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Tomoya Ohtani - Rooftop Run (Daytime) [Osu|Taiko]

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chaotic_iak
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 09 Desember 2012 at 20:55:21

Artist: Tomoya Ohtani
Title: Rooftop Run (Daytime)
Source: Sonic Unleashed
Tags: sonic unleashed spagonia qwertykool okamiratsu
BPM: 180,04
Filesize: 3625kb
Play Time: 02:55
Difficulties Available:
  1. QwertyK's Rooftop Hustle (5 stars, 450 notes)
  2. QwertyK's Rooftop Taiko (4,27 stars, 507 notes)
  3. Ratsu's Taiko (5 stars, 670 notes)
  4. Roof Breaker (Extra) (5 stars, 606 notes)
  5. Rooftop Breeze (Easy) (2,6 stars, 178 notes)
  6. Rooftop Dash (Hard) (4,39 stars, 274 notes)
  7. Rooftop Jog (Normal) (4,26 stars, 229 notes)
  8. Rooftop Rush (Insane) (4,98 stars, 522 notes)
Download: Tomoya Ohtani - Rooftop Run (Daytime)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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From Sonic Unleashed (not Sonic Generations). The background music of Rooftop Run (Spagonia) when you play the daytime level.

Rooftop Breeze (Easy), Rooftop Jog (Normal), Rooftop Dash (Hard), Rooftop Rush (Insane but more like Hard+), Roof Breaker (Extra) by me. Rooftop Hustle (Insane) and Qwerty's Rooftop Taiko (easier Taiko) by qwertykool. Ratsu's Taiko (harder Taiko) by okamiratsu.
osu!: Everything below and including Insane should be playable by fairly experienced players. Hustle should be between Insane and Extra; I managed to do some partial completion there. Extra is extreme.
Taiko: I'm not good at Taiko, but I'm pretty sure I can pass Qwerty's and not Ratsu's.

Current progress: Complete.
Open for mod: Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane, Extra, qwertykool's Hustle, qwertykool's Taiko, okamiratsu's Taiko

[Update Log (UTC+7)]
Update 38 (9 December 2012, 20:56): Update beatmap after P o M u T a's mod.
Update 37 (29 November 2012, 14:11): Update beatmap, mostly merging qwertykool's new updates. Also to somewhat bump this.
Update 36 (6 November 2012, 20:50): Okay gave up at mapping my own Taiko and get qwertykool to do it, which I'd say much better than mine :P
Update 35 (23 October 2012, 17:35): Apparently I'm extremely bad at mapping Taiko. I'm not sure whether this one I've made is sufficiently "rhythmic" or not...
Update 34 (15 October 2012, 18:12): Taiko diffs including okamiratsu's guest Taiko. Darn now I need to make one Taiko diff to complete the requirement of at least two Taiko maps.
Update 33 (13 October 2012, 11:58): Kin's mod
Update 32 (13 October 2012, 11:29): Testing BSSv2, bumping because I'm still actively finding mods, and so on.
Update 31 (20 September 2012, 20:24): All done.

Mods:
09-Dec-2012: P o M u T a
05-Oct-2012: Kin
15-Sep-2012: Patcheresu
27-Aug-2012: DakeDekaane
28-May-2012: MaSingerZ
Last edited by chaotic_iak , edited 44 times in total.
ztrot
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ztrot
I got 180.040 with a offset of 279 the strings in this song are a bit tricky to tak correctly tho.
MaSingerZ
MaSingerZ
Thaks for modding my map!
-General-
I suggest you should use more precies grid level.
-Easy-
○from AImod(ctrl+shift+A)
01:10:430(2,3)-this object is too close the previous object.
01:11:929(4,5)-^
02:11:749(2,3)-this object is too far the previous object.
You may remake this difficulty completely because of your sound taking is not better.

-Insane-
00:25:606(9)-add NC
00:54:766(8)-^
00:57:432(7)-^
01:05:431(8)-^
01:27:759(9)-add NC or diffrent placement
01:43:089(6)-add NC
01:56:253(9)-^
01:58:919(9)-^
02:06:917(9)-^
02:08:250(17)-^
02:18:581(5)-^
and more

Good Luck!!
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak

MaSingerZ wrote:

Thanks for modding my map! You're welcome!

[General]
I suggest you should use more precise grid level. Nah; using grid level 2 is sufficiently precise for nice patterns and also to avoid me to count too many gridpoints when making symmetrical designs. I sometimes change to level 3 when I make long sliders, and even disable grid-snapping when distance-snapping.

