49:058 (2,3) - remove clap and add whistle
02:50:470 (5) - ^
03:20:470 (1) - too short and too hard for[Normal](you can use this length of spinner on [Hard/Insane],but [Normal/Easy] is unrankable pattern)
change all spinners like this.
04:31:882 (1) - replace the slider with spinner(it'll sound better and looks more beautiful)
04:36:117 (1) - remove whistle and finish.i'd make this spinner totally silence

[Hard]
make sildertick decrease to 1.0
you added too many clap in this dff ;_;
remove some clap and use more soft-whistle : )

Star
Topic Starter
Astom

gdeath wrote:

Overall :
Remove this extra .osb file"Haruka Shimotsuki - Hartes ciel, melenas walasye. (World of Love, Loving People) (Astom).osb"
BPM: 114.380
Offset: 11,340(i'm not sure)
dont forget resnap all note
Obviously,the speed of rhythm bemcore faster and faster. you need multi-bpms...
well.i'm not good at measuring the multi timings...so i can't help you more xD

[Normal]
make slidertick decrease to 1.0
00:28:235 (1,2,3) - remove clap.(clap is not suitable for this part.only whistle fit it.of course, you can add clap in some highlight of the music)
00:30:823 (7,1,1) - ^
00:53:647 (1,1,1) - remove clap and add whistle
01:17:647 (1) - make slider end on 01:20:470
00:55:764 (1) - make it end on 00:56:117
00:56:470 (2) - make it end on 00:56:823
02:49:058 (2,3) - remove clap and add whistle
02:50:470 (5) - ^
03:20:470 (1) - too short and too hard for[Normal](you can use this length of spinner on [Hard/Insane],but [Normal/Easy] is unrankable pattern)
change all spinners like this.
04:31:882 (1) - replace the slider with spinner(it'll sound better and looks more beautiful)
04:36:117 (1) - remove whistle and finish.i'd make this spinner totally silence

[Hard]
make sildertick decrease to 1.0
you added too many clap in this dff ;_;
remove some clap and use more soft-whistle : )

Star
thx, working on the suggestions =)

Edit:

-Obviously,the speed of rhythm bemcore faster and faster. you need multi-bpms...
well.i'm not good at measuring the multi timings...so i can't help you more xD I use "beat snap divisor" in 1/6 and 85 BPM works good =/

[normal]
-00:55:764 (1) - make it end on 00:56:117
00:56:470 (2) - make it end on 00:56:823 I think they are fine as they are

[Hard]
-make sildertick decrease to 1.0 I did not realize this change in [hard]

[Normal] 100%
[Hard] 100%
Shulin
General:

-- Resize combo burst it should not exceed 500 pixels width.
-- Cursor is distracting.
-- Find a better BG, it's pretty low res and there are plenty of images out there.
-- The hitcircle overlay looks bad on the sliders.
-- hit100 and hit100k look like the same image...
-- The return arrow on the slider is difficult to see with the pink combo color, imo remove pink combo color and pick another.
-- Take the "[]" out of tags.
-- The spinner is somewhat distracting when you actually spin it.
-- Your strobes are out of sync with the music.
-- I'll come back and check the timing later ~

First Stage:

-- Remove the countdown.

00:15:529 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:18:352 (1) - ^
00:19:764 (3) - New combo here.
00:28:941 (4,5,6) - Maybe a little too confusing for easy. Reposition 5 imo.
00:51:529 (4) - Confusing change in rhythm for easy because you follow the vocal for the rest of the combo.
00:59:294 (1) - Confusing rhythm ~ same reason as ^
01:01:882 (6) - New combo
01:13:411 (2) - Same about the rhythm change.
01:17:647 (1) - Confusing slider, redraw it the you can't see one of the swirls.
01:24:705 -- Unused timing section
01:31:058 ^ etc etc go delete everything that isn't used after the difficulty is finished.

Second Stage:

-- I'm confused why does this start later than Easy? Actually... why does this start where Easy left off?
-- Remove the countdown.
-- Delete the unused inheriting sections before the map starts.
-- Need a skip button at the end.
-- Preview point is different to the others.

01:30:352 (1) - Ninja spinner is a bit annoying, spinner so fast makes the next note hard to see.

Not bad, some of the new combo spam is a little unnecessary.

Final Stage:

-- Hm, so now I get the play the last part of the song...
-- + 1 on circle size imo.
-- Minus 1 on the hp drain.

02:47:647 -- Weird gaps in the song, I just watch the HP bar drain.
02:50:470 ^

Well I understand why you'd want to split up a very long song but into 3 different difficulties but I'm not sure if its a great idea. Well that's all for now I'll come back and star later
Sushi
1- I don't like the skin
The external circles of the circles are too transparent imo. you can't properly know if the approach circle is on or not. the slider ball is huh. the hticircles seems the same. the spinner is just a circle with image in.
the cursor is just 'what'.

2- How is that mapped?
Why is this cut in parts in all diffs? i really don't like that.

