1. Inner Oni (5,48 stars, 1898 notes)

OzzyOzrock wrote:

you can't live if your ON FIRE

1. 00:09:545 (2,3,4,5) - k
2. 00:23:787 - kkd?
3. 00:24:242 - kdd?
4. 00:30:757 (131,132) - ctrl g?
5. 00:37:727 (177,185) - dem modding without reason whehe, 00:37:727 (177,185) - is don for this pitch, so 00:38:181 - this kat
6. 00:52:424 (264,265) - try kat, and 00:52:878 - this too?
7. fek yeh scrolling2x2xx2x
8. 03:35:151 - ngenyeaaahhh
9. 04:04:242 - kat pitch, and Don pitch *kkkkkkD*
10. lel forget this ^, maybe 04:04:318 - put note, 04:04:242 - or make kkk form here.
11. 04:05:681 - don
12. 04:06:211 (19,20,21) - kat?
13. 04:17:424 - okay............... :^) dem this. huft 04:20:075 - have rest like song OzziOzrok - blabla
14. okay this, just dem hue mod. dem, waiting player hit 04:17:424 - this... in qualifih. bye.

Surono wrote:

a b

>Besi

1. 00:09:545 (2,3,4,5) - k eh no...they're drum hits
2. 00:23:787 - kkd? honestly I think I'm not gonna accept any suggestions related to these pattersn along all the song unless they sound reaaaally good xD
3. 00:24:242 - kdd? kkd sounds better lol
4. 00:30:757 (131,132) - ctrl g? would cause inconsistency, as I'm normally following k k d d k -> k k d k k -> k k k d k
5. 00:37:727 (177,185) - dem modding without reason whehe, 00:37:727 (177,185) - is don for this pitch, so 00:38:181 - this kat no, in some parts I used k's as support beats, while here I used all d's
6. 00:52:424 (264,265) - try kat, and 00:52:878 - this too? they flow better as d's imo
7. fek yeh scrolling2x2xx2x wat
8. 03:35:151 - ngenyeaaahhh wat^2
9. 04:04:242 - kat pitch, and Don pitch *kkkkkkD* what????
10. lel forget this ^, maybe 04:04:318 - put note, 04:04:242 - or make kkk form here. there is no sound...
11. 04:05:681 - don there is no sound
12. 04:06:211 (19,20,21) - kat? why? XD
13. 04:17:424 - okay............... :^) dem this. huft 04:20:075 - have rest like song OzziOzrok - blabla bleble
14. okay this, just dem hue mod. dem, waiting player hit 04:17:424 - this... in qualifih. bye lel dem sir

nika mika wrote:

Hi Raiden!
M4M wanted so i post a mod here

IGNITE THE HEART AND MAKE IT APPROVED

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:20:151 (65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72) - d kkk d kkk d? flows better as it is now I think
2. 00:23:787 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95) - same here, but if u need some variation i suggest 95 as d same ^
3. 00:34:696 (156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163) - a bit curious why you changed the rhythm here not a rhythm change, just a denser pattern. The rhythm stays the same lol
4. 00:43:939 - add d
5. 00:51:211 - ^ both the same answer. If you can see I consistently alternate between having note and not having note in these parts
6. 01:14:696 (394,395,396,398,399,400) - ddk then kkd I think it's fine how it is now
7. 01:27:575 - add a note here?
8. 01:34:848 - ^ No to both. The vocals part will not have 5-plets
9. 02:16:515 (776) - should be a d to follow your previous pattern The k is intended to be a support beat for the patterns that are coming
10. 02:25:605 - i suggest the spinner ends here when the bass is weak enough for players to ignore it..and some break as well The spinner is fine as it is now, since players will have more than enough time to hit it entirely. This is not osu!standard
11. 02:27:272 - add d there is no drum hit until 02:27:424 -
12. 02:27:424 (1) - k drum hit, would sound really weird as a k
13. 02:41:969 (84) - 02:42:424 (88) - k dkk dkk gives a nicer feeling towards the end of the pattern
14. 02:42:575 (90) - d
15. 02:49:393 (128) - k
16. 02:54:848 - k
17. 03:02:121 - d
18. 03:03:787 (212,213,214,215) - all d No to all 5. Sorry I think they work just fine xD
19. 03:37:878 (418) - delete or move to 03:37:272 -
20. 03:41:515 (430) - move to 03:40:908 -
21. 03:41:060 (430,431,432,433,434,435,436,437,438,439,440,441,442,443,444,445,446,447,448,449,450,451,452,453,454,455,456,457,458,459,460,461,462,463,464,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478,479,480,481,482,483,484,485,486) - i suggest you remap this part using previous patterns like 03:33:787 (407,408,409,410,411,412,413,414,415,416,417,418) - lol no, it's fine as it is
    also add some note each sentence as a fade-in effect /me runs
22. 04:02:727 - while the most of players dont tap last note of the spinner exactly here, if u want to keep this rhythm i suggest u made the spinner shorter and add a d here there is no hit here, would be a bit, uh nonsense to put a note xD
23. 04:20:075 - 04:22:499 - 04:23:408 - 04:24:621 - fill in the blanks no lol, the stream is strictly made to guitar, and there are rest moments/held notes here
24. 04:36:666 - add any note nooo
25. 04:43:939 - ^ ^
    well i noticed that u try to make dk kd dk and rhythm like x xxx x xxx..... in order to keep a variance between normal patterns such as x xx xxxxx xx xx xxxxxxxx, i still recommend you add make the doublets part the same like 04:36:666 - add any note and 04:43:939 - ^ I don't think I would agree with those arrangements lol
26. 05:21:666 (227,229) - d
27. 05:22:045 - k
28. 05:22:272 (235,236) - d I think they all flow better like this right now ^ (to all 3)
29. 05:30:151 - add a D here and move the spinner right after it? I think the sound isn't emphasizable enough to deserve a Finisher. Also, the long note held by the vocalist calls for a shaker, so I put a shaker.

