23:10 frukoyurdakul: hi
23:10 frukoyurdakul: are u available rn?
23:11 Jason X: kinda, just need to check 3-4 points on my map wich will take maybe 5mins
23:12 frukoyurdakul: ok i can wait :')
23:28 Jason X: done, now i'm aviable
23:28 frukoyurdakul: okay
23:28 *frukoyurdakul is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1130079 Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God]
23:28 frukoyurdakul: which diffs will you mod?
23:29 Jason X: the easy ones i guess
23:29 frukoyurdakul: okay, let's start with kantan then
23:29 Jason X: don't even know the last time i modded taiko
23:30 frukoyurdakul: a little rusty then eh? :')
23:30 frukoyurdakul: dw modding kantan is easy i believe (i can't do it so i can say that lol)
23:33 Jason X: sv: 1,40 i think all diffs need to have 1,40 exept they are pretty slow bpm
23:33 frukoyurdakul: well
23:33 Jason X: still easy enough on the last kiai with the sv change
23:33 frukoyurdakul: most of the mappers prefer 1.20 on kantan and futsuu
23:34 frukoyurdakul: wait last kiai has a sv change?
23:34 frukoyurdakul: ok deleted
23:34 Jason X: y
23:34 frukoyurdakul: the whole map has it lol
23:34 Jason X: lol
23:35 frukoyurdakul: deleted all, except 0.99 and 1.01
23:35 Jason X: ok, begining note suggestions here i like the 0,99 and 1,01 sv :3
23:35 frukoyurdakul: lol
23:36 frukoyurdakul: they are intentional
23:36 Jason X: 01:06:887 - d kiai time makes bonus points, and there is enough room between these notes 01:05:945 (71,72) -
23:36 frukoyurdakul: it equals the speeds of notes
23:37 frukoyurdakul: ok added
23:37 Jason X: i accidently deleted the blue behind, lol
23:38 Jason X: 01:18:184 - k
23:38 Jason X: enough room and not verry hard with the finisher behind
23:38 frukoyurdakul: hmm
23:38 frukoyurdakul: that's good to
23:38 frukoyurdakul: too0
23:38 frukoyurdakul: too*
23:40 Jason X: 01:28:226 - k 01:34:502 - d thats kinda the same you made here 01:38:268 (118,119) - 01:40:778 (122,123) -
23:41 frukoyurdakul: fair enough
23:43 Jason X: 01:52:075 - kiai time makes bonus points,... no, i'm not going to repeat that, lol also enough room
23:43 Jason X: ( d )
23:44 frukoyurdakul: done
23:44 Jason X: btw, you did the same here 02:02:117 (156,157) -
23:44 Jason X: xD
23:44 frukoyurdakul: lol
23:44 frukoyurdakul: i probably wanted to create some difference between those two kiai times
23:45 Jason X: difference is good on higher diffs, but beginners have it hard enough to pass a song i guess
23:46 frukoyurdakul: so you mean i should nerf these diffs more?
23:46 Jason X: just stay consistent (<- may not an english word, not sure tbh) on the lower diffs
23:46 Jason X: nooooo
23:46 frukoyurdakul: ooh ok
23:46 frukoyurdakul: yea i tried to but
23:46 frukoyurdakul: there are literally a few notes, which are hard to keep various
23:47 frukoyurdakul: i mean, i tried to map some part differently intentionally, because the players will get bored if they'll play the same notes, same patterns over and over again
23:47 Jason X: i often use k d in alternate in the kiais, so first kiai starts with d and the other one with k (thats often in tnt) but note that some bg sounds can not changed with a note
23:48 frukoyurdakul: it's like that in this song, the kiai parts are exactly the same in music
23:48 Jason X: i never got bored as beginner, my issue was more that i didn't pass anything because it changed (Ono's diffs)
23:48 Jason X: not for long now >:3
23:49 frukoyurdakul: hmm
23:49 frukoyurdakul: seems reasonable
23:49 frukoyurdakul: ok i try to make the diffs more consistent
23:49 frukoyurdakul: any other suggestions on kantan?
