1. Futsuu (2.23 stars, 376 notes)
2. Inner Oni (4.55 stars, 1099 notes)
3. Kantan (1.48 stars, 268 notes)
4. Muzukashii (2.9 stars, 602 notes)
5. Oni (3.59 stars, 825 notes)

DarkVortex wrote:

Heyho here's my part of the M4M.

I was always hitting a little early, maybe set the offset to 54. Nice. Timing feels better now.

[Kantan]
Really nice diff, nothing to say here

[Futsuu]
01:00:057 - d for the drum why not, added.
02:28:332 - ^ ^

[Muzukashii]
01:39:194 - add d Quite jinx the flow, as adding d makes the pattern too continuous.
03:07:470 - ^ ^
02:24:539 (3,4,5,6) - d kkd fits better here imo focusing on drums instead and not on melody. Also want to be consistent with 00:56:263 (3,4,5)
You could increase density during the buildup by adding a d at 02:29:712 - and 02:31:091 - Noted those time-points. Might need to increase the note density in this diff overall.
03:29:022 (6) - ddd here instead? changed to dkd instead.
03:40:057 (6) - ^ no change for this one. Want to keep as dkd

[Oni]
Nothing to say.

[Inner Oni]
01:15:488 - add d don't want to bring 7-plet pattern this early + want to diversity the pattern structure.
01:15:746 (9,10,11,12,13) - how about dkd ddk to follow both the cymbal and the drums? going for ddk ddk instead for smoother flow.
01:16:867 - add d Same reason as above.
01:27:212 - ^ added
02:29:712 (5) - d fits the violin better k does sound intrusive so changed to d
02:43:763 - add d Not in this part
02:45:143 - ^ ^
02:55:488 - ^ added
03:29:539 - ^ Similar reason to muzukashii, I did not put a note here so that it emphasizes more on the previous and next pattern.
03:40:574 - ^ ^

Very nice maps, pretty close to rank I think. Good luck!

[R] wrote:

[Futsuu]
00:59:019 - add note ? want to conserve the note density here, so no change.

01:06:605 - move red tick forward, better pitch I am confused what you are suggesting here. Move this note to 01:06:778? If that's so, the rhythm is too complex for the beginners and I want to keep it simple by mapping those drums.
01:08:502 - instead adding note here, guess you can move 01:07:812 - so the biola sound more clear Adding a note here means I need to add other notes in the similar area to achieve consistency. So no change.
01:10:226 - add note No for the same reason. (Also makes the diff too hard)

02:12:122 - add note Want to be consistent with 02:00:743.

[Muzukashii]
02:11:088 - add note Sure. Added a note at 02:00:054 for consistency.
02:56:778 - add d this becomes a two consecutive 1/2 4-plets, which is too hard for this diff.
03:02:295 - add d no for the same reason
03:28:847 - can add k ,make not boring added, so less boring now.
03:39:881 - ^ ^

03:41:950 - feels weird if empty here, try adding d It does feel empty here, but it makes this diff different (note density) than others. So no change for now until I gather more mods.
03:47:467 - ^ ^

[Oni]
01:03:329 - delete this changed to k actually
01:12:726 - maybe triplet more reasonable in 01:13:071 - Silly me for putting a triplet there. Fixed.
01:14:278 - add k ? no emphasis to put a note here
01:27:467 - change to k oki
01:54:536 - add k , sound still continous focusing on the violin(?) instead
02:00:054 - ^ ^
02:05:571 - ^ ^
02:11:088 - ^ ^

Good Luck

• Muzukashii

  testplay feels like futsuu with ddk kkd etc. ... please make it a little bit harder, try to add more notes on the background drums of the song
  
  

  Oni

  00:54:795 - add d { background sound is a little stream
  01:05:829 - add d { same reason
  01:10:571 - add k { the same sound like 01:11:433 (15) -
  01:16:088 - 01:16:174 - add d { for a ddk stream (background sound)
  
  01:21:605 - add d {drum in the background
  01:26:519 - add d, if you want (just for a 2nd stream to make it more looks like Oni)
  01:27:122 - 01:27:209 - add d { for a ddk stream (background sound)
  01:39:191 - add d { background sound
  
  01:50:226 - add d { background sound
  02:23:071 - add d { for a ddk stream (background sound)
  02:34:105 - add d { same reason (t
  02:38:847 - add k {some easy notes in the kiai
  