Nice song nice map! I havent listen to rock songs for ages and this song is rather good thanks! But this is symphonic metal lol
maybe i should re-download some bought rock albums again.....

FastBoy wrote:

[Inner Oni]
the notes placed in the period from 00:39:242 to 00:53:787 is just similar to those in the period from 00:53:787 to 01:22:878
but actually there are lyrics in the latter period
so we can think that two periods are different
my suggestion is to place notes base on the lyrics and the singer's sound in the latter period it's similar but not 100%. It's intentional

01:24:545 (452,453,454,455) - dk kd no... the snare+drum works kd dk
01:25:908 (459,460) - swap why?
01:28:333 (471,472) - swap ^
01:28:636 (474) - d I use the same notes to support the patterns, sorry
01:28:863 (476,477) - swap they are fine now
01:29:242 (479,482) - d but why??

really nice map Ow< thanks!
good luck~

Baraatje123 wrote:

YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THE FIRE
NOR WHITHOUT THE APPROVAL FLAME

Nwolf wrote:

As requested (I doubt there's any harm in doing this) the TNA concerns with this:

Generally a nice 1/3+1/6 map

Final SV doesn't play well
Kiai needs minor fixes cause kat rhythm gets a bit weird
"Patterns are very flat, too few ups and downs." / Some need minor fixes (maybe self-mod it and watch for some slightly inconsistent/weird spots cause the structures are actually fine, it's the hitsounds/colors mostly)

1. Within Temptation - Iron
   
   1. Pattern arrangement needs improvement.
   2. Final SV is too extreme.

Final SV doesn't play well
Kiai needs minor fixes cause kat rhythm gets a bit weird
"Patterns are very flat, too few ups and downs." / Some need minor fixes (maybe self-mod it and watch for some slightly inconsistent/weird spots cause the structures are actually fine, it's the hitsounds/colors mostly)

Aldwych wrote:

Special Mod for TNA.

I'll try to respond as much as possible about the problems mentioned.

1. Within Temptation - Iron
   
   1. Pattern arrangement needs improvement.
   2. Final SV is too extreme.

Final SV doesn't play well
Kiai needs minor fixes cause kat rhythm gets a bit weird
"Patterns are very flat, too few ups and downs." / Some need minor fixes (maybe self-mod it and watch for some slightly inconsistent/weird spots cause the structures are actually fine, it's the hitsounds/colors mostly)

[Pattern issues]

00:23:636 (87 & 91) : Your current pattern has too much k. You really should go on d with these 2. Now the k are more consistent with the music and hearable. I don't see the problem on having more k to differentiate from previous pattern really

00:28:030 : This one should go d too. If you analyse slowly the previous note. It's quite different. This current note is more like the next one. the k is necessary. Has different feeling than 00:24:393 (94) - . Also it sounds better as k

00:41:818 : Imo that should be d k k k d d d k. Vocals in the begining and then battery. starting the pattern with a k sounds better I think

[Structure issues]

00:43:484++ : Well faq your doublets. In that case try to add a k in order to do dkkkd. That's quite nice and less boring. Actually you're doublets make me sleeping. what...? No dude that'd cause biggggg inconsistencies in the following patterns (also I cannot care less that you fall asleep lol)

[Personnal opinion]

00:09:696 : That's more up to you, but because of the guitar you can go k aswell strictly followed drum hits here

00:45:605 : Triple k coz vocal changements? changed in a different way

Saving the mod

00:58:939 : The fact that you've nothing here makes the pattern not symetrical. :/ Maybe noone cares but lel. nah, it's symmetrical, like 01:06:363 (345,346,347,348) -

01:07:727 : Maybe go as ddk instead since the next k part are the same than the end of the triplet. Also maybe easier to play and lecture. I feel ending the pattern with a k gives easier time hitting the next d

01:08:636++ : Man no. 5 doublets is just so weird. I know we can do better here m9. Did you tried at 01:09:090 kdddkdkd ? weird? what? no dude it's bootyful

01:15:908++ : Same here. That's not an accurate place to do doublets. It doesn't fit well. You can go on the same way as above. it's accurate... the thing you suggested sounds really weird considering the structure I use

01:28:181++ : This set is not really consistent with what you did before. Actually, you're using ABBA pattern structure. And here you go for AABB (just look on the streams pattern). 01:22:878 - is the start of a new measure: hence the patterns will be slightly different. It is even bookmarked >->

01:30:908 : I don't feel good with this kkddk. Imo kddk is better because you rarelly staring with kkd pattern. changed differently: good catch

01:59:696 : Not enough d here. :< Maybe go for k here. Accurate way with vocals (yea blabla not follow vocals on taiko blabla). exactly :>

02:15:454 : You should follow somether else like guitar here. Go for k x2 ? nu, check other parts like this

02:21:211 : I think you should stop your spinner at 02:26:969, if someone fails (yea it's an inner Oni Noone decent taiko player failed on spiner lololol you scumbag), he has to react for 1/3. plsssssssss spacing between note+spinner should be 1/2 (1/3 in this case) u silly goose

02:28:636 : Thoose doublets asga. >o< got problem with them? fite me irl bro

02:41:969 : This is the only quint of the pattern, maybe a bit strange. aka every second measure I make denser pattern to differentiate from the first. I think it's quite obvious :^^^)

-- Start of third part (yea triple post baby!) --

03:04:242 I don't find the reason why you only got 1 d on this stream. I mean why no full k? Maybe you should go for d here as well it seems that previously you used d onlt for main battery. This seems to be an accurate place. I tried several patterns, and the best one I found was this one (in fact it was all k's before)

03:10:151 Your finishers are not really regular. I mean around this section you have none because of the long pattern and i'ts make like xx.x. Maybe you can have an arrengment? They are regular lol... it's just a different pattern

03:13:787 All your finisher around here are D so why here it's K? Also the K are not as intense as the D one. I don't think that's a good idea to go for K. Oh well you go for K after on the same section. But so the one at 03:06:515 should be K too. Kept to differentiate from first kiai. Also it's a good deep hit that would fit both as K and D

