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FELT - Hail Storm

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Kite
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Dienstag, 7. April 2015 at 16:34:39

Artist: FELT
Title: Hail Storm
Source: 東方Project
Tags: touhou cirno jmjmjm Icicle Fall Maika 舞花 NAGI☆ ZUN 美歌 Mika Beloved Tomboyish Girl 東方紅魔郷 Koumakyou th6 eosd embodiment of scarlet devil p3n Garven
BPM: 134
Filesize: 9240kb
Play Time: 04:26
Difficulties Available:
  1. Advanced (2,41 stars, 405 notes)
  2. Beginner (1,28 stars, 218 notes)
  3. Challenging (3,4 stars, 734 notes)
Download: FELT - Hail Storm
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Enjoy~

Beginner difficulty mapped by p3n
Advanced difficulty mapped by Garven
Thanks a lot for the guest diffs!

Last edited by Kite , edited 30 times in total.
ca20114
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Maika最高 :) :) :)


慶祝SDVX收錄此曲~~~~~~~~~~
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Garven
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Garven
Progress!

Still need to hitsound the end of the chorus, but yeah. I think this fits well between the Easy and Hard.

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Kite
osu! Alumni
1,372 posts
Joined July 2009
Topic Starter
Kite
Updated, thanks a lot!
alacat
osu! Alumni
3,872 posts
Joined May 2011
alacat

meiikyuu wrote:

c:
Kite :>
dkun
osu! Alumni
4,486 posts
Joined August 2009
dkun
log
19:52 Kite: dkun
19:52 Kite: !1111!!
19:57 dkun: hi
19:57 dkun: what's up
19:58 Kite: mod my map babykins?
19:58 Kite: <3
19:58 dkun: np me
19:59 *Kite is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/316552 FELT - Hail Storm]
20:00 Kite: if its not asking for too much
20:00 dkun: i'm afraid to say that with the new diff rules
20:00 dkun: you're gonna have to shuffle some of these names around
20:00 dkun: but hey, i'll list that in my very short mod that will count for SP regardless!
20:00 Kite: oh right
20:01 Kite: p3ns easy
20:01 Kite: :P
20:01 dkun: yea
20:01 dkun: i'll list it
20:01 dkun: haha
20:04 dkun: this is a nice map
20:04 Kite: i hope the difficulty gap between hard and normal isnt a big problem
20:05 dkun: nah
20:05 Kite: phew
20:07 dkun: via hard - 00:20:250 (2,3) - how about adding a note in-between these two? leans into the next combo better
20:07 dkun: or well, the rest of the combo
20:07 Kite: done
20:11 Kite: i am considering to ctrl+g this 02:53:944 (2) -
20:11 Kite: and
20:11 Kite: 02:54:279 (3) -
20:12 dkun: better as-is atm
20:12 dkun: imo
20:12 Kite: alright
20:12 dkun: the interlude after second chorus is mapped really well
20:13 dkun: mmmm
20:14 dkun: I would just rename p3n's to p3n's ez and garven's nm then give your hard Snowstorm or something
20:14 dkun: up to you though
20:14 dkun: maybe blizzard
20:16 Kite: 00:40:623 (6) -
20:16 Kite: ew
20:16 Kite: didnt notice this before
20:17 dkun: lmao
20:17 dkun: wtf
20:17 dkun: 00:54:056 (4,5,6) - this looks bad not being symmetrical
20:17 dkun: 00:51:369 (7) - is also off
20:19 dkun: you gotta really appreciate clean normals like this though
20:20 Kite: yeah
20:20 dkun: takes symmetry and does it right with flow
20:20 dkun: wish mapping was still like this
20:20 Kite: you dont see many good normals like this in most mapsets
20:20 Kite: most of the time they are speedmapped for the sake of complete mapset
20:20 dkun: haha ikr
20:20 dkun: and at that, normals are usually the hardest diff nowadays
20:21 dkun: times do change, huh
20:21 Kite: i know only a few people who can make great normals and easy
20:21 dkun: I don't really know many people that's actively taking requests anymore
20:21 dkun: since I suck at them
20:21 dkun: :p
20:23 dkun: I really hate to say this since the offset is really spot on
20:23 dkun: but you're gonna need to re-encode this mp3 into 192
20:24 Kite: hahaha i knew i missed something basic
20:24 Kite: xD