  02:43:588 (4,5) - move to 02:43:674 (4,5) - { stream sound is here
  02:44:364 - 02:44:450 - add d { background sound is a little stream
  02:45:743 - add d { in the background is a drum sound
  02:49:881 - add d { same reason
  
  02:55:398 - 02:55:485 - add d { background sound is a little stream
  03:07:467 - add d { in the background is a drum sound
  03:18:502 - add d { same reason
  
  03:28:502 - add d { stream sound, but an easier part at the end is fine i think
  03:39:536 - add d { same reason
  
  

  Inner

  idk why, but this note 02:17:812 (8) - fells better to play here 02:17:726 -

Jason X wrote:

Hi o/ from Queue

• Muzukashii

  testplay feels like futsuu with ddk kkd etc. ... please make it a little bit harder, try to add more notes on the background drums of the song Yeah. The note density between futsuu and muzu is somewhat similar. Will make it a bit harder.
  
  

  Oni

  00:54:795 - add d { background sound is a little stream Don't want to bring a 1/4 triplet in that section, as it resembles too much of inner oni diff. Also, the changing svs make the triplet too hard for this diff.
  01:05:829 - add d { same reason ^
  01:10:571 - add k { the same sound like 01:11:433 (15) - added d actually
  01:16:088 - 01:16:174 - add d { for a ddk stream (background sound) going for the distinct melody instead, so no change.
  
  01:21:605 - add d {drum in the background sure, added
  01:26:519 - add d, if you want (just for a 2nd stream to make it more looks like Oni) want to keep this oni relatively easy so no change.
  01:27:122 - 01:27:209 - add d { for a ddk stream (background sound) Makes the pattern too long
  01:39:191 - add d { background sound same reason as above. Plus, it makes the flow too continuous, which I do not want.
  
  01:50:226 - add d { background sound ^
  02:23:071 - add d { for a ddk stream (background sound) ^
  02:34:105 - add d { same reason (t ^
  02:38:847 - add k {some easy notes in the kiai added d instead
  
  02:43:588 (4,5) - move to 02:43:674 (4,5) - { stream sound is here I see your point, but I would prefer some diversity on patterns. Constantly mapping those bass drums can result in some repetitiveness. (Also, the bass drums aren't the focus of this diff)
  02:44:364 - 02:44:450 - add d { background sound is a little stream again, going for the distinct melody.
  02:45:743 - add d { in the background is a drum sound long pattern
  02:49:881 - add d { same reason added
  
  02:55:398 - 02:55:485 - add d { background sound is a little stream ^
  
  03:07:467 - add d { in the background is a drum sound ^
  
  03:18:502 - add d { same reason ^
  
  03:28:502 - add d { stream sound, but an easier part at the end is fine i think The distinct 1/1 pattern captures the music better, as it emphasizes the violin (?) melody.
  03:39:536 - add d { same reason ^
  
  

  Inner

  idk why, but this note 02:17:812 (8) - fells better to play here 02:17:726 -I find it really awkward, due to being an irregular beat snap.

nice song, good luck

Acrith wrote:

First of all - I totally love... or not, not that. I really like Feint in overall, and this song. Glad you like the song~ Played Inner Oni - pretty good work for me there, seems a liittle too easy - but rhythm is good, and for first try without edit mode nothing was bad. Let's try checking them in editor.

[Inner Oni]

