1. Easy (1,52 stars, 110 notes)
2. Hard (4,47 stars, 573 notes)
3. Normal+ (4,07 stars, 343 notes)

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hello Astom
This song is one of my favorite artonelico series song very nice

[General]
- Change the title and tags just like in Dusty's post and also add game in the tags
- A 4 minutes 36 second song is very long for some people, consider cutting the song.

[Normal]
- Maybe add another hit sound just like you did in hard diff
02:30:588 - 02:53:294 This is a very long break consider mapping this part
03:16:235 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - This stream of spinner is very tiring, try using a combination of spinner and slider instead, remember that the spinner should have minimum of 2000 bonus score in auto play.

[Hard]
Okay the problem that I notice in this diff is practically the same with normal
There are also some nazi issue but I'm not good with nazi, so find someone else you can go to here for help http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewforum.php?f=60 Read the rules carefully

That's all I can help you
Good luck

Sallad4ever wrote:

Yay Re-Check

The stream are much better now, but there are some problem

- Are you sure you didn't cut the song ? cause it's very long IMO
- Okay you still didn't change the tags yet, you should change it. Change the tags into world of love loving people hymnos game and delete the world of love loving people in the title
- Set the preview point at 02:19:058 to do this click Timing--> Set current position as preview point
- The combo is a mess but I'm not good in combo you should post your map in the queue forum

OK that's all I guess keep up the good work

gdeath wrote:

Overall :
Remove this extra .osb file"Haruka Shimotsuki - Hartes ciel, melenas walasye. (World of Love, Loving People) (Astom).osb"
BPM: 114.380
Offset: 11,340(i'm not sure)
dont forget resnap all note
Obviously,the speed of rhythm bemcore faster and faster. you need multi-bpms...
well.i'm not good at measuring the multi timings...so i can't help you more xD

[Normal]
make slidertick decrease to 1.0
00:28:235 (1,2,3) - remove clap.(clap is not suitable for this part.only whistle fit it.of course, you can add clap in some highlight of the music)
00:30:823 (7,1,1) - ^
00:53:647 (1,1,1) - remove clap and add whistle
01:17:647 (1) - make slider end on 01:20:470
00:55:764 (1) - make it end on 00:56:117
00:56:470 (2) - make it end on 00:56:823
02:49:058 (2,3) - remove clap and add whistle
02:50:470 (5) - ^
03:20:470 (1) - too short and too hard for[Normal](you can use this length of spinner on [Hard/Insane],but [Normal/Easy] is unrankable pattern)
change all spinners like this.
04:31:882 (1) - replace the slider with spinner(it'll sound better and looks more beautiful)
04:36:117 (1) - remove whistle and finish.i'd make this spinner totally silence

[Hard]
make sildertick decrease to 1.0
you added too many clap in this dff ;_;
remove some clap and use more soft-whistle : )

Star

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- Resize combo burst it should not exceed 500 pixels width.rdy
-- Cursor is distracting. rdy, new one now :3
-- Find a better BG, it's pretty low res and there are plenty of images out there. rdy
-- The hitcircle overlay looks bad on the sliders.rdy
-- hit100 and hit100k look like the same image...rdy
-- The return arrow on the slider is difficult to see with the pink combo color, imo remove pink combo color and pick another.rdy
-- Take the "[]" out of tags.rdy
-- The spinner is somewhat distracting when you actually spin it.rdy
-- Your strobes are out of sync with the music.rdy
-- I'll come back and check the timing later ~thanks, I'm reviewing this but I need some help =)

First Stage:

-- Remove the countdown.

00:15:529 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:18:352 (1) - ^
00:19:764 (3) - New combo here.
00:28:941 (4,5,6) - Maybe a little too confusing for easy. Reposition 5 imo.this is normal =) not easy
00:51:529 (4) - Confusing change in rhythm for easy because you follow the vocal for the rest of the combo.this is normal =) not easy
00:59:294 (1) - Confusing rhythm ~ same reason as ^this is normal =) not easy
01:01:882 (6) - New combo rdy
01:13:411 (2) - Same about the rhythm change. this is normal =) not easy
01:17:647 (1) - Confusing slider, redraw it the you can't see one of the swirls.rdy
01:24:705 -- Unused timing section
01:31:058 ^ etc etc go delete everything that isn't used after the difficulty is finished.

