EGOIST - The Everlasting Guilty Crown -TV Edit- · forum

Yauxo

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-05-08T13:18:45+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Mittwoch, 6. August 2014 at 03:33:54

Artist: EGOIST
Title: The Everlasting Guilty Crown -TV Edit-
Source: Guilty Crown
Tags: samah ryo supercell chelly opening frostings karia
BPM: 172
Filesize: 15564kb
Play Time: 01:26
Difficulties Available:

Easy (1,47 stars, 93 notes)
Frostings' Insane (4,5 stars, 314 notes)
Insane (3,94 stars, 285 notes)
Karia's Insane (4,54 stars, 344 notes)
Normal (1,84 stars, 115 notes)
Samah's Hard (3,21 stars, 243 notes)

Download: EGOIST - The Everlasting Guilty Crown -TV Edit-
Download: EGOIST - The Everlasting Guilty Crown -TV Edit- (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Easy - by me

Normal - by me

Samah's Hard - by Samah

Insane - by me

Frostings' Insane - by Frostings

Karia's Insane - by Karia

Guilty Crown Opening

Special Thanks

Samah, Frostings and Karia for their GDs :3
pishifat for that beginner hitsound-mod
LunarSakuya for bubble <3
captin1 for rank <3

re-rank because apparently it's -TV Edit- and not (TV Size)

Last edited by Yauxo 2018-08-30T16:28:15+00:00, edited 82 times in total.

Ringating

717 posts

Joined August 2013

Ringating 2014-05-21T10:44:13+00:00

from my bg modding queue:

this mod wasn't really much, considering you provided me a really high quality image to work with (thanks for making my life easier

). I cropped the image to get it to a 16:9 aspect ratio, then downscaled it to osu's max bg image size of 1366x768. I saved the new image as a png 'cause there is a somewhat noticeable loss in sharpness when this particular image is saved as a high quality jpeg. The difference in size is about 600 kb, but it's worth the extra data, imo. Here is the new image:

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Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-05-22T07:22:06+00:00

Ringating wrote:
from my bg modding queue:

this mod wasn't really much, considering you provided me a really high quality image to work with (thanks for making my life easier ). I cropped the image to get it to a 16:9 aspect ratio, then downscaled it to osu's max bg image size of 1366x768. I saved the new image as a png 'cause there is a somewhat noticeable loss in sharpness when this particular image is saved as a high quality jpeg. The difference in size is about 600 kb, but it's worth the extra data, imo. Here is the new image:
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Thanks :3

DrawdeX

786 posts

Joined December 2012

DrawdeX 2014-05-25T13:02:56+00:00

Hello!
I just wanna suggest more info for the beatmap.

[General]
• Source is Guilty Crown
• Tags like "ryo supercell"

That's all!

Good luck~

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-05-25T14:08:25+00:00

DrawdeX wrote:
Hello!
I just wanna suggest more info for the beatmap.

[General]
• Source is Guilty Crown
• Tags like "ryo supercell"

That's all!
Good luck~

I left them open till every diff was mapped. Added the tags and the source

Is that kdworthy though? ._.

AsprikaQ

AsprikaQ 2014-05-25T14:50:35+00:00

omg nice map

random mod. All suggestion.

[General]

- Put more of hitsounds please. I feel it lacks the power as the song is so powerful

[Easy]

00:00:174 (1) - In Normal, you mapped this part so in Easy you should as well
00:19:011 (3) - Remove Whistle at tail
00:21:801 (3) - Whistle at head
00:34:708 (2) - Add whistle
00:42:034 (1) - how about this http://puu.sh/90BNa.jpg
01:00:871 (3) - Remove clap at head
01:15:522 (1) - Whistle head
01:23:894 (1) - End with 5% audio ?

[Normal]

Try to put some elements in half-beat line would be good.

00:10:639 (3) - Remove Whistle a tail
00:14:127 (1,2) - 1/3
01:26:947 (1) - End spinner here with 5% audio?

[Hard]

00:00:174 (1) - Remove finish
00:12:557 (4) - Violin sound actually starts at 00:12:732
00:26:685 (6) - Replace with spinner?
00:46:918 (1,2,3) - Too far in Hard.
00:48:313 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
01:04:011 (9,10) - ^
01:11:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Too much stream for Hard
01:21:104 (1) - Better start spinner here and put element to replace the space

[Insane]

00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part looks like Hard to me. Add more note and if you do you should add clap to some of missings
00:06:104 (3) - Make it symmetric?
00:14:127 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - They are 1/3
00:21:104 (4) - Add note
00:21:801 (7) - ^
00:22:325 (10) - Start at 00:22:499 ?
00:26:685 (5) - Improve blanket a bit
00:38:546 (6) - Whistle to both part
00:49:011 (1,2,3) - use 30% for these 3 elements with whistle
01:05:755 (1) - Whistle to tail
01:13:604 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Whistle missing
01:23:894 (1) - End with 5% audio ?

Sorry I don't know any German

GL

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-05-25T15:26:06+00:00

SPOILER

AsprikaQ wrote:
omg nice map thanks :3

random mod. All suggestion.

[General]

- Put more of hitsounds please. I feel it lacks the power as the song is so powerful I'll try to, but I find it rather difficult to hitsound normal and easy diffs w/o using slidertick hitsounds

[Easy]

00:00:174 (1) - In Normal, you mapped this part so in Easy you should as well I will consider doing so. I had the problem that I didnt map anything good there, so I left that part on easy
00:19:011 (3) - Remove Whistle at tail
00:21:801 (3) - Whistle at head
00:34:708 (2) - Add whistle
00:42:034 (1) - how about this http://puu.sh/90BNa.jpg like that idea, applied
01:00:871 (3) - Remove clap at head
01:15:522 (1) - Whistle head
01:23:894 (1) - End with 5% audio ? applied all the hitsound mods

[Normal]

Try to put some elements in half-beat line would be good.

00:10:639 (3) - Remove Whistle a tail changed
00:14:127 (1,2) - 1/3 changed combo in general
01:26:947 (1) - End spinner here with 5% audio? yup

[Insane]

00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This part looks like Hard to me. Add more note and if you do you should add clap to some of missings added some notes. the hitsounds are the same though, they're supposed to be like this
00:06:104 (3) - Make it symmetric? i assume it is?
00:14:127 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - They are 1/3 each slider starts on the bass-y sound so I guess its fine
00:21:104 (4) - Add note
00:21:801 (7) - ^
00:22:325 (10) - Start at 00:22:499 ? added the 2 notes and also changed the combo in general. you gave me an idea there
00:26:685 (5) - Improve blanket a bit did so
00:38:546 (6) - Whistle to both part changed
00:49:011 (1,2,3) - use 30% for these 3 elements with whistle sounds good, changed
01:05:755 (1) - Whistle to tail yep
01:13:604 (2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Whistle missing added where I think they should be
01:23:894 (1) - End with 5% audio ? yup

Sorry I don't know any German GL

Thanks :3 Notes inside

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-05-26T08:11:54+00:00

AsprikaQ wrote:
[Hard]
00:00:174 (1) - Remove finish
Sure.
00:12:557 (4) - Violin sound actually starts at 00:12:732
I think it's ok.
00:26:685 (6) - Replace with spinner?
Nah.
00:46:918 (1,2,3) - Too far in Hard.
Moved them a bit closer.
00:48:313 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
^
01:04:011 (9,10) - ^
Got rid of the jump.
01:11:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Too much stream for Hard
I think it's ok. If more people comment on it I'll think about changing it, but for now I like it as it is.
01:21:104 (1) - Better start spinner here and put element to replace the space
Sure.

SPOILER

osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: The Everlasting Guilty Crown.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 2000
PreviewTime: 49009
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.4
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 2
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.3

[Metadata]
Title:The Everlasting Guilty Crown (TV Size)
TitleUnicode:The Everlasting Guilty Crown (TV Size)
Artist:EGOIST
ArtistUnicode:EGOIST
Creator:Yauxo
Version:Samah's Hard
Source:Guilty Crown
Tags:samah ryo supercell chelly opening
BeatmapID:418630
BeatmapSetID:173234

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:7
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:1

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Garven

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Garven 2014-05-26T17:05:32+00:00

Why would you overmap the intro aaaaa

Yauxo

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Yauxo 2014-05-26T20:31:30+00:00

Garven wrote:
Why would you overmap the intro aaaaa

Whelp, following mods I suppose. I guess I might take a look over it again and might revert it.
Iam still inexperienced ;w;

Come[Back]Home

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Come[Back]Home 2014-05-31T14:27:41+00:00

Easy
00:22:499 (1) Make this more curvy
00:25:290 (1) ^
00:42:732 (2) Move it to x:256 y:136

Normal
00:14:127 (1) Maybe like this

SPOILER

00:30:871 (1) Whistle here?
00:33:662 (1) ^
00:36:453 (1) ^
00:39:243 (1) ^
00:44:825 (1) ^
01:09:592 (4) Add Clap

Samah's Hard
00:00:174 (1) Maybe like this

SPOILER

00:02:964 (1) ^

Insane
00:22:150 (4,5) Why did you change the Distance here? I don't think its necessary

A very nice map :3
Good luck with it

Yauxo

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Yauxo 2014-05-31T20:04:48+00:00

SPOILER

Come[Back]Home wrote:
Easy
00:22:499 (1) Make this more curvy
00:25:290 (1) ^ i think they're fine like this
00:42:732 (2) Move it to x:256 y:136 that'd mess up the spacing. I'd say its fine like this

Normal
00:14:127 (1) Maybe like this I had it like this before, the problem here is that there's a 1/3 beat and a 1/4 after that, which is not possible to map out in a repeatable slider
00:30:871 (1) Whistle here?
00:33:662 (1) ^
00:36:453 (1) ^
00:39:243 (1) ^
00:44:825 (1) ^
01:09:592 (4) Add Clap applied all of them

Insane
00:22:150 (4,5) Why did you change the Distance here? I don't think its necessary i (re)mapped it like this so that it a: feels like a speed-build-up so that the following combo (00:22:848 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ) doesnt appear so sudden

A very nice map :3 Thanks :3
Good luck with it

Thanks alot :3 (also ty for the kd :3)

pishifat

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pishifat 2014-05-31T22:22:15+00:00

m4m from your queue. you updated the map while i was modding, so there may be some overlaps :/

Easy

i'd consider moving this down to circle size 2 since there's normal and hard also use CS3
all of the other difficulties start at the offset marker while this difficulty starts a bit later. it's not necessarily a problem but inconsistency is kind of weird

Yauxo wrote:
I am rather unsure about the Easy and Normal hitsounds so feel free to point mistakes out.
hitsounds: i'm assuming a lot about the patterns you're going with, so if it doesn't follow it exactly, feel free to ignore stuff.

section 1: 00:05:755 (1) - to 00:28:080 (1) -
00:08:546 (1) - should have a whistle on head
00:10:639 (3) - unnecessary whistle on tail
00:14:127 (1,2) - follow what you did with 00:15:522 (3,4) -
00:16:918 (1) - whistle on reverse and tail
00:19:708 (1) - whistle on all the stuffs
00:25:290 (1) - on reverse
00:26:685 - i'd make hitsound volume slightly lower here since the song gets rid of the backbeat drums (something like 40-50%), then keep 00:27:383 (2) - hitsound-less

section 2: 00:28:080 (1) - to 00:50:406 (1) -
00:34:708 (2) - should be a clap instead of a whistle
00:49:011 - i think when you transfered from insane to easy, you deleted a tick here that lowered hitsound volume since it originally had an SV change. because of that, hitsounds in the area right before climax are really loud and should be lowered. i thought 45% sounded good but you've got 30% in insane so do what you want

section 3: 00:50:406 (1) - to 01:23:894 (1) -
00:50:406 (1) - missing the whistle on tail
00:53:197 (1) - whistle on head
00:58:778 (1) - whistle on everything
01:06:453 (3) - whistle on head
if you're feeling like doing extra work, you could make hitsounds steadily get louder for 01:21:104 (1,2,3,4) - so one new green tick per object, starting at like 60% and going up by 5. would follow the sort of build up to nothing that the song has at that section.

non-hitsound stuff:
00:08:546 (1) - not that it's important, but you could stack the reverse part of this under 00:05:755 (1) -
00:10:639 (3) - you could make this curve into the next note a bit better, since the slight offset doesn't seem intentional
curvezor
00:11:336 (1) - the middle of the slider here leaves the grid a bit too much. i believe you're supposed to keep at least 1/2 of the width in the grid at all times, since you can't place circles past 1/2 diameter outside the grid either. it also overlaps the key binding stuff in 4:3
4:3sadness
01:23:196 (4) - apparently this isn't snapped (ty aibot)
01:27:034 - no reason to have a new inherited section here

Normal

hitsounds:

section 0: 00:00:174 (1) - to 00:04:360 (3) -

having the clap on the reverses of those sliders doesn't fit too well i think. it sounds like you put it onto the circles because the guitar went lower pitch there, so i'd say put the claps on the slider tails since the same sound is present there.

section 1: 00:05:755 (1) - to 00:28:080 (1) -
00:08:546 (1) - missing the whistles on head/reverse
00:14:127 (1,2) - missing whistles on heads
00:16:918 (1) - whistle on tail
00:18:313 (3) - whistle on head
00:19:708 (1) - whistle on the everythings
00:21:801 (3) - head
00:22:499 (1) - head/reverse
00:25:290 (1) - tail
00:26:685 - i'd make hitsound volume slightly lower here since the song gets rid of the backbeat drums (something like 40-50%), then keep 00:26:685 (3,4) - hitsound-less

section 2: 00:28:080 (1) - to 00:50:406 (1) -
00:36:453 (1) - missing the whistle on reverse
00:40:639 (3) - whistle on tail
00:43:778 (2) - clap should not be there
00:46:569 (2) - ^
00:47:615 (1) - whistle on tail
00:48:662 (3) - clapzor
00:49:011 - same thing as in easy. i'd not include any hitsounds there too

section 3: 00:50:406 (1) - to 01:01:569 (1) -
i'm not sure if keeping the whistles off during this first kiai time was intentional, so i won't say you need to add them. if you do want to add them, you should know where already
01:00:871 (4) - needs clap on tail

section 3.5: 01:01:569 (1) - to 01:23:894 (1) -
01:01:569 (1) - whistle on reverse/tail
01:04:360 (1) - whistle on tail
01:05:755 (3) - ^
01:09:593 (4) - clap
01:12:732 (1) - whistle on reverse/tail
01:14:825 (3) - whistle
01:15:522 (1) - ^on head
same thing i said about extra work in easy with steady volume increase could apply here too
01:23:894 (1) - whistle

non-hitsound stuff:
00:07:848 (4,1) - flow here seems kind of weird. same sort of idea as this from easy:
differentobjectstho
00:14:127 (1,2) - spacing here seems intentional, but it's probably not necessary. as far as i know, normals should have the same spacing throughout without exception :/
00:27:383 (4,1) - ^similar, but this jump is slightly higher (1.2x instead of 1.1x). i'd actually rotate 3 and 4 clockwise so that the blanket with next combo's 2 is nicer
x
00:28:080 (1,2,3) - current layout of these makes for a bad blanket. i'd move 2 and 3 to do something like this
z
01:07:150 (1,2,3) - seems like these would be better if symmetrical
01:20:406 (3) - i think it would be better to have this curved, since the next section is supposed to be different as indicated by the song and your straight sliders

Samah's Hard

dayum. fancy. hopefully easy becomes CS2

kiai time is inconsistent with yauxo's (although i like this one better :3)
might want to end at the same point as yauxo's difficulties
00:27:557 (7,8,9,1) - these play pretty weirdly since 00:26:685 (6) - is on a white tick and 00:27:557 (7) - is on a red tick. there's nothing indicating it needs to start on the red tick, so i'd say start that on one of 7's surrounding white ticks (i prefer the 1st one)
hur
00:38:546 (1,2,3) - dat jump. most likely too much for a "hard" difficulty. you've got a similar jump later on with 1.8x DS and i think that may be better, but i really don't think that quiet guitar line justifies something so intense. my opinion is that you should get rid of the jump completely, but i doubt that's convincing enough for you since your map is sort of stylized with the fancy circle size (the guitar thing is also at 00:37:848 (1,2,3) - accompanied by the piano line, but it's not emphasized in the mapping)
00:46:918 (1,2,3) - really don't see anything to indicate jumps like these here. musically, it sounds exactly the same as the rest of this section.
00:47:267 (3,1) - only applies if you keep these^ jumps: reading between these two circles can be pretty confusing. it seems like 1 could be a part of the previous jump section due to spacing being almost exactly half that of the jumps. stacking it like you did with the previous jump thing would be best
00:47:615 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 01:11:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - yeah
01:21:104 (1) - would be better to have the hitvolume on this be extremely quiet at 01:23:894 - since it's way louder than the piano stuff there

Insane

i won't comment on specific hitsounds, but they're kind of messy in the section before the claps come in at 00:28:080 (1) - that first guitar intro section is also really weird sounding. using some of samah's custom hitsounds may be better, or it could just be their placement.
00:21:453 - feels rather empty here. there's some bass drum thing repeating on every whole # beat, so there shouldn't be any white ticks ignored (which this one is). i'd just make 5 into a 1/2 slider. if you do that, you might want to reconsider the way you have combos set up so that it resembles 00:18:139 (5,1,2,3,4,1) -
00:48:662 (2) - SV should be 1x instead of 0.75x here since the "slower" section comes after this
01:09:591 (4) - apparently this isn't snapped either.
01:13:604 (2,3,1) - spacing here should be equal. linear pattern where circle in between is closer to one slider than the other looks and plays weirdly

kbai

Yauxo

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Yauxo 2014-06-01T00:29:40+00:00

SPOILER

pishifat wrote:
m4m from your queue. you updated the map while i was modding, so there may be some overlaps :/

Easy
i'd consider moving this down to circle size 2 since there's normal and hard also use CS3 good point, but I really dislike cs2 on it (not only since it looks really messy
all of the other difficulties start at the offset marker while this difficulty starts a bit later. it's not necessarily a problem but inconsistency is kind of weird

Yauxo wrote:
I am rather unsure about the Easy and Normal hitsounds so feel free to point mistakes out.
hitsounds: i'm assuming a lot about the patterns you're going with, so if it doesn't follow it exactly, feel free to ignore stuff.

section 1: 00:05:755 (1) - to 00:28:080 (1) -
00:08:546 (1) - should have a whistle on head changed
00:10:639 (3) - unnecessary whistle on tail i dont actually think so as the piano(?) has a sound there as well
00:14:127 (1,2) - follow what you did with 00:15:522 (3,4) - changed
00:16:918 (1) - whistle on reverse and tail changed
00:19:708 (1) - whistle on all the stuffs changed
00:25:290 (1) - on reverse changed
00:26:685 - i'd make hitsound volume slightly lower here since the song gets rid of the backbeat drums (something like 40-50%), then keep 00:27:383 (2) - hitsound-less isnt it?