[Easy]
01:10:430(2,3)-this object is too close the previous object. But the distance spacing is still x1.00, so I consider that no problem.
01:11:929(4,5)-^ Same as above
02:11:749(2,3)-this object is too far the previous object. Same as above.
You may remake this difficulty completely because of your sound taking is not better. Uh the rhythms I take is sufficiently easy for Easy and still hear-able, although I'll see that.

[Insane]
00:25:606(9)-add NC Don't see anything wrong with that. It's Insane after all; it's pretty commonplace in Insane diffs that combo lengths go to the teens.
00:54:766(8)-^ Same as above.
00:57:432(7)-^ Same as above.
01:05:431(8)-^ Same as above.
01:27:759(9)-add NC or diffrent placement Same as above.
01:43:089(6)-add NC Okay this one I agree. Fixed.
01:56:253(9)-^ Back to disagreeing with the same reason.
01:58:919(9)-^ Same as above.
02:06:917(9)-^ Fixed.
02:08:250(17)-^ Fixed.
02:18:581(5)-^ Fixed.
and more Fixed all that I see.

Good Luck!! Thanks!
qwertykool
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qwertykool
OOOO :D Favorite song from unleashed, and since you helped me with mine, I'll try to mod yours :3. Oh, and definitely check out the modern generations mix, (I think it's even better, which is really hard to do with this song!)
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Alrighty, modding time! :3

Crucial things are in red
Recommended things in blue
Opinionated things in green

Rooftop Breeze
Overall
Phew, this map, could use a makeover, very hard to mod in the current state. But some some tips, especially if you don't want to redo this map.

-DO NOT use the offbeat of a song for many notes in a combo. (Sliders, if not overused, are able to slide [No pun intended] on this problem.)
-DO NOT repeat sliders more than once. (Cmon, xD you told me this yourself on my map)
-You have A LOT of empty space on this map, and they aren't breaks, and if they were, there'd be too many breaks. :3
- A few of the sliders overlap either another slider or a hit circle. It's difficult to see that.
-Try not to use the melody on an easy difficulty unless the melody follows a very on-beat rhythm. (This one definitely does not)
-WAY TOO MANY sliders, definitely cut back on them.

No individual things for Easy, it's not easy at all to mod, and [in my opinion] the map is a little too hard, despite the few hits.

Rooftop Dash
Great map until 2:05:584, At that point, it looked like you gave up. xD
Overall

- Although easy had more, I only recommended it because it was an easy. This is crucial, there NEEDS to be either less spinners or they need to be placed in better spots, because they kind of just pop out at you while your playing, it isn't expected.
-DO NOTput a hit circle directly on top of a slider, it's impossible to see where to click next. Same goes for slider on slider, slider on hit circle, etc.
-DO NOTuse sixteenth notes on a Hard map, and if you do, use them very sparsely.
-FIXFIXFIXFIXFIX Probably the most important problem with this map, is that after the above mentioned point, some notes were marked off the tick, which is a timing error. It sounds atrocious, and I know that it wasn't on purpose, but fix it, it hurts mah ears. :(
-Some sliders look, peculiar, :/ make sure they are symmetrical as a general rule. If not they kinda look bizarre. (Some are fine, but look at all of them, and make sure you can say proudly "Hey! I made that, and I'm proud of it! : D) xD
-Drop the approach rate and overall difficulty. Just by one for each, not needed, but I thought it'd be nice.

Individual Thingsnote: These are only things that weren't mentioned in the general things.

00:29:605 - Repeats twice? Maybe once, then add something
2:05:584 - 2:08:750 - Way too long combo. Combos must be no longer than 16, and (IMHO) no longer than 10 for Hard maps. Also, the whistles are in peculiar spots.
Many areas don't look finished towards the end, as if you just simply stacked them just to finish later. If that's the case, arrange them, if not, arrange them! xD

Rooftop Rush
Overall, really, I can't think of any that weren't already stated in the previous two difficulties. Look at those, and apply an "Insane" mentality to them, and go from there.

Pleased to help,
Qwertykool
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak

qwertykool wrote:

Rooftop Breeze
Overall
Phew, this map, could use a makeover, very hard to mod in the current state. But some some tips, especially if you don't want to redo this map. I'm redoing it anyway, seeing other Easy maps.