03:24:696 So here you got your finishers but not on the other one. Maybe it's intended but not sexy. So i think you should go on the same way for the previous patterns. dude look at the patterns, it has a clear arrangement

03:36:211 Delete? Nicer for me. But no real reason else xD this part was way less denser before. I think the part has nicer density right now, not really making higher nor lower

03:41:060 YOu should go D. Kinda new section here. I don't consider it emphasizable enough for a finisher

03:48:333 Finisher too. same

03:55:605 ^ ^

04:19:318 Swap this and the next 3. You put the d on higher sounds of the guitar. woops fixed

-- end of the third part --

DarkVortex wrote:

Random mod because epic song and you modded my map as well. (Also for TNA )

[General]
How about cutting the sound at the very beginning away? Sounds like the end of "Fire and Ice" but honestly this sounds weird as it's not part of the song.
HP=6 or even 7? The map is ridiculously easy to pass for 5.55* due to only one stream part and mostly easier patterns throughout the map.

I prefer easy passes on my approval maps.

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[Inner Oni]
00:09:545 (2,3,4,5) - These sound like snares. Maybe turn them into k? yeah they are snare hits, but they also sound like deep hits and the beginning has the lower tone feeling
00:16:818 (46,47,48,49) - Descending drums here. Currently it's fine with k though k k d d would emphasize the descension a bit more. I maintained a high number of k's to differ from previous measure
00:21:060 (73) - This finisher feels out of place imo as you mapped to the strongest crashes before like 00:10:151 (6,28,50) - Here isn't such a crash though and 00:22:878 (83) - would be rather worth putting a finish on. that'd break consistency. I use it at the end of every measure
00:27:575 (112,113,114,115,116,117,118) - How about dkd k d k D ? Fits the bassdrum on 00:27:727 (114,116) - well, doesn't feel tensed to play and is consistent with the D from 00:24:696 (96) - has clear different feeling (and higher tone) from last part, thus the different pattern + additional k's
00:30:757 (131,132,133) - For me this one sounds more like d k d as the snare is on 00:30:908 (132) - then I'd have to change everything on the patterns like these: look closely to the patterns behind it.
00:31:060 (133,139) - Add finishers here? added notes instead for consistency with other parts
00:31:969 (141) - D for consistency with 00:24:696 (96) - / K if you put the 2 finishers from above no: the measures starting from that part have considerably higher tone, hence the K's

Other idea: 00:31:060 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - K d K d K d K to follow the crashes. Also provides some variance to parts like 00:23:787 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - I prefer how it is now... besides I'd have to change again every pattern like this

00:38:181 (181) - k for snare support beats for the patterns are the same through all the song (either all d's or all k's)
00:39:848 - Why is this left out? It makes me sad actually as this goes on at 00:40:757 - 00:41:666 - 00:43:484 - 00:44:393 - 00:47:121 - 00:48:030 - 00:48:939 - 00:50:757 - 00:51:666 - to name a few. You should overthink your patterning here imo no... it is fine as it is now. It has a note every 2nd measure and it sounds fine

00:52:424 (265) - This should have a k as well as 00:52:878 (269) - why?
00:52:878 (269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278) - Descending motion while your patterns are ascending. Put kdddd or something similar instead it's rather a "static" motion

Missing beats on 00:54:393 - 00:55:302 - 00:56:211 - and so on again. Maybe it's intended but I'm too stupid to get why xD intended... it flows better like that

01:08:333 (362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380) - Feels so copy & pasted. Starting on 01:08:333 - another instrument joins in so one possible way would be to add slightly more density to this part. ehh no... it would cause inconsistency

01:22:575 (446) - k a d is easier to hit since the previous pattern ends in a k. Also sounds equally good
Starting on 01:35:605 - How about this instead? http://puu.sh/jY59B/2ee801481f.png The 7-plet should be starting here 01:36:060 - changed differently

02:28:939 - etc. Missing beats (still didn't get why) same answer
02:34:545 (41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49) - the same pattern twice? how about making the second one kkk intended, the motion is rather static
02:49:242 (127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134) - kkddk kkd fits better imo changed differently
03:03:787 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222) - uhh why a long stream here? variation from previous kiai start
03:07:878 (242,243) - swap these two to k d for the sake of the vocal and snare it sounds good as it is now, there is no snare hit here
03:57:121 - add d that part is dense enough xd

part starting on 04:02:878 - adding more density would lead into the stream better. example: from 04:04:242 (6) - http://puu.sh/jY6aI/c67154ffd4.jpg no sorry, that'd mean mapping to silence (not my style)
04:20:151 (116,117,118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127) - dkkdkdkdkkddk why?? the stream is fitting the guitar notes
04:27:424 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - K d K d K d K would fit nicely here same answer as a bit before
05:14:318 (176) - this k doesn't seem to fit imo it does... can use to accompany vocals
05:28:939 (276,277) - swap to kd? sounds good as dk as well lol
05:30:151 - finisher required to finish this map off I'll think about it

That's it I think. Good luck to get this ranked! thanks!!

[I]MMoRTal[S] wrote:

[Nope]
00:17:121 - d d D k k can't emphasize that D as good as d d
00:20:757 - ^ you can keep it like this for more varies pattern I don't understand what you try to say...

01:07:802 - delete playing with 1/2 on here looks fun the 1/4 fits considering that its the end of the measure and I do that on every part like this

01:45:151 (583,584) - Ctrl+G kat rhythm is weird
01:46:060 (588,590) - ^ ^

01:46:818 - d k d d k k d k d d D hmmmm :/ changed differently

01:48:787 - k hmmm ye has higher tone

01:54:999 (645,646) - Ctrl+G what's the point on swapping? 645 and 646 are both k's
01:56:060 (651,652) - ^ they are both d???? what would swapping them bring lol

03:04:015 (216,217,218) - ddd ..... k is feel too much.. ughhh "uggh" what? it fits well considering its a buildup higher tone for the kiai

03:48:787 - delete i don't see any strong reason to have note here accompanies the melody... removing it sounds empty


use this as a main note structure for kiai.... cuz you follow drum I don't think so...