23:51 Jason X: to make it more various (just a suggestion) you could do: 01:57:410 (149) - k 01:58:351 (150,151,152) - d d d 01:59:920 (153,154,155) - k d K 02:02:117 (156,157) - k d 02:03:686 (158,159) - K D
23:52 frukoyurdakul: um
23:52 frukoyurdakul: these don't fit
23:53 frukoyurdakul: k d K is okay
23:53 Jason X: it's just a suggestion to make it more various, it may not fit to the sound
23:53 frukoyurdakul: but the others don't fit imo
23:54 Jason X: the fit also depends on the skin (hitsounds) a user uses for me: no hitsounds while playing and default while mapping
23:54 frukoyurdakul: i believe it's the player's problem
23:54 frukoyurdakul: because im not using custom hitsounds on this mapset
23:54 frukoyurdakul: idk if players use or not
23:56 Jason X: need to help my mate quick, brb
23:56 frukoyurdakul: okay
00:04 Jason X: and i'm back
00:07 frukoyurdakul: welcome :')
00:07 frukoyurdakul: 1.8* kantan
00:08 Jason X: 03:33:442 (283,284) - d d?
00:08 frukoyurdakul: hmm
00:08 Jason X: last time i tried to lower my sr i deleted notes and the sr goes up ._.
00:09 frukoyurdakul: instead
00:09 frukoyurdakul: how about adding a 03:32:187 - k here?
00:09 frukoyurdakul: and
00:09 frukoyurdakul: 03:32:814 (282,284) -
00:09 frukoyurdakul: make those two to d?
00:09 frukoyurdakul: would be too hard?
00:11 Jason X: sounds good too, but i'm afraid of giving the player no real chance to rest cause it goes like every secend 1/1 tick since 03:26:538 -
00:11 Jason X: it's not many, but for kantan
00:12 frukoyurdakul: yeah, seems reasonable
00:12 frukoyurdakul: 03:32:814 (282,284) - d d?
00:12 Jason X: 03:28:421 - may delete this one?
00:12 Jason X: the d d (03:32:814 (281,283) - ) is good
00:12 frukoyurdakul: that part is the solo part, it should be harder compared to other parts
00:12 frukoyurdakul: and it's not much for kantan imo
00:14 Jason X: if you think so, ok
00:14 Jason X: 03:40:032 - k
00:14 Jason X: or d
00:15 Jason X: 03:50:074 - add note k/d
00:15 frukoyurdakul: d would be better
00:15 frukoyurdakul: and k for the second one
00:16 Jason X: 03:52:584 - then d for this one i guess?
00:16 frukoyurdakul: yeap
00:16 Jason X: 03:53:839 - and k again
00:16 frukoyurdakul: i added notes and star rate just fell down lol
00:17 Jason X: like i sayed, i removed notes to lower sr and the sr goes up
00:17 Jason X: taiko sr is just weird on low diffs xD
00:17 frukoyurdakul: lol
00:18 Jason X: thats all for kantan
00:19 frukoyurdakul: good, when you check futsuu?
00:19 Jason X: now?
00:19 Jason X: one started workingin the editor only getting tired can stop me
00:19 Jason X: once*
00:19 frukoyurdakul: go ahead then
00:21 Jason X: 00:23:268 - i would keep it ddd for the beginning to save the players stamina for the later parts
00:22 frukoyurdakul: but the k sound is representing the high-pitch guitar sound + snare sound
00:24 Jason X: 00:32:211 (77) - move this one to 00:32:368 - doubles also in 1/2 increases the sr, also theres a "clap" sound
00:24 Jason X: general, all mods are suggestions and not advices, so you don't need to agree with my points
00:24 frukoyurdakul: this is good
00:26 Jason X: btw, do you changed sv here too? (last kiai time) shouldn't be that big problem for futsuu
00:26 frukoyurdakul: also changed
00:26 frukoyurdakul: removed SV's
00:28 Jason X: 00:37:232 (90) - move this one to 00:37:389 - with the notes behind it's easyier to play and also theres a "clap" sound, you can keep the first double (kk)
00:29 frukoyurdakul: done
00:29 frukoyurdakul: 89 is unchanged tho
00:30 Jason X: wondered why it feels weird in the next moment, noticed you placed them on the red lines, lol
00:31 Jason X: 00:43:038 (107,108) - ctrl + g makes the double easier
00:31 frukoyurdakul: brb in 1 min
00:31 Jason X: ok, i just keep writing
00:31 Jason X: or just go to drink something
00:33 frukoyurdakul: im back
00:35 Jason X: ok
00:35 frukoyurdakul: done the last suggestion
00:37 Jason X: 00:52:452 (131,132) - ctrl + g the k(00:52:452 - ) have the same sound like 00:51:353 (128,129,130) - and the d(00:52:766 - ) uses the same sound like the next note
00:38 frukoyurdakul: hmm
00:38 frukoyurdakul: i need some various patterns tho
00:38 Jason X: somehow i want to put a note right here 00:54:648 - (d)
00:39 Jason X: 00:55:276 (141,143) - ctrl + g k k uses the same sound then
00:39 frukoyurdakul: i kinda followed the vocals here but
00:39 frukoyurdakul: adding d makes sense
00:40 frukoyurdakul: ctrl + g also applied
00:41 Jason X: 00:59:669 - d same sound like the note before and in this little section aren't that many notes, so a double would be easy to play there
00:43 frukoyurdakul: okay
00:43 frukoyurdakul: sounds nice
00:44 Jason X: 01:03:121 (163,164) - D D ? not sure, does it fit?
