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+Plus - Fiesta [Osu|Taiko]

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Topic Starter
wmtokok
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2014年3月20日 at 18:45:38

Artist: +Plus
Title: Fiesta
Source: Fairy Tail
Tags: opening 6 Hanjamon TV Size
BPM: 140
Filesize: 16381kb
Play Time: 01:27
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.02 stars, 82 notes)
  2. Hanjamon's Muzukashii (4.7 stars, 340 notes)
  3. Hanjamon's Oni (4.83 stars, 417 notes)
  4. Hard (4.84 stars, 206 notes)
  5. Insane (5 stars, 280 notes)
  6. Normal (3.16 stars, 110 notes)
Download: +Plus - Fiesta
Download: +Plus - Fiesta (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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這是我的第一張圖
This is my 1st map.
初めて :)
Easy - Done By Me
Normal - Done By Me
Hard - Done By Me
Insane - Done By Me
Hanjamon's Muzukashii - Done By Hanjamon
Hanjamon's Oni - Done By Hanjamon
Topic Starter
wmtokok
I change the photo. ;)
moonlightleaf
From my queue

都是一些个人意见,希望有用

general
用格子3吧 ctrl+3

全模式 滑条速度1.2x 滑条点数2 ...

仅供参考:
对于140BPM的来说
Easy 0.8-1.0x点数?
Normal 1.1-1.2x 点数?
Hard 1.5-1.7 点数1-2
Insane 1.8-1.9 或者更高 点数为1
最后转盘结束在01:28:060

视频可以考虑最后图做的差不多了再加了传上去(这样方便以后改

了图更新上传快一点,省去传视频的时间)

PS: t/109978这里有很多东西可以学
Easy
00:53:131(1)(2) 之间太空,诡异

01:16:716(4)和3的距离 3放上面点,太下了
Normal
00:02:560(1) 折返

00:08:560(1)(2)(3)(1) 都移到 x:212

00:14:988和00:15:846 加note ?

00:28:274(3)(4)交换位置

00:43:703(3)(4) 参考 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/677117

01:17:988(1)(2)(3)(1)(2)(3)后面3个不建议放在前面3个原来的位置,即使要放 都没对齐(2)和(2),(3)和(3)→ http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/677130
Hard
AR-1

00:13:703(3)(4) 删 2放到1上

00:14:560(1)(2)(3) 摆放不平衡
1)x:92 y:140
2)x:212 y:260
3)x:332 y:140

00:28:703(4)删 改note到00:28:917 放5上面

00:33:203加note

00:40:060 ^

00:44:988 ^

01:10:917 可加可不加note

01:20:560(1)删
insane
不能多说,新人的话,建议先把前3个难度做好吧,这个可以考虑删掉

加油吧 mapper路还很长 我们都还有很多东西要学
Topic Starter
wmtokok
我想問更改滑條速度後
所有滑條都移位了
有沒有快的方法修正?
moonlightleaf
快速啊。。没有耶,只能单个单个,重新拉一下滑条(就是滑条最后的那个点移动就能修正),不一定死要按照那个,只是做参考,具体看个人喜好
Topic Starter
wmtokok
頭3個難道都改好了
更新好了
另外我把insane重新再做~~
yurunneram
Chinese eh... I can speak but can't mod in chinese so 对不起 ^^")7 P.S. I love this OP :D Fiesta should've been ranked so long ago I'll work real hard on this mod! (skipping easy...) And btw ur gonna hate me for every shit I tell you. XP PS if you don't know whats X and Y axis PM me. And sry if the mods overlap.

Normal
00:00:846 (1,1,1) - Yes u snapped the distance but make the ends and start on the same x axis. 00:01:703 (1) will be moved to x 240 y 184 so the head is directly below 00:00:846 (1). and 00:02:560 (1) will go to x 360 y 304

See the diff? (ok actually you can hardly see it)
Before:

After:


00:05:131 (3) - Move to x 116 y 84 (same X axis as 00:04:274 (1) and y axis as 00:05:560 (4) but there will be changes to 00:05:560 (4) later anyways)

00:05:560 (4, 1) I would switch these two around rhythm wise. Sounds nicer eh? If not then just resnap 00:05:560 (4) since you moved 00:05:131 (3)

00:07:703 (4) - This should be a NC instead of 00:08:560 (1)

00:08:560 (1) - Hey, this is easy diff. No jumps. Bring it closer to 4. =.=

00:09:846 - Add note.