Though it seems well mapped, i can't mod this for the moment. do something about that.
Topic Starter
Astom
:? i like my skin TT_TT well okay working.... this is my first song so be patient with me :roll:

PD fallen down is the second one
Topic Starter
Astom

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- Resize combo burst it should not exceed 500 pixels width.rdy
-- Cursor is distracting. rdy, new one now :3
-- Find a better BG, it's pretty low res and there are plenty of images out there. rdy
-- The hitcircle overlay looks bad on the sliders.rdy
-- hit100 and hit100k look like the same image...rdy
-- The return arrow on the slider is difficult to see with the pink combo color, imo remove pink combo color and pick another.rdy
-- Take the "[]" out of tags.rdy
-- The spinner is somewhat distracting when you actually spin it.rdy
-- Your strobes are out of sync with the music.rdy
-- I'll come back and check the timing later ~thanks, I'm reviewing this but I need some help =)

First Stage:

-- Remove the countdown.

00:15:529 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:18:352 (1) - ^
00:19:764 (3) - New combo here.
00:28:941 (4,5,6) - Maybe a little too confusing for easy. Reposition 5 imo.this is normal =) not easy
00:51:529 (4) - Confusing change in rhythm for easy because you follow the vocal for the rest of the combo.this is normal =) not easy
00:59:294 (1) - Confusing rhythm ~ same reason as ^this is normal =) not easy
01:01:882 (6) - New combo rdy
01:13:411 (2) - Same about the rhythm change. this is normal =) not easy
01:17:647 (1) - Confusing slider, redraw it the you can't see one of the swirls.rdy
01:24:705 -- Unused timing section
01:31:058 ^ etc etc go delete everything that isn't used after the difficulty is finished.

Second Stage:

-- I'm confused why does this start later than Easy? Actually... why does this start where Easy left off?because the song is too long, I already mapped the full song tree times (normal, hard, insane) but I decide make this in 3 shoot because have people with complaints
-- Remove the countdown.rdy
-- Delete the unused inheriting sections before the map starts.rdy
-- Need a skip button at the end.??
-- Preview point is different to the others.rdy

01:30:352 (1) - Ninja spinner is a bit annoying, spinner so fast makes the next note hard to see.try now with the new skin

Not bad, some of the new combo spam is a little unnecessary. thx =)

Final Stage:

-- Hm, so now I get the play the last part of the song...yea xD
-- + 1 on circle size imo. rdy
-- Minus 1 on the hp drain. rdy

02:47:647 -- Weird gaps in the song, I just watch the HP bar drain.
02:50:470 ^

Well I understand why you'd want to split up a very long song but into 3 different difficulties but I'm not sure if its a great idea. Well that's all for now I'll come back and star later
Well, there is still a reason to separate the song, at the end of this there are several changes of BPM, therefore, I prefer this section only in insane.

If u can help me with the changes in BPM I really would be grateful :)
FernandMich

Astom wrote:

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- Resize combo burst it should not exceed 500 pixels width.rdy
-- Cursor is distracting. rdy, new one now :3
-- Find a better BG, it's pretty low res and there are plenty of images out there. rdy
-- The hitcircle overlay looks bad on the sliders.rdy
-- hit100 and hit100k look like the same image...rdy
-- The return arrow on the slider is difficult to see with the pink combo color, imo remove pink combo color and pick another.rdy
-- Take the "[]" out of tags.rdy
-- The spinner is somewhat distracting when you actually spin it.rdy
-- Your strobes are out of sync with the music.rdy
-- I'll come back and check the timing later ~thanks, I'm reviewing this but I need some help =)

First Stage:

-- Remove the countdown.

00:15:529 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:18:352 (1) - ^
00:19:764 (3) - New combo here.
00:28:941 (4,5,6) - Maybe a little too confusing for easy. Reposition 5 imo.this is normal =) not easy
00:51:529 (4) - Confusing change in rhythm for easy because you follow the vocal for the rest of the combo.this is normal =) not easy
00:59:294 (1) - Confusing rhythm ~ same reason as ^this is normal =) not easy
01:01:882 (6) - New combo rdy
01:13:411 (2) - Same about the rhythm change. this is normal =) not easy
01:17:647 (1) - Confusing slider, redraw it the you can't see one of the swirls.rdy
01:24:705 -- Unused timing section
01:31:058 ^ etc etc go delete everything that isn't used after the difficulty is finished.

Second Stage:

-- I'm confused why does this start later than Easy? Actually... why does this start where Easy left off?because the song is too long, I already mapped the full song tree times (normal, hard, insane) but I decide make this in 3 shoot because have people with complaints
-- Remove the countdown.rdy
-- Delete the unused inheriting sections before the map starts.rdy
-- Need a skip button at the end.??
-- Preview point is different to the others.rdy

01:30:352 (1) - Ninja spinner is a bit annoying, spinner so fast makes the next note hard to see.try now with the new skin

Not bad, some of the new combo spam is a little unnecessary. thx =)

Final Stage:

-- Hm, so now I get the play the last part of the song...yea xD
-- + 1 on circle size imo. rdy
-- Minus 1 on the hp drain. rdy

02:47:647 -- Weird gaps in the song, I just watch the HP bar drain.
02:50:470 ^

Well I understand why you'd want to split up a very long song but into 3 different difficulties but I'm not sure if its a great idea. Well that's all for now I'll come back and star later
Well, there is still a reason to separate the song, at the end of this there are several changes of BPM, therefore, I prefer this section only in insane.