GL Iron map

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Taiko mod

About

1. d is don note
2. k is kat note
3. D is finish don note
4. K is finish kat note

Inner Oni

1. 00:31:060 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141,142) - me parece muy dificil para ponerlo al principio del mapa, algo como 00:20:302 (66,67,68,69,70) - era entendible, elimina 00:31:742 - 00:31:136 - ya que 00:31:666 (140,141,142) - se siente incomodo al jugarlo pos sí, eliminé algunas notas D:
2. a partir de 00:37:424 - te falto añadirle algo de variabilidad, algo asi como la parte que inicia en 00:44:696 - En esta es así intencionado, para el inicio de la nueva medición
3. 01:07:727 (359,360,361) - se siente mas como ddk porque venias combinando notas pero manteniendo un orden de colores, ejemplo aqui: 00:51:969 - hasta 00:53:787 -/ lo mismo aqui 00:59:242 - hasta 01:01:060 -/ woooooooo SIII
4. 01:28:030 - siento que ahi es necesario agregar una nota, por consistencia con tus patrones. arreglado en todas las partes antes del kiai
5. 01:39:848 (551) - que tal si mueves esta nota hacia 01:39:393 - ya de ahi tu arreglale la combinacion de colores pero se siente que 01:39:696 - ahi va el descanso. se siente "descanso" porque el vocal da una pequeña pausa, pero yo no suelo usar vocales. Además, creo que es consistente con las estructuras que he usado anteriormente
6. 01:54:393 (642) - lo mismo que lo anterior ^, 01:54:393 (642) - se siente mas necesario en 01:53:939 - que 01:54:393 - verdad? igual que antes
7. 01:59:696 - me parece que es realmente necesario que sea k, aunque seguro diras que no porque se vera muy repetitivo con 02:00:454 (679,680,681,682,683) - pero creo que debes consisderarlo Imagino que el k es por vocal, pero como ya dije yo no sigo vocal xD Aparte, hay varios así
8. 02:12:121 (755,756,757) - y 02:12:575 (759,760,761) - a leguas se notan que estan off, suena mejor si mueves 02:12:196 (756) - hacia 02:12:045 - y lo mismo con 02:12:651 (760) - muevelo hacia 02:12:499 - woops es verdad

espero ayudarte aunque sea un poco, muy buen mapa bro grasia <3

1. 00:20:530 (69) - Remove? A 5-plet feels out of place, and as you use 3-plets in the rest, this also feels much more consistent
2. 00:31:060 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - Feels really overmapped. Try the following x xxx x xxx x (fill in yourself )
3. 01:08:030 (360) - k? It fits the drum much more (the heavy strings)
4. 01:22:575 (446) - ^^
5. 01:25:908 (463,464) - Make 463 a d, the vocals are quite low pitched. If you apply this, also make (464) a k, to fit in with the drum's snares
6. 02:10:151 - Start an other kiai here? (untill 02:13:787)
7. 02:17:424 - ^^
8. 02:12:878 (761,762,763,764,765,766,767) - Oeh, I like this pattern
9. 02:19:242 (803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823) - Tone down. It's way too hard for non-kiai (in proportion to the kiai) Unless you apply (2^^) tone it down
10. 03:03:787 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222) - Wayy to long for such weak sounds. There is no 1/6 in the music, so please don't map to that
11. 03:07:878 (242) - k for snares
12. 03:12:424 (273) - ^^
13. 03:14:242 (283) - ^^ (In the previous parts you Always map snares with k, except here, it feels weird
14. 03:14:848 (287) - d, too many consecutive k feels weird here
15. 03:22:575 (337) - k sounds better to me
16. 03:33:863 - Make this a SV change (to 0.8/0.9) to fit in with the incredibly slow music
17. 03:35:302 (411) - Remove, it feels overmapped for such an incredibly calm part. You may however also nudge it back by 1/3 (do what you want)
18. 03:38:939 (422) - ^^
19. 03:42:575 (434) - ^^
20. 03:46:211 (445) - ^^
21. 03:49:848 (456) - ^^
22. 04:09:696 (35,36,37) - There is a 1/6 drumroll which is faint yet audible, consider mapping it
23. 04:16:060 (68,69,70) - ^^
24. 04:17:424 - Kiai please (until 04:31:969)
25. 05:04:393 (114) - k feels better
26. 05:28:333 (269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288) - Why not fully map this? There is a 1/6 drumroll at every unmapped note, thus it should be mapped that way

Sayaka- wrote:

Hi! Random mod

[Inner Oni]

1. 01:07:424 (356,357,358,359,360,361,362,363) - what about this pattern? it would be more logical according to the previous pattern and it would fit the song better done a different pattern, thanks for noticing lol
2. 02:16:515 (786) - change to d? to be consistent with previous patterns since it goes like this: dkdd dkkd dkkk oooops yea
3. 03:03:787 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222) - kkddddkkd would fit the drum better imo I highly prefer the high amount of k's on this one due to the tone and the buildup
4. 03:15:908 (293,294,295,296,297) - that pattern looks really weird and doesn't match anything in the song, consider changing it do dkddk for example? yyeeaa I guess
5. 03:14:242 (283) - change to k to match the snare? yup

Pretty nice map, good luck for rank! thx baby

Baraatje123 wrote:

Hey!
Random mod
(Okay, perhaps a little TNA like )

[Diff]