00:11:131 (3) - Why did you put it here? (Arrangement) Maybe hide it behind 00:10:274 (1)

00:24:846 (2) - Why didn't you add symbol to this if you added it to 00:26:560 (1) ?

00:28:274 (3) - Resnap

00:50:560 - Kiai should start here instead. Oh, and you kinda overused the finish hitsound hear the start of chorus. Take out a few

00:49:703 (1,2) - I don't think you should have these. This is normal diff so Noobs need time to find their cursors. Make it empty for two beats and add a note on 00:50:131 (the actual kiai time starting point)

01:19:274 (1,2,3) - Why they all one grid square to the right of the previous combo note above it? Just let it overlap nicely.


Sorry, I will not mod hard because of your distance spacing. Snap everything please. That's all sry I'll wait to see this ranked ^^ 加油!

You have been modded out by Yurun Neram
Topic Starter
wmtokok
thank very much ;)
[Luxord]
Hello there.

[General]
  1. The Artist name is not Plus but+Plus. Rename the Beatmap to +Plus - Fiesta
  2. There are three OSB files in your folder. The song folder must have only 1. Delete the other two.
  3. Your beatmaps doesn't have a preview time. You can set a preview time from the tool bar on the top of your editor(File, Edit, ... , Help). Click the Timing and then Set current position as preview time.
  4. You requested a SB Mod but there's no SB to mod. If you gonna add a Video then don't bother to make a SB.
[Easy]
  1. I cannot mod this difficulty. I can't understand any pattern :/ I suggest you to remap it and make more shapes with sliders and also placement shapes with the hit circles and stuff. The symmetry in beatmaps is a very urgent issue, especially in Easy and Normal difficulties where the detail is very obvious.
[Normal]
  1. 00:01:703 (1,1) - The New Combo is not needed here. The New combo is meant to show where the rhythm or the lyrics are changing, therefore, overuse of New combo looks bad and it can be unrankable - There are exceptions depends on how you use it.
  2. 00:04:274 (1,2,3) - Copy paste those circles to 00:06:417 - and then press CTRL+H and CTRL+G to move them exactly in the other side of the game area(Mirror) and also change their order for the distance spacing. After you do that, you can use this shape: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/682502
  3. 00:07:703 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1) - What you've tried to do here wont work. The distance spacing and the place you chose will not let you place them propetly, use a different pattern to suit the song and also feel comfortable when playing.
  4. 00:19:274 (1,2) - The sliders here are not symmetrical. You can copy-paste the first slider(but not on the same time line) and then click CTRL+H and CTRL+G and then move it closer in accordance with the distance spacing.
  5. 01:17:988 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not stacked properly.
  6. Generally this difficulty is not as random as the Easy one but still needs a lot of work.
[Hard]
  1. 00:01:703 (1,1) - New combo is not needed here. Explain why in the Normal difficulty.
  2. 00:11:988 (1,1) - ^
  3. 00:17:774 (4,5,6) - The spacing is wrong, the spacing should be same between the notes. Read this for more information: https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Spacing
    And that's the main issue of the beatmap, the spacing. Fix the spacing and then call me back for a remod if you want :)
[Insane]
  1. The main problem here is Spacing as well and some bad placings. Please fix the distance spacing according to the link I gave you above in Hard and then call me back for a recheck to find and tell you the placing errors you may have later on.
If you want to "cheat" the distance spacing in special parts, make sure they are playable and fit the song, this should be done in Hard(But not too much) and Insane. When I say "cheat" I mean jumps and stuff which skips the distance snapping.