If u can help me with the changes in BPM I really would be grateful :)
Nice the song x3
Sushi
consider make hitsounds louder (just a little)

[Second stage]
02:04:941 (8) - finish 1/3 beat later, sounds better imo

[Final Stage]
02:41:882 (x) - Here,
02:42:588 (x) - here,
02:43:294 (x) - here,
02:44:235 (x) - and here, it feels like there's a note missing. the player can bue confused as he doesnt really know what part of the music the streams are based on.
04:15:726 (2) - put on 1/3
04:22:305 (1) - unsnapped
04:26:715 (7) - ^

the song is <3
Topic Starter
Astom

Sushi971 wrote:

consider make hitsounds louder (just a little)

[Second stage]
02:04:941 (8) - finish 1/3 beat later, sounds better imordy

[Final Stage]
02:41:882 (x) - Here,rdy
02:42:588 (x) - here,rdy
02:43:294 (x) - here,rdy
02:44:235 (x) - and here, it feels like there's a note missing. the player can bue confused as he doesnt really know what part of the music the streams are based on.rdy
04:15:726 (2) - put on 1/3rdy
04:22:305 (1) - unsnapped??
04:26:715 (7) - ^??

the song is <3
thx =)
Diasios
I don't like these cuts between the difficulties... are they necessary? You should map this song without them imo :|
Also, spacing is weird :S you should make the circles and the sliders more symmetrical, don't place them randomly on the grid.

[First Stage]

Slider Velocity: 120

[Second Stage]

Slider Velocity: 130

[Final Stage]

02:42:588 (6) - New combo
02:43:294 (11) - ^
02:43:764 (14) - ^
02:46:117 (5) - ^


Well... the mapping is good, nothing wrong with it, I might even say your a good mapper.
However, the map and song is uninteresting. All three difficulties. Sorry :(
Shulin
Copy paste into timing points in notepad:

11300.8182773109,705.882352941176,4,2,0,26,1,0
252715.684210526,631.578947368421,4,2,0,26,1,0
257737,582.52427184466,4,2,0,26,1,0
260067,606.060606060606,4,2,0,26,1,0
262520.504672897,560.747663551402,4,2,0,100,1,0
266977,495.867768595041,4,2,0,100,1,0
268962,689.655172413793,4,2,0,100,1,0
271950,689.655172413793,4,2,0,100,1,0
276127.384615385,461.538461538462,4,2,0,100,1,0

This is by no means perfect, timing dynamic bpm isn't easy, but this timing should allow you to map it (imo just don't map the end it would be a lot easier ~) but imo you should pick one part of the song and map three difficulties for it like xxheroxx and Sushi have already said, that way you could skip the end.

Anyway I'll recheck the rest later.
Topic Starter
Astom

Shulin wrote:

Copy paste into timing points in notepad:

11300.8182773109,705.882352941176,4,2,0,26,1,0
252715.684210526,631.578947368421,4,2,0,26,1,0
257737,582.52427184466,4,2,0,26,1,0
260067,606.060606060606,4,2,0,26,1,0
262520.504672897,560.747663551402,4,2,0,100,1,0
266977,495.867768595041,4,2,0,100,1,0
268962,689.655172413793,4,2,0,100,1,0
271950,689.655172413793,4,2,0,100,1,0
276127.384615385,461.538461538462,4,2,0,100,1,0

This is by no means perfect, timing dynamic bpm isn't easy, but this timing should allow you to map it (imo just don't map the end it would be a lot easier ~) but imo you should pick one part of the song and map three difficulties for it like xxheroxx and Sushi have already said, that way you could skip the end.

Anyway I'll recheck the rest later.
okey okey I understad... u know?, I remap ALL AGAIN :(
Sonnyc
Hi

Normal
  • 01:25:882 (8) New combo
    02:29:647 (10) Not a good idea in a Normal
    02:44:941 (8) New combo
    03:07:058 (6) Spacing
Star
Topic Starter
Astom

sonnyc wrote:

Hi

Normal
  • 01:25:882 (8) New combo rdy
    02:29:647 (10) Not a good idea in a Normal mm ok, rdy
    02:44:941 (8) New combo rdy
    03:07:058 (6) Spacingrdy


Star
^^ thx
3ly_S
Star! para la song ^^
algunas cosas por areglar que te lo digan los que saben , yo no me manejo mucho xP pero engeneral esta buena :o
mucha suerte ^^
Shulin
Sorry for the delay.

General:

-- Add an Easier difficulty (3.5 stars or under) since this is a relaxing song it should be easy to make ^^
-- The skin is looking much better now.
-- Delete the SB when the map has finished.

Normal:

-- There are quite a few overlaps, maybe change the direction of some combo's so they overlap less.

00:47:294 (9,1) - Spacing?
01:00:235 (2,3,4,5) - Slightly confusing maybe rearrange them so they are not all clustered around the slider?
01:04:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Spacing? Compare with 01:01:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) -
01:14:117 (3,4,5,6) - Maybe move this in a different direction to minimise overlap?