Second Stage:

-- I'm confused why does this start later than Easy? Actually... why does this start where Easy left off?because the song is too long, I already mapped the full song tree times (normal, hard, insane) but I decide make this in 3 shoot because have people with complaints
-- Remove the countdown.rdy
-- Delete the unused inheriting sections before the map starts.rdy
-- Need a skip button at the end.??
-- Preview point is different to the others.rdy

01:30:352 (1) - Ninja spinner is a bit annoying, spinner so fast makes the next note hard to see.try now with the new skin

Not bad, some of the new combo spam is a little unnecessary. thx =)

Final Stage:

-- Hm, so now I get the play the last part of the song...yea xD
-- + 1 on circle size imo. rdy
-- Minus 1 on the hp drain. rdy

02:47:647 -- Weird gaps in the song, I just watch the HP bar drain.
02:50:470 ^

Well I understand why you'd want to split up a very long song but into 3 different difficulties but I'm not sure if its a great idea. Well that's all for now I'll come back and star later

Astom wrote:

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- Resize combo burst it should not exceed 500 pixels width.rdy
-- Cursor is distracting. rdy, new one now :3
-- Find a better BG, it's pretty low res and there are plenty of images out there. rdy
-- The hitcircle overlay looks bad on the sliders.rdy
-- hit100 and hit100k look like the same image...rdy
-- The return arrow on the slider is difficult to see with the pink combo color, imo remove pink combo color and pick another.rdy
-- Take the "[]" out of tags.rdy
-- The spinner is somewhat distracting when you actually spin it.rdy
-- Your strobes are out of sync with the music.rdy
-- I'll come back and check the timing later ~thanks, I'm reviewing this but I need some help =)

First Stage:

-- Remove the countdown.

00:15:529 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:18:352 (1) - ^
00:19:764 (3) - New combo here.
00:28:941 (4,5,6) - Maybe a little too confusing for easy. Reposition 5 imo.this is normal =) not easy
00:51:529 (4) - Confusing change in rhythm for easy because you follow the vocal for the rest of the combo.this is normal =) not easy
00:59:294 (1) - Confusing rhythm ~ same reason as ^this is normal =) not easy
01:01:882 (6) - New combo rdy
01:13:411 (2) - Same about the rhythm change. this is normal =) not easy
01:17:647 (1) - Confusing slider, redraw it the you can't see one of the swirls.rdy
01:24:705 -- Unused timing section
01:31:058 ^ etc etc go delete everything that isn't used after the difficulty is finished.

Second Stage:

-- I'm confused why does this start later than Easy? Actually... why does this start where Easy left off?because the song is too long, I already mapped the full song tree times (normal, hard, insane) but I decide make this in 3 shoot because have people with complaints
-- Remove the countdown.rdy
-- Delete the unused inheriting sections before the map starts.rdy
-- Need a skip button at the end.??
-- Preview point is different to the others.rdy

01:30:352 (1) - Ninja spinner is a bit annoying, spinner so fast makes the next note hard to see.try now with the new skin

Not bad, some of the new combo spam is a little unnecessary. thx =)

Final Stage:

-- Hm, so now I get the play the last part of the song...yea xD
-- + 1 on circle size imo. rdy
-- Minus 1 on the hp drain. rdy

02:47:647 -- Weird gaps in the song, I just watch the HP bar drain.
02:50:470 ^

Well I understand why you'd want to split up a very long song but into 3 different difficulties but I'm not sure if its a great idea. Well that's all for now I'll come back and star later

Well, there is still a reason to separate the song, at the end of this there are several changes of BPM, therefore, I prefer this section only in insane.

If u can help me with the changes in BPM I really would be grateful

Sushi971 wrote:

consider make hitsounds louder (just a little)

[Second stage]
02:04:941 (8) - finish 1/3 beat later, sounds better imordy

[Final Stage]
02:41:882 (x) - Here,rdy
02:42:588 (x) - here,rdy
02:43:294 (x) - here,rdy
02:44:235 (x) - and here, it feels like there's a note missing. the player can bue confused as he doesnt really know what part of the music the streams are based on.rdy
04:15:726 (2) - put on 1/3rdy
04:22:305 (1) - unsnapped??
04:26:715 (7) - ^??

the song is <3

Shulin wrote:

Copy paste into timing points in notepad:

11300.8182773109,705.882352941176,4,2,0,26,1,0
252715.684210526,631.578947368421,4,2,0,26,1,0
257737,582.52427184466,4,2,0,26,1,0
260067,606.060606060606,4,2,0,26,1,0
262520.504672897,560.747663551402,4,2,0,100,1,0
266977,495.867768595041,4,2,0,100,1,0
268962,689.655172413793,4,2,0,100,1,0
271950,689.655172413793,4,2,0,100,1,0
276127.384615385,461.538461538462,4,2,0,100,1,0

This is by no means perfect, timing dynamic bpm isn't easy, but this timing should allow you to map it (imo just don't map the end it would be a lot easier ~) but imo you should pick one part of the song and map three difficulties for it like xxheroxx and Sushi have already said, that way you could skip the end.