Farewell and good luck :)
kelvinli
A side note here
remove "op6" from source
add "opening" in tags
add "(TV Size)" to the song name , so it will be:
+Plus - Fiesta (TV Size)
-RIKKA-_old
mod queueからです~ :)

Normal
・00:11:131 (5,6) - ここを00:12:846 (1,2) - と同じにしてみては?
・00:16:274 (5,1) - このようにしてみては?
・00:19:274 (1,1) - それぞれ00:19:060と00:19:917からスタートさせるといいです。(リターンスライダーにするとよりいいです。)
・00:19:917 (1) - NC削除。
・00:20:988 (x) - note追加。
・00:29:131 (4,5) - この部分をリターンスライダーにしては?
・00:33:417 (6,1) - このようにしてみては?
・00:38:131 (x) - note追加?
・ 気合タイム00:50:560をスタート。01:02:988を終わりにするといいと思います。
・00:59:131 (4,5,6) - リズムの順番を6、4、5にして置いてみては?
・2つ目の気合タイムのスタートを01:04:274にするといいです。

Hard
・00:11:131 (1) - NC削除。
・00:11:988 (1) - ^
・00:12:846 (1,2,3) - このようにしては?
・00:14:131 (x) - note追加。
・ 00:22:274 (5,6) - リズムの順番を6、5にして置いてみては?
・00:30:631 (2) - スライダーを白線まで伸ばしてください。
・00:36:631 (7) - note追加。
・00:36:846 (1,2) - このようにしては?
・00:37:703 (1) - note追加。
・00:39:417 (2) - スライダーを赤線まで伸ばしてください。
・00:41:988 (1) - NC削除。
・00:42:846 (1) - ^
・00:43:703 (1) - ^
・00:43:703 (1,2) - このようにしては?
・00:45:417 (1,2,3,4,5) - このようにしては?
・気合タイムはNormalと同様でいいと思います。
・スピンを00:49:703で終わらせ、00:50:560からnoteを置いていくとより良くなると思います。
・00:50:560 (3,4,5) - このようにしては?
・01:00:417 (x) - note追加?
・ 01:12:631 (x) - ^
・ 01:12:846 (1) - このようにしては?
・01:24:631 (x) - note追加。
・01:25:274 (1) - スピンを01:25:060からスタート。01:28:060を終わりにするといいと思います。


頑張ってください!
Topic Starter
wmtokok
ありがとう
-RIKKA-
[Luxord]
Hey there!

Recheck as promised!

[General]
I believe the Kiai time would be better to start from 01:04:274 instead of 01:03:417
The finish hitsound makes it sound more nice when entering the Kiai mode.

[Easy]
00:57:417 (1,2,3,4) - Make the corner better here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/684990 :3
01:04:703 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Check those pictures: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/684995 & http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/684997
This way you fix the symmetry in those notes and also stay on Distance snap :3 If you like it, you're free to use it :D
01:08:988 (5,6) - The overlap doesn't look good in Easy difficulties, always do the best you can to avoid them if the Distance is allowing you: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/684999
Just put the reverse a bit lower like this :3
01:17:131 (8) - Add circle at x:280 y:220 to follow the vocal~

[Normal]
00:08:988 (3) - Why this slider is going downwards? Make it straight :P If the distance is x0.98 is not really a problem so don't worry :P
00:09:846 (4) - Make the curve of this slider same with the approach circle of the next one, it will look much better.
00:15:417 (3,4,5,6) - Look this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/685010 and this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/685011
It looks better right?
00:18:631 (3) - 1 Grid down
00:35:131 (2) - 1 Grid up~
00:42:417 (2) - Move the last point of the slider(the reverse) 2 grids up
00:44:131 (4) - Move the last point of the slider(the reverse) 2 grids down
00:50:560 (1,3) - You can stack those two if you want instead of a half-note-overlap

[Hard]
00:24:846 (2,4) - Make those two symmetrical o.o
Thats all XD

[Insane]
00:01:988 (3) - 1 grid to left o.o Stream looks weird :D
00:04:488 (2) - 2 Grid down
00:09:417 (1,2,3,4,5) - You can make a Star shape here o.o
00:15:203 (1,1) - Meaningless new combo ;w;
00:22:274 (4,5,6,7) - You can make those look better imo.
00:27:417 (1,2,3,4,5) - This makes a weird shape, fix it - It would be good straight or with a better curve.
01:18:417 (1,1) - Meaningless New combo ;w;

The Insane needs more work but the Easy and Normal are really much better :)

Good luck :3
Topic Starter
wmtokok
KiyoshiX101
Your mod is very good :D
Ayesha Altugle
[general]
00:50:560 - move the start of kiai time here and add preview point here and do it for all difficulties

