19:30 Xakyrie: : gonna try and understand the mapper a bit
19:30 Xakyrie: : first off
19:30 Xakyrie: : I noticed (well I think it's sort of strange) a constant clockwise movement
19:30 Xakyrie: : it's like, really repetitiv
19:30 Xakyrie: : e
19:30 Xakyrie: : asdf
19:30 Xakyrie: : just scroll through it and you'll see
19:30 Fiya: : that
19:30 Xakyrie: : that's the thing about mapping easys symmetrically
19:31 Fiya: : was not intentional
19:31 Fiya: : orz
19:31 Xakyrie: : xD I know, I know
19:31 Xakyrie: : I'm not gonna be like
19:31 Xakyrie: : GO REMAP THIS PIECE OF SHIT
19:31 Xakyrie: : because 1, it is not
19:31 Fiya: : lmao
19:32 Xakyrie: : and 2, it's fine for your first
19:32 Xakyrie: : xD
19:32 Xakyrie: : just be aware in the future :3
19:32 Fiya: : yea
19:32 Fiya: : I just
19:32 Fiya: : wasn't really thinking about it
19:32 Fiya: : was concentrating more on
19:32 Fiya: : making sliders that I don't normally use
19:32 Fiya: : that don't look like shit
19:32 Xakyrie: : haha it's fine, they look really good for the most part
19:32 Fiya: : and not making it hard
19:32 Fiya: : xD
19:33 Fiya: : but
19:33 Fiya: : that is good advice
19:33 Fiya: : cuz
19:33 Fiya: : I never even thought of that
19:34 Xakyrie: : :3
19:34 Xakyrie: : just making sure \o/
19:35 Fiya: : I also don't normally map symetrical though
19:35 Fiya: : xD
19:35 Fiya: : but anyway
19:35 Fiya: : I'll remember that
19:35 Xakyrie: : symmetrical is best for easys o:
19:36 Xakyrie: : it's pretty and it's easier to read than flowy maps for nubs
19:36 Xakyrie: : anyways
19:36 Fiya: : ^ that is what I was thinking
19:36 Xakyrie: : :3
19:36 Xakyrie: : glad you agree \o/
19:36 Fiya: : it's much easier to predict
19:36 Fiya: : orz
19:37 Xakyrie: : mhmm! ^^
19:37 Xakyrie: : I find aesthetically pleasing maps (for easier diffs mostly) fun to play
19:38 Xakyrie: : btw what's with the DS
19:38 Xakyrie: : o.o
19:38 Fiya: : what
19:38 Fiya: : o.o
19:38 Fiya: : OH
19:38 Xakyrie: : :3
19:38 Xakyrie: : btw I'm going to like
19:38 Xakyrie: : literally
19:38 Xakyrie: : pick at everything
19:38 Xakyrie: : since it won't be worth much kudos I'd think
19:38 Xakyrie: : 1 diff mod = no kudosu
19:38 Fiya: : lol
19:38 Fiya: : the DS is
19:38 Fiya: : fur followpoints
19:38 Xakyrie: : I see o.o
19:39 Xakyrie: : anyways, the first slider
19:39 Fiya: : if you look at the space
19:39 Xakyrie: : oh I see it now
19:39 Fiya: : it's always one perfect point
19:39 Fiya: : xD
19:39 Xakyrie: : it really makes that much of a difference o_o
19:39 Fiya: : except when I broke it a little
19:39 Fiya: : it does
19:39 Fiya: : orz
19:40 Fiya: : that's why
19:40 Fiya: : the sv is 1.02
19:40 Fiya: : as well
19:41 Xakyrie: : o_o that's really exact xD
19:41 Fiya: : I have no life okay
19:41 Fiya: : xD
19:41 Xakyrie: : :>
19:41 Xakyrie: : makes for better maps
19:41 Xakyrie: : :D
19:42 Fiya: : plus my followpoints look bad if you mess them up
19:42 Fiya: : orz
19:42 Fiya: : anyway
19:42 Fiya: : there are
19:43 Fiya: : probably things that more people will notice
19:43 Fiya: : that are more important
19:43 Fiya: : xD
19:43 Xakyrie: : that's the point of modding after all =3= up to you how detailed you get with it
19:44 Fiya: : I'm okay with detailed
19:44 Fiya: : xD
19:47 Xakyrie: : mmkay so, for your first slider, I think it would be better to make it more rounded and clean first off, but more so
19:47 Xakyrie: :  flipping it helps it flow into the next slider nicely
19:48 Xakyrie: : 00:01:630 (2) - I moved this in order to blanket, but you can easily manipulate the placement of (1) to fit it 
19:48 Xakyrie: : where it used to be, here's a screenshot: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/383367