Basic list of changes
  1. Mentioned the difficulty naming rule with the Hardest difficulty being able to have a custom name. Should be fixed in the near future.
  2. Changed a combo (or two) in Hard to add consistency.
  3. Asked the mapper to re-encode the MP3 to 192KB/S as per mapping standard.
  4. (Few) changes in the Normal regarding some off-spaced combos (didn't look intentional).
Garven
osu! Alumni
5,857 posts
Joined January 2010
Garven
Updated the weird spacing. The symmetrical pattern that was pointed out is lined up as a stack with the end of the slider, and I gave an illustration to dkun while he was online. I also ctrl + g'd a couple circles before the first chorus for better flow and consistency with the second chorus.

SPOILER
osu file format v13

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TitleUnicode:Hail Storm
Artist:FELT
ArtistUnicode:FELT
Creator:Kite
Version:Normal
Source:Touhou
Tags:Icicle Fall Maika 舞花 NAGI☆ ZUN 美歌 Mika Beloved Tomboyish Girl 東方紅魔郷 Koumakyou th6 eosd embodiment of scarlet devil p3n Garven
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Kite
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Kite
Applied changes to my Hard difficulty, re-encoded the mp3 to 192kbps and renamed the Easy and Normal.
Also applied Garven's changes that he posted.

Timing should be okay for the new mp3.

Thanks for the mod!
Raose
698 posts
Joined July 2012
Raose
hi hope my bad mod is somehow useful :'D

[Hard]

00:18:682 (3) - how about moving this back 1/4 since there's a strong beat there and maybe add a circle at 00:19:130?
00:36:369 (1) - make this a similar rhythm as 00:35:809 (4)?
02:16:779 - add a note here since there's a beat? :O
02:33:011 (3) - clap on head?

wah there's like nothing i can suggest on this diff, gj!

[Normal]

00:37:488 (1,2) - can improve blankets here just a bit =w=
01:16:891 (1,2) - players might not be able to figure out the rhythm right away, how about making this a repeat slider first so players can get used to it? o3o
01:55:847 - consider adding a note here, or making a 1/2 slider to fit the vocals? seems a bit empty atm
01:57:414 - maybe another circle here?
01:59:876 (1) - i think blanket can be improved here :D
01:42:190 (1) - it's kinda dumb but spinners need a new combo
03:57:266 (3) - might be better to just use a 1/2 slider here, a 1/4 repeat slider may be too hard idk
04:11:818 (2) - ^
04:21:669 (1) - hmm i think the spinner would fit better if it started at 04:23:236 since there's sort of a wind-up sound in the bg, also NC the spinner ;w;

this is a pretty hard normal LOL

[Easy]

01:54:355 (4) - a bit far from 3 ;w;
03:34:654 (1) - add finish on head?

nice diff

goodluck on map :D
Kite
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Thanks!
Applied first and last suggestion to my Hard diff.
Waiting on p3n and Garven for their updates now.
Garven
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Garven

Raose wrote:

[Normal]

00:37:488 (1,2) - can improve blankets here just a bit =w= Sure
01:16:891 (1,2) - players might not be able to figure out the rhythm right away, how about making this a repeat slider first so players can get used to it? o3o With the increased spacing and general velocity for the chorus, I think it works okay enough. Having a repeat slider will break the momentum for the speed increase.
01:55:847 - consider adding a note here, or making a 1/2 slider to fit the vocals? seems a bit empty atm I don't want to be following every single beat. Even though it's a fairly tough Normal to fit between the Easy and Hard, I still don't want to overdo it rhythmically.
01:57:414 - maybe another circle here? Added one at 01:58:161 - so that the distance snap isn't as broken.
01:59:876 (1) - i think blanket can be improved here :D Wasn't really going for a blanket at that point.
01:42:190 (1) - it's kinda dumb but spinners need a new combo No they don't. This spinner fits within the combo so a new combo shouldnt' be applied.
03:57:266 (3) - might be better to just use a 1/2 slider here, a 1/4 repeat slider may be too hard idk We'll see what others say. I was a bit iffy in using them initially, but I've warmed up to them after several test plays.
04:11:818 (2) - ^ I think this one will be fine regardless since there aren't any objects immediately after it.
04:21:669 (1) - hmm i think the spinner would fit better if it started at 04:23:236 since there's sort of a wind-up sound in the bg, also NC the spinner ;w; The spinner actually starts with that wind-up sound you described pretty much where I started it. Removed new combo on 04:21:445 (4) -

this is a pretty hard normal LOL

Yeah, the Easy and Hard were already made when I was asked to make this, so I did my best to keep it between the two. It's pretty hard, but I think it's still fair as far as Normals are concerned.
Thanks!