Insane:

-- Maybe increase the circle size?
-- Well... this really isn't insane imo it doesn't flow as well as normal, I'd reccommend using bigger circlesand spreading this out a bit more and the score really comes from the length and absence of lots of sliders. Actually Normal would proibably suffice as you easiest difficulty but it's up to you ^^

00:11:294 (2) - Move this from under the slider?
00:30:117 (8,1,2,3,4) - These overlaps don't look so great, spread those sliders out a little?
01:17:647 (10) - You could try and make this symmetrical if you wanted to XD
01:23:647 (2,3,4) - Way too confusing respace this please.
01:25:764 (1,2,3) - Doesn't fit the music.
01:26:117 (4) - Weird jump.
01:45:882 -- You may need a x2 warning here.
02:05:411 (1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1) - The new combos aren't really necessary here.
02:07:764 (1) - Reshape?
02:11:294 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:16:941 (1) - ^
02:29:411 (9) - Confusing shape.
02:41:882 (1,2,3,4,5) - These 1/6 streams don't fit that well imo. Also add some hitsounds if you want to keep it because its hard to follow with the low volume soft (maybe increase the audio volume?)
02:43:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
02:47:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ The spacing is probably too close to.
02:49:647 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ Same thing remember add hitsounds.
03:21:176 (1) - Remove new combo.
03:21:411 (2) - Delete?

That's all for now, there's still a bit more modding to be done here so make sure to ask for more opinions but I can see you've put effort into remapping this so here's a star :D
Topic Starter
Astom

Shulin wrote:

Sorry for the delay.

General:

-- Add an Easier difficulty (3.5 stars or under) since this is a relaxing song it should be easy to make ^^mm ok
-- The skin is looking much better now.thx
-- Delete the SB when the map has finished.ok

Normal:

-- There are quite a few overlaps, maybe change the direction of some combo's so they overlap less.ok

00:47:294 (9,1) - Spacing?I did it on purpose, but I can change it
01:00:235 (2,3,4,5) - Slightly confusing maybe rearrange them so they are not all clustered around the slider?rdy
01:04:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Spacing? Compare with 01:01:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - made on purpose, but no problems in change it
01:14:117 (3,4,5,6) - Maybe move this in a different direction to minimise overlap?mmm ok

Insane:

-- Maybe increase the circle size?ok and rdy
-- Well... this really isn't insane imo it doesn't flow as well as normal, I'd reccommend using bigger circlesand spreading this out a bit more and the score really comes from the length and absence of lots of sliders. Actually Normal would proibably suffice as you easiest difficulty but it's up to you ^^I change it to Hard+, and yea I make a review en the sliders

00:11:294 (2) - Move this from under the slider?rdy
00:30:117 (8,1,2,3,4) - These overlaps don't look so great, spread those sliders out a little?mm rdy
01:17:647 (10) - You could try and make this symmetrical if you wanted to XDI try but it's hard to do hahaha xD
01:23:647 (2,3,4) - Way too confusing respace this please.rdy
01:25:764 (1,2,3) - Doesn't fit the music. i follow a instrument :3 listen again
01:26:117 (4) - Weird jump.rdy
01:45:882 -- You may need a x2 warning here.ok
02:05:411 (1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1) - The new combos aren't really necessary here.rdy
02:07:764 (1) - Reshape? naa xD
02:11:294 (1) - Remove new combo. rdy
02:16:941 (1) - ^ rdy
02:29:411 (9) - Confusing shape.rdy

fixed... I haven't problems with this but i change it
02:41:882 (1,2,3,4,5) - These 1/6 streams don't fit that well imo. Also add some hitsounds if you want to keep it because its hard to follow with the low volume soft (maybe increase the audio volume?)
02:43:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
02:47:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ The spacing is probably too close to.
02:49:647 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ Same thing remember add hitsounds.

03:21:176 (1) - Remove new combo.rdy
03:21:411 (2) - Delete? naa, i like the "la la" xDD

That's all for now, there's still a bit more modding to be done here so make sure to ask for more opinions but I can see you've put effort into remapping this so here's a star :D thx =)
Thx for u help and time ;3
Garven
[Easy]
00:48:705 This slider sticks out from all the other sliders. Try to smooth the curve out a bit.
01:28:941 This spinner's end feels really close to the next set of notes for an easy mode, though there doesn't feel like there's a better place for it. Maybe just map some more regular beats in place of this spinner.
02:11:294 ^

[Normal]
02:52:941 Move this down 1 and left 1 grid (level 3)

[Hard]
231 second play time... that's getting pretty long, especially with only one break period.
04:12:235 [4] This beat feels like it shouldn't be there. The rhythmic phrase off the vocals feels like it should end at [3]. If you want to finish that visual pattern, just steal one from the previous combo's stacks.
Topic Starter
Astom

Garven wrote:

[Easy]
00:48:705 This slider sticks out from all the other sliders. Try to smooth the curve out a bit.mmm.. rdy
01:28:941 This spinner's end feels really close to the next set of notes for an easy mode, though there doesn't feel like there's a better place for it. Maybe just map some more regular beats in place of this spinner.I consider it, but I don't think there will be a problem
02:11:294 ^same

[Normal]
02:52:941 Move this down 1 and left 1 grid (level 3)rdy

[Hard]
231 second play time... that's getting pretty long, especially with only one break period.yea maybe
04:12:235 [4] This beat feels like it shouldn't be there. The rhythmic phrase off the vocals feels like it should end at [3]. If you want to finish that visual pattern, just steal one from the previous combo's stacks.I follow the claps no vocals (in this part)
thx =)
orioncomet
Just some suggestions.