section 2: 00:28:080 (1) - to 00:50:406 (1) -
00:34:708 (2) - should be a clap instead of a whistle changed
00:49:011 - i think when you transfered from insane to easy, you deleted a tick here that lowered hitsound volume since it originally had an SV change. because of that, hitsounds in the area right before climax are really loud and should be lowered. i thought 45% sounded good but you've got 30% in insane so do what you want probably, changed that

section 3: 00:50:406 (1) - to 01:23:894 (1) -
00:50:406 (1) - missing the whistle on tail changed
00:53:197 (1) - whistle on head changed
00:58:778 (1) - whistle on everything changed
01:06:453 (3) - whistle on head changed
if you're feeling like doing extra work, you could make hitsounds steadily get louder for 01:21:104 (1,2,3,4) - so one new green tick per object, starting at like 60% and going up by 5. would follow the sort of build up to nothing that the song has at that section. added that, i like that idea :3

non-hitsound stuff:
00:08:546 (1) - not that it's important, but you could stack the reverse part of this under 00:05:755 (1) - didnt even think about that
00:10:639 (3) - you could make this curve into the next note a bit better, since the slight offset doesn't seem intentional changed
curvezor
00:11:336 (1) - the middle of the slider here leaves the grid a bit too much. i believe you're supposed to keep at least 1/2 of the width in the grid at all times, since you can't place circles past 1/2 diameter outside the grid either. it also overlaps the key binding stuff in 4:3 16:9 masterrace, changed it with the change above (i think)
4:3sadness
01:23:196 (4) - apparently this isn't snapped (ty aibot) ok.png I literally have no idea why this "isnt snapped". its a copy paste from the sliders before
01:27:034 - no reason to have a new inherited section here true
Normal

hitsounds:

section 0: 00:00:174 (1) - to 00:04:360 (3) -
having the clap on the reverses of those sliders doesn't fit too well i think. it sounds like you put it onto the circles because the guitar went lower pitch there, so i'd say put the claps on the slider tails since the same sound is present there.

section 1: 00:05:755 (1) - to 00:28:080 (1) -
00:08:546 (1) - missing the whistles on head/reverse changed
00:14:127 (1,2) - missing whistles on heads changed
00:16:918 (1) - whistle on tail changed
00:18:313 (3) - whistle on head changed
00:19:708 (1) - whistle on the everythings changeds
00:21:801 (3) - head changed
00:22:499 (1) - head/reverse changed
00:25:290 (1) - tail changed
00:26:685 - i'd make hitsound volume slightly lower here since the song gets rid of the backbeat drums (something like 40-50%), then keep 00:26:685 (3,4) - hitsound-less same as in easy, I think it is?

section 2: 00:28:080 (1) - to 00:50:406 (1) -
00:36:453 (1) - missing the whistle on reverse changed
00:40:639 (3) - whistle on tail changed
00:43:778 (2) - clap should not be there changed
00:46:569 (2) - ^ changed
00:47:615 (1) - whistle on tail changed
00:48:662 (3) - clapzor changz0r
00:49:011 - same thing as in easy. i'd not include any hitsounds there too 30%'d

section 3: 00:50:406 (1) - to 01:01:569 (1) -
i'm not sure if keeping the whistles off during this first kiai time was intentional, so i won't say you need to add them. if you do want to add them, you should know where already
01:00:871 (4) - needs clap on tail

section 3.5: 01:01:569 (1) - to 01:23:894 (1) -
01:01:569 (1) - whistle on reverse/tail changed
01:04:360 (1) - whistle on tail changed
01:05:755 (3) - ^ changed
01:09:593 (4) - clap changed
01:12:732 (1) - whistle on reverse/tail changed
01:14:825 (3) - whistle changed
01:15:522 (1) - ^on head changed
same thing i said about extra work in easy with steady volume increase could apply here too did so
01:23:894 (1) - whistle changed

non-hitsound stuff:
00:07:848 (4,1) - flow here seems kind of weird. same sort of idea as this from easy: changed (a bit)
differentobjectstho
00:14:127 (1,2) - spacing here seems intentional, but it's probably not necessary. as far as i know, normals should have the same spacing throughout without exception :/ changed, happened as i applied a change to the combo there. probably scrolled up without noticing
00:27:383 (4,1) - ^similar, but this jump is slightly higher (1.2x instead of 1.1x). i'd actually rotate 3 and 4 clockwise so that the blanket with next combo's 2 is nicer changed, nice find for sure (iam dumb)
x
00:28:080 (1,2,3) - current layout of these makes for a bad blanket. i'd move 2 and 3 to do something like this I'll think about it
z
01:07:150 (1,2,3) - seems like these would be better if symmetrical theyre fine imo
01:20:406 (3) - i think it would be better to have this curved, since the next section is supposed to be different as indicated by the song and your straight sliders changed
Insane
i won't comment on specific hitsounds, but they're kind of messy in the section before the claps come in at 00:28:080 (1) - that first guitar intro section is also really weird sounding. using some of samah's custom hitsounds may be better, or it could just be their placement. for the one in the intro; if you take away the hitsounds you'll hear some sort of silent clapping -> whats what ive hitsounded
00:21:453 - feels rather empty here. there's some bass drum thing repeating on every whole # beat, so there shouldn't be any white ticks ignored (which this one is). i'd just make 5 into a 1/2 slider. if you do that, you might want to reconsider the way you have combos set up so that it resembles 00:18:139 (5,1,2,3,4,1) - ill put it on the to do list >< I really dont want to change the combo after it, so finding a way to fix this (at 2:30 am) is not so easy
00:48:662 (2) - SV should be 1x instead of 0.75x here since the "slower" section comes after this ugh, this one is difficult to fix for me as i dont want to touch any other combo
01:09:591 (4) - apparently this isn't snapped either. dont ask me why, i just cant get rid of it for some reason
01:13:604 (2,3,1) - spacing here should be equal. linear pattern where circle in between is closer to one slider than the other looks and plays weirdly changed, probably a leftover from moving either combo
kbai kkthybaihavesumkdndtksforone

Thanks alot, notes inside (fuk yes hitsounds) (I will m4m tomorrow)

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-01T12:36:25+00:00

Come[Back]Home wrote:
Samah's Hard
00:00:174 (1) Maybe like this
SPOILER
00:02:964 (1) ^
Looks good, thanks.

pishifat wrote:
Samah's Hard

dayum. fancy. hopefully easy becomes CS2
kiai time is inconsistent with yauxo's (although i like this one better :3)
might want to end at the same point as yauxo's difficulties
00:27:557 (7,8,9,1) - these play pretty weirdly since 00:26:685 (6) - is on a white tick and 00:27:557 (7) - is on a red tick. there's nothing indicating it needs to start on the red tick, so i'd say start that on one of 7's surrounding white ticks (i prefer the 1st one)
hur

Deleted the first one instead.
00:38:546 (1,2,3) - dat jump. most likely too much for a "hard" difficulty. you've got a similar jump later on with 1.8x DS and i think that may be better, but i really don't think that quiet guitar line justifies something so intense. my opinion is that you should get rid of the jump completely, but i doubt that's convincing enough for you since your map is sort of stylized with the fancy circle size (the guitar thing is also at 00:37:848 (1,2,3) - accompanied by the piano line, but it's not emphasized in the mapping)
Changed slightly.
00:46:918 (1,2,3) - really don't see anything to indicate jumps like these here. musically, it sounds exactly the same as the rest of this section.
^
00:47:267 (3,1) - only applies if you keep these^ jumps: reading between these two circles can be pretty confusing. it seems like 1 could be a part of the previous jump section due to spacing being almost exactly half that of the jumps. stacking it like you did with the previous jump thing would be best
^
00:47:615 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - 01:11:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - yeah
I cut this back a lot.
01:21:104 (1) - would be better to have the hitvolume on this be extremely quiet at 01:23:894 - since it's way louder than the piano stuff there
I silenced it.

Thanks folks.

Iceskulls

1,612 posts

Joined February 2012

Iceskulls 2014-06-02T14:43:05+00:00

Hi
Coming from my maps to mod your map

[General]
Uncheck widescreen support because you didn't do SB
Suggest Kiai time 00:50:406 - to 00:56:685 - and 01:01:569 - to 01:07:150 -

[Easy]
00:26:685 - Suggest add spinner 00:26:685 - to 00:27:732 -
00:37:848 (2) - Suggest move to x=80 y=220
00:39:941 - Suggest rhythm http://puu.sh/9bQSn/c21641aa26.jpg
01:04:360 - Suggest rhythm http://puu.sh/9bQCJ/af88114cb5.jpg
01:05:755 - Suggest https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1669806

[Normal]
00:05:755 (1) - Head remove finish add clap ( This is first time I mod hitsounds my hitsounds opinion might not useful)
00:49:011 - Change 00:49:011 (1) - to one repeat slider remove 00:49:708 (2) -

[Samah's Hard]
00:17:964 (5) - Ctrl+H better flow
00:22:848 - Suggest rhythm http://puu.sh/9bS5I/bd08ea788d.jpg

[Insane]
00:14:127 (1,2) - Overlap looks bad
00:25:987 - end of 00:25:987 (3) - stack end of 00:26:336 (4) -
00:34:011 (2,3) - Blanket

Good luck
EGOIST <3

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-02T16:53:45+00:00

SPOILER

CelsiusLK wrote:
Hi
Coming from my maps to mod your map awesome :3

[General]
Uncheck widescreen support because you didn't do SB i thought about adding the video, might do that
Suggest Kiai time 00:50:406 - to 00:56:685 - and 01:01:569 - to 01:07:150 - i talked to samah, we'll keep the kiai as it is now

[Easy]
00:26:685 - Suggest add spinner 00:26:685 - to 00:27:732 -
00:37:848 (2) - Suggest move to x=80 y=220 the way it is mapped right is so that it flows into 2 more. i'll think about a change though
00:39:941 - Suggest rhythm http://puu.sh/9bQSn/c21641aa26.jpg i want to avoid 1/2 hits on easy
01:04:360 - Suggest rhythm http://puu.sh/9bQCJ/af88114cb5.jpg changed
01:05:755 - Suggest https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1669806 fine imo

[Normal]
00:05:755 (1) - Head remove finish add clap ( This is first time I mod hitsounds my hitsounds opinion might not useful) the finish is there because there's a loud sound that fits the finish more than it would fit the clap. (finish is less audible/silent = match)
00:49:011 - Change 00:49:011 (1) - to one repeat slider remove 00:49:708 (2) - having it like this is fine imo

[Samah's Hard]
00:17:964 (5) - Ctrl+H better flow
00:22:848 - Suggest rhythm http://puu.sh/9bS5I/bd08ea788d.jpg

[Insane]
00:14:127 (1,2) - Overlap looks bad i like it though
00:25:987 - end of 00:25:987 (3) - stack end of 00:26:336 (4) - I really like those half overlapping patterns so I'd prefer to keep it
00:34:011 (2,3) - Blanket blanketing this would create a weird flow (even more than it was). changed 00:34:534 (4) - though

Good luck
EGOIST <3 :3

Thanks notes inside :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-03T08:33:05+00:00

CelsiusLK wrote:
[Samah's Hard]
00:17:964 (5) - Ctrl+H better flow
I disagree, sorry.
00:22:848 - Suggest rhythm http://puu.sh/9bS5I/bd08ea788d.jpg
That doesn't follow the music.

Pandiar

391 posts

Joined February 2012

Pandiar 2014-06-04T09:28:01+00:00

Hi ~ from my Q

[General]

uncheck the widescreen sup in Easy,Normal and Hard

[Insane]
AR+1
00:10:813 (4) - x292 y20
00:19:360 (3) - how about x384 y348?
00:23:197 (3,4) - more jump example:x308 y344 and x248 y292
00:26:336 (4) - overlap is not beautiful
00:33:313 (5) - ^
00:34:534 (4) - ^
00:39:767 (3) - ^
01:07:848 (1,2,3,4) - how about this?

SPOILER

(2) - x404 y132
(3)(4) is copy of 01:07:848 (1,2)

01:09:243 (3) - x208 y56?

[Hard]

looks good

[Normal]
00:35:057 (3) - add whistle
01:12:732 (1) - ^
00:54:592 (3) - add whistle to start and end points
00:58:080 (3) - add whistle start point
01:01:569 (1) - ^

[Easy]
00:10:639 (3) - remove whistle from end point
00:22:499 (1) - add whistle to start point
01:00:871 (3) - ^
01:14:127 (2) - ^

good luck ! >3<

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-04T11:02:16+00:00

SPOILER

Pandiar wrote:
Hi ~ from my Q

[General]
uncheck the widescreen sup in Easy,Normal and Hard

[Insane]
AR+1 I like to have this AR8 for DTability
00:10:813 (4) - x292 y20 changed
00:19:360 (3) - how about x384 y348? yup
00:23:197 (3,4) - more jump example:x308 y344 and x248 y292
00:26:336 (4) - overlap is not beautiful I had to explain it to others too, i really like this kind of overlaps (there are more of these (as the next few points indicate) no change to them
00:33:313 (5) - ^
00:34:534 (4) - ^
00:39:767 (3) - ^
01:07:848 (1,2,3,4) - how about this? yup

(2) - x404 y132
(3)(4) is copy of 01:07:848 (1,2)

01:09:243 (3) - x208 y56? I think that one's fine, as it's supposed to have about the same spacing as the square before it

[Normal]
00:35:057 (3) - add whistle
01:12:732 (1) - ^
00:54:592 (3) - add whistle to start and end points
00:58:080 (3) - add whistle start point
01:01:569 (1) - ^ changed all

[Easy]
00:10:639 (3) - remove whistle from end point i like to have one there as there's a beat that should have a whistle there (for me)
00:22:499 (1) - add whistle to start point changed
01:00:871 (3) - ^ changed
01:14:127 (2) - ^ changed

good luck ! >3<
thanks :3

Thanks, notes inside :3

Mao

Elite Mapper II

2,963 posts

Joined December 2012

Mao 2014-06-05T20:00:11+00:00

We've fixed some placement and rhythm as well as an unsnapped object and an unneeded inherited point. Good luck~

IRC

2014-06-05 21:02 Mao: WARTE MAL
2014-06-05 21:02 Mao: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/418630 EGOIST - The Everlasting Guilty Crown (TV Size)]
2014-06-05 21:02 Mao: die map ist von dir?
2014-06-05 21:02 Mao: die hat mir mein bruder vorgestern gezeigt
2014-06-05 21:02 Mao: random
2014-06-05 21:02 Mao: als wir maps durchgescrollt haben
2014-06-05 21:03 Yauxo: yup
2014-06-05 21:04 Yauxo: bis auf die hard ofc
2014-06-05 21:05 Mao: hm, die ist sogar recht gut
2014-06-05 21:05 Mao: xD
2014-06-05 21:05 Mao: auch wenn 1/2 overlaps meist scheiße aussehen imo
2014-06-05 21:05 Yauxo: möchte ich hoffen D: soll die erste ranked werden~
2014-06-05 21:05 Mao: jaaaa, rankable auf jeden
2014-06-05 21:05 Yauxo: ich weiß nicht was jeder dagegen hat
2014-06-05 21:06 Mao: sieht ein wenig random aus
2014-06-05 21:06 Mao: unstrukturiert
2014-06-05 21:06 Mao: weil das spacing teilweise nicht konstant dadurch ist
2014-06-05 21:06 Mao: ich hab nicht gegen alle was
2014-06-05 21:06 Yauxo: sollte es aber sein
2014-06-05 21:07 Yauxo: bzw, alle sind so gemappt wie die sein sollen* Ich mag die halben overlaps
2014-06-05 21:07 Mao: naja, ich find den stil ganz interessant
2014-06-05 21:07 Mao: 00:32:964 (4,5) - find das hier aber hässlich
2014-06-05 21:07 Mao: den flow auch nicht so gut
2014-06-05 21:07 Yauxo: okay, bei dem stimm ich zu
2014-06-05 21:08 Mao: wegen dem übergang von 4 -> 5
2014-06-05 21:08 Yauxo: yep
2014-06-05 21:08 Yauxo: der wurd wir auch öfters mal rausgesucht, didnt bother changing yet
2014-06-05 21:08 Mao: 00:34:185 (3,4) - ich find ich den flow gut, aber den overlap scheiße
2014-06-05 21:09 Yauxo: der ist wegen 00:35:755 (4) - so
2014-06-05 21:09 Yauxo: was hälst du von nem triangle? http://puu.sh/9guc7/66cf0994b7.jpg
2014-06-05 21:10 Mao: huh website offline
2014-06-05 21:10 Mao: http://puu.sh/9gu9U/1a80934265.jpg
2014-06-05 21:10 Mao: das hier wäre meine suggestion
2014-06-05 21:10 Mao: http://puu.sh/9guhT/9d11b9ce5d.jpg
2014-06-05 21:10 Yauxo: dann müsst ich eben mal schauen wie ich den rest umbauen würde
2014-06-05 21:10 Mao: oh jetzt gehts
2014-06-05 21:11 Yauxo: yep
2014-06-05 21:11 Mao: http://puu.sh/9gukG/973dc1e76a.jpg
2014-06-05 21:11 Mao: bisschen noch spacing anpassen
2014-06-05 21:11 Mao: dann geht das
2014-06-05 21:12 Mao: 00:55:115 (2,3) - dat overmap
2014-06-05 21:12 Yauxo: wobei der übergang jetzt leicht weird ist http://puu.sh/9guqu/8e6e66ea7b.jpg
2014-06-05 21:12 Yauxo: so overmap find ich das jetzt nicht D:
2014-06-05 21:12 Mao: es hört sich total scheiße an
2014-06-05 21:12 Mao: das ist mir im testplay aufgefallen
2014-06-05 21:12 Mao: xD
2014-06-05 21:13 Mao: die drums auf dem weißen tick sind so laut
2014-06-05 21:13 Yauxo: 00:55:115 (2) - langes mo, 00:55:464 (3) - mono (wenns mono ist)
2014-06-05 21:13 Mao: und auf dem blauen ist nix
2014-06-05 21:13 Mao: naja, stimmt
2014-06-05 21:13 Mao: aber der weiße tick
2014-06-05 21:13 Mao: das fühlt sich komisch an
2014-06-05 21:13 Mao: :/+
2014-06-05 21:14 Yauxo: hum
2014-06-05 21:14 Mao: triplet wär vielleicht besser
2014-06-05 21:14 Yauxo: ich weiß was du meinst
2014-06-05 21:14 Mao: oder halt 2 1/2 Slider
2014-06-05 21:14 Yauxo: white blue red triplet?
2014-06-05 21:14 Mao: yep
2014-06-05 21:14 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/9guEN/eca72b0bce.jpg
2014-06-05 21:15 Mao: joa, sieht gut aus
2014-06-05 21:15 Yauxo: das passt
2014-06-05 21:15 Yauxo: :3
2014-06-05 21:15 Mao: naja, aber viel glück beim ersten rank ;b
2014-06-05 21:16 Mao: wär ich BAT würd ichs wahrscheinlich bubblen wenn du noch ein paar mods suchen würdest und die anderen diffs der selben qualität entsprechen
2014-06-05 21:16 Yauxo: war schon was, passt :3 posts einfach rein, kleine irc mod ist auch ne mod
2014-06-05 21:16 Mao: nee, das ist nix wofür ich nen kudo brauche
2014-06-05 21:17 Yauxo: nagut :3
2014-06-05 21:17 Yauxo: trotzdem danke
2014-06-05 21:17 Mao: naja obwoooohl
2014-06-05 21:17 Mao: lass mich nochmal durchschauen
2014-06-05 21:17 Mao: xD
2014-06-05 21:19 Mao: sag mal, was ist dein triplet spacing?
2014-06-05 21:19 Mao: 1,0?
2014-06-05 21:19 Yauxo: uh
2014-06-05 21:19 Yauxo: yep
2014-06-05 21:19 Yauxo: anscheinend