1. 00:20:530 (69) - Remove? A 5-plet feels out of place, and as you use 3-plets in the rest, this also feels much more consistent there's another one at 00:34:999 - , that 5plet was intentional to avoid patterns being too flat
2. 00:31:060 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - Feels really overmapped. Try the following x xxx x xxx x (fill in yourself ) did something here
3. 01:08:030 (360) - k? It fits the drum much more (the heavy strings) d helps keeping the flow much more
4. 01:22:575 (446) - ^^ ^
5. 01:25:908 (463,464) - Make 463 a d, the vocals are quite low pitched. If you apply this, also make (464) a k, to fit in with the drum's snares its like that because I used k's to fill in the pattern and d in the percussion hit
6. 02:10:151 - Start an other kiai here? (untill 02:13:787)
7. 02:17:424 - ^^ not fan of flashy short kiais here
8. 02:12:878 (761,762,763,764,765,766,767) - Oeh, I like this pattern thx babe
9. 02:19:242 (803,804,805,806,807,808,809,810,811,812,813,814,815,816,817,818,819,820,821,822,823) - Tone down. It's way too hard for non-kiai (in proportion to the kiai) Unless you apply (2^^) tone it down eh?? no not toning down... it's completely fine lol
10. 03:03:787 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222) - Wayy to long for such weak sounds. There is no 1/6 in the music, so please don't map to that there is something called buildup rhythm
11. 03:07:878 (242) - k for snares
12. 03:12:424 (273) - ^^
13. 03:14:242 (283) - ^^ (In the previous parts you Always map snares with k, except here, it feels weird fixed on previosu mod
14. 03:14:848 (287) - d, too many consecutive k feels weird here not to me, the music tone goes up by quite a lot
15. 03:22:575 (337) - k sounds better to me sounds equally good to me
16. 03:33:863 - Make this a SV change (to 0.8/0.9) to fit in with the incredibly slow music not fan of low sv changes
17. 03:35:302 (411) - Remove, it feels overmapped for such an incredibly calm part. You may however also nudge it back by 1/3 (do what you want)
18. 03:38:939 (422) - ^^
19. 03:42:575 (434) - ^^
20. 03:46:211 (445) - ^^
21. 03:49:848 (456) - ^^ no to all, sorry. That part's density is more than fine lol
22. 04:09:696 (35,36,37) - There is a 1/6 drumroll which is faint yet audible, consider mapping it i fail to hear it xd
23. 04:16:060 (68,69,70) - ^^ I prefer to leave the space blank after every "AH" of the singer/opera/whatever
24. 04:17:424 - Kiai please (until 04:31:969) I don't think it deserves a kiai :/
25. 05:04:393 (114) - k feels better since this kiai's tone is way higher than rpevious, I guess it's fine to add more k's C:
26. 05:28:333 (269,270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282,283,284,285,286,287,288) - Why not fully map this? There is a 1/6 drumroll at every unmapped note, thus it should be mapped that way there is none at 05:29:621 - or 05:29:166 - , but yeah at the rest

Good luck!
Have a star cause awesum song thx babe

1. 00:20:530 (69) - I don't think a 5plet is really needed in this part, let's keep this section of the song as triplets.
2. 00:31:136 (135) - ^
3. 00:34:848 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164) - ^ ddd k kkd?
   Then the ones before the singing can stay as like "we done here bitch"
4. 00:52:878 - A bit of emphasis could be mapped to the drums leading into the vocals here but gg.
5. 01:07:196 (354) - This just kinda sucks since it's ugly... kill
   Maybe the parts before first kiai could have mainly triplets above all, then after first kiai 5plets start to happen more frequently? Yeaaah.
   
6. 01:47:575 (599) - d because same color in a row can die!?
7. 02:02:424 (692) - k because same color in a row can die!?
8. 01:59:696 (676) - k? Then 02:00:757 (682) - k here also? So instead of this lame d d d d k there's more substance to it.
9. 02:04:696 - Lead in with the triplets then go into 5plets? You're giving me the dinner before lunch man...
10. 02:48:333 (119) - k as well? Having only this one as ddd doesn't quite map to much
11. 03:04:090 (218,219) - You look like you're mapping something with this, make this k so it's more of a 'lel it is fun patern' thing?
12. 04:17:424 (76) - This to 04:19:242 (100) - is actually more well-represented by kdkkdd repeated, but then you can make 04:19:166 (99) - k so it doesn't lead into a don on onbeat, unless you like that.
13. 04:20:075 - Not mapping this would mean not mapping 04:19:621 (105) - etc. FULL STREAM!?
14. 04:20:151 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122) - Also a kkdkdd sort of thing (nerffman))!
15. 04:21:060 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - kill noobs
    
16. 04:23:408 - no d here!? The whole solo could be a stream... would be if it was me... ok maybe too NRTD-like...
    
17. 04:53:030 (39,40) - dd for similar reasons to other kkkkkkd
18. 05:00:378 (89) - k? Looks nicer and makes a cool k kkk rhythm.
19. 05:20:605 (219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237) - I hate you.
20. 05:25:454 (252) - d? SO I DON'T HATE YOU TWICE?

OzzyOzrock wrote:

[Ironi]

1. 00:20:530 (69) - I don't think a 5plet is really needed in this part, let's keep this section of the song as triplets.
2. 00:31:136 (135) - ^ accepting these 2 would mean betraying baraatje also i said that i wanted them to avoid flat patterns boi. But i changed that ddddk bcuz it was dumb as hell
3. 00:34:848 (158,159,160,161,162,163,164) - ^ ddd k kkd? did something different
   Then the ones before the singing can stay as like "we done here bitch" yaaaa
4. 00:52:878 - A bit of emphasis could be mapped to the drums leading into the vocals here but gg. did something
5. 01:07:196 (354) - This just kinda sucks since it's ugly... kill u discriminator
   Maybe the parts before first kiai could have mainly triplets above all, then after first kiai 5plets start to happen more frequently? Yeaaah. nggngnyeaeaaaa the structure was intentional i mean every 2nd measure to have 5plets or longer patterns like in all song,,, dem
   