Edit:

Had a quick mod trade with Trust since we both had guest Normals in mapsets. This contains the update from that look:

04:01:743 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Redesigned so that 5 and 6 are a 1.4x jump instead of 1.6x.

SPOILER
osu file format v13

[General]
AudioFilename: 2. Hail Storm.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 76220
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 236294
DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 8
TimelineZoom: 1

[Metadata]
Title:Hail Storm
TitleUnicode:Hail Storm
Artist:FELT
ArtistUnicode:FELT
Creator:Kite
Version:Garven's Normal
Source:Touhou
Tags:Icicle Fall Maika 舞花 NAGI☆ ZUN 美歌 Mika Beloved Tomboyish Girl 東方紅魔郷 Koumakyou th6 eosd embodiment of scarlet devil p3n Garven
BeatmapID:466180
BeatmapSetID:122349

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:3.5
OverallDifficulty:5.5
ApproachRate:5.5
SliderMultiplier:1.44
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
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p3n
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p3n

Raose wrote:

[Easy]

01:54:355 (4) - a bit far from 3 ;w; changed the angle a bit to make it 0.9x - those sliders are never really played to their exact ending points and it should "feel" like less distance.
03:34:654 (1) - add finish on head? that wouldl break the pattern, sorry :(

nice diff thanks :3

Thanks for your mod!

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_dog
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_dog
Mod:
General -
* Remove countdown even if it isn't active hue

p3n's Easy
1. 00:08:460 (4) - Would throw off a newer player.
2. 01:34:878 (2) - May you please make this the same shape as: 01:36:893 (4) -
just with the curve going upward instead of down
Also, add a bit more curve to both for aesthetics.
3. 03:03:311 (5) - Maybe loosen the curve on this one?
4. 04:01:744 (2) - Same as "2"

Very solid easy, I like what you got here.

Garven's Normal
Can you stay consistent with the other difficulties hitsounds.
The ones used in this difficulty are very jarring and normal-hitclap4 is annoying.

1. 00:08:908 (1) - While pretty your skipping a nice beat that is even mapped in the Easy.
2. 04:08:908 (1) - Now it's time to make something pretty.
2. 04:10:251 - I think you should end it here and add a circle on the next 1/2.
3. 04:19:430 (9) - Please keep the path of (7) and (8).

This Normal is on point!

Kite's Hard
"Kite's Hard" for consistency in this post. :P

Stack Leniency 2 please.
02:06:445 (3,4,5) - This hitsound change scared me whilst playing.
02:45:512 (4) - I would prefer this slider point upwards instead.
***02:55:475 (1,2,3) - NICE!***

Kite, your maps are always hard to mod, cause I can't find errors. Why you do this to me??

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Kite
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Kite
Lowered the volume on hitsound change, not too sure about stack leniency, but I will keep it in mind.
Thanks for the mod!
Garven
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Garven

TheGrimOfCrazy wrote:

Mod:
General -
* Remove countdown even if it isn't active hue I'll let Kite take care of this

Garven's Normal
Can you stay consistent with the other difficulties hitsounds.
The ones used in this difficulty are very jarring and normal-hitclap4 is annoying.
I preferred it over the clap sound in the other soundset. Any points where it's particularly jarring? I can edit those points down, but I found it to be good to my ears.

1. 00:08:908 (1) - While pretty your skipping a nice beat that is even mapped in the Easy. Considering you have three different mappers here, there's going to be a wide variance on interpretation. I probably wouldn't have mapped it in Easy had I done that level of difficulty since I favor longer sliders.
2. 04:08:908 (1) - Now it's time to make something pretty. Feel free to provide an example. I really wanted the curl motion here for the flow, but if you have a suggestion to maximize prettiness, I'm all ears. So to speak.
2. 04:10:251 - I think you should end it here and add a circle on the next 1/2. I wanted a heavier emphasis on the huge crescendo created by that whoosh sound at this point since it's pretty much the apex.
3. 04:19:430 (9) - Please keep the path of (7) and (8). 7 and 8 aren't even lined up to each other due to the angle. Its incrementally going upwards out of the line that the slider makes since I'd be out of room otherwise.