[Easy]
00:31:703 (1) - add finish at start of slider and add clap at the end of the slider
00:32:988 (2) - remove note?
00:33:417 (3) - do the same as 00:31:703 (1)
00:38:560 (1) - ^
00:39:846 (2) - remove finish
00:40:274 (3) - do the same as 00:31:703 (1)

[hard]
00:00:846 (1,2,3) - make these sliders 1/3
or copythis code even hitsounds will be changed
88,32,846,2,4,L|144:32,3,53.3333333333333,0|0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,192,1703,2,4,L|144:192,3,53.3333333333333,0|0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
88,352,2560,2,4,L|152:352,6,53.3333333333333,0|0|0|8|0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
[CSGA]Ar3sgice
general:
source: fairy tail, 去掉那个opening
tags: 不需要复读

看了下insane, 感觉都是二分拍放满在加点串什么的
有些歌可以这么放, 不过这个曲子有不少天然的二连节奏

比如00:21:738 - 这里, 这样摆节奏就可以配合歌词 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/688939
后面还有00:38:881 - 00:40:060 - 00:42:310 - 00:43:167之类, 自己找找..
01:16:596 - 这样的节奏可以放3/4, 像这样 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/688944

关于音效, 建议就是一般情况下别连续放同种音效
比如00:02:560 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这种连着的finish, 听上去就很重口
一般的方法是隔一拍放, 如著名的24clap法, 这个曲子感觉用clap+whistle组合着放比较好
选中滑条之后再点一下一个圈变红, 可以单独放音效下去0,0

然后还有就是把design里面多出来的背景图片删掉0,0

别的难度的话
hard 00:00:846 (1,2) - 三分拍 (上面那个挑过了233
感觉hard,normal节奏还可以呢, 音效的话和insane差不多的问题
BusterBeachside
Hi! From my queue.

EASY:
00:50:560 (1,2) - Placed too soon after the spinner for an Easy diff. I'd suggest getting rid of them and changing the next part around a bit or maybe removing the spinner altogether and adding a new section where it was. Or, you could add a Break Time. Personally, I would just remove the two hits in question.

The rest of this diff. seems okay to me! ^_^

NORMAL:
00:24:417 (1) - Move this one down a bit so that it lines up with 00:24:846 (2)?
00:27:846 (2) - Same thing, move to the right so that it lines up with 00:26:560 (1).
00:50:560 (1) - Same thing as Easy diff., it's still a bit too early after the spinner for newer players. See my Easy suggestions! ^_^
00:59:131 (4) - Remove claps?

HARD:
This one actually looks pretty good, I have a few opinionated complaints, but nothing I could see preventing it from being ranked, as far as I can tell. Good job!

INSANE:
00:17:131 (1,2,3,4,5) - Turn up the hitsound volume for this part. I couldn't hear any feedback telling me whether or not I had hit the object.
01:20:131 (1) - Turn up the volume in this timing section, too. The rest of the hitsounds in the song from here out is WAY too quiet.
00:38:560 (3,4,5,6) - I find these to be REALLY hard to read. I think you should change it to mirror the hit objects at 00:40:274 (5,6,7).

Needs some more work I think, but it's getting there! I like the flow of your hit objects. Great song choice, too! Hope it gets ranked~
Norman
From Korean Modding Team

[Easy]

  1. 00:04:274 (1,3,2) - Slider something like this picture?
    SPOILER
    80,100,4274,6,0,P|256:20|436:100,1,400
    472,192,6417,1,8,0:0:0:0:
    434,285,6846,2,0,P|256:364|80:284,1,400
  1. 00:12:846 (1) - ^
  1. 01:08:988 (6) - ^

[Normal]

  1. 00:08:988 (3) - 2 Grid Up
  1. 00:09:846 (5,4) - Slider something like this picture?, That looks good very much!
  1. 00:31:274 (4) - ^

[Hard]

  1. 00:04:274 (1,5,2,3,4) - please arrange in this way.
  1. 00:54:631 (1) - How is it to put this on 00:53:774 (4) ?