-DO NOT use the offbeat of a song for many notes in a combo. (Sliders, if not overused, are able to slide [No pun intended] on this problem.) Too much hard diffs makes me use the style there here :P Edited.
-DO NOT repeat sliders more than once. (Cmon, xD you told me this yourself on my map) It only applies if the slider is short (1/2-beat, additionally 1-beat for Easy). But yeah.
-You have A LOT of empty space on this map, and they aren't breaks, and if they were, there'd be too many breaks. :3 Yeah I know. That's why I'm redoing it.
- A few of the sliders overlap either another slider or a hit circle. It's difficult to see that. Really? I don't remember any here. And I deleted those parts for the redo. Meh.
-Try not to use the melody on an easy difficulty unless the melody follows a very on-beat rhythm. (This one definitely does not) See also: I redo the map
-WAY TOO MANY sliders, definitely cut back on them. Wut? I only have like half as many sliders as hitcircles. Although I'll keep that in mind.

No individual things for Easy, it's not easy at all to mod, and [in my opinion] the map is a little too hard, despite the few hits.

Rooftop Dash
Great map until 2:05:584, At that point, it looked like you gave up. xD See also: Update 8. Also all my comments are based on the finished Hard (until 01:49:588), so if you say something about the part after that break, then you can make sure it's changed; it's leftover of Insane which I haven't edited anyway.
Overall

- Although easy had more, I only recommended it because it was an easy. This is crucial, there NEEDS to be either less spinners or they need to be placed in better spots, because they kind of just pop out at you while your playing, it isn't expected. Alright, modified some.
-DO NOTput a hit circle directly on top of a slider, it's impossible to see where to click next. Same goes for slider on slider, slider on hit circle, etc. There's a reason why this is called Hard, and I use them pretty sparingly.
-DO NOTuse sixteenth notes on a Hard map, and if you do, use them very sparsely. Where do I use sixteenth note?
-FIXFIXFIXFIXFIX Probably the most important problem with this map, is that after the above mentioned point, some notes were marked off the tick, which is a timing error. It sounds atrocious, and I know that it wasn't on purpose, but fix it, it hurts mah ears. :( Can you give some example?
-Some sliders look, peculiar, :/ make sure they are symmetrical as a general rule. If not they kinda look bizarre. (Some are fine, but look at all of them, and make sure you can say proudly "Hey! I made that, and I'm proud of it! : D) xD Can you give some example?
-Drop the approach rate and overall difficulty. Just by one for each, not needed, but I thought it'd be nice. Done.

Individual Thingsnote: These are only things that weren't mentioned in the general things.

00:29:605 - Repeats twice? Maybe once, then add something Nah, this (breaking what sounds like should be in one slider when it fits with something else) is fun and I see a few in other maps too.
2:05:584 - 2:08:750 - Way too long combo. Combos must be no longer than 16, and (IMHO) no longer than 10 for Hard maps. Also, the whistles are in peculiar spots. See also: Update 8
Many areas don't look finished towards the end, as if you just simply stacked them just to finish later. If that's the case, arrange them, if not, arrange them! xD See also: Update 8

Rooftop Rush
Overall, really, I can't think of any that weren't already stated in the previous two difficulties. Look at those, and apply an "Insane" mentality to them, and go from there. Uh I can't see any of the mentioned suggestions that can be applied here. Any example?

Pleased to help,
Qwertykool
Thanks for the mod! I'm still working at the time of post.
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Oops, xD when I said "Too many sliders under easy, I meant spinners, forgive me :(
For the timing problems in Hard, after the mentioned point, everything (Espc. Sliders) were a little off the marks, giving the player an extra 10 tick points because of the slight extension. Auto the map, and you can see the extra 10 that comes from the slider the moment before the slider ends.
Sliders: Some went down, then left, and the one pretty soon afterwards did the same thing but just a tad different, which is extremely noticeable.
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
How about the edited version?

Yeah slider speed decreased and leftover of Insane notes, hence the result. But now edited.

Uh time please?
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Working on an Insane Guest Difficulty (Qwerty's Rooftop Hustle) I'll link it when I'm done, it may be a couple days. But, so far, it's pretty nice. I'm working on it right now. :3
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Tis done! :3
Due to the stupid "no more attachments" thing, I had to put it through puush
Right click, save as, you know what to do from there, if not PM me :3
http://puu.sh/zmqC

PS: please add me to tags, if you include this

Thanks,
QwertyK
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
Okay, included in beatmap! Apparently I'm not really good at large spacing -_-

Normal is still pending.