[General]
- Delete "star.png" and full submit, I think It don't need.

[Easy]
01:45:882 (1) - Try sound finish at begin of silder.
02:29:647 (6) - Try sound finish at last silder.

[Normal]
I guess This diff is [Normal+].
01:45:882 (1) - Try replace whistle with finish.

[Hard]]
And This diff can be [Hard].
01:45:882 (1) - Try sound finish at begin of silder.
03:38:823 (1) - Try replace clap with finish.
03:38:823 (1) - After this.. spam Clap not good, IMO.
04:12:235 (4) - Delete..? I think This diff end at 04:11:999 is better, IMO, and add sound finish.

Starrr ~
Topic Starter
Astom

orioncomet wrote:

Just some suggestions.

[General]
- Delete "star.png" and full submit, I think It don't need. oke

[Easy]
01:45:882 (1) - Try sound finish at begin of silder.rdy
02:29:647 (6) - Try sound finish at last silder.rdy

[Normal]
I guess This diff is [Normal+].rdy
01:45:882 (1) - Try replace whistle with finish.

[Hard]]
And This diff can be [Hard].rdy
01:45:882 (1) - Try sound finish at begin of silder.rdy
03:38:823 (1) - Try replace clap with finish.rdy
03:38:823 (1) - After this.. spam Clap not good, IMO.rdy
04:12:235 (4) - Delete..? I think This diff end at 04:11:999 is better, IMO, and add sound finish.*snif* ok

Starrr ~
^^ thx
Colin Hou
some suggestions :P

[Easy]:
  1. [00:42:117(1)] try to put here a circle and the slider just start at the white line.
  2. a 2 star level but not that easy...
[Normal+]:
  1. [00:51:999(5)] new combo
  2. [02:03:529(4,5,6)] try this:
  3. [02:15:529(8)] put the end at [02:15:999] and remove (9)
  4. [02:16:941(1,2)(4,5)] let them be sliders
  5. [02:22:588(1)] put the end at [02:23:058] and remove (2)
  6. [02:25:411(2)] put the end at [02:25:882] and remove (3)
  7. [02:26:588(6)] put a slider here and end at [02:26:823] (remove 3)
  8. [02:42:117(T)] add a circle here
  9. [03:23:058(5)] new combo
  10. [03:30:352(1)] make sure that the end of (1) can be covered by the end of (2) :P
  11. [03:35:999(1)] consider to increase the volume of the "Finish" sound, i can hardly hear it
[Hard]:
  1. many places same with [Normal+] and don't repeat :)
  2. [01:06:352(7)] replace the circle with a slider that ends at [01:07:058]
  3. [01:11:999(6,7,8)] a slider, maybe better?
  4. [01:40:235(1-8)] make these more like a heart~ :
  5. [03:21:411(10)] new combo
  6. [03:21:882] too short *_* two sliders or circle circle slider might be better
Star~ good luck with it.
Topic Starter
Astom

Colin Hou wrote:

some suggestions :P

[Easy]:
  1. [00:42:117(1)] try to put here a circle and the slider just start at the white line.rdy
  2. a 2 star level but not that easy...it's not my fault xD
[Normal+]:
  1. [00:51:999(5)] new combomm rdy
  2. [02:03:529(4,5,6)] try this:mm nop sry xd
  3. [02:15:529(8)] put the end at [02:15:999] and remove (9)rdy
  4. [02:16:941(1,2)(4,5)] let them be slidersno D:
  5. [02:22:588(1)] put the end at [02:23:058] and remove (2)nup
  6. [02:25:411(2)] put the end at [02:25:882] and remove (3)nup
  7. [02:26:588(6)] put a slider here and end at [02:26:823] (remove 3)rdy
  8. [02:42:117(T)] add a circle here rdy
  9. [03:23:058(5)] new combo rdy
  10. [03:30:352(1)] make sure that the end of (1) can be covered by the end of (2) :Pugh ok
  11. [03:35:999(1)] consider to increase the volume of the "Finish" sound, i can hardly hear itmm
[Hard]:
  1. many places same with [Normal+] and don't repeat :)
  2. [01:06:352(7)] replace the circle with a slider that ends at [01:07:058]^^?
  3. [01:11:999(6,7,8)] a slider, maybe better?mm ok
  4. [01:40:235(1-8)] make these more like a heart~ :mm rdy
  5. [03:21:411(10)] new combordy
  6. [03:21:882] too short *_* two sliders or circle circle slider might be betternaa xD
Star~ good luck with it.
Dusty
I love the cursor :)

The title actually has a period at the end. (It's a little weird :p)

Title: Hartes ciel, melenas walasye.