Anyway I'll recheck the rest later.

• 01:25:882 (8) New combo
  02:29:647 (10) Not a good idea in a Normal
  02:44:941 (8) New combo
  03:07:058 (6) Spacing

sonnyc wrote:

Hi

Normal

• 01:25:882 (8) New combo rdy
  02:29:647 (10) Not a good idea in a Normal mm ok, rdy
  02:44:941 (8) New combo rdy
  03:07:058 (6) Spacingrdy

Star

Shulin wrote:

Sorry for the delay.

General:

-- Add an Easier difficulty (3.5 stars or under) since this is a relaxing song it should be easy to make ^^mm ok
-- The skin is looking much better now.thx
-- Delete the SB when the map has finished.ok

Normal:

-- There are quite a few overlaps, maybe change the direction of some combo's so they overlap less.ok

00:47:294 (9,1) - Spacing?I did it on purpose, but I can change it
01:00:235 (2,3,4,5) - Slightly confusing maybe rearrange them so they are not all clustered around the slider?rdy
01:04:941 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Spacing? Compare with 01:01:882 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - made on purpose, but no problems in change it
01:14:117 (3,4,5,6) - Maybe move this in a different direction to minimise overlap?mmm ok

Insane:

-- Maybe increase the circle size?ok and rdy
-- Well... this really isn't insane imo it doesn't flow as well as normal, I'd reccommend using bigger circlesand spreading this out a bit more and the score really comes from the length and absence of lots of sliders. Actually Normal would proibably suffice as you easiest difficulty but it's up to you ^^I change it to Hard+, and yea I make a review en the sliders

00:11:294 (2) - Move this from under the slider?rdy
00:30:117 (8,1,2,3,4) - These overlaps don't look so great, spread those sliders out a little?mm rdy
01:17:647 (10) - You could try and make this symmetrical if you wanted to XDI try but it's hard to do hahaha xD
01:23:647 (2,3,4) - Way too confusing respace this please.rdy
01:25:764 (1,2,3) - Doesn't fit the music. i follow a instrument :3 listen again
01:26:117 (4) - Weird jump.rdy
01:45:882 -- You may need a x2 warning here.ok
02:05:411 (1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1) - The new combos aren't really necessary here.rdy
02:07:764 (1) - Reshape? naa xD
02:11:294 (1) - Remove new combo. rdy
02:16:941 (1) - ^ rdy
02:29:411 (9) - Confusing shape.rdy

fixed... I haven't problems with this but i change it
02:41:882 (1,2,3,4,5) - These 1/6 streams don't fit that well imo. Also add some hitsounds if you want to keep it because its hard to follow with the low volume soft (maybe increase the audio volume?)
02:43:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
02:47:999 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - ^ The spacing is probably too close to.
02:49:647 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ Same thing remember add hitsounds.

03:21:176 (1) - Remove new combo.rdy
03:21:411 (2) - Delete? naa, i like the "la la" xDD

That's all for now, there's still a bit more modding to be done here so make sure to ask for more opinions but I can see you've put effort into remapping this so here's a star thx =)

Garven wrote:

[Easy]
00:48:705 This slider sticks out from all the other sliders. Try to smooth the curve out a bit.mmm.. rdy
01:28:941 This spinner's end feels really close to the next set of notes for an easy mode, though there doesn't feel like there's a better place for it. Maybe just map some more regular beats in place of this spinner.I consider it, but I don't think there will be a problem
02:11:294 ^same

[Normal]
02:52:941 Move this down 1 and left 1 grid (level 3)rdy

[Hard]
231 second play time... that's getting pretty long, especially with only one break period.yea maybe
04:12:235 [4] This beat feels like it shouldn't be there. The rhythmic phrase off the vocals feels like it should end at [3]. If you want to finish that visual pattern, just steal one from the previous combo's stacks.I follow the claps no vocals (in this part)

orioncomet wrote:

Just some suggestions.

[General]
- Delete "star.png" and full submit, I think It don't need. oke

[Easy]
01:45:882 (1) - Try sound finish at begin of silder.rdy
02:29:647 (6) - Try sound finish at last silder.rdy

[Normal]
I guess This diff is [Normal+].rdy
01:45:882 (1) - Try replace whistle with finish.