6. 01:47:575 (599) - d because same color in a row can die!? lel ok
7. 02:02:424 (692) - k because same color in a row can die!? well ok
8. 01:59:696 (676) - k? Then 02:00:757 (682) - k here also? So instead of this lame d d d d k there's more substance to it. k i actually felt ddddk was not fitting into higher vocals. i dotn ever follow vocals BUT STILL???
9. 02:04:696 - Lead in with the triplets then go into 5plets? You're giving me the dinner before lunch man... did something here
10. 02:48:333 (119) - k as well? Having only this one as ddd doesn't quite map to much changed 120. 119 is a fking drum hit ozzy
11. 03:04:090 (218,219) - You look like you're mapping something with this, make this k so it's more of a 'lel it is fun patern' thing? they are both k already what
12. 04:17:424 (76) - This to 04:19:242 (100) - is actually more well-represented by kdkkdd repeated, but then you can make 04:19:166 (99) - k so it doesn't lead into a don on onbeat, unless you like that. meh i mapped following my dream of guitar pitch i think its good idk... tldr min is bettur gtfo thx
13. 04:20:075 - Not mapping this would mean not mapping 04:19:621 (105) - etc. FULL STREAM!? removed that note
14. 04:20:151 (111,112,113,114,115,116,117,118,119,120,121,122) - Also a kkdkdd sort of thing (nerffman))! ahh no?!??!?!?!? dude guitar,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
15. 04:21:060 (123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) - kill noobs que
    
16. 04:23:408 - no d here!? The whole solo could be a stream... would be if it was me... ok maybe too NRTD-like... lol missed it added lolololollololololol thx ozzy kiss me marry me give me a baby
    
17. 04:53:030 (39,40) - dd for similar reasons to other kkkkkkd higher tone higher k's bro deal with it
18. 05:00:378 (89) - k? Looks nicer and makes a cool k kkk rhythm. yaaa i need more ks in this part
19. 05:20:605 (219,220,221,222,223,224,225,226,227,228,229,230,231,232,233,234,235,236,237) - I hate you. but its opposite day
20. 05:25:454 (252) - d? SO I DON'T HATE YOU TWICE? that'd mean destroying k tone fuuuuuuuu

Rest I don't mind at all. My mod during the solo was a bit rushed but the main point of this particular mod was some idea stuff... you are the criminal mastermind. lyf suks

JUDYDANNY wrote:

Asked some before starts the modding

19:21 JUDYDANNY: hi Raiden :3
19:21 Raiden: owo hi Judy
19:21 *JUDYDANNY is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/772457 Within Temptation - Iron [Inner Oni]]
19:22 JUDYDANNY: can I ask the question something ?
19:22 Raiden: s-sure ;w;
19:22 JUDYDANNY: :D
19:23 JUDYDANNY: 01:37:878 (542,543) -  swap (followed to based drums) or 01:37:727 (541,542) - swap (followed to fantasic vocal feelings for the long distance).
19:23 JUDYDANNY: Other lack of kats (e.g. 04:46:969 (3,4) - , 03:06:060 (231,232) - , 04:48:787 (13,14) - ) are same , consider again.
19:24 Raiden: hmm
19:25 Raiden: owo yes
19:25 Raiden: fixed lack of kats
19:24 JUDYDANNY: "And"
19:24 JUDYDANNY: 01:44:999 (585,586,587,588,589,590,591,592,593,594) - how about change the rhythm plots? from 5-5 to 2-5-2? (e.g. dk-kdddk-dK)
19:24 JUDYDANNY: vocal variation sounds good to me.
19:25 Raiden: hmmm...
19:25 JUDYDANNY: These are better IRC than forum mod I thougtht.
19:25 JUDYDANNY: how do you feel ? :3
19:29 JUDYDANNY: long tone sounds good to me, this suggestion is just only for that.
19:26 Raiden: i mean, how it is now... i don't usually follow vocal
19:28 Raiden: i tried 2-5-2 but
19:28 Raiden: ahh orz
19:30 JUDYDANNY: if you dont prefer, no changing is ok.
19:29 Raiden: i feel bad when saying no to people that really put effort
19:30 Raiden: ;w;
19:30 JUDYDANNY: ;w;
19:31 JUDYDANNY: sure.


19:31 JUDYDANNY: aaaa
19:31 Raiden: what happened
19:31 Raiden: D:
19:31 JUDYDANNY: 00:09:545 (2,3,4,5) - change to [color=#0000FF]k[/color]? 00:09:242 – begins to follow the drums. Making the consistency for drums (hi the snare)?
19:31 Raiden: i was suggested this too
19:31 Raiden: but i said no for the "lower tone of the start"
19:32 Raiden: but if its 100% necessary...
19:33 JUDYDANNY: uuumm...  
19:33 JUDYDANNY: leave this for now,  
19:34 Raiden: ok :3
19:34 JUDYDANNY: if Gezo (maybe lol) suggest you again, I guess you may change these ;w;
19:34 Raiden: okay =3=
19:35 JUDYDANNY: ok, update please.  After that, I will mod again.

Just simple checked.

[Inner Oni]

1. 00:37:727 – and 00:38:636 – change to d? to follow the bass drums even just a little. changed every in that measure, because I use all same colour for suport beats
2. 01:07:802 – remove? feels over power a bit imo. i guess it sounds better ye
3. 01:14:242 (394,395) - d? Lack of d sounds. Maybe? you don’t prefer to put 01:14:393 (396,397) – d? did something to avoid monotony o3o
4. 01:28:408 (478,479) – and 01:28:863 (482,483) - , change to kd? Sudden patterns kdk.(you don’t use dkd patterns before d-plots part). kkd also sounds good to me. even if it's not kiai...the patterns are ending all in k with due to higher tone, with d as support beat in the middle... I think it is fine now and is not that hard to hit.. "Inner Oni" is challenging ;w;
5. 03:06:969 (236,237,238,239,240) – kddkk? changed to kdkkd instead, i think it fits more vocal while still following percussion
6. 03:07:575 – , 03:07:878 - change to k and 03:06:969 (236,237,238) – change to kdd or kkd? lack of kat sounds.
7. 03:14:545 – change to d , if you changed the before suggestion. fixed on last suggestion as i found correct o3o
   
8. 03:19:545 (319,320,321) – lack of kats , not consistency with common patterns. fixed /me baka
9. 03:48:333 – add finisher? i thought about this...but i dont consider it emphasizable enough for finisher :3
   