2014-06-05 21:20 Mao: weil ich sehe hier variation zwischen 0,90 und 1,10
2014-06-05 21:20 Mao: bitte halte das konstant
2014-06-05 21:20 Mao: das wirkt total komisch
2014-06-05 21:20 Mao: 00:11:162 (5,6,1) - 1,10
2014-06-05 21:20 Mao: 00:11:860 (3,4,5) - 0,90
2014-06-05 21:20 Mao: ich seh hier wirklich keinen grund dafür
2014-06-05 21:21 Yauxo: true
2014-06-05 21:21 Yauxo: fixed
2014-06-05 21:22 Mao: 00:17:615 (3,4) - Durch den hold der vocals von weiß zu weiß wär hier ein 1/1 Slider besser imo
2014-06-05 21:22 Mao: betonung vom weißen würde auch stimmen, weil der slider auf dem roten danach mehr betont ist und somit die clickable/not clickable verteilung passt
2014-06-05 21:23 Yauxo: meinst du so? http://puu.sh/9gvpI/a0c9500ebe.jpg
2014-06-05 21:23 Mao: joa
2014-06-05 21:24 Yauxo: hum, ich hab eher dran gedacht 00:18:139 (4) - zu ändern
2014-06-05 21:24 Mao: nee
2014-06-05 21:24 Mao: der ist okay
2014-06-05 21:24 Mao: der followt den vocals gut
2014-06-05 21:24 Mao: und dem piano
2014-06-05 21:25 Yauxo: das war auch der eigentliche grund warum ich das so gemappt habe, nach ner zeit gefällt mir der aber irgendwie nichtmehr
2014-06-05 21:25 Yauxo: wegen den zwei random sounds mitten auf dem slider
2014-06-05 21:25 Mao: huh
2014-06-05 21:25 Mao: ich finds okay
2014-06-05 21:26 Yauxo: gut, dann muss ich ne shape für 3 finden
2014-06-05 21:26 Mao: lemme see
2014-06-05 21:26 Mao: ich hab auch keine richtige suggestion grade
2014-06-05 21:27 Yauxo: sowas sieht halt irgendwo weird aus http://puu.sh/9gvJl/c7ff827f14.jpg
2014-06-05 21:27 Yauxo: wobei
2014-06-05 21:27 Mao: ich finds eigentlich okay
2014-06-05 21:28 Yauxo: eben

2014-06-05 21:28 Mao: 00:21:278 (5,1) - die lücke hier wirkt komisch wegen den vocals, 1/1 würde passen
2014-06-05 21:28 Yauxo: ich pass den noch an
2014-06-05 21:28 Mao: das problem hier wäre placement
2014-06-05 21:28 Mao: da müsstest du alle umbauen
2014-06-05 21:28 Yauxo: yep, der war auch in ner mod
2014-06-05 21:28 Mao: wollte es aber nur mal anmerken
2014-06-05 21:28 Yauxo: habs bis heute noch nicht gechanged
2014-06-05 21:29 Mao: ist aber recht wichtig
2014-06-05 21:29 Mao: weils echt scheiße ist
2014-06-05 21:29 Mao: xD
2014-06-05 21:29 Yauxo: bin dabei
2014-06-05 21:30 Yauxo: ich machs einfach full 1.2
2014-06-05 21:30 Mao: 00:39:156 (5) - der Circle ist nicht intuitiv, hört sich blöd an
2014-06-05 21:30 Yauxo: wobei, nvm. habs
2014-06-05 21:31 Mao: 00:43:429 (1,2,3,4,5) - >Die Kurve kriegst du aber besser hin :V
2014-06-05 21:31 Mao: mit convert slider to stream
2014-06-05 21:31 Mao: so, dass 5 auch der kurve folgt
2014-06-05 21:31 Mao: für besseren flow
2014-06-05 21:32 Yauxo: ich habs so mit diesen halbscharfen kurven, wie hier auch 00:21:627 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2014-06-05 21:32 Yauxo: but a point is a point
2014-06-05 21:32 Mao: da find ich sie ja auch gut
2014-06-05 21:33 Mao: aber die, die ich dir aufgelistet hab find ich recht schlecht
2014-06-05 21:33 Mao: vor allem wegen dem flow von 4 in 5
2014-06-05 21:33 Yauxo: yep
2014-06-05 21:34 Yauxo: btw, zu der einen placement geschichte; http://puu.sh/9gwle/74aa56836e.jpg ?
2014-06-05 21:34 Mao: 00:52:325 (2) - 347|204 für gleichseitiges dreieck
2014-06-05 21:34 Mao: sieht gut aus
2014-06-05 21:35 Mao: 00:55:987 (5) - weiter runter für besseren flow von der 4 in die 5
2014-06-05 21:35 Mao: damits von der 3 aus kurviger ist
2014-06-05 21:35 Yauxo: hab die 1 beim dreieck geändert. würde sonst den rest abfucken
2014-06-05 21:35 Mao: http://puu.sh/9gwre/112cf37635.jpg
2014-06-05 21:36 Yauxo: habs n bisschen runter
2014-06-05 21:36 Mao: 01:16:220 (3,4) - Hier find ich den overlap scheiße
2014-06-05 21:36 Mao: nicht vom aussehen
2014-06-05 21:36 Mao: sondern aus nem anderen Grund
2014-06-05 21:36 Mao: consistency
2014-06-05 21:37 Mao: 01:15:522 (1,2) - = 01:16:220 (3,4) -
2014-06-05 21:37 Mao: imo
2014-06-05 21:37 Mao: deshalb sollte das spacing zwischen den noten auch gleich sein imo
2014-06-05 21:37 Yauxo: hum
2014-06-05 21:38 Mao: also es ist nicht das gleiche
2014-06-05 21:38 Mao: aber nicht so ein großer unterschied, dass das spacing gerechtfertigt ist
2014-06-05 21:38 Yauxo: die sache ist, wie würde ich das fixen wollen
2014-06-05 21:38 Yauxo: die combo besteht ja eigentlich nur weil ich die overlaps mag
2014-06-05 21:38 Yauxo: D:
2014-06-05 21:39 Yauxo: ich meine, nach unten ist ne option ... hmp
2014-06-05 21:39 Yauxo: f
2014-06-05 21:39 Mao: http://puu.sh/9gwMQ/3830b8b459.jpg
2014-06-05 21:39 Yauxo: ja eben D: ... whelp, der consistency halber
2014-06-05 21:40 Mao: ich finds wichtig an der stelle :/
2014-06-05 21:40 Yauxo: ist leider wahr
2014-06-05 21:40 Yauxo: sadface
2014-06-05 21:41 Mao: 00:49:011 (1,2) - 3/2 Slider please
2014-06-05 21:41 Mao: hört sich cooler an find ich
2014-06-05 21:41 Mao: wegen vocals
2014-06-05 21:41 Mao: und dem geräusch da
2014-06-05 21:42 Mao: http://puu.sh/9gx6i/a4b96c9814.jpg
2014-06-05 21:43 Yauxo: ich versuch grade nen passenden nicht-runden slider hinzubekommen
2014-06-05 21:43 Mao: runde slider sind aber toll q-q
2014-06-05 21:43 Mao: und der passt da
2014-06-05 21:43 Mao: wegen diesem geräusch
2014-06-05 21:44 Mao: was anderes passt da imo garnicht wegen der musik xD
2014-06-05 21:44 Yauxo: ich versuch so wenige runde slider wie möglich zu benutzen, i disliekz roundnezz D:
2014-06-05 21:44 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/9gxfc/078d1790ab.jpg hard auf dem tick
2014-06-05 21:45 Mao: ja gut, mach, was du willst xD
2014-06-05 21:45 Yauxo:

2014-06-05 21:45 hauptsache der 3/2 slider ist da *^*
2014-06-05 21:45 Mao: weil der da hingehört
2014-06-05 21:45 Yauxo: is it :3
2014-06-05 21:45 Mao: lemme check your hitsounding xD
2014-06-05 21:47 Mao: hm, gut
2014-06-05 21:47 Mao: normaler upbeat clap pattern
2014-06-05 21:47 Mao: anscheinend keine vergessen, sieht consistent aus
2014-06-05 21:47 Mao: 01:27:034 (1) - was macht der inherited point hier? xD
2014-06-05 21:47 Yauxo: whistle auf "ding" whoop
2014-06-05 21:47 Yauxo: der lebt noch von alten zeiten
2014-06-05 21:48 Yauxo: rip
2014-06-05 21:48 Mao: 01:09:591 (4) - OBJECT'S END NOT SNAPPED
2014-06-05 21:48 Yauxo: ICH WEI?
2014-06-05 21:48 Yauxo: ABER DER GEHT NICHT WEG
2014-06-05 21:48 Yauxo: KEWKEW
2014-06-05 21:48 Mao: verschieben
2014-06-05 21:48 Mao: wieder hin verschieben
2014-06-05 21:48 Mao: speichern
2014-06-05 21:48 Mao: aus map raus
2014-06-05 21:48 Mao: wieder rein
2014-06-05 21:48 Mao: bei mir gehts dann xD
2014-06-05 21:49 Mao: http://puu.sh/9gxE6/84630c0594.png
2014-06-05 21:49 Yauxo: hab ich schon mehrmals probiert, wollte nicht D: hab einfach 3 kopiert und neu gesetzt
2014-06-05 21:49 Mao: btw, dein stream spacing ist total falsch :/
2014-06-05 21:49 Mao: 00:47:615 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2014-06-05 21:49 Mao: das variiert zischwn 0,94 und 1,08
2014-06-05 21:49 Yauxo: ?
2014-06-05 21:49 Mao: bei sogut wie allen streams
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: nimm convert slider to stream für konstantes spacing
2014-06-05 21:50 Yauxo: gridsnap op
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: mach
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: für
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: streams
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: grid
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: snap
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: aus
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: bitte
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: oder
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: mappe
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: ohne
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: grid
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: snap
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: ich benutzt nur für slider shapes grid snap tiny
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: sonst komplett ohne
2014-06-05 21:50 Mao: xD
2014-06-05 21:51 Yauxo: fixd
2014-06-05 21:51 Mao: das ist auch bei all den anderen streams, ne?
2014-06-05 21:51 Mao: das solltest du auch fixen xD
2014-06-05 21:51 Yauxo: erste map, da macht man halt gridsnap an D:
2014-06-05 21:51 Yauxo: schon dabei
2014-06-05 21:51 Mao: aber wave slider machen sich gut mit gridsnap
2014-06-05 21:51 Mao: und symmetrische
2014-06-05 21:51 Mao: dafür braucht mans xD
2014-06-05 21:52 Mao: das ist deine erste map?
2014-06-05 21:53 Yauxo: eigentlich 2, aber die, die als erstes ranked soll
2014-06-05 21:53 Mao: 00:13:080 (4,5) - das hir ist vom rhythm her komisch, fällt mir grade auf. Das ist im Prinzip das selbe wiue 00:11:685 (2,3,4,5) -
2014-06-05 21:53 Mao: map das bitte auch so

Arlecchino

1,240 posts

Joined October 2013

Arlecchino 2014-06-07T15:42:47+00:00

[Easy]
so tired.. just open aimod..
01:23:196 (4) - unsnap :3

[Normal]
00:08:546 - make this slider more curved, so you can makes 00:10:290 (2) - blanket
00:34:708 (2,3) - blanket ?

[Samah's Hard]
fine i guess :3

[Insane]
00:26:685 (1) - remove reverse ? and add 1/2 slider 00:27:208 ?

1

00:26:685 (1,2,3,4) - suggest use 1.2x DS here.. but 1.0x it's not bad.. :3

2

00:29:825 (1,2) - how about blanketing.. :3 and 00:30:522 (3) - move to (232|240) ?

3

Hope this helped..

good luck with your map!~

FuFuLu

FuFuLu 2014-06-07T18:19:43+00:00

Hi~ Here's my modding!

[Easy]

Imo, it's perfect.
01:19:360 - suggestion: add a circle here and add "clap"

[Normal]

Perfect.

[Samah's Hard]

00:11:336 (1,2,3,4,5) - change like this

01:08:546 (3) - NC
01:09:941 (5) - NC

[Insane]

00:26:685 (1) - cancel reverse, slider ends at 00:27:208
00:38:894 (4) - add "clap"
00:49:708 (2) - change the slider into two circles

Imo, your map is nearly perfect. Hope my modding can help you.

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-07T19:52:23+00:00

fufulu

FuFuLu wrote:
Hi~ Here's my modding!

[Easy]

Imo, it's perfect.
01:19:360 - suggestion: add a circle here and add "clap" I kinda want to keep it like this to support song's loud .. what is that even? piano? D:

[Normal]

Perfect. :3

[Insane]

00:26:685 (1) - cancel reverse, slider ends at 00:27:208 This is supposed to fit to the vocals as well as that building/raising sound
00:38:894 (4) - add "clap" oops, fixed
00:49:708 (2) - change the slider into two circles I think its fine like this

Imo, your map is nearly perfect. Hope my modding can help you. thanks :3

asuna

-[ Asuna ]- wrote:
[Easy]
so tired.. just open aimod..
01:23:196 (4) - unsnap :3 fixed

[Normal]
00:08:546 - make this slider more curved, so you can makes 00:10:290 (2) - blanket changed
00:34:708 (2,3) - blanket ?

[Insane]
00:26:685 (1) - remove reverse ? and add 1/2 slider 00:27:208 ? its like this to support the buildup and the second slider is to help the slightly differently pitched buildup (if you know what i mean with that)

00:26:685 (1,2,3,4) - suggest use 1.2x DS here.. but 1.0x it's not bad.. :3 1.0 to be more consistent

00:29:825 (1,2) - how about blanketing.. :3 and 00:30:522 (3) - move to (232|240) ? nice idea, but this map was mapped to have such sliders like this (00:32:964 (4,5,1) - for example)

Hope this helped..

good luck with your map!~

Thanks :3

zinsser

52 posts

Joined December 2013

zinsser 2014-06-07T22:30:47+00:00

M4M from #modreqs!
~~https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/199977~~

seems that I can't give a lot of mods since the map itself is pretty good now.

To be honest, I don't think Easy & Normal are different xD look almost the same. Nvm

[Easy]

01:01:569 (1) - overlap with HP bar. Try to solve the problem by changing the blanketing...if i were you, I might remap this part...
01:07:150 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - I might put them like this (just refer to the position in the screenshot) chorus changes at 01:09:941 - so give the flow an angle here will be good.
01:26:816 - the very last spinner should ends here

[Normal]

00:28:080 (1,3) - shapes are not seemed that good looking to me. maybe change to something like this
01:26:816 - the very last spinner should ends here

[Hard]
Idk whether you intentionally mute some hitsounds, but it's kind of confusing to me when playing, because I often decide whether I miss click a note by listening to the sound.

00:00:174 (1) - curvy in the other way
00:20:929 (4,5) - this really kills the consistency and flow. To solve it, at least 5 NC.
00:27:732 (7) - delete this note
00:47:615 (1,2,3) - reduce DS to 0.8. I don't really like triples with high DS (should be lower than the DS through the map which is 1.2 here) 00:48:313 - same here and in Insane diff.
01:07:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I love it!

[Insane]
AR+1 (though you reject previous mod, but I agree that AR should be 9)

Reduce Triples' DS

00:11:162 -
00:11:860 -
00:12:557 -
00:13:255 -
00:13:953 -
00:27:906 - this one should be changed. Presently the shapes are messy
00:39:069 -
00:57:911 -

Other things to mention

00:19:011 (1,2,3,4) - kind of confusing now. 1-2 should be parallel to 3-4. For example:
00:50:057 - this stream is quite confusing. I'll just change 2 to the same length of 1 to follow vocal
01:11:336 (1) - rotate clockwise 21°
01:26:816 - the very last spinner should ends here

These are things I may change if I were you. Just take it as a reference xD

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-07T23:12:36+00:00

SPOILER

zinsser wrote:
M4M from #modreqs!
~~https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/199977~~

seems that I can't give a lot of mods since the map itself is pretty good now.

To be honest, I don't think Easy & Normal are different xD look almost the same. Nvm

[Easy]
01:01:569 (1) - overlap with HP bar. Try to solve the problem by changing the blanketing...if i were you, I might remap this part... changed
01:07:150 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - I might put them like this (just refer to the position in the screenshot) chorus changes at 01:09:941 - so give the flow an angle here will be good. changed as well
01:26:816 - the very last spinner should ends here dont think so, theres a bright sound just where it end
[Normal]
00:28:080 (1,3) - shapes are not seemed that good looking to me. maybe change to something like this i think theyre fine as they function as a blanket and as a .. how would I call that .. throw to the next circle?
01:26:816 - the very last spinner should ends here
[Hard]
Idk whether you intentionally mute some hitsounds, but it's kind of confusing to me when playing, because I often decide whether I miss click a note by listening to the sound.
00:00:174 (1) - curvy in the other way
00:20:929 (4,5) - this really kills the consistency and flow. To solve it, at least 5 NC.
00:27:732 (7) - delete this note
00:47:615 (1,2,3) - reduce DS to 0.8. I don't really like triples with high DS (should be lower than the DS through the map which is 1.2 here) 00:48:313 - same here and in Insane diff.
01:07:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I love it!
[Insane]
AR+1 (though you reject previous mod, but I agree that AR should be 9) ar8 for lightinsane and dtability, so iam still not intending to change this

Reduce Triples' DS
00:11:162 -
00:11:860 -
00:12:557 -
00:13:255 -
00:13:953 -
00:27:906 - this one should be changed. Presently the shapes are messy shape is fine for me http://puu.sh/9jvMr/f38c3ceb77.jpg
00:39:069 -
00:57:911 -
Other things to mention
00:19:011 (1,2,3,4) - kind of confusing now. 1-2 should be parallel to 3-4. For example: no change here, stylerelated (same goes for below)
00:50:057 - this stream is quite confusing. I'll just change 2 to the same length of 1 to follow vocal
01:11:336 (1) - rotate clockwise 21°
01:26:816 - the very last spinner should ends here

thanks :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-08T00:51:27+00:00

FuFuLu wrote:
Hi~ Here's my modding!
[Samah's Hard]
00:11:336 (1,2,3,4,5) - change like this
I don't really like that rhythm as it'll miss out on the guitar at 00:12:906.
01:08:546 (3) - NC
Hmm... ok.
01:09:941 (5) - NC
^

zinsser wrote:
[Hard]
Idk whether you intentionally mute some hitsounds, but it's kind of confusing to me when playing, because I often decide whether I miss click a note by listening to the sound.
There are no muted hitsounds.
00:00:174 (1) - curvy in the other way
Ehhh I like it how it is.
00:20:929 (4,5) - this really kills the consistency and flow. To solve it, at least 5 NC.
Ok.
00:27:732 (7) - delete this note
Ok, and I reorganised the sliders before it so I can still stack in the same spot.
00:47:615 (1,2,3) - reduce DS to 0.8. I don't really like triples with high DS (should be lower than the DS through the map which is 1.2 here) 00:48:313 - same here and in Insane diff.
Ok.
01:07:150 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I love it!
Ty XD <3

Done, took most suggestions.

Timorisu

771 posts

Joined November 2012

Timorisu 2014-06-13T14:46:35+00:00

'Allo

[Easy]

00:05:755 (1) - Snap to grid (for better overlay with 00:08:546 (1) - )

00:25:290 (1) - I don't think anti jumps in Easies are too good, they might confuse a new player (they could see the slider underneath and click immediately)

[Normal]

00:11:336 (1) - Snap to grid (for better overlay with 00:12:732 (3) - )

00:21:801 (3) - Really nazi but this blanket is off (the end of it)

00:26:947 (1) - ^

00:39:243 (1) - ^

00:41:336 (4) - ^

00:50:406 (1) - ^

01:04:360 (1) - ^

01:08:546 (3,4,1) - I'm just gonna guess you went for a straight line, but it's kinda really not one lol. I'd make a new slider, start it at the end of 3, drag it all the way through the start of 1 to the end of the grid (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1710313), and then readjust 4 and 1's sliderbody (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1710317). Don't forget to adjust the following sliders!

01:20:406 (3) - Stupid personal opinion, but maybe rotate this by like 10 degrees?

[Samah's Hard]

00:00:871 (4) - Nazi, but blanket is off

00:01:394 (5) - ^ since copy paste

00:13:778 (8) - ^

00:14:127 (1) - ^

00:14:825 (3) - A curvier curve would do better imo (why not just a direct copy paste of 00:14:127 (1) - )

00:16:918 (1) - Blanket is off again

00:19:708 (1) - Move the end up a bit

00:20:232 (2) - Move the end left a bit

00:20:929 (4,1) - This antijump is quite confusing, might want to re-place 4 (easier than chosing a new position for 1)

00:32:267 (5) - Move the middle inwards a bit

00:40:464 (4) - ^ but outwards

00:42:034 (1) - Blanket is really off

00:42:557 (2) - Again, a curvier curve would be better, why not just copy paste 00:42:034 (1) -

00:55:290 (8,9,10,1) - Although this looks neat it has questionable flow, might want to place 1 a bit further left and down for a more circular movement when getting out of 8

01:18:313 (1) - Blanket is kinda off

[Insane]

I suggest you to read up on active/passive sliders and hitsounding (although I'm still doing this myself I'd like to advise this to you . _.)