[Hard]]
And This diff can be [Hard].rdy
01:45:882 (1) - Try sound finish at begin of silder.rdy
03:38:823 (1) - Try replace clap with finish.rdy
03:38:823 (1) - After this.. spam Clap not good, IMO.rdy
04:12:235 (4) - Delete..? I think This diff end at 04:11:999 is better, IMO, and add sound finish.*snif* ok

Starrr ~

1. [00:42:117(1)] try to put here a circle and the slider just start at the white line.
2. a 2 star level but not that easy...

1. [00:51:999(5)] new combo
2. [02:03:529(4,5,6)] try this:
   
3. [02:15:529(8)] put the end at [02:15:999] and remove (9)
4. [02:16:941(1,2)(4,5)] let them be sliders
5. [02:22:588(1)] put the end at [02:23:058] and remove (2)
6. [02:25:411(2)] put the end at [02:25:882] and remove (3)
7. [02:26:588(6)] put a slider here and end at [02:26:823] (remove 3)
8. [02:42:117(T)] add a circle here
9. [03:23:058(5)] new combo
10. [03:30:352(1)] make sure that the end of (1) can be covered by the end of (2) :P
11. [03:35:999(1)] consider to increase the volume of the "Finish" sound, i can hardly hear it

1. many places same with [Normal+] and don't repeat :)
2. [01:06:352(7)] replace the circle with a slider that ends at [01:07:058]
3. [01:11:999(6,7,8)] a slider, maybe better?
4. [01:40:235(1-8)] make these more like a heart~ :
5. [03:21:411(10)] new combo
6. [03:21:882] too short *_* two sliders or circle circle slider might be better

Colin Hou wrote:

some suggestions

[Easy]:

1. [00:42:117(1)] try to put here a circle and the slider just start at the white line.rdy
2. a 2 star level but not that easy...it's not my fault xD

[Normal+]:

1. [00:51:999(5)] new combomm rdy
2. [02:03:529(4,5,6)] try this:mm nop sry xd
   
3. [02:15:529(8)] put the end at [02:15:999] and remove (9)rdy
4. [02:16:941(1,2)(4,5)] let them be slidersno D:
5. [02:22:588(1)] put the end at [02:23:058] and remove (2)nup
6. [02:25:411(2)] put the end at [02:25:882] and remove (3)nup
7. [02:26:588(6)] put a slider here and end at [02:26:823] (remove 3)rdy
8. [02:42:117(T)] add a circle here rdy
9. [03:23:058(5)] new combo rdy
10. [03:30:352(1)] make sure that the end of (1) can be covered by the end of (2) ugh ok
11. [03:35:999(1)] consider to increase the volume of the "Finish" sound, i can hardly hear itmm

[Hard]:

1. many places same with [Normal+] and don't repeat
2. [01:06:352(7)] replace the circle with a slider that ends at [01:07:058]^^?
3. [01:11:999(6,7,8)] a slider, maybe better?mm ok
4. [01:40:235(1-8)] make these more like a heart~ :mm rdy
5. [03:21:411(10)] new combordy
6. [03:21:882] too short *_* two sliders or circle circle slider might be betternaa xD

Star~ good luck with it.

Dusty wrote:

I love the cursor ^^

The title actually has a period at the end. (It's a little weird :p) ok

Title: Hartes ciel, melenas walasye.ok ok xd

[Easy]
Well, this map is confusing to me, maybe you do one of three things?

When the overall difficulty is too low, the map actually gets harder... 2, 3, or 4 Overall Difficulty ticks should be a good amount.ok

Or you could decrease the circle size by 1.nop <.<

or just increase the spacing D: mm no xd

[Normal+]
Nice job. <3 thx

[Hard]
<complaint about the spacing> Oh, wait. lol?

1. 01:21:176 - 01:22:588 (section-pass.png) - These time isn't a break time, no need to put section-pass.png in pass layer
   00:00:705 - 00:03:647 (astom.png) - Do some fade better imo

1. When spin, I can't see where cursor is ._., spinner-circle is a little eye dazling for me

1. I got 2 osb.file, delete one please, then full submit
2. world of love loving people game should not to be a tag imo, they contains too much

1. Emm, I feel this is too hard for a Easy, notes are fine
2. Slider Tick Rate : 2 IMO

1. Why this difficulty starts at a unusual place ._.

1. fine

Breeze wrote:

Only RED part is what I think you should fix, others are just suggestions

[SB]

1. 01:21:176 - 01:22:588 (section-pass.png) - These time isn't a break time, no need to put section-pass.png in pass layerRDY
   00:00:705 - 00:03:647 (astom.png) - Do some fade better imo RDY

[Skin]

1. When spin, I can't see where cursor is ._., spinner-circle is a little eye dazling for me ...

[General]

1. I got 2 osb.file, delete one please, then full submit RDY
2. world of love loving people game should not to be a tag imo, they contains too much^^?

