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This is a feature request. Feature requests can be voted up by supporters.
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KuuuGR
17 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
KuuuGR
I want to play, while keep mices in both hand. I mean every mouse, has separate cursor.
It makes people have better coordination and personaly give more joy of play.

PS. I cant find this in features topic. And my second idea:
why features topic are not arranged in: song, gameplay, mods, technical or some of these categories?
It's really pain in the ass to look after all this about 50 pages with random topics.
Full Tablet
2,543 posts
Joined September 2011
Full Tablet
That would give significant advantage to some ambidextrous people, specially in some TAG4 maps.
Archangel Tirael
479 posts
Joined January 2011
Archangel Tirael
osu!space mix. :D
Space mix? What do you mean?
Something like this

Ranked osu! beatmap on this awesome music!
bwross
265 posts
Joined December 2009
bwross

Full Tablet wrote:

That would give significant advantage to some ambidextrous people, specially in some TAG4 maps.
I imagine that using two mice is probably different enough that they'd have to get their own rank list. So the only advantage would be against other people playing that way.
Uncle Buly
Uncle Buly
lol 2 cursors kgo
H_Hitachiin
819 posts
Joined September 2012
H_Hitachiin
:? As if the 2 cursors in Osu!Stream didn't already confuse me.
jemhuntr
933 posts
Joined February 2012
jemhuntr
did you not know that windows merges all pointing devices to act as one? Thus if you connect 2 mice and you move both in opposite directions, the cursor would stay where it is.

Sorry if I'm not getting your point.
Saten
Global Moderator
3,866 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
Yeah it'll only act as 1 normally

I don't even think this feature is even possible.
chaotic_iak
287 posts
Joined February 2012
chaotic_iak
It's possible, though the technique might be patented or something? Get Reflexive's Mouse Party to allow osu! its multi-mice action.
Saten
Global Moderator
3,866 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
So you are saying you can play with both hands accurately?
How many uses 2 mice, or have them even connected?

And as someone said, it would really be confusing.
osu!stream is different though, you wont be able to see the cursor constantly like you would on the PC version.

And not to mention, fast beatmaps...
There are tons of them
bwross
265 posts
Joined December 2009
bwross
I have two mice connected, and both are used.

And they do work as one pointing device. However, I'm positive that if you dig to a low enough level you could do two cursors. Either that, or modern Windows is less capable than an Amiga from 1985.
she_old
she_old

bwross wrote:

Full Tablet wrote:

That would give significant advantage to some ambidextrous people, specially in some TAG4 maps.
I imagine that using two mice is probably different enough that they'd have to get their own rank list. So the only advantage would be against other people playing that way.
if using 2 cursors then yes, it would kill many jumps as people could just use the secondary hand as a backup for hard jumps.
[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
play osu!stream D:
It would be really confusing to play this way
Soaprman
1,392 posts
Joined January 2008
Soaprman
Seems to me like something that'd just be fun maybe 2 or 3 times before you go back to playing normally.
KuuuGR
17 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
KuuuGR
No, JeMhUnTeR, I know that Windows merge cursor at one. I'm already separate it with TeamPlayer. No is not confused. I feel like I'm flying :) And it's not for play onece or twice only. I can make record of my play and share it in YouTube. Besides, I'm not skillful player yet. So show would be probably poor.
But use this metod has one big problem: you must click to change cursor to mouse youre clicking. It's not comfortable in play.
Thx for so many responses
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
I just got extremely frustrated by how insane and stupid this request is. Think about this for a minute. Who would actually be able to play this? How would you play it?
she_old
she_old
Mouse only players could probably do it if they're good with both hands. It'd be the same as mouse only but with an extra mouse \:D/
Saten
Global Moderator
3,866 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
I can actually play with Tablet and Mouse at the same time (of course, with one cursor only)
But dual mice is a completely different thing...
KuuuGR
17 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
KuuuGR
theowest this is not stupid request. Maybe you don't believe, but when mouse is invented people says "this is useless tool, because you cant write on it". As I wrote earlier, I use sofrware named "TeamPlayer 2.2" but every change of cursor belonging to separate mouse require extra click. It's troublesome. I guess it's not easier to play tablet and mouse at once. Yesterday I wasn't able to pass 2-stars maps. Today I'm able to finish maps with 3 stars. It's only matter of practice. Thx Loseri and Saten for possitive view of concept :)
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
This would create a new osu! game mode. Are you guys serious? It's a completely new way to play which wouldn't be efficient when trying to play any osu! map.
she_old
she_old
For people who can control a mouse with both hands and who have a mouse only skill level of around tana in their primary hand this certainly would be efficient.

It's a different story when talking about tablet though.
mathexpert
1,699 posts
Joined March 2011
mathexpert
A practical way might be like playing a piano; the dominant hand hits the more complex patterns, while the non-dominant hand hits more simple beats based on rhythm. Sounds pretty fun~
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
I already use 2 mice. I'd love to have multiple inputs but that's what osu!stream is for.
kriers
1,963 posts
Joined April 2010
kriers

nrii wrote:

mouse one
SPOILER
mouse 2
SPOILER

legit mouse-only player

desk is dusty as fuck
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
(Assuming I am reading this right) When you tell me how many people want to do 2 high BPM streams simultaneously, I might think about this. (I will look forward to do left-right click streams on both hands) Until then, I agree with theowest.

osu!stream was made for tablets. There are no super high BPM streams, so it has none of those issues.