00:08:546 (1) - End is off, blanket-wise

00:09:069 (2) - Middle part is currently further away than the beginning

00:10:115 (2) - CTRL+G, place on 1's head, CTRL+G again

00:11:336 (1) - ^

00:21:627 (1,2,3,4) - If you're going for a square and not a diamond you should re-position 2 and 3 further to the right

00:39:767 (3) - Unneeded and kinda ugly overlap with 1 . _.

00:40:115 (4) - Blanket is off

00:46:918 (3) - ^

00:53:546 (2) - Unneeded overlap again

01:02:964 (1,2,3,4) - ^ This is an Insane, spacing them a bit further won't hurt anyone

01:06:278 (3) - Blanket is off

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-13T15:28:38+00:00

Timorisu

Timorisu wrote:
'Allo

[Easy]

00:05:755 (1) - Snap to grid (for better overlay with 00:08:546 (1) - ) changed

00:25:290 (1) - I don't think anti jumps in Easies are too good, they might confuse a new player (they could see the slider underneath and click immediately) true. Couldnt cope up with a "new" fix, so I copy pasted 00:22:499 (1) -

[Normal]

00:11:336 (1) - Snap to grid (for better overlay with 00:12:732 (3) - ) changed

00:21:801 (3) - Really nazi but this blanket is off (the end of it) changed

00:26:947 (1) - ^

00:39:243 (1) - ^ changed

00:41:336 (4) - ^ changed

00:50:406 (1) - ^ changed

01:04:360 (1) - ^ changed (i think)

01:08:546 (3,4,1) - I'm just gonna guess you went for a straight line, but it's kinda really not one lol. I'd make a new slider, start it at the end of 3, drag it all the way through the start of 1 to the end of the grid (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1710313), and then readjust 4 and 1's sliderbody (https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1710317). Don't forget to adjust the following sliders! I wasnt actually going for a straight line. Sometimes I like to use straight slider combos out of a curved singletap combo. This is probably supposed to be one, but it's messed up, so I'll give you that one. I'll think about fixing it/redoing this part, but I assume that I wont

01:20:406 (3) - Stupid personal opinion, but maybe rotate this by like 10 degrees? changed

[Insane]

I suggest you to read up on active/passive sliders and hitsounding (although I'm still doing this myself I'd like to advise this to you . _.) Ikr, it just happened I've adjusted most of it from the first finalized map and I actually think thats its fine atm

00:08:546 (1) - End is off, blanket-wise changed

00:09:069 (2) - Middle part is currently further away than the beginning changed

00:10:115 (2) - CTRL+G, place on 1's head, CTRL+G again changed

00:11:336 (1) - ^ changed

00:21:627 (1,2,3,4) - If you're going for a square and not a diamond you should re-position 2 and 3 further to the right

00:39:767 (3) - Unneeded and kinda ugly overlap with 1 . _. I basically build this diff with these in mind, so I'll keep these (I like them)

00:40:115 (4) - Blanket is off changed

00:46:918 (3) - ^

00:53:546 (2) - Unneeded overlap again

01:02:964 (1,2,3,4) - ^ This is an Insane, spacing them a bit further won't hurt anyone a tiny bit .. I guess D:

01:06:278 (3) - Blanket is off changed

Thanks :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-14T14:04:47+00:00

Timorisu wrote:
[Samah's Hard]
00:00:871 (4) - Nazi, but blanket is off
It's fine.
00:01:394 (5) - ^ since copy paste
^
00:13:778 (8) - ^
^
00:14:127 (1) - ^
^
00:14:825 (3) - A curvier curve would do better imo (why not just a direct copy paste of 00:14:127 (1) - )
^
00:16:918 (1) - Blanket is off again
^
00:19:708 (1) - Move the end up a bit
^
00:20:232 (2) - Move the end left a bit
^
00:20:929 (4,1) - This antijump is quite confusing, might want to re-place 4 (easier than chosing a new position for 1)
^
00:32:267 (5) - Move the middle inwards a bit
^
00:40:464 (4) - ^ but outwards
^
00:42:034 (1) - Blanket is really off
^
00:42:557 (2) - Again, a curvier curve would be better, why not just copy paste 00:42:034 (1) -
^
00:55:290 (8,9,10,1) - Although this looks neat it has questionable flow, might want to place 1 a bit further left and down for a more circular movement when getting out of 8
^
01:18:313 (1) - Blanket is kinda off
^

If you're going to spend an entire mod just picking blankets, give me slider code. Blankets don't have to maintain a perfect radius. As long as the start and end circles are the same distance, close enough is good enough. Players won't notice or care.
Thanks for your other suggestions, but I think it plays fine as it is. If you can give me some screenshots of the kind of thing you think would play well, then I'll give it a shot and let you know what I think.
On the other hand, if you're going to mostly mod blankets for my diff, I'll take it as a compliment!

No change.

No_Gu

2,954 posts

Joined January 2011

No_Gu 2014-06-15T01:53:27+00:00

M4M from my queue
sry for the delay
I prefer GUILTY CROWN as source as logo shows
no video?

[Easy]
00:27:383 (2) - add a whistle
fine

[Normal]
00:00:174 (1,3,1,3) - I don't think claps fit here
00:26:685 (3,4) - add whistle
00:54:592 (3,4,1) - why not symmetry them?
hmm...it's more like a harder easy than normal.

[Samah]
why big circles...
1 downbeat 1 NC maybe..
00:00:871 (4) - ctrl+g better flow
00:17:964 (5,6) - maybe sth like this.plays better imo http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1716116
01:04:011 (9) - 164，128 looks better
more like a harder normal than hard
hmm..big circles and no jumps make this look really in a mess

[Insane]
00:27:034 - no sound here
00:48:662 (2) - it should be a slider like 1
00:55:377 (3) - wired..aha
it will be better if you put some jumps since this is an insane diff..but aha,still ok

hmm...I think it will be better if you can make Normal a little harder like a normal diff

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-15T09:24:31+00:00

No_Gu wrote:
[Samah]
why big circles...
Because I think a map's difficulty should be based on its flow than on the size of its circles.
1 downbeat 1 NC maybe..
00:00:871 (4) - ctrl+g better flow
Ok, I like the loop idea.
00:17:964 (5,6) - maybe sth like this.plays better imo http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1716116
No.
01:04:011 (9) - 164，128 looks better
That's bad spacing.
more like a harder normal than hard
Not really.
hmm..big circles and no jumps make this look really in a mess
You're entitled to your opinion.

One small change.

http://puu.sh/9umra/a2e2c1ea7f.osu

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-15T11:43:52+00:00

No_Gu

No_Gu wrote:
M4M from my queue
sry for the delay
I prefer GUILTY CROWN as source as logo shows I kinda dislike the all-capsiness and google search also tells me that it has a normal capitalization, so I'll keep it that way
no video? IVe thought about it for a while and Iam still not sure. I might do it?

[Easy]
00:27:383 (2) - add a whistle changed
fine

[Normal]
00:00:174 (1,3,1,3) - I don't think claps fit here true. I tried to give them somewhat similar claps as in Insane, but that just wont work. removed
00:26:685 (3,4) - add whistle changed
00:54:592 (3,4,1) - why not symmetry them? I think they are? I assume you mean so that it's in the middle of the playfield - I dont think thats that important
hmm...it's more like a harder easy than normal. probably

[Insane]
00:27:034 - no sound here silenced it a little
00:48:662 (2) - it should be a slider like 1 I think its fine
00:55:377 (3) - wired..aha changed this one (finally)
it will be better if you put some jumps since this is an insane diff..but aha,still ok

hmm...I think it will be better if you can make Normal a little harder like a normal diff
The mapset itself is very easy, i know about that, but I just wanted to give this kind of map a try ,, so, yea. Easy mapset it is

Thanks :3

Haneure

47 posts

Joined November 2013

Haneure 2014-06-17T03:48:39+00:00

From my modding queue~

Everything I say are all suggestions, please keep that in mind!

Also the map was updated as I was modding q_q I'm sorry if anything overlaps/conflicts with the update...

Insane

00:07:848 (3) - I would suggest separating this slider into individual notes with a whistle on each of them; I believe that it'd put a nice touch on the map in the same sense that the piano does for the song here.

Suggestion for placement?

Maybe the jump is a little big to match the rest of the intro but... Again, just a suggestion like everything else~
00:10:813 (4) - Same idea as ^, I would separate this slider into two notes and give them both a whistle.

00:32:964 (4) - Add whistle :3

00:33:313 (5) - ^

00:36:365 - Add a note here as a triplet from 00:36:278 (6) leading into the slider to go with the violin? Or make it a stream starting from 00:36:104 (5) into the next slider?

00:49:011 (1) - Dampen the sound of the start of this slider and add a whistle

00:53:546 (2) - Consider moving this up slightly so that the slider tail doesn't overlap with the end of 00:53:197 (1)? I think it might look a bit cleaner...

Like so
...with the slider one nazi spot to the right.

Samah's Hard

00:09:767 (4) - Try removing this o:

00:09:941 (4) - Move this slider up to the same beat where 00:09:767 (4) was, to match the vocals more closely?

00:10:639 (6) - Then move this slider to 00:10:464

00:10:987 - After that, add a single note in this spot (This together with the other three suggestions^ are meant to help this particular phrase flow with the vocals slightly better. )

00:24:941 (10) - Add a whistle

00:29:127 (4) - Move this to the head of 00:29:301 (5) ?

00:47:615 (1,2,3) - Uhh... really loose suggestion but consider making this a back and forth slider instead of a triplet? It's just an different idea, I think it's okay as is tbh.

00:48:313 (1,2,3) - Same thing as ^

01:02:790 (5) - Move this to the head of 01:02:964 (6) ?

Normal

00:49:011 (1,2) - Lower the slider speed of these two? To give a little more buildup into the next phrasing

00:07:150 (3,4) - Consider breaking these up into separate notes and putting whistles on all four, same idea as with the Insane... Some more accent on the piano

00:26:685 (3) - Make this a repeat slider?

00:35:057 (3) - Move this slider like one tiny pixel down?

Holy crap, this song is absolutely beautiful ;__; EGOIST giving me goosebumps as usual. Good luck with this map, it's quite lovely!

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-17T08:08:39+00:00

Haneure wrote:
Samah's Hard

00:09:767 (4) - Try removing this o:
00:09:941 (4) - Move this slider up to the same beat where 00:09:767 (4) was, to match the vocals more closely?
00:10:639 (6) - Then move this slider to 00:10:464
00:10:987 - After that, add a single note in this spot (This together with the other three suggestions^ are meant to help this particular phrase flow with the vocals slightly better. )
Looks good.

00:24:941 (10) - Add a whistle
Don't really like that, sorry.

00:29:127 (4) - Move this to the head of 00:29:301 (5) ?
Ok.

00:47:615 (1,2,3) - Uhh... really loose suggestion but consider making this a back and forth slider instead of a triplet? It's just an different idea, I think it's okay as is tbh.
00:48:313 (1,2,3) - Same thing as ^
Nice idea, but I think I prefer it as it is.

01:02:790 (5) - Move this to the head of 01:02:964 (6) ?
Nah.

Thanks, a few changes made.

http://puu.sh/9xfFx/37ca41c875.osu

Yauxo

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Yauxo 2014-06-17T11:54:03+00:00

SPOILER

Haneure wrote:
From my modding queue~

Everything I say are all suggestions, please keep that in mind!

Also the map was updated as I was modding q_q I'm sorry if anything overlaps/conflicts with the update...

Insane

00:07:848 (3) - I would suggest separating this slider into individual notes with a whistle on each of them; I believe that it'd put a nice touch on the map in the same sense that the piano does for the song here.

Suggestion for placement?

Maybe the jump is a little big to match the rest of the intro but... Again, just a suggestion like everything else~
00:10:813 (4) - Same idea as ^, I would separate this slider into two notes and give them both a whistle. changed both, i like the idea

00:32:964 (4) - Add whistle :3

00:33:313 (5) - ^ added them, but also made them rather silent

00:36:365 - Add a note here as a triplet from 00:36:278 (6) leading into the slider to go with the violin? Or make it a stream starting from 00:36:104 (5) into the next slider? added a full stream

00:49:011 (1) - Dampen the sound of the start of this slider and add a whistle changed

00:53:546 (2) - Consider moving this up slightly so that the slider tail doesn't overlap with the end of 00:53:197 (1)? I think it might look a bit cleaner... I've had this alot, but this is intended

Like so
...with the slider one nazi spot to the right.

Normal

00:49:011 (1,2) - Lower the slider speed of these two? To give a little more buildup into the next phrasing The idea itself is nice, but I'd prefer not to use any SV change in normals

00:07:150 (3,4) - Consider breaking these up into separate notes and putting whistles on all four, same idea as with the Insane... Some more accent on the piano Changed the second slider into 2 circles, whistle'd

00:26:685 (3) - Make this a repeat slider? I like it this way more

00:35:057 (3) - Move this slider like one tiny pixel down? changed i guess
Holy crap, this song is absolutely beautiful ;__; EGOIST giving me goosebumps as usual. Good luck with this map, it's quite lovely!

Thanks :3

Don

218 posts

Joined December 2012

Don 2014-06-18T01:26:13+00:00

Beautiful hitsounding.

Easy
00:16:918 (1) - Move up a little
00:25:290 (1,2) - Flow is weird. Don't really have any suggestions, but for an easy, it just feels weird
00:30:871 (1) - Move down a little
00:54:592 (3,1) - Feels weird... same for 25s
01:07:150 (1,2,3,4,1) - http://puu.sh/9ym4Y/fa367461c1.jpg
01:12:732 (1,2) - Blanket
01:14:127 (2,1) - ^
01:23:894 (1) - Spinner doesn't fit... try either lowering the hitsounds every white/red tick or plainly removing the spinner

Normal
00:01:569 (3,1) - Nitpick this blanket
00:11:336 (1,3) - Reconsider this overlap, it looks weird on a low AR
00:14:127 (1,2) - Blanket
00:43:778 (2) - Avoid 2>3 or 4>1 sliders (same for red>white sliders, doesnt feel satisfying)
00:58:778 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/9ymxj/828cbc8bfc.jpg

Hard
Might want to reconsider your stack usage
00:10:987 (7,8) - Stack doesn't flow well, I feel
00:20:929 (4,1) - Feel like there's too much space time-wise to make this into a stack
00:25:290 (1,2) - This stack doesn't feel nice
00:25:987 (4) - Control G and snap to 1.2x
00:30:522 (8,9) - Not the fan of this stack either
00:38:894 (3,1) - Too much time stack thing
01:03:313 (7) - This note is in a weird position, it feels weird to play
01:06:104 (4,6) - Control g
01:07:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Consider redoing this part so it fits with the previous suggestion and give it more taste
01:21:104 (1) - Add sound to this spinner, and mute the end

Insane
00:09:767 (1,2,3) - Red>White sliders are very unsatisfying. Won't mention this again, but consider changing this. You can read more at http://osu.ppy.sh/u/Jenny
00:14:127 (1,3) - Making this go till the blue tick doesn't feel fitting with the music
00:22:848 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing changes here seem unnecessary
00:39:592 (2,3) - This stack breaks the flow

Yauxo

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Yauxo 2014-06-18T12:00:51+00:00

don

Don wrote:
Beautiful hitsounding.

Easy
00:16:918 (1) - Move up a little changed
00:25:290 (1,2) - Flow is weird. Don't really have any suggestions, but for an easy, it just feels weird
00:30:871 (1) - Move down a little i think this one's fine
00:54:592 (3,1) - Feels weird... same for 25s
01:07:150 (1,2,3,4,1) - http://puu.sh/9ym4Y/fa367461c1.jpg puush is broken right now, will see later
01:12:732 (1,2) - Blanket
01:14:127 (2,1) - ^ I prefer the non blanketed way
01:23:894 (1) - Spinner doesn't fit... try either lowering the hitsounds every white/red tick or plainly removing the spinner I think its fine, using the same spinner in every other diff as well

Normal
00:01:569 (3,1) - Nitpick this blanket
00:11:336 (1,3) - Reconsider this overlap, it looks weird on a low AR looks just fine on playtesting
00:14:127 (1,2) - Blanket modified slightly
00:43:778 (2) - Avoid 2>3 or 4>1 sliders (same for red>white sliders, doesnt feel satisfying) I see no problem with this one actually
00:58:778 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/9ymxj/828cbc8bfc.jpg changed

Insane
00:09:767 (1,2,3) - Red>White sliders are very unsatisfying. Won't mention this again, but consider changing this. You can read more at http://osu.ppy.sh/u/Jenny I dont mind using them if they match the music or vocals (here: ra/la and the vocal after it (a ri?)
00:14:127 (1,3) - Making this go till the blue tick doesn't feel fitting with the music first sliders end ends when the violin ends, second slider starts where the bass starts/violin changes its sound
00:22:848 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing changes here seem unnecessary
00:39:592 (2,3) - This stack breaks the flow both completely fine imo

Thanks :3

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2014-06-18T13:37:37+00:00

Sorry for late! Finally test is over!

[Easy]

00:22:499 (1) - whistle on arrow of slider

[Normal]

01:27:034 - remove this

[Samah's Hard]

00:23:894 (7) - NC

[list:1337]nothing to check overall! nice map!
Good luck!

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-18T14:41:34+00:00

tamul

TaMul wrote:
Sorry for late! Finally test is over!

[Easy]

00:22:499 (1) - whistle on arrow of slider changed
[Normal]

01:27:034 - remove this changed, didnt notice that leftover
nothing to check overall! nice map! Thanks :3
Good luck!

Thanks 4 dem stars and your mod :3

Okoayu

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Okoayu 2014-06-19T00:40:21+00:00

Yauxo wrote:
NM
Modder: Okonub :<

COULD YOU NOT..?!?!

Insane

Wie ich sehe hast du AR 9 immer abgelehnt, wie waers mit AR 8.5? ich finds super mit AR 8.5
00:08:371 (6) - wieso so laut, diese anderen circles sind auch 10% leiser: 00:10:813 (5,6) - (und 00:11:162 (7,8) - sind andere sounds imo) faellt nen bisschen stark auf wie laut der ist..?
00:20:232 (3) - keine ahnung das spielte sich komisch, vlt ist diese idee besser: CRTL+H => Um -11 Grad drehen und nach (32|176) verschieben, oder vielleicht auf eine aehnliche Art und weise reformen... vielleicht klappt das besser?
????
00:26:685 (1) - Whistle on head?
00:38:371 (2,3) - dass der etwas schief liegt faellt sogar ingame auf (1x, keine ahnung ob sich das fixen laesst x.x)
00:46:918 - wieso hoeren die claps auf diesem downbeat auf? (vlt den Stream dann etwas leiser machen und claps auf jeden downbeat placen?)