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00:22:122 (1) - Shouldn't THIS be as red line? I was taught that first note is always on red line. Wish I could but whenever I put a red line here, this problem occurs and I have no idea how to fix that. Despite that, the current red line is fine.
You tried making those: 00:56:950 (10,11,1,7,8,9,1,12,14,18) - as finishers? The rhythm for start is pretty slow, and keeping the rhythm up there is great! Not for this part. Focusing more on violins/melody instead so finishers are not really needed. Also, putting them makes the pattern a bit cluttered/hideous to play.
For the kiai I have feeling there are too many simple patterns...Well it is dnb so you can't really go complex on patternings, but I tried to diversify the patterns as much as possible while following the song.
01:09:536 (4,5) - Switch to kats why not, switched.
01:10:916 (15,16) - Switch to kats switched 16,17 to k instead
01:14:881 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,1) - This part seems weird for me, like... You ignored one hit rhythm, and the patterns are pretty (again) repeative. Let's do:
01:15:485 - I'd add here kat Don't want to bring 7-plet pattern this early during kiai. , 01:16:174 (14) - switch here to kat want to keep the smooth ddk ddk flow. Switching to k feels abrupt.
01:28:157 (22,1) - Switch colors, rhythm drop there to lower beat, so don should fiit better. 01:28:329 (1) - only changed this note to D. (Also changed 02:56:605 (1) to d for consistency
01:50:226 (25) - Maybe kat? To emphatize next don finisher as lower beat.There's a bass drum here so d fits better.
02:25:226 (10,11,1,7,8,9,1,12,14) - Same situation as on 56:950. Same reason as above
02:37:898 (5) - Don? sounds a bit awkward, considering I don't use kdkkd in any other patterns
02:43:760 - Add don? (Same reason at 01:15:485) Same reason as well
03:27:295 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - In this rhythm instead of having dkdkd -> dkddk -> dkdkd I would lovely see dkdkd -> dkddk -> ddkdk, so the change would be 03:28:847 (15,16,17,18,19) - making this whole don, then 03:29:019 (17,19) - making those kats. ddkdk feels a bit off, considering I always put k on the second note. (See any similar patterns and you can notice it starts either dk or kk. not dd)
03:34:709 (17) - I'd add kat for rhythm K here sounds alright, but I want a smoother flow with dkkdd.
03:38:329 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20) - Those are last patterns, make them harder a bit. Also, you again made the triple drum hit by one kat, so I'd suggest: 03:38:933 - add kat, 03:39:622 - add don, 03:40:312 - add don. The song is calmer here so I want to keep the lower note density.
03:46:260 (11) - I have no real idea why I like kat there instead of don, maybe because of pitch? Since 03:40:743 (1) is a D, also want this note to be a d for consistency.

I guess that's all! Map is pretty. Yes, pretty. I like it. Seriously. Great work out there Thanks for the compliment~

Aloda wrote:

Hello! I'm having a very hard time finding room for improvement in this map, so this is going to be a very short mod

Oni

02:58:674 - Add a d - This feels a little more natural to me, although to be honest, it plays fine without it wut. There's already a d here.

01:30:398 - Add a k ^Sure, added

02:57:295 - Add a d ^Added since I changed some doubles in the kiai.

Inner Oni

02:42:122 (16) - 02:50:398 (17) - 02:58:674 (16) - k -> d This feels a lot more intuitive to me Nah. They sound alright and give more pattern variety for the second kiai.

I found no issues is the other diffs.

Sorry this is such a short mod, but that's just because it's incredibly well mapped already. I hope to see this ranked soon!

Ayyri wrote:

Hello!

M4M for you~

Keep in mind, these are my suggestions, don't change something I mentioned unless it seems good to you!

Kantan

01:31:778 (2) - This note differs from the previous rhythm. Consider moving to 01:32:122 - and ctrl+g so it's not k d 3 times in a row. See the reason below
01:32:467 - Why are you suddenly not following the rhythm here? Also there's a weird break here too.
Consider removing 01:31:778 (2,3) - and adding 01:32:122 - to 01:33:157 - k d k d Kantan is usually mapped with independent patterns, so these 2/1 notes are usually alright. Plus, the use of 3/1 spacing here isn't as emphasized as the pattern seen here 01:25:571, and I want to avoid using them since they are not kantan friendly. Also, k d k d is the longest pattern throughout the map, which I means I need to add more notes on the other part to achieve consistency, which increases the difficulty a lot. So I don't want to do that.
01:37:295 (2) - Remove. Why? 2/1 note, but still adequately follows the music.
01:42:812 (2) - Remove. Again, why?
01:43:847 - Add d. Want to keep a 4/1 break here, so no change.
01:44:191 - Add k. No for the same reason
02:39:019 - Add d. 4/1 break.
02:39:364 - Add d. ^
02:50:398 - Add k. Last 4/1 break.
03:06:950 (5) - Move to 03:07:295 - Focusing more on the violin instead, which adds pattern variety.
03:12:467 - Add d. 3/1 break. Kantan players need some break.
03:50:743 - Add d.Not a bad idea, but I want this section to be consistent with only 4/1 notes.