If you wanted to have 2 separate mouse cursors, then that would unfair for certain type of jumps, but I guess it is not a big deal at this point.
Yarissa
587 posts
Joined September 2010
Yarissa
I actually think this would be fairly innovative and really fun to try. However I don't think the game mode itself would have a big enough fanbase to actually bother implementing ingame. Plus, not everyone has two mice.
jemhuntr
933 posts
Joined February 2012
jemhuntr

kriers wrote:

nrii wrote:

mouse one
SPOILER
mouse 2
SPOILER

legit mouse-only player

desk is dusty as fuck
holy crap mouse only player XD
Azure_Kite
osu! Alumni
3,217 posts
Joined February 2009
Azure_Kite
http://pluralinput.com/

BAM. Personally, I think this would be quite gimmicky, but hey.
KuuuGR
17 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
KuuuGR
here is my gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V-biMg9 ... e=youtu.be
Left hand is red cursor, Right is blue.
view of hands:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_3FUS81 ... e=youtu.be
I have no tool to merge this two

Azure_Kite, plural imput is not working in my computer. I has vista 32. Besides I'm not to wrote post "how to fake osu!?"
And I wrote about software I'm using till it's no osu! option.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Lybydose
You know what would be even cooler? osu!standard + mania. You use your mouse to click notes with your dominant hand while hitting 4K or 5K mania scrolling notes with your other hand.
Agka
680 posts
Joined January 2009
Agka

Lybydose wrote:

You know what would be even cooler? osu!standard + mania. You use your mouse to click notes with your dominant hand while hitting 4K or 5K mania scrolling notes with your other hand.
i actually like this idea
Azure_Kite
osu! Alumni
3,217 posts
Joined February 2009
Azure_Kite
Remix mode where generic record skip sound occurs when you shake the mouse left and right in time with the notes in osu!Mania.

It could totally be osu!Mania x.2 mode.
XPJ38
osu! Alumni
3,570 posts
Joined February 2010
XPJ38
Really guys? Really? Oh come on.

No support at all.

1) osu! is already hard enough with one mouse,
2) We have enough game modes (four!) to entertain us for a moment, and
3) Some people definitely can't stream with their mouse (me included), because of the way they hold their mouse for example, so this game mode would be very troublesome for them. I know, "it's only a matter of practice" you would say, but this would be VERY frustating for us to see that this would favour mouse-only people and discriminate mouse+kb players.

...and 4) I don't want to buy another expensive Razer mouse + mousepad, really. Mouse that besides will only serve for this particular mode, how convenient.

This idea is pure madness and coming out without any thinking at all.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
Finally someone who can think properly.
Azure_Kite
osu! Alumni
3,217 posts
Joined February 2009
Azure_Kite
but remix mode would be totally cool u cant deni it.
KuuuGR
17 posts
Joined October 2012
Topic Starter
KuuuGR
XPJ38 you don't know what you talking about. Mayby you says what you think, but you don't think what you says. I have good principle: "never write when I'm drunk". I strongly recomend it to you. And theowest you agree with someone who says nonsenses. Sory guys, but if you don't any interesting thing to say just don't say anything.
Everyone that want to try play with two mices: Get TeamPlayer version 2.2.0, and enjoy from great experience. Maybe someday osu! will have this option. Open mind is a key to impossible things.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest
and what do you know about osu!, you've played for less than a month. You can hardly FC a normal. You obviously don't know that playing with two cursor won't be efficient in any harder difficulty.

This will have to be its own game mode. Most people are already set to playing with tablets + keyboard or at least mouse + keyboard. Not everyone have or will use two mice for osu! That would never be efficient.

edit: This request is basically a osu!stream port to PC
or
TAG cop for single player and/or multiplayer. We already have tag cop for multiplayer and singleplayer for yourself to play is very limiting.
XPJ38
osu! Alumni
3,570 posts
Joined February 2010
XPJ38

KuuuGR wrote:

XPJ38 you don't know what you talking about. Mayby you says what you think, but you don't think what you says. I have good principle: "never write when I'm drunk". I strongly recomend it to you.
So that's how you deny all of my arguments. Wow. That was constructive.

And for your information what I wrote is exactly what I think. I could even add more arguments but part of them were already tackled in the thread. Think again please.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
just so you know, i'm really tempted to deny and lock this. please respect each others opinion on this idea. if you don't agree with someone that is fine. but no need to get angry over it. if this does keep up i'm just going to lock this. plain and simple :)
jemhuntr
933 posts
Joined February 2012
jemhuntr

deadbeat wrote:

just so you know, i'm really tempted to deny and lock this. please respect each others opinion on this idea. if you don't agree with someone that is fine. but no need to get angry over it. if this does keep up i'm just going to lock this. plain and simple :)
woohoo go deadbeat~ :) <3

theowest wrote:

Finally someone who can think properly.
;D
blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
As I stated before, if you want to convince, show me how you will do more difficult songs. The amount of people that play mouse only and can do 220BPM quarter note streams is probably only a handful (feel free to disprove me). Doing 2 streams going in 2 different directions simultaneously, that will be amusing.

You will need to be able to do something of this level before thinking about a new game mode.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
you know what. never mind this thread. there isn't enough gain out of this. its a interesting idea none the less, but it wouldn't be practical enough. not many people would be able to control 2 mice well enough to do this effectively. if you want to add anything constructive, contact me ingame and i'll consider what you have to say. otherwise, thread over
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