[Easy]
Well, this map is confusing to me, maybe you do one of three things?

When the overall difficulty is too low, the map actually gets harder... 2, 3, or 4 Overall Difficulty ticks should be a good amount.

Or you could decrease the circle size by 1.

or just increase the spacing D:

[Normal+]
Nice job. <3

[Hard]
<complaint about the spacing> Oh, wait.
Topic Starter
Astom

Dusty wrote:

I love the cursor :) ^^

The title actually has a period at the end. (It's a little weird :p) ok

Title: Hartes ciel, melenas walasye.ok ok xd

[Easy]
Well, this map is confusing to me, maybe you do one of three things?

When the overall difficulty is too low, the map actually gets harder... 2, 3, or 4 Overall Difficulty ticks should be a good amount.ok

Or you could decrease the circle size by 1.nop <.<

or just increase the spacing D: mm no xd

[Normal+]
Nice job. <3 thx

[Hard]
<complaint about the spacing> Oh, wait. lol?
thx :3
Breeze
Only RED part is what I think you should fix, others are just suggestions

[SB]
  1. 01:21:176 - 01:22:588 (section-pass.png) - These time isn't a break time, no need to put section-pass.png in pass layer
    00:00:705 - 00:03:647 (astom.png) - Do some fade better imo
[Skin]
  1. When spin, I can't see where cursor is ._., spinner-circle is a little eye dazling for me
[General]
  1. I got 2 osb.file, delete one please, then full submit
  2. world of love loving people game should not to be a tag imo, they contains too much
[Easy]
  1. Emm, I feel this is too hard for a Easy, notes are fine
  2. Slider Tick Rate : 2 IMO
[Normal+]
  1. Why this difficulty starts at a unusual place ._.
[Hard]
  1. fine
nice map
star
al2e10
By AL2e10's MODMODMOD !!

[Hard]
00:51:529 (4,Start) - Wistle here?
02:43:529 (1) - Remove new combo
02:43:764 (2) - Start new combo
02:44:941 (1) - Remove new cobmo
02:45:176 (2) - Start new combo
02:50:823 (8) - New combo here & remove new combo 02:51:058 (1)
03:17:411 (1) - Remove new combo?
03:21:411 (1) - ^?
03:33:882 (1) - ^?
The last, is too many Clap !!
You can just clap in the weite line

[Normal]
01:06:352 (1) - Remove new combo

[ALL}
That prette good and beautiful for your skin ~~
STAR !!
Topic Starter
Astom

Breeze wrote:

Only RED part is what I think you should fix, others are just suggestions

[SB]
  1. 01:21:176 - 01:22:588 (section-pass.png) - These time isn't a break time, no need to put section-pass.png in pass layerRDY
    00:00:705 - 00:03:647 (astom.png) - Do some fade better imo RDY
[Skin]
  1. When spin, I can't see where cursor is ._., spinner-circle is a little eye dazling for me ... :twisted:
[General]
  1. I got 2 osb.file, delete one please, then full submit RDY
  2. world of love loving people game should not to be a tag imo, they contains too much^^?
[Easy]
  1. Emm, I feel this is too hard for a Easy, notes are fine xDDDD sry i can't make it more easy xd
  2. Slider Tick Rate : 2 IMO rdy
[Normal+]
  1. Why this difficulty starts at a unusual place ._. because finish after of easy? lol I try to keep the same time of duration in easy and normal+
[Hard]
  1. fine
nice map hehe thx
star
Topic Starter
Astom

al2e10 wrote:

By AL2e10's MODMODMOD !!

[Hard]
00:51:529 (4,Start) - Wistle here? mmok
02:43:529 (1) - Remove new combo rdy
02:43:764 (2) - Start new combo rdy
02:44:941 (1) - Remove new cobmo rdy
02:45:176 (2) - Start new combo rdy
02:50:823 (8) - New combo here & remove new combo 02:51:058 (1) rdy
03:17:411 (1) - Remove new combo? mmm nop
03:21:411 (1) - ^?no
03:33:882 (1) - ^?ok
The last, is too many Clap !! xDD okey i fix it
You can just clap in the weite line

[Normal]
01:06:352 (1) - Remove new combo rdy

[ALL}
That prette good and beautiful for your skin ~~
STAR !!
Diasios
[Easy]

  • • Slider Velocity: 120/130
    • Spacing is really bad. Distance spacing: 1,3/1,4

    • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break
[Normal]

  • • Slider Velocity: 130/140
    • Sometimes spacing is weird. Keep always "Distace Snap" active.

    • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break
[Hard]

  • • 01:17:647 (10) - Make this slider more symmetrical
    • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break
Topic Starter
Astom

xxheroxx wrote:

[Easy]

  • • Slider Velocity: 120/130 rdy
    Spacing is really bad. Distance spacing: 1,3/1,4rdy
    • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break rdy
[Normal]

  • • Slider Velocity: 130/140rdy
    Sometimes spacing is weird. Keep always "Distace Snap" active. I fix the problem of spacing, but I don't use "distance snap" because the map becomes very ugly
    • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break rdy
[Hard]

  • • 01:17:647 (10) - Make this slider more symmetrical I made a new one, but it's the best I can do
    • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break rdy rdy
Ignacio_old
Me gusto mucho el mapa =)


Topic Starter
Astom




:roll:

well, this is the last check point, search for PROBLEMS please, all dif are playable, so please, before play and after mod xD
Diasios
Rechecking...