00:45 frukoyurdakul: K K is better, since i used K K on other diffs too + 01:03:749 (165) - same sounds
00:45 Jason X: 01:10:025 (183,184) - this two should be D D cause they have other sounds in the music than the K's
00:46 Jason X: 01:18:184 - d theres is a sound, i'm to lazy to explain /me runs
00:47 frukoyurdakul: not really
00:47 frukoyurdakul: K K is better
00:47 frukoyurdakul: adding d is applide
00:47 frukoyurdakul: applied*
00:48 Jason X: 01:29:795 - d fits better with the doubles before and the sound is there
00:48 frukoyurdakul: 3 doublets in a row is far too much i think
00:49 Jason X: not really
00:49 frukoyurdakul: well
00:49 frukoyurdakul: 01:29:952 (238) -
00:49 frukoyurdakul: i added d but changed this to k
00:49 Jason X: the notes before arent that hard and there is space to relax after that
00:49 Jason X: ok
00:54 Jason X: 01:37:012 (8) - move to 01:37:169 - 01:37:640 (9) - move to 01:37:326 - makes the ddk dk more easier and sounds better in my opinion
00:55 frukoyurdakul: well
00:55 frukoyurdakul: it doesn't support vocals like this way
00:56 Jason X: 01:40:150 (17) - move to 01:39:837 - the sound fits more for a note than 01:40:150 - and it's similar to this 01:36:385 (5,6,7,8,9) - , the k d D is easier and it should support the voice
00:57 frukoyurdakul: fair enough
01:00 Jason X: 02:02:745 - k 02:03:372 - d compares to the sound i guess and 1/1 isn't that hard for futsuu
01:01 Jason X: i'm wondering how the Futsuu is still 2,57* on my side
01:01 frukoyurdakul: done
01:04 Jason X: 03:14:143 (1) - is the spinner meant to be that short?
01:05 frukoyurdakul: well, i thought it creates a 4-5 note spinner
01:05 frukoyurdakul: but it creates 2, so i increased the length
01:07 Jason X: 03:16:496 - 03:36:266 - somehow this part feels harder than the kiais xD
01:07 frukoyurdakul: again, that part is the guitar solo
01:08 Jason X: i know
01:08 frukoyurdakul: it's intentional
01:08 Jason X: i guess thats the part i missed hard in the Inner
01:09 frukoyurdakul: possibly, due to the doublets
01:09 Jason X: 03:24:655 - d can be added here, but i guess giving the player a little break is the better option
01:10 frukoyurdakul: yeah
01:10 Jason X: and yeah, possibly on the doublets
01:10 frukoyurdakul: the rest of is hard enough
01:13 Jason X: 03:30:539 (26) - doesn't this one makes more sence here 03:30:775 - ?
01:13 frukoyurdakul: well
01:13 frukoyurdakul: you can hear the guitar pitch change here
01:14 Jason X: y
01:15 Jason X: the general sound is the gituar in this part i think
01:15 frukoyurdakul: yeah
01:15 frukoyurdakul: as in all the other diffs
01:15 frukoyurdakul: except muzu cuz it's a GD :')
01:19 Jason X: 03:51:329 - d ? 03:53:212 - 03:53:839 - k? i hear sounds i i want to put notes there, lol
01:19 frukoyurdakul: since it's the last kiai
01:19 frukoyurdakul: i think i can add them yeah
01:20 Jason X: was about to write that too, lol
http://puu.sh/uNLj4/195c23d49c.png01:20 frukoyurdakul: lol
01:21 Jason X: rest is fine
01:21 frukoyurdakul: thanks so much for your help on these diffs
01:21 Jason X: np
01:21 frukoyurdakul: save log, and post it this irc mod so i can give you kudos
01:22 frukoyurdakul: u deserved it :')
01:22 Jason X: k