19:51 Fiya: : right, instead of it dropping at the end and then making you move up, even if visually
19:52 Xakyrie: : o_ob
19:52 Fiya: : I understand how flow works, just forget about it a lot
19:52 Fiya: : xD
19:53 Xakyrie: : lol don't even question me with flow
19:53 Xakyrie: : apparently I know nothing of it
19:53 Xakyrie: : true story
19:53 Xakyrie: : O_ob
19:53 Fiya: : lolwat
19:53 Xakyrie: : yup
19:53 Fiya: : everything you just said right there
19:53 Fiya: : was flow in words
19:53 Xakyrie: : o_o;
19:53 Xakyrie: : dunno, Mark told me I knew nothing of it
19:53 Xakyrie: : so \o/
19:53 Fiya: : lol
19:53 Fiya: : xD
19:53 Xakyrie: : anyways =3= so in order to keep going, what did you do o:
19:54 Fiya: : I did flip it
19:54 Fiya: : I'm not sure I wanna change the way it looks though
19:54 Xakyrie: : that's fine, it's your map :3
19:54 Fiya: : cuz I kinda like that, and I wanted to use all kinds of things I'd never done before
19:54 Fiya: : \o\
19:54 Xakyrie: : \o/
19:55 Xakyrie: : 00:06:536 - wouldn't it be nice to keep consistent and have a 1/1 slider here
19:55 Xakyrie: : ending on 00:06:913 (1) - instead
19:55 Xakyrie: : unless you're looking for symmetry, not sure how good it'll be if you use a slider
19:56 Fiya: : that was why I didn't use one
19:56 Xakyrie: : I see I see ~
19:56 Xakyrie: : moving on then
19:57 Xakyrie: : 00:09:932 (1,2,3) - nice way of lowering difficulty and using climaxity to your advantage
19:57 Xakyrie: : wrong word but yeah whatever you know what I mena
19:57 Xakyrie: : mean
19:57 Xakyrie: : aiohff
19:57 Xakyrie: : ep[rgs
19:58 Fiya: : lol
19:58 Fiya: : I know what you mean
19:58 Fiya: : since I didn't use a lot of circles
19:58 Fiya: : it feels more like a climax
19:58 Xakyrie: : o_ob
19:58 Fiya: : and essentially it is leading into a climax
19:58 Fiya: : so yea
19:59 Xakyrie: : 00:31:819 (1) - for this, do you think it's possible to deepen the curve or something so the end doesn't go so 
19:59 Xakyrie: : close to the middle
19:59 Xakyrie: : again with the whole cursor movement thing
20:00 Fiya: : I could deepen it easily, but it already looks a little akward curving around the previous slider without blanketing imo
20:01 Fiya: : hmm
20:01 Fiya: : 'actually
20:01 Fiya: : I guess it wouldn't matter
20:02 Fiya: : so
20:02 Xakyrie: : alright then o:
20:02 Fiya: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/383376 like that you mean?
20:03 Xakyrie: : sort of, or you can flip the end like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/383375
20:03 Xakyrie: : not sure how that would affect next section though
20:03 Fiya: : I was
20:03 Fiya: : about to show that
20:03 Fiya: : but
20:03 Fiya: : screenshotting too fast
20:04 Fiya: : and puush is being retarded
20:04 Xakyrie: : haha
20:04 Xakyrie: : puush is always retarded when you need it
20:05 Fiya: : no kidding
20:05 Fiya: : :/
20:05 Fiya: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/383381 visually it flows better, whether it plays easier or not
20:06 Xakyrie: : =3= yup, either way it's up to you what you want to do ~
20:06 Fiya: : but since I moved the red anchor it doesn't look that bad with the one before it either
20:06 Fiya: : so I'll do that
20:07 Xakyrie: : 00:39:366 (2,3) - nazi: for left move middle 1 down 1 right, vice versa for other
20:08 Xakyrie: : 00:37:102 (3,1) - I guess it would be strange to try and blanket this so no worries ther
20:08 Xakyrie: : 00:46:913 (1) - this is awesome
20:08 Fiya: : xD
20:09 Fiya: : for
20:09 Xakyrie: : 00:50:687 (1) - however from that slider to here I fear might be hard to read since the repeat is so close
20:09 Fiya: : 00:39:366 (2,3) - 