[Easy]

  • • 00:28:235 (1) - Is this a heart? lol. Anyway, the end-slider is partially hidden.
    • 01:40:235 (1) - ^
[Hard]

  • • 02:23:294 (2) - Like ^
Call me again for a pubble.
Topic Starter
Astom

xxheroxx wrote:

Rechecking...

[Easy]

  • • 00:28:235 (1) - Is this a heart? lol. Anyway, the end-slider is partially hidden.
    • 01:40:235 (1) - ^
rdy

[Hard]

  • • 02:23:294 (2) - Like ^
rdy

Call me again for a pubble.
Diasios
Pubbled~
Topic Starter
Astom

xxheroxx wrote:

Pubbled~
thx =)
FishHook
[Easy]
1:27:529 (4) Looking at how a lot of the sliders are curved and have a groovy feel to the pitch of the vocals or syllables. I would suggest making this slider have a little bump in the middle to go with the change in vocal pitch.
Something like this....

1:54:117 I know you mentioned something about your distancing being on purpose, but this suggestion would be nice since its [Easy] difficulty. This part is very similar to 2:27:529. I would suggest decreasing the spacing at the later part or increasing the spacing at the first section so they match. Would be better for the beginner players to catch on to beats and patterns, etc...

[Normal+]
1:48:470 (1)-(9) Looks messy. Maybe give it a little more style like your next combo at 1:51:529 how you have 2 diamonds in between the slider. The third combo has the a nice feel to it too so your first combo doesn't have to be symmetrical.

[Hard]
3:41:647 (1) Nazi spacing here! The first note is slightly, but noticeably closer to the next beat then the rest of the combo. Maybe back that thang out from (2) a smidge so it matches.
3:51:529 (7) Maybe give this slider a little bit of a curve at the end. Give it enough curve and you can match the pattern. Something like this...


Very solid map Astom. The only real change I advice on was the nazi spacing I mentioned. All others were how I felt the flow of the music was like.
+star
Topic Starter
Astom

FishHook wrote:

[Easy]
1:27:529 (4) Looking at how a lot of the sliders are curved and have a groovy feel to the pitch of the vocals or syllables. I would suggest making this slider have a little bump in the middle to go with the change in vocal pitch.
Something like this....
rdy =)
1:54:117 I know you mentioned something about your distancing being on purpose, but this suggestion would be nice since its [Easy] difficulty. This part is very similar to 2:27:529. I would suggest decreasing the spacing at the later part or increasing the spacing at the first section so they match. Would be better for the beginner players to catch on to beats and patterns, etc... I can't do that because i already decrease the spancing and the maps turns very ugly and if I increase distance, the map turns more hard

[Normal+]
1:48:470 (1)-(9) Looks messy. Maybe give it a little more style like your next combo at 1:51:529 how you have 2 diamonds in between the slider. The third combo has the a nice feel to it too so your first combo doesn't have to be symmetrical.rdy

[Hard]
3:41:647 (1) Nazi spacing here! The first note is slightly, but noticeably closer to the next beat then the rest of the combo. Maybe back that thang out from (2) a smidge so it matches. I already know that but is realy small xD but i fix it
3:51:529 (7) Maybe give this slider a little bit of a curve at the end. Give it enough curve and you can match the pattern. Something like this... I don't take this because the song sounds like laaaaa ... and not laa..aaaa .. xD


Very solid map Astom. The only real change I advice on was the nazi spacing I mentioned. All others were how I felt the flow of the music was like.
+star
YGOkid8
IRC Modded. Checking other diffs now...
YGOkid8
Normal+

Combo Mod~
02:50:588 (6) - New Combo.

Hard

Combo Mod~
00:51:529 (1) - No New Combo.
02:06:352 (1) - ^
03:17:411 (1) - ^
---------------------
That's it, no major problems.
Star ~ ☆
Topic Starter
Astom

YGOkid8 wrote:

Normal+

Combo Mod~
02:50:588 (6) - New Combo.

Hard

Combo Mod~
00:51:529 (1) - No New Combo.
02:06:352 (1) - ^
03:17:411 (1) - ^
---------------------
That's it, no major problems.
Star ~ ☆

All rdy, thx
Hamuko
your maps are so magic :3

i like the sliders you make, they are really cool :D

star for you~
Beuchi
Hi hi :)

Here are some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me :P
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Is the "." really needed on the title? If it isn't, delete it?
- Sliderball looks like it's getting crazy, you should make more sliderball frames to make the animation smoother.
- Fix spinner-osu.png, it cuts some parts of the letters.
- Fix scorebar-ki.png, scorebar-kidanger.png and scorebar-kidanger2.png, they have some little red dots around the leaf images.
- Offset 0? It sounds completely off at the beggining o.o'. Though... I can't find a better one so... leave it as it is xD

~Easy~
- Set slider tick rate to 3.