   
10. 04:16:439 – add d? bass drums sound and for preparing to next long stream. fixed
11. 1/6 long stream has a theory, but sometimes this looks being broken imo. So, I suggest you to be broken the more for the sounds and plays. the stream was made following the guitar notes... I really think it's good after I discussed with Ozzy
12. 04:19:545 – change to d, bass drum sounds and for making a gap 04:19:696 (106,107) – be weak a bit low-tone bass. it has different tone from next note, so i did that to contrast
13. 04:20:605 – change to k , same as before snare. I strictly followed guitar here, not percussion ;w;
14. 04:22:272 (140,141,142) – lack of kats , try to change kkd? changed 04:22:272 (141) - because different tone
    
    aah, I changed some notes to follow more strictly guitar, I beg you to recheck ;w;
    
15. 05:05:151 (118) – lack of kats. fixed
16. 05:18:181 – change to d? feels lack of don sounds for 05:18:181 (203,204) - . that part has higher number of k intentionally, because I wanted to emphasize the clearly higher tone of the last part
17. 05:20:908 – same as above.
18. 05:22:272 - ^
19. 05:22:424 - ^? If you prefer.
20. 05:22:424 (235) – same as above. same answer to all ;w;
    

(¦3[___]

_Gezo_ wrote:

irony

[Cerveza Inner Oni]
00:20:302 (66,67) - y u no d you have dons on 00:12:878 (21,22,23,24) - variety??????????????????????????????????????''''''''''¡
00:59:090 (305,306,307,308,309,310,311,312,313,314,315,316,317,318,319,320,321,322) - tbh i don't think having this many 1/6 1/3 for such a calm part really blends in well with the song `_J rip eye delted some ahahah
01:13:636 (389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399,400,401,402,403,404,405,406) - same goes here (notice i didn't point out the other ones) same tbh
02:03:333 (697) - kat to maintain the kat rhythm? yeahh
02:33:636 (33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50) - ↓ SQUARE!!!!!!!
02:48:181 (118,119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130,131,132,133,134,135) - same as a bit above lol no square here?????????????????? DIE IN HELL
03:03:787 (214,215,216,217,218,219,220,221,222) - baka stream because i feel like that loses focus on the snare hits go to hell

05:18:484 (205,206,207,208,209) - is of weird playing imo ok dad
05:25:757 (254,255,256,257,258) - saem same dad