[Easy]

1. Emm, I feel this is too hard for a Easy, notes are fine xDDDD sry i can't make it more easy xd
2. Slider Tick Rate : 2 IMO rdy

[Normal+]

1. Why this difficulty starts at a unusual place ._. because finish after of easy? lol I try to keep the same time of duration in easy and normal+

[Hard]

1. fine

nice map hehe thx
star

al2e10 wrote:

By AL2e10's MODMODMOD !!

[Hard]
00:51:529 (4,Start) - Wistle here? mmok
02:43:529 (1) - Remove new combo rdy
02:43:764 (2) - Start new combo rdy
02:44:941 (1) - Remove new cobmo rdy
02:45:176 (2) - Start new combo rdy
02:50:823 (8) - New combo here & remove new combo 02:51:058 (1) rdy
03:17:411 (1) - Remove new combo? mmm nop
03:21:411 (1) - ^?no
03:33:882 (1) - ^?ok
The last, is too many Clap !! xDD okey i fix it
You can just clap in the weite line

[Normal]
01:06:352 (1) - Remove new combo rdy

[ALL}
That prette good and beautiful for your skin ~~
STAR !!

• • Slider Velocity: 120/130
  • Spacing is really bad. Distance spacing: 1,3/1,4
  • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break

• • Slider Velocity: 130/140
  • Sometimes spacing is weird. Keep always "Distace Snap" active.
  • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break

• • 01:17:647 (10) - Make this slider more symmetrical
  • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break

xxheroxx wrote:

[Easy]

• • Slider Velocity: 120/130 rdy
  • Spacing is really bad. Distance spacing: 1,3/1,4rdy
  • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break rdy

[Normal]

• • Slider Velocity: 130/140rdy
  • Sometimes spacing is weird. Keep always "Distace Snap" active. I fix the problem of spacing, but I don't use "distance snap" because the map becomes very ugly
  • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break rdy

[Hard]

• • 01:17:647 (10) - Make this slider more symmetrical I made a new one, but it's the best I can do
  • 01:20:705 (x) - Add a break rdy rdy

• • 00:28:235 (1) - Is this a heart? lol. Anyway, the end-slider is partially hidden.
  • 01:40:235 (1) - ^

• • 02:23:294 (2) - Like ^

xxheroxx wrote:

Rechecking...

[Easy]

• • 00:28:235 (1) - Is this a heart? lol. Anyway, the end-slider is partially hidden.
  • 01:40:235 (1) - ^

rdy

[Hard]

• • 02:23:294 (2) - Like ^

rdy

Call me again for a pubble.

xxheroxx wrote:

Pubbled~

FishHook wrote:

[Easy]
1:27:529 (4) Looking at how a lot of the sliders are curved and have a groovy feel to the pitch of the vocals or syllables. I would suggest making this slider have a little bump in the middle to go with the change in vocal pitch.
Something like this....
rdy =)
1:54:117 I know you mentioned something about your distancing being on purpose, but this suggestion would be nice since its [Easy] difficulty. This part is very similar to 2:27:529. I would suggest decreasing the spacing at the later part or increasing the spacing at the first section so they match. Would be better for the beginner players to catch on to beats and patterns, etc... I can't do that because i already decrease the spancing and the maps turns very ugly and if I increase distance, the map turns more hard

[Normal+]
1:48:470 (1)-(9) Looks messy. Maybe give it a little more style like your next combo at 1:51:529 how you have 2 diamonds in between the slider. The third combo has the a nice feel to it too so your first combo doesn't have to be symmetrical.rdy

[Hard]
3:41:647 (1) Nazi spacing here! The first note is slightly, but noticeably closer to the next beat then the rest of the combo. Maybe back that thang out from (2) a smidge so it matches. I already know that but is realy small xD but i fix it
3:51:529 (7) Maybe give this slider a little bit of a curve at the end. Give it enough curve and you can match the pattern. Something like this... I don't take this because the song sounds like laaaaa ... and not laa..aaaa .. xD


Very solid map Astom. The only real change I advice on was the nazi spacing I mentioned. All others were how I felt the flow of the music was like.
+star

YGOkid8 wrote:

Normal+

Combo Mod~
02:50:588 (6) - New Combo.

Hard

Combo Mod~
00:51:529 (1) - No New Combo.
02:06:352 (1) - ^
03:17:411 (1) - ^
---------------------
That's it, no major problems.
Star ~ ☆