20:09 Xakyrie: : o.o
20:09 Xakyrie: : yup
20:09 Fiya: : if I do what you said the slidder overlap
20:09 Fiya: : lol
20:09 Xakyrie: : wait
20:09 Xakyrie: : wut
20:09 Xakyrie: : o_o
20:09 Fiya: : unless
20:09 Fiya: : you meant anchors
20:10 Xakyrie: : the middle anchor o.o should be grey
20:10 Fiya: : derp
20:10 Fiya: : thought
20:10 Fiya: : you meant left slider moving towards middle
20:10 Fiya: : xD
20:10 Xakyrie: : oh xD nope >w<
20:11 Fiya: : and 
20:11 Fiya: : I know what you mean
20:11 Fiya: : with the offbeat repeat slider
20:11 Fiya: : not sure
20:11 Fiya: : how to place it otherwise though
20:12 Fiya: : unless
20:12 Fiya: : I just
20:12 Fiya: : move the ending
20:12 Fiya: : on it
20:12 Xakyrie: : yeah that would be fine
20:12 Xakyrie: : you could flick the end up
20:13 Fiya: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/383383
20:13 Fiya: : is what I meant
20:13 Fiya: : lol
20:13 Xakyrie: : yeah like that
20:13 Xakyrie: : D:
20:13 Xakyrie: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/383384 that's what I had
20:13 Xakyrie: : same thing
20:13 Xakyrie: : anyways
20:13 Xakyrie: : 00:52:196 (2) - this slider
20:14 Xakyrie: : flows better if you change direction
20:14 Xakyrie: : into the next slider
20:14 Xakyrie: : o:
20:14 Fiya: : yes
20:14 Fiya: : xD
20:14 Fiya: : it was break flow
20:14 Xakyrie: : wooooo break flow
20:14  *Xakyrie breakdances
20:14 Fiya: : lolol
20:14 Fiya: : did it because
20:14 Fiya: : that section is different from the rest
20:15 Xakyrie: : I see I see =3=
20:15 Xakyrie: : 00:55:215 (2) - are you missing a clap here
20:15 Xakyrie: : D:
20:15 Xakyrie: : or a hitsound
20:15 Xakyrie: : or something
20:15 Fiya: : no I'm not
20:15 Fiya: : o.o
20:15 Xakyrie: : feels strange to not have one
20:15 Fiya: : slider start is clap
20:15 Fiya: : end is whistle
20:15 Xakyrie: : oh wtf
20:15 Xakyrie: : excuse me my bad
20:15 Fiya: : xD
20:15 Xakyrie: : stupid slider
20:16 Xakyrie: : no wonder
20:16 Xakyrie: : I was like
20:16 Xakyrie: : HMMM
20:16 Xakyrie: : SOMETHING'S DEFINITELY WRONG HERE
20:16 Fiya: : I'm not that inconsistant
20:16 Fiya: : derp
20:17 Xakyrie: : inconsistent*
20:17 Xakyrie: : derp
20:17 Fiya: : poot you
20:17 Fiya: : that's 4 times
20:17 Fiya: : fuck my grammer
20:17 Xakyrie: : :>
20:18 Fiya: : spelling*
20:18 Xakyrie: : huurr
20:18 Xakyrie: : lololol
20:18 Fiya: : also
20:18 Fiya: : 01:02:762 (1,2,3) - 
20:18 Fiya: : fixed derp spacing
20:18 Xakyrie: : 01:00:121 (2,1) - anyways, I think the distance/timing between this note and the spinner is a bit too quick for an
20:18 Xakyrie: :  easy...maybe place spinner where (2) is? and it was derp? o_o
20:19 Xakyrie: : hmm maybe I fixed it when trying out the flow thing
20:19 Xakyrie: : well glad you noticed it then
20:19 Xakyrie: : :3
20:19 Fiya: : you can't miss the start of a spinner
20:19 Fiya: : so I wasn't worried about it
20:19 Fiya: : lol
20:19 Fiya: : even if it does happen a little fast
20:19 Fiya: : there's more than enough time to react
20:20 Fiya: : wether you are new or not P:
20:20 Fiya: : especially with OD so low
20:20 Fiya: : lol
20:20 Xakyrie: : true I guess... feels strange going into it though
20:20 Fiya: : I guess
20:20 Fiya: : I wanted
20:20 Fiya: : 01:00:121 - hit
20:20 Xakyrie: : since spacing between (1) and (2) is 1/1 and this is 1/2 :v but it's okay if you don't want to change
20:20 Fiya: : 01:00:309 - hit
20:21 Fiya: : but I couldn't do that
20:21 Fiya: : so I stuck a spinner on the second one
20:21 Fiya: : idk
20:21 Xakyrie: : or 
20:21 Xakyrie: : you could try...
20:22 Fiya: : both spots feels wierd for spinner
20:22 Fiya: : xD
20:22 Xakyrie: : 00:58:988 - start spinner here?