21:28 _Gezo_: nuffin up to the solo
21:29 Raiden: safafiajfi
21:30 Raiden: i said hi in indonesian 
21:30 _Gezo_: LOL
21:30 _Gezo_: pls
21:30 _Gezo_: now the solo part
21:30 Raiden: eheeeeeeeeeeeeeheeh
21:30 Raiden: the solo is baka
21:30 Raiden: `_J
21:30 Raiden: `
21:30 _Gezo_: `_J <è
21:30 _Gezo_: rip eye
21:31 Raiden: fukc
21:31 _Gezo_: ofuk
21:31 _Gezo_: do you mind if i give you my solo suggestion in a .osu
21:32 Raiden: seriously
21:32 Raiden: is it THAT bad?
21:32 _Gezo_: if i give it in text form it will be too hard to understand `_J`
21:32 Raiden: i fucking followed guitar
21:32 _Gezo_: no i mean
21:32 Raiden: `_J`
21:32 _Gezo_: if i want you to change a 15-note portion
21:32 Raiden: i'll just delete the fillers
21:32 _Gezo_: rip
21:32 Raiden: and probably wont change much after that
21:32 _Gezo_: 04:19:090 (99,100) - this is baka
21:33 Raiden: that is probably a filler
21:33 _Gezo_: why did within temptation put such a difficult solo
21:33 _Gezo_: `_J`
21:33 Raiden: 04:18:711 (94,95) -  here too
21:33 Raiden: the guitarist struggles to keep 1/6
21:33 Raiden: but its 1/6
21:34 _Gezo_: they need a better guitarist
21:34 *_Gezo_ hides
21:34 Raiden: prolly
21:34 Raiden: let me revise it entirely by my own
21:34 Raiden: and you tell me what you think after i update `_J`
21:34 _Gezo_: if you really want guitar i could throw you suggestions
21:34 _Gezo_: `_J`
21:34 Raiden: fakdfjmsfhnksjgjsfh
21:34 _Gezo_: ´_I_`
21:34 Raiden: patience `_J`
21:35 _Gezo_: THIS IS THE BEST FACE EVER
21:35 _Gezo_: LOL
21:35 _Gezo_: ´L_´ = seen from right
21:35 _Gezo_: `_J` = seen from left
21:36 _Gezo_: ´_I_` facing
21:36 Raiden: 04:21:893 (136) -  deleted
21:36 Raiden: its a semi held note
21:36 Raiden: or maybe the guitarist is dumb and again fails to keep 1/6
21:36 Raiden: `_J`
21:36 _Gezo_: 04:18:030 (85) - idk
21:36 _Gezo_: about that one
21:36 Raiden: clear note
21:36 _Gezo_: sounds like the pitch falls around the same as 86
21:36 Raiden: oculd be d tho
21:36 Raiden: hmhmghgm
21:37 Raiden: ya changed to d
21:37 Raiden: 04:20:908 (123) - 
21:37 _Gezo_: 04:18:560 (92) - "let's slide too hard on the guitar"
21:37 Raiden: changed to k
21:37 Raiden: has different pitch than next
21:38 _Gezo_: 04:19:090 (99) - k would make up for a better transition because idk
21:39 _Gezo_: 100 is with the next part
21:39 Raiden: actually
21:39 _Gezo_: which is different
21:39 Raiden: 04:19:166 (100,101) -  ctrl +g
21:39 Raiden: which will make it similar to your suggestion
21:39 _Gezo_: still 99 has a clearer note
21:39 _Gezo_: `_J\
21:39 _Gezo_: shit my eye stretched
21:39 Raiden: still lower pitch
21:39 Raiden: baka eye
21:40 _Gezo_: 04:19:545 (105) -
21:40 Raiden: 04:21:211 (127) -  could be removed
21:40 _Gezo_: lower pitch Kappa
21:40 Raiden: i think its a held note after04:21:136 (126) - 
21:40 Raiden: or MAYBE AGIN DGUITAR IS DUAMBN
21:40 Raiden: DUMB
21:40 _Gezo_: 04:19:696 (107,108,109) - GUITAR IS DRUMBN
21:40 _Gezo_: drumbn
21:40 Raiden: 105 has higher pitch than 106
21:40 _Gezo_: guitar is taiko bn
21:40 _Gezo_: confirmed
21:41 Raiden: even befor eme
21:41 Raiden: `_J`
21:41 Raiden: nvm about the held note
21:41 _Gezo_: actually 107 is like 1/12 earlier
21:41 _Gezo_: because guitar is dumb
21:41 Raiden: he guitarist just touches it earlier
21:41 Raiden: and softer
21:41 Raiden: >harder to hear
21:42 Raiden: fuck GUITAR
21:42 _Gezo_: 105-106 are much lower than 104/107
21:42 _Gezo_: btw
21:42 Raiden: opk
21:42 Raiden: 04:21:590 (132) - 
21:42 Raiden: deleted
21:42 Raiden: held note confirmed
21:42 Raiden: actually no
21:42 Raiden: nevrmind
21:42 Raiden: he just touches the ntoe 1/12th before 133
21:43 Raiden: i maped it mostly to new sections
21:43 Raiden: i mean to make up for the NEXT note rather than the previous
21:43 _Gezo_: 04:20:605 (119) - k to yolo
21:43 _Gezo_: fire guitarist
21:43 Raiden: different pitch than 120 
21:43 Raiden: `_J`
21:43 _Gezo_: get better guitarist
21:44 _Gezo_: 04:21:211 (127) - is it me or it is loooooooooooooooooooower pitched
21:44 Raiden: 04:22:499 (143) -  can delte this
21:45 _Gezo_: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
21:45 _Gezo_: i think at that point
21:45 Raiden: its higher pitched
21:45 _Gezo_: we're done with the golo
21:45 Raiden: but its really soft
21:45 Raiden: so it sounds like lower
21:45 Raiden: fucking dumb guitarist
21:45 _Gezo_: as i said
21:45 _Gezo_: fire guitarist
21:45 _Gezo_: Kappa
21:46 Raiden: aaah yes
21:46 Raiden: plays smoother now
21:46 Raiden: gonna upload `_J`
21:46 Raiden: done
21:46 Raiden: 5,47 
21:46 Raiden: -0,03 SR rip
21:47 _Gezo_: rip `_J`
21:47 _Gezo_: price to pay to have gud map `_J`
21:47 Raiden: fukc
21:47 Raiden: ok gonna apply 1st half
21:47 _Gezo_: nevr frgt
21:47 _Gezo_: shindehai medley
21:47 Raiden: ys
21:47 Raiden: i wanted to revive it
21:47 _Gezo_: 5.49 5.41 5.37
21:47 Raiden: pareidolia
21:47 Raiden: was 4,6 originally
21:48 Raiden: 4,28 never forget
21:48 Raiden: aaaa gonna applly 1st part
21:48 Raiden: approval HYPE
21:48 Raiden: `_J`
21:49 _Gezo_: there are 2 more liens
21:49 Raiden: only 2????????
21:49 Raiden: you are finishnedh'2O=!"?"'
21:49 Raiden: APPROVAL 
21:49 _Gezo_: i want others to buble first
21:49 Raiden: ill post log for solo guitar mod
21:49 _Gezo_: I HAD TO CHECK PAREIDOLIA RIGHT
21:49 _Gezo_: at least app xd
21:49 Raiden: you had
21:50 _Gezo_: so i'mm qualfy iron istead
21:50 *_Gezo_ is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/776757 Orange Heart(cv:Honda Mariko) Neptune(cv:Tanaka Rie) - Mousou Katharsis [Kantan]]
21:50 _Gezo_: 1 star
21:50 _Gezo_: for something that even a 4-year old kid can fc
21:50 _Gezo_: talk about broken
21:51 Raiden: ahahhh
21:51 Raiden: fuk
21:51 _Gezo_: i'm almost crying at how VOID is my mod
21:51 _Gezo_: that's 2 lost hours
21:51 Raiden: which one?
21:51 Raiden: :C
21:51 _Gezo_: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4515799#p4515799
21:52 _Gezo_: it was nerfhammered so hard
21:52 _Gezo_: it's as if you went and put akumu back to 5 stars in lawn wake
21:52 Raiden: ?!?!!?!?!??
21:52 _Gezo_: that's for imposing the diktat of pattern spacings
21:52 _Gezo_: 4/1 on 82 bpm
21:52 _Gezo_: seriously
21:52 _Gezo_: i can unzip my pants and fc it
21:54 Raiden: leleel
21:54 Raiden: 03:03:787 (210,211,212,213,214,215,216,217,218) - 
21:54 Raiden: no u baka
21:54 Raiden: why u all modders tell me about this
21:54 _Gezo_: i'll map dark cave 75
21:54 Raiden: what is UIR PROVLEM
21:54 _Gezo_: without any fucking kantan
21:54 Raiden: YWHY SO MUCH KHATE TOWARDS KATSUS
21:54 Raiden: fine ill dewlete notes
21:55 _Gezo_: mountain dewlete
21:55 *_Gezo_ runs
21:55 Raiden: wow u dank
21:55 Raiden: `_J`
21:55 _Gezo_: aint dank
21:55 _Gezo_: this mousou map isnt dank anymore
21:56 _Gezo_: and i start to hate this song somehow

OzzyOzrock wrote:

DEM SIR SON

Bubbled!

Desperate-kun wrote:

i think this should be in ranked/approved beatmaps darling

Baraatje123 wrote:

Also, is there a need for Taiko in tags?