Samah's Hard

big circles are bit too big imo, i mean they're the same size than the circles in the normal, you could probably go with something like 3.5~3.7 to have something which is in the middle of the normal and the Insane's CS?
00:14:127 (1,2,3) - this sliderbow is being destroyed by the stack lenience of 00:14:650 (2,3) - , so you would probably want to go for a custom stack here to pull this off exactly how you want it to be
00:38:546 (1,2,3) - these are especially weird to play because 00:39:069 - is a strong vocal and your sliders mostly also align with some kind of vocal at least, so this way of placing objects may end up frustrating for the player
00:42:034 (1,2) - this sliderbow could be prettier imo
01:18:313 (1,2,3) - this sliderbow could be a bit prettier to look at ingame again, because the stack leniency makes the circle be unevenly near to this slider
That's how this pattern looks ingame atm
01:20:232 (6,7) - this is kinda similar to the case directly above
ingame example
same prolly applies in other cases aswell, i'd advise you to experiment with this a bit

Normal

how2 mod normals o-o
Ich nehme mal an die hitsounds sind am anfang absichtlich weggelassen oder lazy? (kannst ja immer noch sliderticks hitsounden, hehhehehehhe)
ich find die diff soweit eigentlich in ordnung, nur find ich's irgendwie seltsam dass 00:29:476 (3) - der einzige slider in der ganzen diff ist, der mehr als 3 anchors hat, koenntest nen bisschen mehr variieren, da man die wiederholungen auf einer Normal schon ziemlich stark sieht ?_? ausserdem versteh ich dein Slidertick gehitsounde nicht wirklich vor allem weils ab dem chorus aufhoert

Easy

diese diff ist jetzt die einzige die nicht in 00:00:174 - anfaengt... wieso nicht, das sind in ner easy like 5 objects max lol
lol selbst diese diff hat kreativere slider als die normal :'D

Keine ahnung, sag mir bitte was von den unteren diffs alles an schwachsinn dabei war, k

Samah

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Samah 2014-06-19T08:13:16+00:00

Don wrote:
Hard
Might want to reconsider your stack usage
00:10:987 (7,8) - Stack doesn't flow well, I feel
It's fine.
00:20:929 (4,1) - Feel like there's too much space time-wise to make this into a stack
Changed this a bit.
00:25:290 (1,2) - This stack doesn't feel nice
It's fine.
00:25:987 (4) - Control G and snap to 1.2x
No, I want all the sliders to have a downstroke.
00:30:522 (8,9) - Not the fan of this stack either
Unstacked.
00:38:894 (3,1) - Too much time stack thing
I agree. Didn't really know what to do here, so I just got rid of the jumps.
01:03:313 (7) - This note is in a weird position, it feels weird to play
I think it's ok.
01:06:104 (4,6) - Control g
See 00:25:987 (4).
01:07:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - Consider redoing this part so it fits with the previous suggestion and give it more taste
This part fits the music perfectly and gives the map plenty of taste.
01:21:104 (1) - Add sound to this spinner, and mute the end
Sure.

TaMul wrote:
[Samah's Hard]

00:23:894 (7) - NC
Nah.

Okoratu wrote:
Samah's Hard

big circles are bit too big imo, i mean they're the same size than the circles in the normal, you could probably go with something like 3.5~3.7 to have something which is in the middle of the normal and the Insane's CS?
Circle size is fine.
00:14:127 (1,2,3) - this sliderbow is being destroyed by the stack lenience of 00:14:650 (2,3) - , so you would probably want to go for a custom stack here to pull this off exactly how you want it to be
I see what you mean, but I'm really not sure what to do here. I tried offsetting circles but they looked ugly.
00:38:546 (1,2,3) - these are especially weird to play because 00:39:069 - is a strong vocal and your sliders mostly also align with some kind of vocal at least, so this way of placing objects may end up frustrating for the player
Fixed.
00:42:034 (1,2) - this sliderbow could be prettier imo
Fixed.
01:18:313 (1,2,3) - this sliderbow could be a bit prettier to look at ingame again, because the stack leniency makes the circle be unevenly near to this slider
That's how this pattern looks ingame atm
01:20:232 (6,7) - this is kinda similar to the case directly above
ingame example
same prolly applies in other cases aswell, i'd advise you to experiment with this a bit

A few changes.

http://puu.sh/9Aeqe/734169f1a3.osu

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-19T12:50:28+00:00

SPOILER

Okoratu wrote:
Yauxo wrote:
NM
Modder: Okonub :<
COULD YOU NOT..?!?!

Insane

Wie ich sehe hast du AR 9 immer abgelehnt, wie waers mit AR 8.5? ich finds super mit AR 8.5 [color=#0080FF]stimmt schon o:[/color]
00:08:371 (6) - wieso so laut, diese anderen circles sind auch 10% leiser: 00:10:813 (5,6) - (und 00:11:162 (7,8) - sind andere sounds imo) faellt nen bisschen stark auf wie laut der ist..? wurde durch ne mod geändert, hab vergessen den green point zu verschieben. fixed
00:20:232 (3) - keine ahnung das spielte sich komisch, vlt ist diese idee besser: CRTL+H => Um -11 Grad drehen und nach (32|176) verschieben, oder vielleicht auf eine aehnliche Art und weise reformen... vielleicht klappt das besser? der soll sich genau so spielen, map baut viel auf overlaps auf, dies ist einer davon o: Ich behalts jedoch im hinterkopf
????
00:26:685 (1) - Whistle on head? kann sein das ich das schonmal weggenommen habe, jedoch hat die normal diff da auch whistles, also fixed
00:38:371 (2,3) - dass der etwas schief liegt faellt sogar ingame auf (1x, keine ahnung ob sich das fixen laesst x.x)
00:46:918 - wieso hoeren die claps auf diesem downbeat auf? (vlt den Stream dann etwas leiser machen und claps auf jeden downbeat placen?) changed

Samah's Hard

big circles are bit too big imo, i mean they're the same size than the circles in the normal, you could probably go with something like 3.5~3.7 to have something which is in the middle of the normal and the Insane's CS?
00:14:127 (1,2,3) - this sliderbow is being destroyed by the stack lenience of 00:14:650 (2,3) - , so you would probably want to go for a custom stack here to pull this off exactly how you want it to be
00:38:546 (1,2,3) - these are especially weird to play because 00:39:069 - is a strong vocal and your sliders mostly also align with some kind of vocal at least, so this way of placing objects may end up frustrating for the player
00:42:034 (1,2) - this sliderbow could be prettier imo
01:18:313 (1,2,3) - this sliderbow could be a bit prettier to look at ingame again, because the stack leniency makes the circle be unevenly near to this slider
That's how this pattern looks ingame atm
01:20:232 (6,7) - this is kinda similar to the case directly above
ingame example
same prolly applies in other cases aswell, i'd advise you to experiment with this a bit

Normal

how2 mod normals o-o
Ich nehme mal an die hitsounds sind am anfang absichtlich weggelassen oder lazy? (kannst ja immer noch sliderticks hitsounden, hehhehehehhe)
ich find die diff soweit eigentlich in ordnung, nur find ich's irgendwie seltsam dass 00:29:476 (3) - der einzige slider in der ganzen diff ist, der mehr als 3 anchors hat, koenntest nen bisschen mehr variieren, da man die wiederholungen auf einer Normal schon ziemlich stark sieht ?_? ausserdem versteh ich dein Slidertick gehitsounde nicht wirklich vor allem weils ab dem chorus aufhoert Iam a retard. Fixed all the hitsounds

Easy

diese diff ist jetzt die einzige die nicht in 00:00:174 - anfaengt... wieso nicht, das sind in ner easy like 5 objects max lol
lol selbst diese diff hat kreativere slider als die normal :'D Teh strugglez of normal mapping

Keine ahnung, sag mir bitte was von den unteren diffs alles an schwachsinn dabei war, k

Ich versteh was du mit der Normal meinst, das allein kommt daher dass dies die erst diff war die ich in dem Mapset gemappt habe

Thanks :3

Indeed_old_1

114 posts

Joined September 2013

Indeed_old_1 2014-06-19T17:17:17+00:00

Hello, from my M4M Queue~ (don't worry, I understand you can't do the M4M right away, take your time!)

[General]

In Samah's Hard, their Kiai times are off by thiiiis much, make sure to tell them where your Kiai times are, as Kiai time should be consistent throughout all difficulties.

[Easy]

00:10:639 (3,1) - could blanket these
00:16:918 (1,2) - blanket
00:28:080 (1,2) - blanket
00:30:174 (3) - I suggest turning this slider around, the way you have it now sorta disrupts the flow of the map. Here's how I changed it. I also moved the following slider up for a nice blanket, by doing so the circle and sliders following it need to be readjusted, so I'm not sure you would like to implement this change.
00:46:220 (3) - move to x:48 y:116
00:47:267 (4) - x:256 y:212 for symmetry 8^) heck yeah symmetry
01:04:360 (1,2) - blanket
01:17:615 (3,1) - blanket
01:20:755 (3) - move to x:440 y:204 for better flow, your slider following it will only have to be adjusted a tiny bit

[Normal]

00:14:127 (1,2) - could blanket these better
00:18:313 (3) - I suggest turn this slider to go the other direction, the way it is now makes for bad flow. Here's what I did
00:19:011 (4) - I also moved this one, as you can see in the link above^ Just makes for better flow
00:33:662 (1,3) - could blanket these
00:37:848 (3,4) - blanket
00:46:918 (3) - the direction this slider in right now is a little awkward, maybe you could make it into a Z slider? or some other shape to fit in with the sliders around it
01:00:174 (3,4) - blanket these
01:21:801 (2) - I don't think this should be a reverse slider, it sounds better like this for me.

[Samah's Hard]

Your CS is a little iffy, I would say change it but you have previously posted you're quite adamant about keeping it that way.
Nice Hitsounds though, I like it
All of your hitsounds audio is in 40% though? why not make it louder during the Kiai time, say to 60%?
00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5) - I would move all of this to the left a little so your 5 and 6 sliders don't overlap, overlapping is a little ugly for me in higher difficulties if it can be avoided
00:24:941 (10) - new combo, for a nice effect with the singing? I dunno, having a 10 there just feels awkward to me
00:54:592 (6) - new combo
01:02:964 (6) - ^
01:07:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this pattern feels a little boring after you've done it for the second time, maybe you could space out the last 1,2?

[Insane]

This difficulty feels a little too easy to fc for me, I suggest spacing out some of you sliders and circles more during Kiai time, and maybe you could also increase sv during Kiai as well. Not a major change, but maybe to something like 1.2?
00:23:197 (3,4) - I would make these a 1,2 and space them farther away, maybe like this?
00:26:336 (4) - move to x:264 y:40
00:38:371 (2) - move to x:268 y:228 for a nice little jump!
00:39:592 (2,3) - move these up and to the left a bit
00:53:546 (2) - move up, space it out more!
01:01:569 (1) - move this down just a little bit for even spacing with the stream
01:02:964 (1,2,3,4) - I moved these around a bit, 1,2
01:17:790 - a triple would fit here
01:22:848 (2) - move this to the right a bit to space it out

Nice mapset! Good luck on ranking!

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-19T19:43:33+00:00

indeed

Indeed wrote:
Hello, from my M4M Queue~ (don't worry, I understand you can't do the M4M right away, take your time!) I will probably do it tomorrow or the day after. Feel free to remind me ingame!

[General]

In Samah's Hard, their Kiai times are off by thiiiis much, make sure to tell them where your Kiai times are, as Kiai time should be consistent throughout all difficulties. I dont think its thaaaat much of a problem right now, but .. meh :/

[Easy]

00:10:639 (3,1) - could blanket these
00:16:918 (1,2) - blanket
00:28:080 (1,2) - blanket all of them seems fine for me, blankets a nice thing, I agree, but I didnt want to make a pure blanket diff
00:30:174 (3) - I suggest turning this slider around, the way you have it now sorta disrupts the flow of the map. Here's how I changed it. I also moved the following slider up for a nice blanket, by doing so the circle and sliders following it need to be readjusted, so I'm not sure you would like to implement this change. My thought behind this is more that I really like these turning-away-from-each-other sliders. They add something to a combo imo, the thing is that not everyone likes them (similar to the overlaps I have on insane)
00:46:220 (3) - move to x:48 y:116 changed
00:47:267 (4) - x:256 y:212 for symmetry 8^) heck yeah symmetry changed
01:04:360 (1,2) - blanket
01:17:615 (3,1) - blanket
01:20:755 (3) - move to x:440 y:204 for better flow, your slider following it will only have to be adjusted a tiny bit okay, changed
[Normal]

00:14:127 (1,2) - could blanket these better changed
00:18:313 (3) - I suggest turn this slider to go the other direction, the way it is now makes for bad flow. Here's what I did changed
00:19:011 (4) - I also moved this one, as you can see in the link above^ Just makes for better flow
00:33:662 (1,3) - could blanket thesechanged to something different actually
00:37:848 (3,4) - blanket sounds like a plan
00:46:918 (3) - the direction this slider in right now is a little awkward, maybe you could make it into a Z slider? or some other shape to fit in with the sliders around it Its fine imo
01:00:174 (3,4) - blanket these I feel like keeping these
01:21:801 (2) - I don't think this should be a reverse slider, it sounds better like this for me. changed

[Insane]

This difficulty feels a little too easy to fc for me, I suggest spacing out some of you sliders and circles more during Kiai time, and maybe you could also increase sv during Kiai as well. Not a major change, but maybe to something like 1.2? Ive had this alot here, but I dont think that every Insane has to be jumpy or whatnot. Ive mapped this as a lighter Insane and that's how it'll stay :3
00:23:197 (3,4) - I would make these a 1,2 and space them farther away, maybe like this? thinking about it
00:26:336 (4) - move to x:264 y:40 I like to have these overlaps, so no change here
00:38:371 (2) - move to x:268 y:228 for a nice little jump! changed and also adjusted 3 to fit in with it
00:39:592 (2,3) - move these up and to the left a bit same overlap thing
00:53:546 (2) - move up, space it out more!
01:01:569 (1) - move this down just a little bit for even spacing with the stream +1y would make it go from .72 to .69. I'd say I'll keep it
01:02:964 (1,2,3,4) - I moved these around a bit, 1,2 changed, also changed 4 for more flow into 1
01:17:790 - a triple would fit here keeping it simple here
01:22:848 (2) - move this to the right a bit to space it out well, okay I guess
Nice mapset! Good luck on ranking!

Thanks :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-20T08:10:38+00:00

Indeed wrote:
[General]
In Samah's Hard, their Kiai times are off by thiiiis much, make sure to tell them where your Kiai times are, as Kiai time should be consistent throughout all difficulties.
Tweaked them a bit to make as much sense as the other diffs, not necessarily identical times.

[Samah's Hard]
Your CS is a little iffy, I would say change it but you have previously posted you're quite adamant about keeping it that way.
Nice Hitsounds though, I like it
All of your hitsounds audio is in 40% though? why not make it louder during the Kiai time, say to 60%?
Changed Kiai to 60 and other sections to 50.
00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5) - I would move all of this to the left a little so your 5 and 6 sliders don't overlap, overlapping is a little ugly for me in higher difficulties if it can be avoided
Moved and blanketed some stuff.
00:24:941 (10) - new combo, for a nice effect with the singing? I dunno, having a 10 there just feels awkward to me
Sure.
00:54:592 (6) - new combo
^
01:02:964 (6) - ^
^
01:07:150 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this pattern feels a little boring after you've done it for the second time, maybe you could space out the last 1,2?
Did something different.

Thanks.

http://puu.sh/9BPQN/26826ab2fe.osu

RandF

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Joined March 2013

RandF 2014-06-20T12:56:29+00:00

thanks for M4M!

[Easy]

01:19:360- add a note
01:21:104 (1,2,3,4) - hmm... a little boring, imo. avoid making parallel all sliders?

[Normal]

00:15:522 (3,4) - not good flow
00:16:918 (1,2) - ^

[Insane]

Good!

[Samah's Hard]

CS +1
00:29:999 (7,8) - not good flow. I recommend not to blanket
00:38:546 (4) - curve more!

almost good!
fine mapset~☆
~Good Luck~

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-20T19:01:49+00:00

random

RandomEffect wrote:
thanks for M4M!

[Easy]
01:19:360- add a note probably a good idea
01:21:104 (1,2,3,4) - hmm... a little boring, imo. avoid making parallel all sliders? I think they are fine as they fit to the music
[Normal]
00:15:522 (3,4) - not good flow
00:16:918 (1,2) - ^ I think they are just fine, but lets see, I'll probably move them a little bit
almost good!
fine mapset~☆
~Good Luck~

Thanks :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-21T04:26:01+00:00

Yauxo: Please add CS +1 for me.
It looks bloody awful but I'm sick of getting it modded.

No other change.

Edit: On the other hand, it does fix the overlapping from Okoratu's mod.

Edit 2: After discussion with Yauxo, I'm going with a CS of 3.5. It's good enough, plus it fixes the overlaps.

Sir Wali

111 posts

Joined March 2013

Sir Wali 2014-06-23T16:09:21+00:00

Insae
00:26:336 (4) - vieleicht weiter nach rechts verschieben und alles mit einem abstand anpassen

so vielleicht

00:39:767 (3) - ^ (etwas weiter zurück und wieder auf den abstand achten)
00:53:546 (2) - ^

ansonsten sehr schön gemappt
~GOOD LUCK~

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-23T17:38:46+00:00

Sir Wali wrote:
Insae
00:26:336 (4) - vieleicht weiter nach rechts verschieben und alles mit einem abstand anpassen
so vielleicht
00:39:767 (3) - ^ (etwas weiter zurück und wieder auf den abstand achten)
00:53:546 (2) - ^

ansonsten sehr schön gemappt
~GOOD LUCK~

Ich bau die Slider u.U/wahrscheinlich nur leicht um, damit die Overlaps wenigstens gleichbleibend sind.

emilia

893 posts

Joined October 2012

emilia 2014-06-26T17:47:42+00:00

Ok GO!

Easy

00:14:127 (1,3) - Make them the same?
00:16:918 (1) - Blanket?
00:42:034 (1) - Don't find a need for weird slider
01:04:360 (1) - Curve more?

Rather weird flow, and if you can, cut down on long sliders

Normal

00:19:708 (1) - Curve this more
00:22:499 (1) - Same^
00:46:918 (3) - Blanket the note before instead
01:20:406 (3) - Consider making this note the same as note 1, but smaller

Simplistic Normal, much better than Easy diff. I like~

Samah

00:28:080 (2,3) - Consider making them the same
00:35:580 (6) - Make this blanket the slider before better?
00:36:278 (8) - Bring this note above the previous note instead
01:07:150 (1,2,1,2) - Flow feels awkward

Nice mapping style, lovely beat placement and blanketting techniques. Great job on this~

Insane

00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Flow is very counter-intuitive
00:36:104 (5,6,7,8,1) - Consider making this stream a straight one, to lead into the next slider
00:43:080 (4) - You should straighten this slider more

Nice slider art there. I see an improvement of style, nice patterns as well. Not many issues other than prolly flow problems?

Not bad mapset overall. Was an ease modding.

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-26T19:34:04+00:00

SPOILER

Estellia- wrote:
Ok GO!

Easy
00:14:127 (1,3) - Make them the same? changed
00:16:918 (1) - Blanket? ah well, okay
00:42:034 (1) - Don't find a need for weird slider I tried and I think its fine
01:04:360 (1) - Curve more? made a blanket

Rather weird flow, and if you can, cut down on long sliders

Normal
00:19:708 (1) - Curve this more This one's fine imo
00:22:499 (1) - Same^ ^
00:46:918 (3) - Blanket the note before instead okay
01:20:406 (3) - Consider making this note the same as note 1, but smaller I like it this way more (kinda moving away from the mirrored stuff) as it flows into 1 nicely

Simplistic Normal, much better than Easy diff. I like~

Insane
00:00:174 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Flow is very counter-intuitive True, but thats how it's supposed to be
00:36:104 (5,6,7,8,1) - Consider making this stream a straight one, to lead into the next slider Map's curvy, stream's curvy :3
00:43:080 (4) - You should straighten this slider more nope, flowreasons

Nice slider art there. I see an improvement of style, nice patterns as well. Not many issues other than prolly flow problems?

Not bad mapset overall. Was an ease modding.