Mod to your (qwertykool's) diff is basically something around "the spacing is larger here but it's Insane so it's okay" and "why kiai time is different from the other diffs".
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Heh... Um, thanks for the inclusion! It takes a long time to really understand, and I'm sure I still don't understand it fully! :3
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
Updated by me to fix the small break and countdown speed.
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Update it to my new version in here xD Fix things afterwords x3
http://puu.sh/Aytl

Also, please, keep the countdown as it was, I thought it sounded better at half than normal. If you wanna discuss this, please pm me. :/
chaotic_iak
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Updated, although I see a few problems, especially towards the end. There's a long no-object time and also large HP drain, so you might want to put a few things there. Otherwise, I think it's okay besides the countdown problem that I'm currently talking to you by PM.
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Here, xD Thisshould be the last "Update from Qwerty!"

http://puu.sh/FPVl
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
Hopefully I can update my beatmap soon. I'm participatin in International Mathematical Olympiad in Argentina and my departure for Argentina is in 24 hours, where then I can't update stuffs anymore because I don't bring my laptop until I'm back in my home on 20 July or something. Yep, if I don't update in time, then be very patient...
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Holy crap, good luck xD Indonesia to Argentina! Well, no rush :3
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
Yep, updated. :)
qwertykool
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qwertykool
: D Yey! :3 You never know, if I see something in the map I don't like, I'll update it xD.
chaotic_iak
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Hurr.

How do you get mods from others? Or better, how do you get MAT to look on your maps? I'm having trouble with getting this map ranked (or at least seen by MAT).
qwertykool
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qwertykool
You're gonna need a TON more modding as you require more in order for ranking, from what I've seen. (Response to last question xD) For more modding, try modding queues [Link: http://d.osu.ppy.sh/forum/60] and also kudosu stars.
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
Finding queues that has rules where this beatmap can be modded is hard :( Not so many queues want to mod 3-min 6 diffs beatmap.
DakeDekaane
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Hi, mod time~

[Rooftop Breeze]

00:50:934 (5) - NC
02:04:251 (1,2,3,4,5) - You should change the pattern here, 02:05:584 (5) is not completely hidden, but it's confusing with the approach circles.
02:44:242 (5) - Maybe NC
02:46:908 (5) - ^

[Rooftop Jog]

00:48:268 (1) - This gets covered by previous combo
01:42:922 - Try this and keep if you like

01:48:255 - ^

[QwertyK's Rooftop Hustle]

00:10:943 (1) - This note may be covered by HP bar, you should move it.

Edit: All uninherited timing points (red lines) must be the same in all diffs (source: osu! wiki)

That's all from my part, good luck c:
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Alright, thanks for the mod on mine as well, I'll get that going.
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi, mod time~

[Rooftop Breeze]
00:50:934 (5) - NC Done
02:04:251 (1,2,3,4,5) - You should change the pattern here, 02:05:584 (5) is not completely hidden, but it's confusing with the approach circles. Done
02:44:242 (5) - Maybe NC Done
02:46:908 (5) - ^ Done

[Rooftop Jog]

00:48:268 (1) - This gets covered by previous combo Done
01:42:922 - Try this and keep if you like I prefer making some stream-like beats to introduce Normal players with stream, although if there is further complaint I'll see how I can change it
01:48:255 - ^ ^

All uninherited timing points (red lines) must be the same in all diffs (source: osu! wiki) Uh qwertykool, you have different uninherited timing sections (including two extremely questionable ones 02:00:252 and 02:10:938). Fix them (and the subsequent different timings caused by the timing section in 01:38:975)?

That's all from my part, good luck c: Thanks :)
qwertykool
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qwertykool

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi, mod time~

[QwertyK's Rooftop Hustle]

00:10:943 (1) - This note may be covered by HP bar, you should move it.

Edit: All uninherited timing points (red lines) must be the same in all diffs (source: osu! wiki)

That's all from my part, good luck c:
Done, thanks!

http://puu.sh/10shn
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Y u no reply! >:3
chaotic_iak
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Absolutely forgot :P Will add ASAP.
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Sorry for killing you with the updates, but I got another one, this one has to do with beat placements, and some of their time placements. Making it a lil more symmetrical! : D

Here: http://puu.sh/13kOi
Patcheresu
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Patcheresu
Easy-Rooftop Breeze. This was insultingly easy. It felt like I was being mocked for daring to mod easy mode. But after the beginning, it showed super promise. I never even realized it was in 1/1 time. It just flowed naturally.