20:22 Fiya: : isn't that a little long though?
20:22 Fiya: : orz
20:22 Xakyrie: : 01:01:630 - end here
20:22 Xakyrie: : o.o
20:22 Xakyrie: : it's kind of strange to end a spinner on a downbeat
20:22 Xakyrie: : since technically you should be hitting a note there
20:22 Xakyrie: : D:
20:22 Fiya: : not to me o.o
20:22 Fiya: : the end of a spinner is a note to me
20:22 Fiya: : :o
20:23 Xakyrie: : alright then =3=
20:23 Fiya: : because
20:23 Fiya: : you build up all that energy during spinning
20:23 Fiya: : xD
20:24 Fiya: : the end of the spinner should be a climax of that energy
20:24 Fiya: : and then you go into whatever is next
20:24 Xakyrie: : good reasoning , that's fine xD makes a lot of sense
20:24 Fiya: : I did
20:24 Fiya: : 01:00:498 - move the start to there
20:25 Fiya: : still feels a little wierd, but it is easier to see IU guess
20:25 Fiya: : no not IU Zach this is Duca
20:25 Fiya: : e.e
20:26 Xakyrie: : o_o
20:26 Xakyrie: : loooooooooool
20:27 Xakyrie: : 01:12:196 (3) - this is a big no no
20:27  *Xakyrie cries
20:27 Xakyrie: : sad but yes
20:27 Xakyrie: : it's a no go
20:27 Fiya: : ahaha
20:27 Fiya: : okay
20:27 Xakyrie: : :<
20:27 Fiya: : I can change that
20:27 Fiya: : xD
20:27 Xakyrie: : slider track aint visible is why, yes I'm sure you can replace it with another awesome slider
20:27 Fiya: : that's what experimenting is for P:
20:27 Xakyrie: : yup!
20:28 Xakyrie: : 01:17:102 (1) - ohoho lone slider I see
20:28 Xakyrie: : 01:20:121 (1,2) - would you like to make these more smooth at the red anchor points? there's a trick to it
20:29 Fiya: : sec
20:29 Fiya: : I'm
20:29 Fiya: : still fixing that other slider
20:30 Xakyrie: : yup yup, just pointing stuff out
20:30 Xakyrie: : I know it'll take a bit
20:30 Xakyrie: : xD
20:32 Fiya: : http://puu.sh/M1Af
20:32 Fiya: : O.o
20:32 Fiya: : not sure if want
20:32 Fiya: : xD
20:34 Xakyrie: : lmfao
20:34 Xakyrie: : that's amazing
20:34 Xakyrie: : xD
20:34 Fiya: : it looks
20:34 Fiya: : funky
20:34 Fiya: : xD
20:34 Xakyrie: : wouldn't fit this song but omg it would be soooo funny to put in like
20:34 Xakyrie: : a dubstep map
20:35 Fiya: : derp
20:35 Fiya: : how's
20:35 Fiya: : http://puu.sh/M1C4
20:35 Xakyrie: : looks good :3
20:35 Fiya: : I'll keep that for now then
20:35 Fiya: : xD
20:36 Fiya: : and
20:36 Fiya: : wtf
20:36 Fiya: : how did I not see that love slider
20:36 Xakyrie: : love slider? o.o
20:36 Fiya: : lone
20:36 Xakyrie: : you mean lone slider?
20:36 Xakyrie: : LOL
20:36 Fiya: : xD
20:36 Xakyrie: : ahaha
20:36 Fiya: : how  the hell
20:36 Fiya: : did I not notice that
20:36 Fiya: : Orz
20:37 Xakyrie: : orz(
20:37 Xakyrie: : ..
20:37 Xakyrie: : wow wtf is going up his butt
20:37 Xakyrie: : that looks
20:37 Xakyrie: : so wrong...
20:37 Xakyrie: : x~x
20:37 Fiya: : lmao
20:37 Xakyrie: : so how do we fix the lone slider issue
20:38 Xakyrie: : I would suggest a slider straight down but then you'd have to fix the next patter
20:38 Xakyrie: : n
20:38 Fiya: : lolwat no
20:38 Fiya: : http://puu.sh/M1F3
20:38 Fiya: : xD
20:39 Xakyrie: : ggg
20:39 Xakyrie: : wwoooow
20:39 Xakyrie: : didn't even notice that
20:39 Fiya: : lolol
20:40 Xakyrie: : 01:20:121 (1,2) - anyways, make sure the red anchors aren't showing so much here
20:40 Xakyrie: : you can see where they are since the protrude a bit where the curves are
20:40 Xakyrie: : xD
20:40 Fiya: : lol
20:40 Fiya: : could just
20:40 Fiya: : stuff two normal anchors ontop the red one
20:40 Fiya: : xD
20:41 Fiya: : one before and one after it
20:41 Fiya: : then stick them ontop
20:41 Fiya: : smoother curve 
20:41 Fiya: : without changing slider shape
20:41 Fiya: : derp
20:41 Xakyrie: : o.o wut
20:41 Xakyrie: : omg I gotta try this
20:41  *Xakyrie processing
20:42 Xakyrie: : ...