Thanks :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-27T08:01:25+00:00

Estellia- wrote:
00:28:080 (2,3) - Consider making them the same
I'm not sure what you mean... screenshot of your suggestion?
00:35:580 (6) - Make this blanket the slider before better?
I tried something.
00:36:278 (8) - Bring this note above the previous note instead
Moved.
01:07:150 (1,2,1,2) - Flow feels awkward
It's a feature of the map that I'm not changing, sorry. It fits nicely with the high melody in the background, and I've already shortened it in a previous mod.

Nice mapping style, lovely beat placement and blanketting techniques. Great job on this~
Thanks! <3

http://puu.sh/9M7vd/42fb208507.osu

Ujimatsu Chiya

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Ujimatsu Chiya 2014-06-27T09:47:43+00:00

From My Queues.

Sorry for late

Red : Must Fix. ( Unranked )
Blue : Recommendation.
Black : My personal opinion.

[General]

OK.

[Easy]

00:54:592 (3) - Follow a little easier to look after us while ctrl + G had to hold back Would not it be nice if you could?
01:04:360 (1) - Looks more like a blanket. http://puu.sh/9MazB/6db9ad4dee.jpg
01:04:360 (1) - To put it in reverse clap sound is richer, do not you think? like all of 00:54:592 (3) - , But just my opinion.
01:09:243 (3,4) - change slider like this parttern. 00:18:662 (2,3) -
01:23:894 (1) - remove hitsound?

[Normal]

change OD >> 3 // Under the normal difficulty setting, the decimal point is to add a degree of difficulty do not think it is good.
00:26:511 - The different patterns of vocal sounds sound at all?
00:47:615 (1) - add clap / slider tail
00:36:453 (1,2,3) - How about seeing a little change following the directions? http://puu.sh/9MbdI/1b68cb2482.jpg
01:09:941 (1,2,3,4) - Do not take a straight line, it is a little more warped shape looks good.

[Samah's Hard]

OD6? I think that may be enough 6.
00:53:720 (3) - overlap with (4)slider's head?

[Insane]

AR9 / 8.5 is ambiguous.
00:05:929 (2) - remove.
00:36:191 (6) - Just remove the batter to put it, but it is also a good look.
00:36:453 (1) - 2 is a slider with a blanket, how?

Once again I'm really sorry for late. I hope to ranked~

GL

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-06-27T11:36:33+00:00

eINess wrote:
[Samah's Hard]
OD6? I think that may be enough 6.
OD7 is fine.
00:53:720 (3) - overlap with (4)slider's head?
I want (2,3) to match (4,5), so no.

No change.

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-06-27T12:29:28+00:00

SPOILER

eINess wrote:
From My Queues.

Sorry for late

Red : Must Fix. ( Unranked )
Blue : Recommendation.
Black : My personal opinion.
[General]
OK.
[Easy]
00:54:592 (3) - Follow a little easier to look after us while ctrl + G had to hold back Would not it be nice if you could? I think (I hope) I know what you mean, fixed it
01:04:360 (1) - Looks more like a blanket. http://puu.sh/9MazB/6db9ad4dee.jpg That'd destroy the spacing related to it
01:04:360 (1) - To put it in reverse clap sound is richer, do not you think? like all of 00:54:592 (3) - , But just my opinion. A whislte is just enough there
01:09:243 (3,4) - change slider like this parttern. 00:18:662 (2,3) - I made this for the sake of variation
01:23:894 (1) - remove hitsound? I think a whistle compliments the small sound at the end
[Normal]
change OD >> 3 // Under the normal difficulty setting, the decimal point is to add a degree of difficulty do not think it is good. I wanted to have something between 3 and 4 as 3 is .. well, not really any challenge compared to Easy (OD2) and 4 feels kinda hard for this map. 3.5 is perfect imo
00:26:511 - The different patterns of vocal sounds sound at all? Didnt map the vocals. These sliders follow the "build up" sound
00:47:615 (1) - add clap / slider tail There is no clap to be heard in the song (I'll probably remove these from Insane as well
00:36:453 (1,2,3) - How about seeing a little change following the directions? http://puu.sh/9MbdI/1b68cb2482.jpg changed
01:09:941 (1,2,3,4) - Do not take a straight line, it is a little more warped shape looks good. straight is just fine ime
[Insane]
AR9 / 8.5 is ambiguous. AR8 feels too slow, AR9 is too fast, AR8.5 fits imo
00:05:929 (2) - remove. nope
00:36:191 (6) - Just remove the batter to put it, but it is also a good look. The stream adds a nice build up
00:36:453 (1) - 2 is a slider with a blanket, how? Not supposed to be a blanket
Once again I'm really sorry for late. I hope to ranked~

GL

Thanks :3

Yauxo

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Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-07-06T23:53:55+00:00

Bats are asleep, post bread

Might as well get another Insane going

Hemmi

98 posts

Joined May 2013

Hemmi 2014-07-09T20:47:38+00:00

General
There is no custom sample 4 but there is a custom sample 5.

I told Yauxo quickly about the diff spread issue with Normal, hopefully it will be fixed.

Easy, Normal, Samah's Hard

I don't even want to talk about what happened to my mod. Take 5 stars as my apologies.

SPOILER

My computer crashed and Chrome didn't restore my data. I lost 3 hours of modding.

Insane

4AM IRC mod OP

2014-07-09 01:47 Gunsillie: Okay, so first thing, what do you have special in your custom hitsounds ?
2014-07-09 01:47 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/a2SqZ/8e4c1f6ab8.png
2014-07-09 01:48 Gunsillie: Do you use the normal hitsounds in the other diffs ?
2014-07-09 01:49 Yauxo: nope, all custom
2014-07-09 01:49 Gunsillie: I mean the custom "Normal" hitsounds
2014-07-09 01:49 Yauxo: ah, no i think theyre samah only
2014-07-09 01:50 Yauxo: actually
2014-07-09 01:51 Yauxo: looks like he doesnt use them anymore
2014-07-09 01:51 Yauxo: so i guess they can be deleted
2014-07-09 01:52 Gunsillie: okay, so about timing sections on insane
2014-07-09 01:52 Gunsillie: Why do they always begin 1/8 before the note ?
2014-07-09 01:52 Gunsillie: 1/16*
2014-07-09 01:53 Yauxo: not exactly sure why i did this, but its not like its a big thing
2014-07-09 01:53 Gunsillie: Actually, some are strangely placed
2014-07-09 01:54 Gunsillie: Because for instance at 0:17:208
2014-07-09 01:54 Yauxo: hitsound volume
2014-07-09 01:55 Gunsillie: A same slider will have two different volumes and hitsounds for Sliderslide
2014-07-09 01:55 Yauxo: most of the timing points are for volume purpose
2014-07-09 01:55 Yauxo: thats intentional as the music also features 2 different pitches/volumes
2014-07-09 01:55 Gunsillie: Yes, but I am talking about the SliderSlide
2014-07-09 01:56 Yauxo: well, its not like someone would notice a 1/16 sliderslide change, but i guess i can move them
2014-07-09 01:56 Gunsillie: Sorry for being nazi, let's continue^^
2014-07-09 01:57 Gunsillie: Talking about volumes, at 00:07:848 (3)
2014-07-09 01:58 Gunsillie: You have a high volume for 3,4,5 and 6 but only 3 is played forte by the piano
2014-07-09 01:58 Yauxo: will adjust that
2014-07-09 01:59 Gunsillie: 00:10:464 (3) - Here, 3 and 4 are loud in the map but not in the music
2014-07-09 01:59 Gunsillie: woops, 4 is actually
2014-07-09 02:00 Yauxo: yup
2014-07-09 02:00 Yauxo: 4 is supported with a whistle which appears to be louder anyways
2014-07-09 02:00 Yauxo: while 3 isnt
2014-07-09 02:01 Gunsillie: So move the timing section from 10:769 to 00:10:639 I guess ?
2014-07-09 02:02 Yauxo: naw. 4 is loud, following circles are more quiet
2014-07-09 02:02 Yauxo: iam adjusting most of the volume atm anyways
2014-07-09 02:03 Gunsillie: So do you want me to skip the volumes then ?
2014-07-09 02:04 Yauxo: you can point out stuff that really catches your eye, but skipping most of it would be good i think
2014-07-09 02:07 Gunsillie: So you place the whistle for the piano notes, is that it ?
2014-07-09 02:08 Yauxo: pretty much whereever it fits, high pitched voice, piano, high violin
2014-07-09 02:08 Gunsillie: So here, you want to follow the violin with the whistles, right ? 00:14:127
2014-07-09 02:09 Yauxo: true, ill add some there
2014-07-09 02:10 Gunsillie: what I wanted to get at is : remove whistle on 00:14:476 (2) - Add on 00:14:127 (1)
2014-07-09 02:10 Yauxo: ill lower their volume
2014-07-09 02:11 Yauxo: i think whistles on these heads are fine as well
2014-07-09 02:11 Gunsillie: Because It would be the logic you followed from 00:12:557 to 00:13:953
2014-07-09 02:11 Yauxo: yea
2014-07-09 02:12 Gunsillie: Because the places you put the whistles don't follow the marcatos of the violins
2014-07-09 02:12 Gunsillie: Maybe it's fine as is, I don't know
2014-07-09 02:13 Yauxo: i see your point in it and i assume volume does the job there
2014-07-09 02:13 Gunsillie: 00:18:139 (4) - I am trying to understand this slider
2014-07-09 02:14 Yauxo: vocal
2014-07-09 02:15 Yauxo: hum
2014-07-09 02:15 Yauxo: kinda similar to these 00:30:871 (1) - 00:34:883 (1) -
2014-07-09 02:15 Yauxo: 00:36:453 (1) -
2014-07-09 02:15 Gunsillie: But here it's different
2014-07-09 02:16 Yauxo: imo the ne vocal is pretty strong here
2014-07-09 02:16 Yauxo: which is why i mapped it
2014-07-09 02:17 Gunsillie: The combo follows the vocal but the piano domines clearly starting at 00:17:964 imo
2014-07-09 02:17 Gunsillie: 00:17:964 - imo
2014-07-09 02:18 Yauxo: let me see if i can map a different, piano orientated combo there
2014-07-09 02:20 Yauxo: works just fine
2014-07-09 02:20 Yauxo: changed
2014-07-09 02:21 Gunsillie: 00:21:278 (5) - I suggest whistle on head
2014-07-09 02:21 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/a2UYn/efbf9e54a5.jpg
2014-07-09 02:21 Yauxo: a very silent one it is
2014-07-09 02:22 Yauxo: added
2014-07-09 02:23 Gunsillie: So here : 00:22:848
2014-07-09 02:24 Yauxo: added
2014-07-09 02:24 Gunsillie: That is not what I meant ><
2014-07-09 02:24 Gunsillie: But still,why not ?^^
2014-07-09 02:24 Yauxo: oh
2014-07-09 02:24 Yauxo:

2014-07-09 02:25 Yauxo: yea, ill add one anways
2014-07-09 02:25 Gunsillie: What I wanted to say was :
2014-07-09 02:25 Gunsillie: 1,2,5&6 map the piano, but 3&4 are additions
2014-07-09 02:25 Gunsillie: That's fine, but you could add W on 5&6 so we will feel they are the piano
2014-07-09 02:26 Gunsillie: And then remove W on the Head of 1 ? Let me see
2014-07-09 02:26 Yauxo: i dont really hear one one 6 though
2014-07-09 02:27 Yauxo: added 5
2014-07-09 02:27 Yauxo: and i think 1 is fine as it has a loud/high pitched whateveritis ._.
2014-07-09 02:28 Gunsillie: But to me it just sounds better with no W on head :/
2014-07-09 02:28 Gunsillie: And the tail is more emphasized than the head
2014-07-09 02:28 Yauxo: naw, i think its just fine

2014-07-09 02:29 Gunsillie: You break my heart, but it's your map after all^^
2014-07-09 02:29 Yauxo:

2014-07-09 02:30 Gunsillie: 00:24:767 (4) - Because it is a decrescendo, are you sure about the W ?
2014-07-09 02:31 Yauxo: yup. high sound should be W'd
2014-07-09 02:31 Yauxo: idk if i did this just now, but i also modified the slider a bit after that
2014-07-09 02:31 Yauxo: so that it fits to the decreasing volume
2014-07-09 02:33 Gunsillie: 00:26:685 (1) - It sounds cool with no W imo
2014-07-09 02:33 Gunsillie: Because there is no piano there
2014-07-09 02:33 Gunsillie: And there is kind of a silence
2014-07-09 02:34 Yauxo: true
2014-07-09 02:34 Gunsillie: But don't you think we should add a W on a previous note then ?
2014-07-09 02:35 Gunsillie: Like the Head of 4 because the piano plays forte, alhough it is a very low note
2014-07-09 02:36 Yauxo: i dont actually think so
2014-07-09 02:37 Gunsillie: Can you explain why ?
2014-07-09 02:38 Yauxo: iam trying to whislte the sounds that are obviously louder/higherpitched than others, so that it supports the song for the player
2014-07-09 02:39 Gunsillie: But 4 is really loud even if it is low
2014-07-09 02:39 Yauxo: i dont have any real insight when it comes to piano stuff, may it be a high sound or not, just very quiet, but i dont think that these are necessary there
2014-07-09 02:39 Gunsillie: Ok fine
2014-07-09 02:39 Yauxo: its not really audibe for a normal player like me though

2014-07-09 02:39 Yauxo: it sounds like a normal beat to me
2014-07-09 02:41 Gunsillie: 00:28:429 (2,3) - Remove W on 2 or on both ?
2014-07-09 02:42 Gunsillie: Because you follow the vocal now, so we can forget our pattern for W
2014-07-09 02:43 Yauxo: there is a pattern and I dont know how its called, but i hear a loud sound there, similar to 00:32:615 (2,3) - 00:34:011 (2,3) -
2014-07-09 02:43 Yauxo: which is what iam supporting
2014-07-09 02:43 Yauxo: i mean, the whisltes are there so that they support the higher pitches, not only for the piano parts

2014-07-09 02:43 Yauxo: so I dont intend any change on these
2014-07-09 02:45 Gunsillie: okay, I understand your pattern now
2014-07-09 02:46 Yauxo: that got me kinda curious though, you do something with the piano in your freetime, dont you?
2014-07-09 02:46 Gunsillie: Yes I do^^
2014-07-09 02:47 Gunsillie: Not that it really makes me more relevant for modding piano parts
2014-07-09 02:48 Yauxo:

2014-07-09 02:48 Yauxo: it sure comes in handy though
2014-07-09 02:48 Gunsillie: 00:32:964 (4,5) - Because of the "Aaah", why not try a curve with 2 points ?
2014-07-09 02:49 Gunsillie: I guess I pay more attention to the piano when I hear one ~~
2014-07-09 02:49 Yauxo: i guess thats just a stylething
2014-07-09 02:50 Gunsillie: That was random because I thought it was fun^^
2014-07-09 02:51 Gunsillie: Anyway, because of the "Aaaah", no W on 4 ? Not sure
2014-07-09 02:52 Yauxo: id prefer it being there
2014-07-09 02:54 Gunsillie: But again, with no W on 4 and 5 (and there was already none on 00:33:662 (1) ), it renders the piano silence better
2014-07-09 02:55 Gunsillie: Because else, you also have 4 W almost in a row, you lose a bit of impact
2014-07-09 02:56 Yauxo: it might support the piano silence, but iam not only supporting the piano here >< the aah is compared to other vocals high pitched
2014-07-09 02:56 Yauxo: which is why i w'd it
2014-07-09 02:57 Gunsillie: But the "aaah" are the support, we don't want to support the support !
2014-07-09 02:57 Yauxo:

2014-07-09 02:57 Gunsillie: But if you are sure
2014-07-09 02:57 Yauxo: my mapping section in my brain tells me that it should be supported
2014-07-09 02:58 Yauxo: without it feels rather werid imo
2014-07-09 02:58 Gunsillie: It's because you know your own map by heart !
2014-07-09 02:59 Gunsillie: What would you think if a room suddenly disappeared in your house ?
2014-07-09 02:59 Yauxo: id probably start to believe in the supernatural
2014-07-09 02:59 Gunsillie: 1) "WTF?!" probably, but 2) it would feel empty, even if the room was useless
2014-07-09 03:00 Yauxo: or bulldozers
2014-07-09 03:00 Gunsillie: That was the 3AM philosphical thought by Gunsillie
2014-07-09 03:00 Gunsillie: More immportantly, 00:36:017 - missing circle
2014-07-09 03:01 Yauxo: true actually
2014-07-09 03:01 Yauxo: added
2014-07-09 03:02 Gunsillie: So, here : 00:36:453 (1) - At first, I thought "nice, he didn't put a W here !"
2014-07-09 03:03 Gunsillie: But actually, wouldn't it be nice if (insert Beach Boys lyrics here) there was a W ? :>
2014-07-09 03:04 Gunsillie: Because the violin melody does : \-
2014-07-09 03:05 Yauxo: well, sorry for interrupting all of that, but mind skipping further hitsounds? >< iam rather tired and I think the hitsounds are in generally mapped how they should be mapped
2014-07-09 03:05 Yauxo: 3am here as well
2014-07-09 03:05 Yauxo: :s
2014-07-09 03:05 Gunsillie: Sure
2014-07-09 03:05 Yauxo: ill apply the changed hitsounds to the other diffs as well though
2014-07-09 03:05 Yauxo: so that its consistent
2014-07-09 03:06 Gunsillie: 00:46:569 (2) - random overlap fixing
2014-07-09 03:07 Yauxo: that one will be difficult as the head overlaps with 00:45:871 (4) -
2014-07-09 03:11 Gunsillie: it seems like imgur doesn't want to upload my picture
2014-07-09 03:11 Yauxo: why dont you use puush?
2014-07-09 03:12 Gunsillie: Because if someone looks at the mod 6 months later it won't work. just kidding idk
2014-07-09 03:15 Gunsillie: And something like this http://i.imgur.com/jw8HEq8.jpg
2014-07-09 03:15 Gunsillie: With some reworking
2014-07-09 03:16 Yauxo: looks pretty good
2014-07-09 03:17 Yauxo: changed
2014-07-09 03:18 Gunsillie: The next mod will say "Blanket !" and you will be screwed but that's the next mod...
2014-07-09 03:18 Yauxo: i dont think blankets are too important there
2014-07-09 03:19 Gunsillie: 00:47:615 (1) - More to the left because the wrist movement is open
2014-07-09 03:19 Gunsillie: Well, after 1 as well if you want your stream to look good
2014-07-09 03:20 Yauxo: i actually think that it has to be slightly rotated
2014-07-09 03:21 Gunsillie: A + or - rotation ?
2014-07-09 03:21 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/a2ZmM/b5c124aced.jpg
2014-07-09 03:23 Gunsillie: OK I agree
2014-07-09 03:26 Gunsillie: 00:55:987 (5) - You can make a jump because you did it in similar situations
2014-07-09 03:26 Gunsillie: 00:50:755 (2) - 00:53:546 (2) -
2014-07-09 03:27 Gunsillie: Wait it is not similar at all _-_
2014-07-09 03:29 Gunsillie: 00:56:685 (1) - However it is possible here
2014-07-09 03:30 Yauxo: i dont think this part needs a jump
2014-07-09 03:32 Gunsillie: 00:58:778 (1) - Why did you chose this shape ?
2014-07-09 03:33 Yauxo: its a copy of 00:58:080 (5) - flipped 180°
2014-07-09 03:33 Yauxo: and because i like these moving-away-from-each-other type of combos
2014-07-09 03:34 Yauxo: 00:29:825 (1,2) -
2014-07-09 03:34 Yauxo: for example
2014-07-09 03:34 Gunsillie: Alright I get it, so then you should curve 00:58:080 (5) - more
2014-07-09 03:34 Yauxo: whys that
2014-07-09 03:35 Gunsillie: Wait, I think I don't have the same one as you
2014-07-09 03:36 Yauxo: http://puu.sh/a30lZ/56afc7494b.jpg
2014-07-09 03:36 Gunsillie: okay, I updated
2014-07-09 03:36 Gunsillie: You can curve it more, without breaking the curve with 3&4, to have a better flow with 6
2014-07-09 03:37 Gunsillie: Oh, wait, 6 is the copy of 5
2014-07-09 03:37 Yauxo: ye
2014-07-09 03:37 Gunsillie: Can't be helped then
2014-07-09 03:39 Gunsillie: Maybe it's because it's late, but isn't 01:01:569 (1) - not aligned with the stream ?
2014-07-09 03:40 Yauxo: thats ,01, its not really important
2014-07-09 03:44 Gunsillie: 01:02:267 (4,5,6,1) -
2014-07-09 03:45 Gunsillie: I tried something, tell me what you think
2014-07-09 03:47 Gunsillie: http://i.imgur.com/YVquwHP.jpg
2014-07-09 03:47 Yauxo: thatd force me to move 01:02:964 (1,2,3,4) - and i think it feels pretty well
2014-07-09 03:48 Gunsillie: There is a stange flow on 01:03:313 (2,3) - but we will say it maps the violin
2014-07-09 03:52 Gunsillie: 01:14:127 (1) - "Odd shape"
2014-07-09 03:53 Yauxo: i dont mind odd shapes
2014-07-09 03:53 Yauxo: i tend to use them more often lately
2014-07-09 03:53 Yauxo: isit too odd though=?
2014-07-09 03:54 Gunsillie: It is the choice of rhythm that disturbed me, and then the shape
2014-07-09 03:54 Gunsillie: Because you follow the violin during this one slider
2014-07-09 03:55 Yauxo: well, thats just how I map i guess
2014-07-09 03:55 Yauxo: i guess i can rethink the shape
2014-07-09 03:55 Gunsillie: Maybe have a movement which would begin by going down instead of right like it is the case currently
2014-07-09 03:56 Gunsillie: A bit like 01:12:732 (1) - +40°
2014-07-09 03:56 Gunsillie: i meant left ofc -.-
2014-07-09 03:58 Yauxo: i guess i kinda like it this way more as 2 3 and 4 make a nice straight movement
2014-07-09 03:59 Gunsillie: So make it go diagonaly then \o/
2014-07-09 04:00 Gunsillie: So that there is also a good flow with 01:14:999 (2,3) -
2014-07-09 04:01 Gunsillie: And for the shape, as long as it remains on the grid, it will be fine because 2014 mapping OP
2014-07-09 04:02 Gunsillie: In fact, your original slider+ Ctrl+J + some small changes will probably do
2014-07-09 04:02 Yauxo: uf, i kinda cant get into it diagonal stuff
2014-07-09 04:02 Yauxo: straight just feels better to me
2014-07-09 04:03 Gunsillie: Alright, no big deal
2014-07-09 04:06 Gunsillie: 00:18:139 (4) - I find this shape nicer
2014-07-09 04:07 Yauxo: naw
2014-07-09 04:07 Yauxo: btw, i guess ill go to sleep then >< its so late
2014-07-09 04:08 Gunsillie: Okay, do we continue tomorrow ?
2014-07-09 04:08 Yauxo: right now id prefer if you could put it in a normal mod, as simple shapes and stuff can be posted there as well. we went over the hitsounds so that should be just fine
2014-07-09 04:09 Yauxo: so i can apply mods whenever i feel like it tomorrow
2014-07-09 04:09 Gunsillie: np, so I will do that tomorrow
2014-07-09 04:09 Gunsillie: Well, later today I mean
2014-07-09 04:10 Yauxo: sounds good
2014-07-09 04:10 Yauxo: dont forget to post the log as well
2014-07-09 04:11 Gunsillie: I won't
2014-07-09 04:11 Yauxo: okay, so thanks for your time then, gn8 o/
2014-07-09 04:11 Gunsillie: Bye