[Insane]

  1. 00:09:417 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:09:631 (2) is X:90 Y:240
    - 00:09:846 (3) is X:288 Y:171
    - 00:10:060 (4) is X:86 Y:146
    - 00:10:060 (5) is X:184 Y:257
  1. 00:12:631 (5) - X:168 Y:228
  1. 00:47:131 (1) - The spinner end to 00:48:846 and add a circle 00:49:274
  1. 01:14:346 (4) - 2 Gird up
  1. 01:23:560 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:23:774 (2) is X:340 Y:288
    - 01:23:989 (3) is X:464 Y:196
    - 01:24:203 (4) is X:316 Y:196
    - 01:24:417 (5) is X:436 Y:288
Foxxer_old
General

You should put the Slider Tick Rate of Hard on 2.

Hard

00:05:988 (6) - Add a new combo here
00:18:846 (6) - ^
00:29:988 (1) - You should approach this slider to the end of the previous slider.
00:30:631 (2) - This need to end on the white line.
01:17:988 (3,5) - I think its better these sliders end on the blue line.

Good Luck~
- Tu -
lm

On IRC
17:07 wmtokok: 有興趣m4m嗎0.0?
17:07 oscartutu: m4m?
17:08 oscartutu: KOREA??
17:08 wmtokok: - -?
17:08 wmtokok: 互相改圖...
17:08 oscartutu: dling
17:09 oscartutu: 我的沒有完成
17:09 oscartutu: 先不用
17:09 wmtokok: 我在找人幫我mod
17:10 oscartutu: 16:917
17:10 oscartutu: 人聲入了但沒有cirlce
17:10 oscartutu: insane
17:13 oscartutu: 我個人覺得就太多circle ,不過map得都唔錯
17:13 wmtokok: @@
17:13 oscartutu: BPM offset check好了?
17:13 wmtokok: 嗯.
17:15 oscartutu: 00:34:274 (1) -
17:15 oscartutu: delete
17:16 wmtokok: 這個在造星型...
17:17 oscartutu: 但是我覺得,不跟拍子和人聲
17:19 oscartutu: 00:33:417 (1) -
17:19 oscartutu: 改做打4次?
17:20 oscartutu: http://puu.sh/2wLxN
17:20 oscartutu: 00:38:560 (3) -
17:21 wmtokok: 這個有什麼問題@@?
17:22 oscartutu: 個人感覺
17:22 oscartutu: 更好聽
17:22 oscartutu: 01:12:203 加D circle
17:23 oscartutu: 01:15:631 (1) -
17:23 oscartutu: http://puu.sh/2wLAl
17:27 oscartutu: 01:24:846 (1) -
17:27 oscartutu: http://puu.sh/2wLDA
17:27 wmtokok: 最後加note?
17:27 oscartutu: 55
17:28 oscartutu: 跟番個2下
17:29 oscartutu: 01:12:417 (3) -
17:29 oscartutu: 連
17:29 oscartutu: http://puu.sh/2wLFD
17:29 oscartutu: 晒佢try try
17:33 oscartutu: easy 轉左ar3先
17:34 oscartutu: normal ar4or5
17:34 oscartutu: HP都係
17:35 wmtokok: easy唔係ar3咩@@
17:35 oscartutu: 55
17:36 oscartutu: noraml 改HP同AR
17:36 oscartutu: 4-5都ok
17:36 oscartutu: noramal個setting太似east
17:36 oscartutu: y
17:41 oscartutu: easy 見唔到有野mod
17:42 oscartutu: normal都冇
17:44 wmtokok: 改左ar d位洗唔洗重新汁過
17:44 oscartutu: 唔洗
17:44 oscartutu: 00:02:560 (3) -
17:44 oscartutu: hard
17:44 oscartutu: http://puu.sh/2wLSW
17:44 oscartutu: with green line
17:46 oscartutu: http://puu.sh/2wLUh 00:11:131 (1) -
17:48 oscartutu: 果埋最尾果個spinner可以考慮加一個note
17:48 oscartutu: 全diff都係
17:48 wmtokok: 唔太想0.0
17:48 wmtokok: 因為...
17:48 oscartutu: 你話事
17:48 oscartutu: 我渣mod
17:49 wmtokok: 感覺好似係到fake人咁._.
17:49 oscartutu: 竟然lol
17:49 wmtokok: 因為我平時轉完就算...
17:49 wmtokok: XD
17:49 oscartutu: 嗯
17:50 wmtokok: 2:560(3) 改得好好@@我自己都冇流意
17:50 oscartutu: 你加油啦
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