00:10:943 (1) - 00:32:271 (4) - This part was really boring. This is the insult I mentioned. I liked the pattern. Try throwing some spinners up in there or see what else you can try. Not much else you can do with that in 1/1 time. And this was the first map I've seen with KIAI TIME. It was cool. Nice implementation, really cut away from the repetition this song can have. This difficulty is stellar. Nothing else I can remember having a problem with.

Normal-Rooftop Jog.

Excellent. Just excellent. It was pretty fun too! :D Fix the difficulty, it says it is an Expert level map. Or bring it round' town to the bugfixes and ask/beg for an answer on why it is doing this.
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
Hm... I managed to edit the first part (8 measures) of the Easy but don't find a good substitute for the second part (next 8 measures). Also edited a few to Normal, which should reduce AIMod's complaints but apparently still keeping it at 4.01 stars. Meh whatever. That's still Normal.
Patcheresu
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Patcheresu
Rooftop Jog:

00:50:934 (1,2,3,4) - Consistency plz. The first two clap, the others don't. The ones before this follow a pattern and the ones after this follow a pattern, but this one set of four notes sticks out.

Side note: I don't understand the lack of a video, and your color choice is an interesting one. You could find the exact length of your song and just speed up a video of Rooftop Run to reach the right length.

Very professional, lots of effort. The fading out at the end was unnecessary. It has a nice oomph that clashes against a fading out song if you leave it be.
qwertykool
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qwertykool
I would like to respectfully disagree with your video idea, Patch. a.) a sped up video would look very unnatural; b.) Even if it was a fade in/out for the important parts of the stage, it would be almost be an irritatingly distracting video because of the speed of Sonic Unleashed. (A video's purpose is to add an extra to the map, not to be a magnet for no video.) Nonetheless, it's up to iak, but I just wanted to express my disagreement. : D

Note for iak: I might end up modding the map again soon, as enough time (imo) has passed for me to mod again for it. :3
Patcheresu
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Patcheresu
I know, but the still of Sonic just floating seems very unattractive to me. It is likely iak won't do it anyway, which is why it is a side note. He said he had personal reasons to use a sort of minimalist style without videos on his mod queue. My map isn't complete without my video but he helped. I at least know how well Grid Snap works now, all thanks to him.

Now I play the waiting game. Seriously, this map seems almost finished product in quality, but the color choice makes me question it. It works, awesomely at that, but why? I chose those colors because they compliment the color of the Half-Life logo. That's just my personal opinion, and I will respect yours higher, for being with iak for much longer than I have. Nevertheless, I will continue to try and mod this map, for free and any kudosu I get from here are probably going to this. It is a goal of mine to put this higher. Much, much higher. Maybe, if we work hard enough, it may even appear on the first page in the forum. *checks front page*

...Make that a dream of mine because it ain't happening any time soon TT_TT

I like this picture:

chaotic_iak
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Hm... My reason of not using video is that it feels bad in this song. I'd put one if the song needs some video (like, it's a music that I know to have a music video that is simply very cool that it cannot be left out, or something like that). Unfortunately, this is not the case.

Rooftop Jog clap inconsistency: Oh yeah I forgot. But the claps aren't put as what you think they would be...
Fading out at the end: It feels weird not to fade it. Although if more people apparently prefer no fade, then I'll go for it.

What colors? Combo colors? The four colors most resemble the buildings' colors in my opinion :P

Your image is pretty great; I'll use it. I'm curious about the source though; for whatever reason I suspect Sonic Generations or Mario and Sonic at the London Olympic Games (okay the latter is pretty much impossible because there's no Mario, but still, it's London). Where did you get the image?

Also yay spammed my kudosus on this :P
Patcheresu
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Patcheresu

chaotic_iak wrote:

Hm... My reason of not using video is that it feels bad in this song. I'd put one if the song needs some video (like, it's a music that I know to have a music video that is simply very cool that it cannot be left out, or something like that). Unfortunately, this is not the case.

Rooftop Jog clap inconsistency: Oh yeah I forgot. But the claps aren't put as what you think they would be...
Fading out at the end: It feels weird not to fade it. Although if more people apparently prefer no fade, then I'll go for it.

What colors? Combo colors? The four colors most resemble the buildings' colors in my opinion :P

Your image is pretty great; I'll use it. I'm curious about the source though; for whatever reason I suspect Sonic Generations or Mario and Sonic at the London Olympic Games (okay the latter is pretty much impossible because there's no Mario, but still, it's London). Where did you get the image?