Frosting's Insane

00:15:174 (5) - I think this slider doesn't follow the logic you have in this section. It should be curved like so : http://puu.sh/a3Tlk/8ef7235188.jpg (notice how it goes at the center of 00:16:220 (2) )
00:18:662 (7) - There shouldn't be a Whistle here according to how you place them when there is a high piano note (plus there is already a big number of whistles in this combo)
00:19:360 (9) - I suggest you to put Additions to Soft, then add a whistle on head and remove on tail (the piano plays the same way as @ 00:19:011 (8) )
00:21:801 (9) - Same reasoning, better without a W on tail because only the first piano note is forte .
00:23:546 (4) - ^
00:49:011 (1) - This slider is actually 1/8 beat longer, right now it sounds strange, listen to the vocal.
00:58:778 (4,5,6,7) - This is a suboptimal pattern, because the flow is not great and it looks old frankly speaking. Since you have a lot of options to replace it, I will let you decide what to do.
01:21:104 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This rhythm is really harder than the rest of the map, especially 3-4 . Imo, 4,5&6 feel kind of overmapped, please consider seriously changing them into something lighter.

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00:29:476 (5) -I don't understand, did you not overlap on purpose ? Because sometimes you do overlap, sometimes you don't.
00:35:232 (6) - ^
00:35:755 (9) - ^
00:44:825 (1) - ^
00:58:778 (4) - ^
01:06:976 (11) - ^
01:08:546 (1,2) - Here I understand, it makes sense.
01:11:336 (5) - Here I don't^^

Karia's Insane

You have an uncommon mapping style, which I don't dislike.
You use the same SV everywhere, I was expecting to see a faster Kiai...

00:04:185 (1) - With a little effort you can turn it into a proper blanket (something like this)
00:10:987 (6) - I don't see why you didn't put a whistle.
00:07:325 (2) - Generally this shape is used to set a blanket up, here you don't really do it, so you can either change the shape, or move 3, or both.
00:08:546 (1,2,3,4) - Generally I am fine with liberal spacing, but here, please keep a consistent spacing of 1.5x between these 4 notes.
00:13:429 (3,4) - You generally use curved sliders for the strings, here you don't. And they look better curved imo.
00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Your spacing varies between each note. You can make it vary, but 3-1, 1-2 and 2-3 should have the same DS for instance.
00:17:267 (2) - No real need for a second Finish, futhermore the problem is that 2 is symmetrical to 1, but you would probably be better off with 2 circles instead which would render the piano better, you can then make a blanket with 4 if you so desire (here is a way of doing it)
00:22:499 (1,1) - This looks & sounds strange, so maybe you should think about mapping the piano like you do before and after this combo.
00:26:685 (1,2,3,1) - I like a lot 00:27:383 (3,1) , but 2 doesn't make sense when you are trying to map the violin. My suggestion would be to turn 00:26:685 (1) into a 3:2 slider with a lower SV and then to remove 2. You would then have the violin nicely mapped with a fun jump between 1 and 00:27:383 (3).
00:28:080 Starting from here, it's a shame you don't use the custom whistle anymore. If it were because you are using it at the Kiai, I would agree because you would want to save your bass for the Kiai, but it is not even the case, so at least make use of it during the Kiai

00:30:871 (1) - Random suggestion : curve this one because you have a bit too many straight sliders in this section, it's better to mix things up.
00:36:801 (2) - Try Ctrl+G on this one, it plays well imo.
00:40:464 (1,2) - These are not curved enough, so they look a bit odd.
00:41:685 (6,7,1) - These jumps are not very enjoyable, a solution is to make a more obtuse triangle by moving both 7 and 1 down. You don't have to, just keep in mind that you can look for a better flow here.
00:58:429 (4,2) - These two are off-screen !
01:00:348 (2,3,4) - These jumps might be too big, just saying that in case other modders think they are.
I am really not competent enough to mod your Kiai because it is mostly jumps, and I don't really like big jumps _-_
01:21:453 (1) - Since you didn't put a NC @ 01:22:150 (3), you should not put one here.
01:22:848 (1) - No NC, same reasonning.

Alright, it's done, I think I spent in total 6 to 7 hours on this mapset, of which at least 3 were lost.
I hope I will be useful nonetheless, and you have my stars anyway.

Good luck with this mapset, looking forward to seeing it ranked.
Guns

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-07-09T21:57:40+00:00

Just posting it here, thanks Gunsillie, the irc mod might be late but It was pretty nice. I also didnt see someone spending so much time into a mod, kinda impriessive if you ask me :3 Also, thanks for the kds, I appreciate it :3

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2014-07-10T04:16:45+00:00

Gunsillie wrote:
Karia's Insane

You have an uncommon mapping style, which I don't dislike.
You use the same SV everywhere, I was expecting to see a faster Kiai... Haha,,I'm not fan about faster KIAI

00:04:185 (1) - With a little effort you can turn it into a proper blanket (something like this) Yeah, but this is not the blanket slider. Sorry
00:10:987 (6) - I don't see why you didn't put a whistle. oh, added
00:07:325 (2) - Generally this shape is used to set a blanket up, here you don't really do it, so you can either change the shape, or move 3, or both. Hmm..this slider is not for blanket. Sorry
00:08:546 (1,2,3,4) - Generally I am fine with liberal spacing, but here, please keep a consistent spacing of 1.5x between these 4 notes. Current DS is better IMO. Sorry
00:13:429 (3,4) - You generally use curved sliders for the strings, here you don't. And they look better curved imo. I like current straight sliders. (I don't know why..)
00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Your spacing varies between each note. You can make it vary, but 3-1, 1-2 and 2-3 should have the same DS for instance. Each 1, 2 and 3 notes have different beats. So they(3-1, 1-2, 2-3) don't need the same DS IMO. Sorry
00:17:267 (2) - No real need for a second Finish, futhermore the problem is that 2 is symmetrical to 1, but you would probably be better off with 2 circles instead which would render the piano better, you can then make a blanket with 4 if you so desire (here is a way of doing it) In the music, finish is in here..and well, slider is better to me. Sorry
00:22:499 (1,1) - This looks & sounds strange, so maybe you should think about mapping the piano like you do before and after this combo. About this, I don't know. Just I want to use this rhythm and placement
00:26:685 (1,2,3,1) - I like a lot 00:27:383 (3,1) , but 2 doesn't make sense when you are trying to map the violin. My suggestion would be to turn 00:26:685 (1) into a 3:2 slider with a lower SV and then to remove 2. You would then have the violin nicely mapped with a fun jump between 1 and 00:27:383 (3). Keep the SV but fixed the rhythm
00:28:080 Starting from here, it's a shame you don't use the custom whistle anymore. If it were because you are using it at the Kiai, I would agree because you would want to save your bass for the Kiai, but it is not even the case, so at least make use of it during the Kiai added :3
00:30:871 (1) - Random suggestion : curve this one because you have a bit too many straight sliders in this section, it's better to mix things up. hmm..straight slider in here is better IMO. Sorry
00:36:801 (2) - Try Ctrl+G on this one, it plays well imo. fixed
00:40:464 (1,2) - These are not curved enough, so they look a bit odd. Intentional shape
00:41:685 (6,7,1) - These jumps are not very enjoyable, a solution is to make a more obtuse triangle by moving both 7 and 1 down. You don't have to, just keep in mind that you can look for a better flow here. fixed a bit
00:58:429 (4,2) - These two are off-screen ! They are not offscreen..
01:00:348 (2,3,4) - These jumps might be too big, just saying that in case other modders think they are. No problem IMO
I am really not competent enough to mod your Kiai because it is mostly jumps, and I don't really like big jumps _-_
01:21:453 (1) - Since you didn't put a NC @ 01:22:150 (3), you should not put one here. From this, the streams' flow and DS are changed so I used the NC
01:22:848 (1) - No NC, same reasonning. Here is not NC..

Thanks for modding~

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EDIT

Gunsillie wrote:
I would like to discuss again quickly some points. No KD please

Karia wrote:
Karia's Insane

00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Your spacing varies between each note. You can make it vary, but 3-1, 1-2 and 2-3 should have the same DS for instance. Each 1, 2 and 3 notes have different beats. So they(3-1, 1-2, 2-3) don't need the same DS IMO. Sorry Okay you are right, but even then 00:14:127 (1,2) and 00:14:825 (1,2) should have the same spacing, same for 00:14:389 (2,3) and 00:15:086 (2,3) Well,, IMO, 1st (1,2,3)'s DS should be larger than 2nd (1,2,3). Cuz 1st's beat is stronger than 2nd's and 00:15:522 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this also same reason but 2nd (3) has a bit big DS for heighten music :3

00:17:267 (2) - No real need for a second Finish, futhermore the problem is that 2 is symmetrical to 1, but you would probably be better off with 2 circles instead which would render the piano better, you can then make a blanket with 4 if you so desire (here is a way of doing it) In the music, finish is in here..and well, slider is better to me. Sorry If you want to keep your slider it's fine, but the second finish is more like an echo of the first one, and the main issue I have is the very high volume of the finishes, especially the second one. It is way louder than the actual finish in the music, which is why I suggested to remove it. But if you really want to keep it, at least reduce its volume Ok, reduce the volume to 45%

Last edited by lolia 2014-07-11T06:52:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Hemmi

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Hemmi 2014-07-10T11:32:30+00:00

I would like to discuss again quickly some points. No KD please

Karia wrote:
Karia's Insane

00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Your spacing varies between each note. You can make it vary, but 3-1, 1-2 and 2-3 should have the same DS for instance. Each 1, 2 and 3 notes have different beats. So they(3-1, 1-2, 2-3) don't need the same DS IMO. Sorry Okay you are right, but even then 00:14:127 (1,2) and 00:14:825 (1,2) should have the same spacing, same for 00:14:389 (2,3) and 00:15:086 (2,3)

00:17:267 (2) - No real need for a second Finish, futhermore the problem is that 2 is symmetrical to 1, but you would probably be better off with 2 circles instead which would render the piano better, you can then make a blanket with 4 if you so desire (here is a way of doing it) In the music, finish is in here..and well, slider is better to me. Sorry If you want to keep your slider it's fine, but the second finish is more like an echo of the first one, and the main issue I have is the very high volume of the finishes, especially the second one. It is way louder than the actual finish in the music, which is why I suggested to remove it. But if you really want to keep it, at least reduce its volume

Last edited by Hemmi 2014-07-10T20:56:40+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Frostings

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Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-07-10T14:09:04+00:00

Gunsillie wrote:
Frosting's Insane

00:15:174 (5) - I think this slider doesn't follow the logic you have in this section. It should be curved like so : http://puu.sh/a3Tlk/8ef7235188.jpg (notice how it goes at the center of 00:16:220 (2) ) I suppose it doesn't make a difference if I fix it or not, so I fixed it
00:18:662 (7) - There shouldn't be a Whistle here according to how you place them when there is a high piano note (plus there is already a big number of whistles in this combo) sure, fixed
00:19:360 (9) - I suggest you to put Additions to Soft, then add a whistle on head and remove on tail (the piano plays the same way as @ 00:19:011 (8) ) I just removed the whistle
00:21:801 (9) - Same reasoning, better without a W on tail because only the first piano note is forte . sure
00:23:546 (4) - ^ mhm
00:49:011 (1) - This slider is actually 1/8 beat longer, right now it sounds strange, listen to the vocal. I reduced the volume instead on slidertail
00:58:778 (4,5,6,7) - This is a suboptimal pattern, because the flow is not great and it looks old frankly speaking. Since you have a lot of options to replace it, I will let you decide what to do. don't really see a reason to change this. As for flow, I could potentially lower SV but I'm against it
01:21:104 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - This rhythm is really harder than the rest of the map, especially 3-4 . Imo, 4,5&6 feel kind of overmapped, please consider seriously changing them into something lighter. yes I agree. it should be easier now and fit better with itself and the rest of the map

SPOILER

00:29:476 (5) -I don't understand, did you not overlap on purpose ? Because sometimes you do overlap, sometimes you don't. what am I supposed to be overlapping? the (2)? that occurs two seconds before and is long gone before that (5) shows up
00:35:232 (6) - ^ ^
00:35:755 (9) - ^ ^
00:44:825 (1) - ^ ^
00:58:778 (4) - ^ ^
01:06:976 (11) - ^ ^
01:08:546 (1,2) - Here I understand, it makes sense.
01:11:336 (5) - Here I don't^^ ^ these may look bad in editor, but that's because editor shows the notes that occur 2-3 seconds before. In testplay these notes disappear long before next ones appear and makes 0 difference whether I stack them or not. Trying to force-stack notes may look pretty in editor, but it's going to limit my object-placement, which I don't like doing

thanks for your mod !

Frostings Insane

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Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-07-10T17:53:44+00:00

updated both. Frostings if possible update your diff so that the video stays where it is :3

Fuuyu

856 posts

Joined September 2013

Fuuyu 2014-07-12T10:42:18+00:00

Sorry for the Late Reply From . . xLoupGarou's Modding Queue

*Mp3 --> OK

*BG --> OK ( Inori~ )

Nyan~MOD

[Easy]
00:35:057 (3,4) Improve Blanket

00:37:848 (2) Move ( x:8 y:176 ) and Improve

[Normal]
00:14:127 Change

00:58:080 Improve Blanket

[Samah's Hard]
00:14:127 Move ( x:344 y:256 ) and Improve

00:25:639 (4,5,6) Fix this part pls.

00:42:034 Move ( x:168 y:272 )
01:06:104 (4,5) Ctrl + G
01:10:290 (2,3) ^
01:17:267 (7,8) ^

[Frostings' Insane]
00:08:546 Move ( x:248 y:272 )
00:09:069 Move ( x:168 y:328 )
00:09:418 Move ( x:168 y:232 )
00:09:767 Move ( x:248 y:272 )
00:10:464 Move ( x:280 y:56 )
00:11:336 Move ( x:192 y:208 )
00:11:685 Move ( x:392 y:208 )
00:12:034 Move ( x:288 y:264 )
00:12:209 Move ( x:192 y:208 )
00:12:906 Move ( x:288 y:264 )
00:13:778 Move ( x:376 y:168 )
00:14:476 Move ( x:344 y:64 )
00:14:650 Move ( x:448 y:64 )

00:17:267 End here instead --> 00:17:441 then add 1 repeat

00:17:790 Move ( x:316 y:292 )
00:17:964 Move ( x:168 y:196 )
00:21:627 Move ( x:260 y:96 )
00:27:383 Add a note
00:27:732 ^
00:35:057 Move ( x:176 y:204 )
00:36:453 Move ( x:176 y:204 )
00:37:674 Move ( x:176 y:180 )
00:38:197 Ctrl + G
00:40:987 Move ( x:300 y:228 )
01:05:406 Move ( x:408 y:184 )
01:06:627 Move ( x:244 y:184 )
01:06:976 Move ( x:116 y:184 )

That's All, Have a star

Good Luck~

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-07-12T22:49:29+00:00

SPOILER

xLoupGarou wrote:
Sorry for the Late Reply From . . xLoupGarou's Modding Queue

*Mp3 --> OK

*BG --> OK ( Inori~ )

Nyan~MOD
[Easy]
00:35:057 (3,4) Improve Blanket

00:37:848 (2) Move ( x:8 y:176 ) and Improve

Both are fine imo.
[Normal]
00:14:127 Change That'd kill the spacing

00:58:080 Improve Blanket this .. uhm, there is no blanket

That's All, Have a star
Good Luck~

Thanks :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-07-13T01:12:03+00:00

xLoupGarou wrote:
[Samah's Hard]
00:14:127 Move ( x:344 y:256 ) and Improve

Breaks spacing, so no.

00:25:639 (4,5,6) Fix this part pls.

That's intentional, so no.

00:42:034 Move ( x:168 y:272 )
Again breaks spacing.

01:06:104 (4,5) Ctrl + G
No.

01:10:290 (2,3) ^
^

01:17:267 (7,8) ^
^

No change.

Pho

1,785 posts

Joined November 2013

Pho 2014-07-15T00:37:53+00:00

[Frostings' Insane]

01:13:953 (2) - this circle somewhat destroys the symmetry, why not putting it at the end of the slider?
01:14:825 (1,2) - reverting the slider and put the circle at the end of it may fit better

Not much to say about this one, good map!