This Normal is on point!

I'm tired and edited your post as my reply instead of quote, so I messed up some of your formatting. Sorry about that. Anyway, thanks for looking into the map. I'm interested to see your suggestions for the slider shape and the clap usage. Let me know!
Kite
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Topic Starter
Kite
Updated for now, gonna see if p3n changes anything.
Cherry Blossom
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M4M.

General

  1. Is there a sb on this map ? disable widescreen support because there is no sb.

p3n's Easy


  1. 01:29:952 - add a note here, i sounds kinda empty without a note here because you can hear something really powerful on this tick.
  2. 02:52:341 - same as ^
  3. 03:30:848 (2) - hmm, i think there could be a better and smoother movement here, try this instead
    SPOILER
  4. 04:20:549 (3,4,5,6) - same as ^, the movement could be improved to make this shape smoother.
    SPOILER

    Looks fine for an Easy diff, you followed vocals instead of beats and that makes this diff a bit weird, but the rhythm is consistent, so, it looks fine.

Garven's Normal

  1. 00:15:400 - add a note or make this tick followed to avoid the 3/2 gap, plus, this red tick is audible and could be followed.
  2. 01:16:296 - same as ^
  3. 00:16:072 (1,2,3,4,5) - the movement here does not look nice, you could make it better and smoother, why don't to try this
    SPOILER
  4. 00:39:803 (4) - Looks inconsistent with 00:36:557, why a 3/4 slider here 00:39:803 (4) - and not here 00:36:221 ? It should be better if you make things consistent, Plus you should make this tick followed 00:39:355 as you did there 00:35:773
  5. 00:47:415 (8) - it should be better if you keep the symmetry here, try this
    SPOILER
  6. 01:55:923 - add a note here to avoid the 3/2 gap, it also will make the downbeat playable, there is a strong beat which have to be played here.
  7. 02:09:803 (7,8,1) - the distance here looks clunky, adjust the distance between notes here.
  8. 02:14:952 (2,3,4) - same as ^
  9. 04:16:520 (2) - it should be better if you make a reversed 3/4 slider instead to avoid the 3/4 gap between 04:16:520 (2,3) - and make this pattern easier to read, as you did here 04:20:102 (2,3) -

    Looks a bit old-fashioned, looks nice, i really liked symmetrical patterns.
    The issue is that i'm not really sure if it's good enough for ranking, it was 1 year ago, but today due to the quality requirement, many things could be improved, like rhythm, aesthetics and flow.

Hard

  1. 00:02:639 (2,1) - this antijump looks a bit odd, you didnt add another antijump like this on this section, it should be better if you avoid it.
  2. 00:17:527 - this tick should be followed, according to your pattern, you can hear something strong as 00:17:303, and it looks odd this it is skipped.
  3. 00:18:982 - same scenario as ^
  4. 00:33:087 (4,5,1) - align properly these objects if they were supposed to be aligned.
  5. 00:50:214 (2,3) - the 3/4 gap looks odd because this tick here 00:50:773 is audible, and it will be better if you add a note here.
  6. 02:14:952 - same as ^
  7. 04:02:191 (2,3) - a stack here looks out of place because you didn't stack any 1/2s on this section, plus, this tick 04:02:639 should be played, to emphasize the vocal.
  8. 04:17:415 (7,8) - make the spacing consistent here, it looks kinda odd to see 04:17:415 (7,8) - closer than 04:17:191 (6,7) -
  9. 04:19:206 (3) - why don't to move this slider at 04:19:654 (1) - 's left, it looks more comfortable to play because it will allow the player to play this slider 04:18:535 (2) - properly, just see
    SPOILER

    Cool diff, there could be more density but it's a hard anyway. This diff plays well, flow is fine.

This set is not bad overall, just need more improvement on each diff.
If you want a remod/recheck i can do, but find more mods by experienced modders.
Good luck.
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