Also yay spammed my kudosus on this :P
Spagonia=Italy So its not the Olympics.

I got it from tumbler. http://tjevo9-sonicthehedgehog.tumblr.com/ I was searching for rooftop run in Google Images and this popped up.

Really, I thought it was supposed to represent Italy's themes as the colors feel light and the green reminds me of olive green, not trees.
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Well, I'm glad it's resolved :D

Patch, any modding on mine?
chaotic_iak
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chaotic_iak
Why there is something like Big Ben there -_- (Or I fail at knowing landmarks miserably)

Err... Okay. Any idea on more "proper" combo colors?

Also since Patch starts from low-diff maps, I guess he's not ready for insane maps yet.
qwertykool
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qwertykool
Good point xD
Patcheresu
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Patcheresu

qwertykool wrote:

Well, I'm glad it's resolved :D

Patch, any modding on mine?
Here I go!

chaotic_iak wrote:

Why there is something like Big Ben there -_- (Or I fail at knowing landmarks miserably)

Err... Okay. Any idea on more "proper" combo colors?

Also since Patch starts from low-diff maps, I guess he's not ready for insane maps yet.
Yes, this is true, by body isn't ready for anything higher than Normal and I continue to fail that at times. Big Ben isn't the only clock tower in the world.

Nevertheless, cue up Running Hell, I've got an Insane to mod.

QWERTYUIOPAINBUBGAIBGUBG:OBGBG:B:BG
00:29:605 (1,1) - Why are these different combos? Like all the sets before them, each combo clued in that you were changing up the rhythm you have to click to. But these are the same, yet each is a single note combo. Not just any single note combo duo but one that directly proceeds a spinner.

00:59:265 (3,3) - Odd Obscurity Overlap Observation. Ditching that silly sentence, your snap situation and directional distance is fascinatingly fabulous. However, expecting people to be able to correct their mouse placement and keep the rhythm in 1/8 isn't cool at all. Maybe its because I don't understand Insane maps but oh well.

01:12:263 (1) - After this spinner parts of your map begin to resemble earlier parts of it.

01:32:925 (9,10) - Pardon my language, but you clever little asshole. After a full map of amazing spacing, you pull that. And the thing is, it's perfectly acceptable because this is Insane.


01:45:422 (1,2,3,4) - Nice style, acceptable spacing. It just irks me how it immediately bumps ahead about a half of a circle but has the same rhythm. You have a very precise graph, you can slide them (them being 3 4 and 5) closer a little.

02:42:598 (9,10,11,12,1) - SANIC HEGEHOG II: RETURN OF THE DEATHSTREAM. That is to say, this is the second time in the map you pulled that crap. Not an ask for it to be removed, just a warning how evil it is.

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EDIT: Turns out its based on all of Western Europe, so the clock tower may be Big Ben. But the buildings seem reminiscent of Italy. Could be Spain or France for all I know. But both of those countries got steam rolled by Italy in the time of Rome and this is not the time for Latin or History. Point is, you're right I'm wrong, let's talk about modding! :)
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Wait, what map is that? xD Imma'ssume it's mine! :3
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Thanks, Patch. It's evil because I love you.
http://puu.sh/15JV4
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Updated.

qwertykool (and Patcheresu too probably, and more people that have downloaded this map and have played it) should be aware of the background change...
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Merci, monsieur! If I had more stars I'd put 'em here. D:
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Oh hey do you get the images? Do I need to do a full submission istead of standard submission when changing background image? ...oops.
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Yeah, full submission. Other wise it has no official preview on the site! :3
okamiratsu
714 posts
Joined August 2011
okamiratsu
I love this song are you looking for a taiko diff because i can do one if you want
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Okay, but I can't do Taiko so you might need to wait for mods to improve it.
P o M u T a
2,284 posts
Joined December 2010
P o M u T a
Great map :D but, i haven't star ._.
Kin
Beatmap Nominator
2,629 posts
Joined August 2010
Kin
Hi ~
Sorry for late mod .__.
Here some suggest

Easy :

01:20:261 (5,2) - overlap : http://puu.sh/1blPn
02:09:583 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - there is too many circle here, it's easier if you make something like this : http://puu.sh/1blTz
02:42:909 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - too many circle here, add some slider

Normal :