[Karia's Insane]
Most things are just 'beautifications', there aren't many flaws from my point of view. Great fun map.

01:09:941 (1) - slider shape can be better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1818705
00:01:394 (1) - this shape can be made better
00:02:615 (4,5) - i think the slider's end is too close to the next one, a bigger distance would be more clearer for players
00:05:755 (1) - reversing the slider makes it clearer, alsogoes better with the flow of the map ^_^
00:19:708 (1) - move slider-begin a little bit up to fit the end of the next slider better
00:21:104 (1) - may be good to put the circle down to the 4, it fits better to the melody imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1818748
00:55:987 (1) - slider shape may be better

Good luck for this getting ranked, hope it will happen soon.

Greetings,
paseli

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2014-07-15T02:27:13+00:00

paseli wrote:
[Karia's Insane]
Most things are just 'beautifications', there aren't many flaws from my point of view. Great fun map.

01:09:941 (1) - slider shape can be better https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1818705 fixed a bit
00:01:394 (1) - this shape can be made better np IMO
00:02:615 (4,5) - i think the slider's end is too close to the next one, a bigger distance would be more clearer for players Intentional DS
00:05:755 (1) - reversing the slider makes it clearer, alsogoes better with the flow of the map ^_^ I prefer the current it. Sorry
00:19:708 (1) - move slider-begin a little bit up to fit the end of the next slider better Current placement is better for 7-1 IMO, sorry
00:21:104 (1) - may be good to put the circle down to the 4, it fits better to the melody imo https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1818748 A bit strange to me. Sorry
00:55:987 (1) - slider shape may be better Current shape also is fine IMO, sorry

Thanks for modding!

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Frostings

913 posts

Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-07-15T15:02:22+00:00

sorry no change from either mod for now, but I may look it over again with other people and change it later

Kihhou

1,040 posts

Joined March 2013

Kihhou 2014-07-16T00:11:13+00:00

[Frosty's Ins]
may want to double the number of NCs youre using. as it is now, 100% accuracy on HR takes you to about 50%~60% hp for the verse. a few 100s or a miss could instakill in that section ;-;

Frostings

913 posts

Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-07-16T18:57:52+00:00

NC changes

osu file format v13

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Zetera

Medal Hunter

1,019 posts

Joined November 2010

Zetera 2014-07-18T13:15:50+00:00

Here's the requested mod on the both GD-Insanes.

[Karia]

00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - | Inconsistent spacing between each set of 1-3, besides that, the first set's spacing is higher in general. Any reason for that?
If not, consider equalizing the spacing in the sets and create a jump between (3) of the first set and (1) of the second one.
00:22:499 (1,1) - | This appears to be kind of boring. There are elements in the music that you can follow.
00:27:383 (2,1) - | I understand what you wanted to try here, it actually isn't that bad. But I really disagree with the slider extensions here, they simply don't fit. This surely works with normal 1/4-Sliders.

[Frostings]

00:30:174 (3,4,5,6) - |I don't see any reason why the spacing should increase here. (Apart from a transition to the next slider's distance to (6)) But basically it's not wrong to be done.
01:05:755 (1,4) - | Kinda weird overlap that should be fixed. I hope you can find a solution because of 01:07:499 (2) -.
01:12:732 (1,2,3,4,1,3,4,5,6,1) - | That's basically the same pattern, feels and looks kinda uncreative.

Not too much to be pointed out, but I hope it was still useful. Good luck with ranking it, should be possible.

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2014-07-19T05:03:55+00:00

Sala- wrote:
Here's the requested mod on the both GD-Insanes.

[Karia]

00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - | Inconsistent spacing between each set of 1-3, besides that, the first set's spacing is higher in general. Any reason for that? If not, consider equalizing the spacing in the sets and create a jump between (3) of the first set and (1) of the second one.
About this part, just I followed the music like 00:15:522 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - this DS.
00:22:499 (1,1) - | This appears to be kind of boring. There are elements in the music that you can follow. ,,,,Ok
00:27:383 (2,1) - | I understand what you wanted to try here, it actually isn't that bad. But I really disagree with the slider extensions here, they simply don't fit. This surely works with normal 1/4-Sliders. Well, I don't want to follow the vocal in this part. Following the music is better IMO. Sorry

Thanks for modding~

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Frostings

913 posts

Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-07-19T12:54:53+00:00

Sala- wrote:
[Frostings]
00:30:174 (3,4,5,6) - |I don't see any reason why the spacing should increase here. (Apart from a transition to the next slider's distance to (6)) But basically it's not wrong to be done. that's exactly why the spacing increases, for the transition to the next slider
01:05:755 (1,4) - | Kinda weird overlap that should be fixed. I hope you can find a solution because of 01:07:499 (2) -.This overlap is fine (overlaps should really only be fixed if it's unreadable or if it looks terrible, which imo looks fine)
01:12:732 (1,2,3,4,1,3,4,5,6,1) - | That's basically the same pattern, feels and looks kinda uncreative.I might change later if I can think of something

thanks for your mod ~

Smoothie

569 posts

Joined August 2011

Smoothie 2014-07-21T21:47:47+00:00

Heya
M4M from my queue

[General]

Seems fine

[Karia's Insane]

00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This plays REALLY weird imo. Especially these 00:14:389 (2,3) Try it like this instead. It follows the music way better.

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00:15:784 (2) - Why is this note placed on the blue line? You can't here anything there. Move it to here instead 00:15:697
00:16:482 (2) - Same here. Move it to 00:16:394
00:16:569 - Add a note here if you moved the ones i've mentioned above.
00:16:743 (4) - Remove this note.
00:44:301 (4,5) - Ctrl+G for a better flow? Don't forget to swap your hitsounds too if you applied this one.
01:02:267 (3) - Ctrl+G? Same reason as i've mentioned above.
01:23:894 (1) - Hm... start the spinner at 01:23:982 and add a note here 01:23:894 with a finish? Ofc don't forget to shorten your spinner if you apply this one.

[Frostings' Insane]

00:06:104 (2) - Finish on the slider start?
00:15:522 (1,2) - These should be 1/2 sliders. Try this

SPOILER

00:17:267 (2) - Finish on the slider start~
00:56:162 and 00:56:249 - Add notes there? So that you have a tripplet. For a nice flow you can place them like this

SPOILER

[Insane]

00:06:104 (3) - Finish on the slider start?
00:15:522 (1,2) - Same as I mentioned on Frostings' diff. I think these should be 1/2 sliders.
00:23:022 (2,3) - Why that sudden spacing change?
00:23:371 (4,5) - ^
00:53:546 (2) - Move this one to x:96 y:48 to avoid the overlap.
01:23:894 - How about doing the same thing here like I suggested on Karia's diff?

[Samah's Hard]

00:05:755 (1) - Finish on the slider end~
00:14:650 (2) - Place it at x:260 y:372 for a better flow?
00:28:080 (2) - Finish on the slider end
00:29:999 (7) - I think it would flow better if you'd Ctrl+G this one.
00:49:708 (1) - Remove the clap and add a finish? Sound quite nice.
01:18:836 (2) - x:476 y:316 for a better flow?

[Normal]

00:38:894 (4) - Stack this with 00:37:499 (2) to keep the flow going~

[Easy]

00:36:453 (1,2) - How about something more nicer looking? Like this for example

SPOILER

Well, that's all
Good luck!

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2014-07-22T00:16:05+00:00

Smoothie wrote:
[Karia's Insane]
00:14:127 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - This plays REALLY weird imo. Especially these 00:14:389 (2,3) Try it like this instead. It follows the music way better. I want to keep current rhythm. Sorry
SPOILER

00:15:784 (2) - Why is this note placed on the blue line? You can't here anything there. Move it to here instead 00:15:697 Hmm...Why?? In the music, here is the beat. Really... ;w;
00:16:482 (2) - Same here. Move it to 00:16:394 ^
00:16:569 - Add a note here if you moved the ones i've mentioned above.
00:16:743 (4) - Remove this note. Sorry,,, I really can't catch about the reason,,,
00:44:301 (4,5) - Ctrl+G for a better flow? Don't forget to swap your hitsounds too if you applied this one. Current flow is better to me. Sorry
01:02:267 (3) - Ctrl+G? Same reason as i've mentioned above. Keep current one. Just I want it, sorry
01:23:894 (1) - Hm... start the spinner at 01:23:982 and add a note here 01:23:894 with a finish? Ofc don't forget to shorten your spinner if you apply this one. Personally, not fit about adding a note in here. Sorry

Thanks for modding~

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-07-22T00:39:11+00:00

smoothie

Smoothie wrote:
[Insane]
00:06:104 (3) - Finish on the slider start? I guess not, I prefer it the way it is atm
00:15:522 (1,2) - Same as I mentioned on Frostings' diff. I think these should be 1/2 sliders. It doesnt really appeal to me that way. I see your reasoning behind it, but I prefer the 3/4
00:23:022 (2,3) - Why that sudden spacing change? Atleast in my head those 2-2-2's are seperated. First ones are high, second ones are silent, third ones build up and the slider after it releases it
00:23:371 (4,5) - ^
00:53:546 (2) - Move this one to x:96 y:48 to avoid the overlap. Did that on purpose
01:23:894 - How about doing the same thing here like I suggested on Karia's diff? I do that in most of my diffs, but I try to avoid it here as there is no real beat to hit on. It kinda sounds like a quiet sound that get thrown around in a box until it breaks out. Maybe I'll consider it though

[Normal]
00:38:894 (4) - Stack this with 00:37:499 (2) to keep the flow going~ Fixed this in another way

[Easy]
00:36:453 (1,2) - How about something more nicer looking? Like this for example
SPOILER
Ive had this multiple times, I like this one more.

Well, that's all
Good luck!

Thanks :3

Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-07-23T09:06:29+00:00

Smoothie wrote:
[Samah's Hard]
00:05:755 (1) - Finish on the slider end~
No.
00:14:650 (2) - Place it at x:260 y:372 for a better flow?
^
00:28:080 (2) - Finish on the slider end
^
00:29:999 (7) - I think it would flow better if you'd Ctrl+G this one.
Ok.
00:49:708 (1) - Remove the clap and add a finish? Sound quite nice.
No.
01:18:836 (2) - x:476 y:316 for a better flow?
^

Thanks, one small change.

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Frostings

913 posts

Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-07-23T20:58:54+00:00

fixed from Smoothie's mod

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osu file format v13

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LunarSakuya

osu! Alumni

1,704 posts

Joined August 2011

LunarSakuya 2014-07-28T02:27:26+00:00

=v=

General
- Your own diffs should have identical kiai times. So I suggest you make Insane's first kiai end at 01:00:871 instead of at 01:01:133

Easy
00:00:174 (1) - Whistle on head would sound nice so this intro doesn't feel as empty
00:02:964 (1) - ^

Normal
00:00:174 (1) - same as Easy, I suggest whistle on head here as well as at 00:02:964 (1) -
00:39:243 (1,2) - a bit far from each other, easy fix with distance snap
01:01:569 (1) - Finish on head would be fitting
very clean

Samah's Hard
00:11:860 (2,3,4,5) - Consider this rhythm instead:

SPOILER

(feel free to ignore placement bc i notice you like to use distance snap xD In the future, i recommend you try breaking distance snap occasionally & make some interesting jumps. If done properly, it'd be great for your more exciting parts, like the kiai times and such~) Though I understand you may be doing this to diversify the rhythm a bit, the 1/1 sliders emphasize the violin holds better imo.
00:25:639 (4,5,6,7) - you could pull off some nice symmetry here

SPOILER

01:07:150 (1,2,1,2) - for each of these sliders ends, try using Normal sample set with Soft addition clap. This would emphasize the downbeat nicely
00:51:801 (5) - first, I was a little confused with the NC pattern in this kiai. You switch off between adding an NC every 4 or 8 white ticks . Unless it's intentional, you should follow a set pattern in this case. I'd personally go with every 4 ticks since I see your combos tended to get a bit long imo =v= so I suggest an NC here. Also helps balance drain

00:57:383 (6) - if you did the above, NC
01:00:174 (6) - ^
01:05:755 (3) - ^
01:12:034 (1) - Delete NC i guess
01:14:127 (5) - NC
01:16:918 (6) - ^
01:19:708 (5) - ^

01:21:104 (1) - hmm perhaps end the spinner like the rest of the diffs? xD

Insane
00:02:964 (1) - minor but you could blanket this better over (2)
00:11:336 (1,2) - maybe increase the spacing to create a triangle with (1,2,3)

SPOILER

00:12:034 (5,6) - again, consider moving (6) up to create a sort of triangle flow. (2,6) seem a bit like antijumps in this case. Making the distance equal within the combo creates a smoother flow with the escalation of the music imo
00:19:360 (3,4,1) - you could try this pattern or something similar

SPOILER

distinguishes the jump couplets a little more
00:21:801 (2,3) - suggest you Ctrl+ G. Creates a jump from (1) to (2) that follows the high piano transition
00:47:615 (1) - Normal sample set would sound cool to emphasize that "drop" in the bgm
01:09:243 (3,4) - perhaps rotate like this to create a pinwheel shape?

SPOILER

nice oval flow imo
01:21:104 (1) - as mentioned before, I recommend Normal sample set
01:23:197 (3,4) - Space these out? felt a bit cramped for this finale here
Felt that the flow was a bit too linear for an Insane. Next time, consider integrating more interesting jump patterns =v= very nice~

Frosting's Insane
00:47:615 (1) - try Normal sample set to emphasize the "drop" here
00:50:400 (1) - Finish on head
00:51:627 (5) - consider stacking this on the head of 00:52:499 (3) -

SPOILER

the oval flow works very well here imo
nice butterfly patterns

Karia's Insane
00:31:394 (3) - maybe move this out a little to the right to make a nice triangle with (2,3,4)

SPOILER

provides more clarity imo instead of hiding it under a darker combo color

I also felt that timing was a bit late. Try -6 (168) offset. Thanks captin for double checking
Don't forget to resnap the green lines & preview point

Lovely map~

lolia

1,356 posts

Joined May 2012

lolia 2014-07-28T10:55:58+00:00

LunarSakuya wrote:
Karia's Insane
00:31:394 (3) - maybe move this out a little to the right to make a nice triangle with (2,3,4)
SPOILER
provides more clarity imo instead of hiding it under a darker combo color ok, fixed

Thanks for modding!

SPOILER

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Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Topic Starter

Yauxo 2014-07-28T13:25:07+00:00

LunarSakuya wrote:
=v=

General
- Your own diffs should have identical kiai times. So I suggest you make Insane's first kiai end at 01:00:871 instead of at 01:01:133 Ive had it like this to support the full slider and not have it end in the middle of it, but okay, I guess, changed

Easy
00:00:174 (1) - Whistle on head would sound nice so this intro doesn't feel as empty changed
00:02:964 (1) - ^ changed

Normal
00:00:174 (1) - same as Easy, I suggest whistle on head here as well as at 00:02:964 (1) - changed
00:39:243 (1,2) - a bit far from each other, easy fix with distance snap oops, fixed
01:01:569 (1) - Finish on head would be fitting I probably forgot this one as Ive set finishes on similar ones. Fixed
very clean Thats how I try to map :3

Insane
00:02:964 (1) - minor but you could blanket this better over (2) made it a little bit more blanketyer .. (thats a word)
00:11:336 (1,2) - maybe increase the spacing to create a triangle with (1,2,3)
SPOILER
00:12:034 (5,6) - again, consider moving (6) up to create a sort of triangle flow. (2,6) seem a bit like antijumps in this case. Making the distance equal within the combo creates a smoother flow with the escalation of the music imo Ive increased the spacing on both by a bit, but still have a little bit more spacing towards the next triplets. This is because I want to keep a little jump to the rolling sound. Also applied for 00:13:080 (4,5,6) -
00:19:360 (3,4,1) - you could try this pattern or something similar
SPOILER
distinguishes the jump couplets a little more Giving it a try
00:21:801 (2,3) - suggest you Ctrl+ G. Creates a jump from (1) to (2) that follows the high piano transition Iam not too much of a fna of now the flow is then (a little bit more zigzag) but I guess it actually wouldnt hurt. Especially since the jump to the piano really fits
00:47:615 (1) - Normal sample set would sound cool to emphasize that "drop" in the bgm changed, but also lowered the volume.
01:09:243 (3,4) - perhaps rotate like this to create a pinwheel shape?
SPOILER
nice oval flow imo All of my yes
01:21:104 (1) - as mentioned before, I recommend Normal sample set I dont actually think that it fits here. The first one sounds fine to me as it's a build up noise. This one is more of a finished sound .. but then again it has the drum roll thingy ... aaah D: I'll ask you ingame about it
01:23:197 (3,4) - Space these out? felt a bit cramped for this finale here changed
Felt that the flow was a bit too linear for an Insane. Next time, consider integrating more interesting jump patterns =v= very nice~ I like to map easy and fun to play Insanes, so thats why it might seem rather easy and simple. And thanks! :3

I also felt that timing was a bit late. Try -6 (168) offset. Thanks captin for double checking changed
Don't forget to resnap the green lines & preview point

Lovely map~

Thanks alot! Ive resnapped every diff, feel free to update before you mod samah and frostings

Frostings

913 posts

Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-07-28T16:01:10+00:00

LunarSakuya wrote:
Frosting's Insane
00:47:615 (1) - try Normal sample set to emphasize the "drop" here nice, added
00:50:400 (1) - Finish on head whoops forgot that one
00:51:627 (5) - consider stacking this on the head of 00:52:499 (3) -
SPOILER
the oval flow works very well here imo the flow is quite better, but my only problem with it is that 00:51:098 (3,4,5) - looks a little strange. I could have moved some of the objects around to make up for it, but decided against it

Thanks :3

frostings insane

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Samah

423 posts

Joined May 2010

Samah 2014-07-29T10:17:43+00:00

LunarSakuya wrote:
Samah's Hard
00:11:860 (2,3,4,5) - Consider this rhythm instead:
SPOILER
(feel free to ignore placement bc i notice you like to use distance snap xD In the future, i recommend you try breaking distance snap occasionally & make some interesting jumps. If done properly, it'd be great for your more exciting parts, like the kiai times and such~) Though I understand you may be doing this to diversify the rhythm a bit, the 1/1 sliders emphasize the violin holds better imo.
I see what you mean about the violin holds but it was originally based (kinda) on the guitar. I tried heaps of stuff here but I couldn’t find something that fit my original vision for that section.
00:25:639 (4,5,6,7) - you could pull off some nice symmetry here
SPOILER
Looks pretty cool.
01:07:150 (1,2,1,2) - for each of these sliders ends, try using Normal sample set with Soft addition clap. This would emphasize the downbeat nicely
I don’t hear any difference… but ok. >_>
00:51:801 (5) - first, I was a little confused with the NC pattern in this kiai. You switch off between adding an NC every 4 or 8 white ticks . Unless it's intentional, you should follow a set pattern in this case. I'd personally go with every 4 ticks since I see your combos tended to get a bit long imo =v= so I suggest an NC here. Also helps balance drain
Actually I missed that one, thanks.
00:57:383 (6) - if you did the above, NC
01:00:174 (6) - ^
01:05:755 (3) - ^
01:12:034 (1) - Delete NC i guess
01:14:127 (5) - NC
01:16:918 (6) - ^
01:19:708 (5) - ^
Done.
01:21:104 (1) - hmm perhaps end the spinner like the rest of the diffs? xD
Aww…. ok.

Thanks.

Re: Distance spacing and jumps:
Since I stopped using grid snap (yay) I find myself sticking to distance spacing a lot more. I probably could have done some more jumps in this map, but the song feels very "flowy" for lack of a better word, and I thought a steady stream of perfect spacing would be a nice feel for it.

SPOILER

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Tags:samah ryo supercell chelly opening frostings karia
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