20:42 Xakyrie: : HOLY SHIT
20:42 Xakyrie: : wtf
20:42 Xakyrie: : that actually worked
20:42 Xakyrie: : xD
20:42 Fiya: : lolol
20:42 Fiya: : brb
20:42 Fiya: : and
20:42 Xakyrie: : alright o:
20:42 Fiya: : I experimented
20:42 Fiya: : a lot
20:42 Fiya: : with the editor 
20:42 Fiya: : just never with sliders
20:42 Fiya: : lol
20:42 Xakyrie: : haha well now you are and have :3
20:46 Fiya: : back
20:46 Fiya: : what
20:46 Fiya: : was that trick
20:46 Fiya: : that you were gonna say
20:46 Fiya: : before I said mine
20:46 Fiya: : lol
20:47 Xakyrie: : oh uhh
20:47 Xakyrie: : just make sure that the two grey points used to make it smoother are aligned straight with the red anchor
20:47 Fiya: : lol
20:49 Xakyrie: : 01:37:102 (2) - last suggestion, wouldn't you rather make this 01:34:083 (2) - but inverted?
20:49 Xakyrie: : 01:34:083 (2) - whoops no highlight
20:50 Fiya: : It was initially, but I changed it for some reason or another
20:50 Fiya: : lolz
20:50 Xakyrie: : D:
20:50 Xakyrie: : but it's more consistent x~x
20:50 Fiya: : lol
20:50 Fiya: : okay
20:50 Fiya: : xD
20:51 Xakyrie: : okay back to the beginning for a sec, (looking over hitsounds)
20:51 Xakyrie: : 00:11:441 (3) - are you by chance missing a whistle
20:51 Fiya: : nope
20:51 Fiya: : there wasn't one there
20:51 Xakyrie: : shouldn't there be one?
20:52 Fiya: : yeap
20:52 Fiya: : xD
20:52 Xakyrie: : 00:15:970 (3) - no whistle on end?
20:52 Xakyrie: : question as in, shouldn't you remove it? xD
20:53 Xakyrie: : er
20:53 Xakyrie: : wait
20:53 Xakyrie: : it's consistent
20:53 Xakyrie: : nevermind
20:53 Fiya: : Why, most certainly, dear person in question.
20:53 Xakyrie: : =3=
20:53 Xakyrie: : lmfao at the '^' text they implemented
20:53 Xakyrie: : I love it
20:53 Fiya: : me too
20:53 Fiya: : xD
20:53 Fiya: : I don't normally
20:53 Fiya: : overlap hitsounds
20:53 Fiya: : but it sounded good there
20:53 Fiya: : P:
20:54 Xakyrie: : 00:18:234 (2) - whistle on end to be consistent? or are you being consistent like every other phrase
20:55 Fiya: : everyother
20:55 Xakyrie: : then what about here
20:55 Xakyrie: : 00:22:762 (1) - 
20:55 Fiya: : it's a 2 part phrase
20:55 Fiya: : end phrase is different
20:55 Fiya: : it signifies change
20:56 Xakyrie: : alright alright
20:57 Xakyrie: : 01:13:705 (4) - kinda quiet
20:57 Xakyrie: : probably forgot about
20:57 Xakyrie: : it
20:57 Fiya: : well
20:57 Xakyrie: : er
20:57 Xakyrie: : wait
20:58 Fiya: : I just used those's volumes
20:58 Xakyrie: : ahh alright that's fine
20:58 Xakyrie: : xD
20:58 Fiya: : lol
20:58 Xakyrie: : yup all is good
20:58 Xakyrie: : thanks for letting me mod \o/
20:58 Fiya: : thx for modding it
20:58 Fiya: : annnnnnnnd
20:59 Fiya: : look at the 3rd to last post in the first page of the thread
20:59 Fiya: : he will probably KD you
20:59 Fiya: : if you post
20:59 Fiya: : or I could just ask him now
20:59 Xakyrie: : lol I talked to him, he said to post :3
20:59 Fiya: : or that
20:59 Fiya: : xD
20:59 Fiya: : thank you~
21:00 Xakyrie: : no problem, thank you :3