00:24:273 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm0n
480,192,15608,2,0,B|480:272|464:368,1,96,8|0
00:29:605 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm25
32,192,20941,2,0,B|32:272|48:368,1,96,8|0
01:17:595 (1,2,3) - I think beatsnap 1/2 is too hard for normal diff (for 180 BPM)
01:22:927 (1,2,3) - ^
01:28:259 (1,2,3) - ^
01:33:591 (1,2,3) - ^
01:42:922 (3,4,5) - ^

Hard :

00:13:109 - maybe add one slider : http://puu.sh/1bm98
00:18:441 - ^
00:21:607 (1,4) - It's good looking but I don't think overlap like this is really good
00:26:939 (1,4) - ^
00:24:773 (7,1) - overlap
nothing here ? 01:20:927 -
02:00:252 (1,4) - this overlap is not really good looking
02:05:584 (1,4) - ^

Insane :

00:44:102 (3,1) - overlap

Good luck with ranking ~
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Meh not noticed mod

Kin wrote:

Hi ~
Sorry for late mod .__. Sorry for not noticing mod too ._.
Here some suggest

Easy :

01:20:261 (5,2) - overlap : http://puu.sh/1blPn Not too overlap; I don't think Easy players will have any problem here.
02:09:583 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - there is too many circle here, it's easier if you make something like this : http://puu.sh/1blTz Changed
02:42:909 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - too many circle here, add some slider Changed

Normal :

00:24:273 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm0n Changed? Seems like no change but whatever.
480,192,15608,2,0,B|480:272|464:368,1,96,8|0
00:29:605 (1) - try this ? http://puu.sh/1bm25 ^
32,192,20941,2,0,B|32:272|48:368,1,96,8|0
01:17:595 (1,2,3) - I think beatsnap 1/2 is too hard for normal diff (for 180 BPM) Changed
01:22:927 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:28:259 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:33:591 (1,2,3) - ^ ^
01:42:922 (3,4,5) - ^ Not changed because Normal should learn something like that too

Hard :

00:13:109 - maybe add one slider : http://puu.sh/1bm98 I intend to follow the guitar
00:18:441 - ^ ^
00:21:607 (1,4) - It's good looking but I don't think overlap like this is really good Changed
00:26:939 (1,4) - ^ Changed
00:24:773 (7,1) - overlap Changed
nothing here ? 01:20:927 - Added something
02:00:252 (1,4) - this overlap is not really good looking Changed
02:05:584 (1,4) - ^ Changed

Insane :

00:44:102 (3,1) - overlap Intended

Good luck with ranking ~ Thanks :)
okamiratsu
714 posts
Joined August 2011
okamiratsu
Scratch the 2 day wait and sorry for the delay
osu file format v10

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chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Included. But now as the rule of "no Taiko diff at all or at least two" has been applied, I need to make a Taiko diff. But I'm not good at it. Meh. Gotta make something that I can play.
Yu-Izanagi-12
314 posts
Joined March 2012
Yu-Izanagi-12
I love this sonic track great job
I found some combo burst you may like http://www.mediafire.com/?bs9ywn2ncvniqgs
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
iak, why do you have the "no taiko or two" rule? It really limits the map, if you can't map taiko, don't map it. :/
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
See rules in wiki. In Mapset section or something.
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Wow I'm late reacting to this, xD but you are really careful with the rules. (Nothing wrong) The thing is, there are many maps with only one taiko or ctb map, and they're ranked. The map's just getting a lot of diffs, and that's great, but you probably don't want to add any more. Also, I can try to mod your taiko, or I can take it over if you don't want to have to maintain it. All of our diffs can definitely be improved. I really like how this map is headed, but make sure to watch the map amount. : D
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
It was a recent rule.

Hm if you can make a Taiko diff easier than the one here (as in I should be able to pass the Taiko diff :P ), you can put it here.
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Mmk, I can def. try. : D
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Little harder than I wanted, but I think it turned out pretty cool.

http://puu.sh/1mtzF

Star for map?
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Updated.

I don't quite understand what "star for map?" means :P
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
kudosu silly : D
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
You're the best :3
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
Updates for both of my maps, timing changes and sound changes.
http://puu.sh/1t793 -taiko! (PS You'll have to delete the old Taiko map, because this one has a name change.
http://puu.sh/1t790 -osu!

IMPORTANT ITTY BITTY MOD - READ FIRST
Copy and paste my timing points to your maps. I was doing my taiko and realized it was really of in the second half of the song. I copied my timing points from my osu map and readjusted the points to the correct timing, it sounded perfect. I would highly recommend this. If you want to talk about it, discuss it with me over PM. Also, if you don't believe me, play the older version of my map and the newer version of the map (taiko) and notice the difference.
P o M u T a
2,284 posts
Joined December 2010
P o M u T a
fmm,
Roof Breaker mod(Lunatic) mod.