Futsuu

01:11:433 - Add d. Need a 3/1 break, so no change.
02:39:709 - Add k. ^
03:06:260 (4) - Change to d. Sounds better. Changed.
03:28:329 (3,4) - ctrl+g Yup.

Muzukashii

00:49:019 (5) - Change to k. Since there are enough notes for this diff (futsuu and kantan needed some K to avoid repetitiveness), I want the bass drums(?) to be consistent with D.
01:41:433 - Add d. obligatory 2/1 break
03:32:812 - Add k. Want to be consistent with 03:21:778.

Q____X wrote:

Hi

-Turn off Widescreen Support on Kantan, Futsuu and Muzukashii Didn't expect this to be on so far. Turned off.

Oni

00:56:433 - d 6-plet 1/2 pattern which is long for the build up so nope.
00:56:519 - ^ avoiding 1/4 triplet in the build up.
00:57:295 - ^ The break is alright. Still follows the song.
01:01:950 - ^ Can add this
01:02:036 - ^ No 1/4 in the buildup.
01:02:640 - ^ Makes the pattern too long
02:24:709 - ^ a break servers better
02:24:795 - ^ no 1/4
02:25:571 - ^ not for this part
02:26:950 - ^ Since it is the second part of the song, can add this to increase the note density.
03:42:036 - ^ only using 1/4 for inner oni (and I don't use ddk for this diff)
03:47:640 - ^ ^

Sorry for the short mod
Your map is very good i like it Don't give kudos if this don't help you

Surono wrote:

please stop farming sp, u just need call a staff user/more experience user to check ur map.. rip lol ;w;okey I started like dem, too spooky. " Enjoi teh gaem " ok

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>Inner
00:30:398 (8) - should kat for 00:29:709 - bit similar on high sound, 00:33:157 (13) - this differ with that (8) This note has a lower melody sound than the previous note so d works better. (k feels forced)
00:45:916 (5,6,7,1) - KKdK? no no no. Those D finishers represent the bass drums, and I want to be consistent with them.
00:51:433 (5,6,7,1) - ^ ^
01:03:847 - d why? This note clearly has a higher melody than the previous one. , 01:04:881 (20,21) - kk matching those melodies instead so no kk
02:14:191 - about that 3plet finisher+1 note. please the contrast of color.. Big dons are delicious so no.
02:32:122 - d and next kk, just over with emphasize. dem!1!! I has spoken the explain xd dem melodies has spoken the explain xd
03:45:226 - how this can be kat? don please xd higher melody. pls.
03:46:260 - and this kat oki since you are not the only person to mention this.
03:50:743 - kat wat
okey this really very good, I saw like
base pattern: 1/2 don kat don kat blabla. cus u correct followd the snare and kick
flow pattern: I saw dkk and dkkdd or dkkkd and more.. thats fit with the flow, okey nice!
and Idk, really I did shiitmoodd xd

>Oni
same like Inner for coloring. and for low diff too if u had consistent color every diff changed accordingly
01:01:950 - I think you need put a note for spread bcus inner has 3plet yup. The modder above mentioned it as well.

okey I give up.. just that I have to mention as problem. this really solid mapset xd take my stars.. brah this my map

ZTH wrote:

Will check your barbaric map soon.

Narrow Minds wrote:

Still better late than never.

Muzukashii:
- 00:56:605 (4,5,6) - ddk -> kkd focusing more on drums than melodies (plus changed some patterns in the other diffs to be consistent with this style)
- 01:05:829 - Since you were using triplets here 01:27:812 (8,9,10) - why not add a note here to make a triplet? (Same here: 02:34:019 (5,6) - ) Don't want to use ddk in this diff (too hard). Plus, the sv change makes the pattern look ugly.
- 01:46:605 (8) - k -> d You can clearly hear a snare here
- 02:54:709 (3,5) - Ctrl+G The current pattern seems to follow the music better
- 03:21:778 - You missed an important beat here. Put a K here. Need to give players some 2/1 break, so this is intentional.
- 03:32:812 - ^ ^
- 03:51:088 - I would put a spinner here to finish this song properly. The end doesn't really warrant to put a spinner.

Oni:
- 00:58:329 (2) - k -> d k seems to emphasize the drum (and the melody) better
There is nothing more that would get my attention.

Good luck with your mapset.