00:13:882 (1) - Add one repeat.

~Normal+~
- Why Normal+? I still don't get why people makes "whateverdiff+". Rename to Hard.
- Why does this diff start later than [Easy] and [Hard]?

~Hard~
- Rename to Insane.

01:45:882 - Kinda non-sense 2xbpm part imo.
02:46:117 (7) - New Combo.
03:38:823 - If there has to be a 2xbpm section, I would put it here oxo.

Nice map :3 *star*
Topic Starter
Astom

Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi hi :)

Here are some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree with me :P
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Is the "." really needed on the title? If it isn't, delete it?Asi es el nombre de la cancion x_x
- Sliderball looks like it's getting crazy, you should make more sliderball frames to make the animation smoother.trabajare en esto
- Fix spinner-osu.png, it cuts some parts of the letters.tambien revisare esto
- Fix scorebar-ki.png, scorebar-kidanger.png and scorebar-kidanger2.png, they have some little red dots around the leaf images.ia lo sabia pero no pense q alguien se diera cuenta xD
- Offset 0? It sounds completely off at the beggining o.o'. Though... I can't find a better one so... leave it as it is xDbueno es una cancion ripeada de un cd orginal asi q no me parece tan extraño

~Easy~
- Set slider tick rate to 3.rdy

00:13:882 (1) - Add one repeat.rdy

~Normal+~
- Why Normal+? I still don't get why people makes "whateverdiff+". Rename to Hard.Sera pq no le alcanza para ser hard
- Why does this diff start later than [Easy] and [Hard]?porque su duracion total es la misma que la de easy

~Hard~
- Rename to Insane. Emm esta dif no me parece insane, de hecho no es muy dificil x3

01:45:882 - Kinda non-sense 2xbpm part imo.lo hice por el kiai time :3
02:46:117 (7) - New Combo. ups, yes
03:38:823 - If there has to be a 2xbpm section, I would put it here oxo.bueno lo puedo agregar aki tambien

Nice map :3 *star*
Rdy
Cyril Scarlet
go go ~ XD
Shulin
Sorry for the delayed recheck!

Easy:

-- Remove "Time X2" SB event from this difficulty.

00:22:588 (1,2,3,4) - Potentially confusing stack/overlap for an Easy. I prefer the way you mapped it at 00:28:235 (1,2,3) -
00:52:235 (2) - Move this up with distance snap so its not under the previous slider?
01:37:411 (1,1) - Imo it would be better if you placed these sliders so they didn't overlap at all.
01:48:470 (1,2,3,4,5) - Potentially confusing stack especially with kiai.

Nice overall, my suggestions are just to try and keep it easy, you can ignore them XD

Normal +:

-- Maybe you should start this at the same place as Easy & Hard (or start Easy in the same place as Normal?)
-- Remove "Time X2" from the SB please (it appears at 03:38:117 when the map has just finished...)

00:49:176 (5) - New combo?
01:36:470 (8) - Bad overlap with 01:36:235 (7) - imo, maybe put 8 in the same place 6 was?

Nice difficulty ^_^

Hard:

02:44:470 (7) - This part of the stream is really hard to hit since its a 1/6 stack after a stream, maybe make it part of the stream? Or maybe delete 02:44:352 (6) - it sounds better imo.
03:21:411 (1) - Delete? (And start spinner earlier?)
03:28:705 (5) - New combo?

Good overall!
Topic Starter
Astom

Shulin wrote:

Sorry for the delayed recheck!

Easy:

-- Remove "Time X2" SB event from this difficulty. ups sry, rdy

00:22:588 (1,2,3,4) - Potentially confusing stack/overlap for an Easy. I prefer the way you mapped it at 00:28:235 (1,2,3) - fixed
00:52:235 (2) - Move this up with distance snap so its not under the previous slider?rdy
01:37:411 (1,1) - Imo it would be better if you placed these sliders so they didn't overlap at all.rdy
01:48:470 (1,2,3,4,5) - Potentially confusing stack especially with kiai.rdy

Nice overall, my suggestions are just to try and keep it easy, you can ignore them XD haha, no i don't ignore u =(

Normal +:

-- Maybe you should start this at the same place as Easy & Hard (or start Easy in the same place as Normal?)I already dice no map first part of the song, sry
-- Remove "Time X2" from the SB please (it appears at 03:38:117 when the map has just finished...)sry for that

00:49:176 (5) - New combo? rdy
01:36:470 (8) - Bad overlap with 01:36:235 (7) - imo, maybe put 8 in the same place 6 was? fixed in another way *-*

Nice difficulty ^_^

Hard:

02:44:470 (7) - This part of the stream is really hard to hit since its a 1/6 stack after a stream, maybe make it part of the stream? Or maybe delete 02:44:352 (6) - it sounds better imo. rdy
03:21:411 (1) - Delete? (And start spinner earlier?) mmm nop x3
03:28:705 (5) - New combo?rdy

Good overall!
THX for u help shulin
NekoHazuki
>8O
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