OD9 orz.. i don't like... →8 or 7 better. because , stream many.
・fmm, Lunatic → Extra ? :o Luntatic is Tohou (東方)
・00:12:442 (4) - repeat arrows on sliders must be visible.
・00:17:775 (4) - ^
・00:21:940 (1) - ^
・00:53:600 (1) - Add finish slider head.
・00:58:932 (1) - many repeat. The people may not predict this. As suggestion, employ some 1/2slider.
・01:00:932 (4) - You try it.http://puu.sh/1yAl1 (3) is repeat 1. Add note x:256 Y:32 01:00:932. Looks very good. because,next note　Good contrast.
・01:22:427 (13) - 01:22:594(14) stack please. good flow. (x:256 Y:304)
・01:33:924 (1) - Add 1/2 repeat slider , very sound nice. example http://puu.sh/1yAsi
・01:38:590 (12) - Add NC
・01:44:255 (1) - Add finish.

Worth a star.

good luck ;3
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak

P o M u T a wrote:

fmm,
Roof Breaker mod(Lunatic) mod.

OD9 orz.. i don't like... →8 or 7 better. because , stream many. Changed. I wanted to keep this 5.00 stars, but apparently OD 7 still gives 5.00 stars.
・fmm, Lunatic → Extra ? :o Luntatic is Tohou (東方) Changed.
・00:12:442 (4) - repeat arrows on sliders must be visible. Changed.
・00:17:775 (4) - ^ Changed.
・00:21:940 (1) - ^ I don't think it's invisible (it's not covered by 8's hitburst, and I think it's enough time to notice.
・00:53:600 (1) - Add finish slider head. Changed.
・00:58:932 (1) - many repeat. The people may not predict this. As suggestion, employ some 1/2slider. Changed, although probably not what you expect. (After all it's a 1/2 slider.)
・01:00:932 (4) - You try it.http://puu.sh/1yAl1 (3) is repeat 1. Add note x:256 Y:32 01:00:932. Looks very good. because,next note　Good contrast. Changed.
・01:22:427 (13) - 01:22:594(14) stack please. good flow. (x:256 Y:304) Changed, but probably not what you expect because I also change the next one.
・01:33:924 (1) - Add 1/2 repeat slider , very sound nice. example http://puu.sh/1yAsi Added.
・01:38:590 (12) - Add NC Changed.
・01:44:255 (1) - Add finish. Changed.

Worth a star. Thanks!

good luck ;3
Updated.
FerreTrip
81 posts
Joined August 2008
FerreTrip
This ain't a bad map, but it still needs some work. I found myself getting thrown off when you almost randomly switch which voice you want the player to follow. Pick a voice (violins, guitar, etc.) for a phrase or two, don't just suddenly switch partway through. That's disorienting.

Also, I'm a n00b, but it almost feels like Insane's punishment for missing a marker is too severe.
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak

FerreTrip wrote:

This ain't a bad map, but it still needs some work. I found myself getting thrown off when you almost randomly switch which voice you want the player to follow. Pick a voice (violins, guitar, etc.) for a phrase or two, don't just suddenly switch partway through. That's disorienting.
Can you tell me which difficulties have this issue? My first ever beatmap which was made in my old style, so it might be because of my inexperience.

FerreTrip wrote:

Also, I'm a n00b, but it almost feels like Insane's punishment for missing a marker is too severe.
HD 8, OD 7. I don't think it's too severe for Insane, where the beats are not actually Insane anyway (more like Hard+?). If you mean Roof Breaker (Extra), it's also obvious because it's Extra. If you mean Rooftop Hustle, ask qwertykool.

Thanks for your opinion!
qwertykool
146 posts
Joined April 2010
qwertykool
This map's gettin lots of mods, iak! :D
Hopefully more will come though, since it's been a while. :c
Omk294
4 posts
Joined April 2011
Omk294
Don't know why this never became a ranked map packs,
Most mode are really good, Can't say for the taiko's because I don't play it.
Honestly the only issue I have is that, I think, the breaks in the 4 1/2 star map come too regularly but I love this pack over all.
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
Topic Starter
chaotic_iak
Heh, it has been such a long time since I touched this beatmap again :P Besides, there are too few mods coming. When I'm quite free I'll try rechecking and updating the map again!
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