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Topic Starter
abraker
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/823960/discussion/-/generalAll#/505116 - Mapper maps a 30 second cut to a previously mapped song; Argument that this is laziness and not quality

new one in a while, thanks CB
Quibbly
Surprised no one got triggered at the necro
Westonini

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.
Quibbly

Westonini wrote:

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.

A LEGAL necro? le gasp
Serraionga

abraker wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/823960/discussion/-/generalAll#/505116 - Mapper maps a 30 second cut to a previously mapped song; Argument that this is laziness and not quality
there's gonna be people saying "b-but other mappers do it so it's okay XD!!!1" over there isn't it

EDIT: yup, called it
Topic Starter
abraker
Someone should make a mapping drama bingo table
Serraionga


i'm really tired and haven't kept up with mapping drama in a long time, you go fill the rest of the blanks
Flanster

Quibbly wrote:

Westonini wrote:

Quibbly wrote:

Surprised no one got triggered at the necro

That's just because this thread isn't a shitpost and is actually interesting.

A LEGAL necro? le gasp

I'll allow it.
Quibbly

Flanster wrote:

Quibbly wrote:

A LEGAL necro? le gasp

I'll allow it.

LE GASP
ColdTooth

Serraionga wrote:



i'm really tired and haven't kept up with mapping drama in a long time, you go fill the rest of the blanks
i can probas make one next month
Aiseca
Found Something!!!

Please add this: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/740672/discussion/1562551/general/pending

TBH... I found this to be somewhat close to me about mapping related....
Topic Starter
abraker
needs further developments, not involving only two people
Refills
Topic Starter
abraker
so what's the difference between (1,0) and (4,1)?
Aiseca
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/738265/discussion/-/generalAll/pending
I finally found some.
This is a legit mapping drama!
Issue about two a mapset getting qualified with less mods. Others are complaining about aesthetics and poor judgement of the BN's who nominated the mapset.
Topic Starter
abraker
small drama so far, but qualifies

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Aiseca

abraker wrote:

small drama so far, but qualifies

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Mind you that I joined in to express my opinions about aesthetics and how BN's handle such maps to nominations with little or questionable modding.
Topic Starter
abraker
unless it's someone who would go into osu mapping history books for partaking in the heated discussion, I'd avoid explicitly naming people part of it.
Aiseca

abraker wrote:

unless it's someone who would go into osu mapping history books for partaking in the heated discussion, I'd avoid explicitly naming people part of it.


I understand it. This is only for archiving purposes. Also, naming people imo at these kind of 'sensitive issues' is a bad idea.
_handholding
nice i'm on that list
Aiseca
Where's the Bingo Card? Q.Q)
Aiseca
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/870930/discussion/1819853/general/pending

An argument about the way Normal was mapped. Even decent players can't play it. Other questions the credibility of qualifying such map.

Twitter feed comment.
https://twitter.com/TheShadowxdd/status/1069047816360734720
Topic Starter
abraker
Aiseca
The discussion might be short-lived but here's something (not much drama really imo)

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/866806/discussion/-/generalAll

Mapper gave up his map from being ranked because of breaking the guideline about compilation which says needs three songs instead of two. QAT and Nominators had voiced out thier opinions on why it's considered unrankable.
MisakiTobisawa-
Yeah I saw that too. Man, he's unlucky.
Topic Starter
abraker
while short lived, I think that's a good example of ranking criteria's effects on what kind of maps make it to ranked

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Aiseca

Aiseca wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/870930/discussion/1819853/general/pending

INFO REDACTED


A follow-up on this particular story:
Monstrata finally dropped the bomb to the mapper on how he sees the map.

Topic Starter
abraker
damn monstrata

I don't care about rhythm choices. I want to decipher the map whatever it is. So long as it doesn't show a middle finger to the player via a diff spike or some ridiculously hard to do section, it should be alright. As a player I play first, and question the mapping last.
Aiseca
AI-chan reporting another very spicy one (this is actually got ranked like WTF....)

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/852901/discussion#/669017

Mappers have their own concept on how to reflect the song and also some very controversial topics on nomination. Massive wall of text and fiery arguments from the community spread out of the discussion room.

One also used A-L-I-E-N map as a baseline for the argument

Topic Starter
abraker
spicy

but I argue flow is as subjective as the line they draw for definition. First definition would concern when you can no longer move the cursor in a smooth motion. The subjectivity mostly comes from the player's ability to maintain around the same velocity throughout the pattern (assuming they do that instead of snapping). Sharp angles can be said to have flow like star patterns and such, and first definition doesn't cover those. Second definition would concern the stress the player experience when trying to reach an aimpoint.
Aiseca

abraker wrote:

spicy

but I argue flow is as subjective as the line they draw for when you can no longer move the cursor in a smooth motion. The subjectivity mostly comes from the player's ability to maintain around the same velocity throughout the pattern (assuming they do that instead of snapping).


The level of subjectiveness differs from player to player and what skill level they actually attain. that could be the reason why others see it fine while others don't.
Topic Starter
abraker
I updated my response before I saw your reply

second definition covers what you have said
Aiseca

abraker wrote:

I updated my response before I saw your reply

second definition covers what you have said


I think were on the same boat on this issue then.
Kibbleru
oh my, the good old days LOL

if somebody was found nowadays ranking a map with inconsistency in timing between diffs, they'd get booted right away prob xD
Topic Starter
abraker
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5666947 - mapper makes highest diff with extremely hard jacks in the ending. Drama ensues over tastes as the map gets rep from player rating. Drama resolves until bubble pop by QAT for keeping ending intact.
Aiseca
Recent events at the mapping scene brought up many people to question the system. Do you think with the current proposals here and there being put up to be discussed and have a "community-wide input" on how to make the system work well at both ends of the mapper and the higher-ups can finally be done at the start of a new chapter of mapping? Or is it another gust of wind just passing by and will be sent yet again to the depths without resolution?
Topic Starter
abraker
"Community-wide" input is not wide enough. I am actively engaging those threads and mostly BN, mappers, and modders are responding. Huge polarization on how to deal with controversial maps. Some want a QAT dictatorship to firmly decide against "low quality" maps, whatever the subjective viewpoint is. Some proposed to let random QAT and BN vote what to per controversial maps. Some are complaining ranking criteria is too relaxed and is causing the mess with controversial maps. Others propose to have the players vote if the QAT can't decide.

Ultimately, peoples have tastes differ yet those who have specific tastes and want to restrict controversial maps are the most dangerous. I am not sure whether they are aware or not of it because they can be just unhappy with how a mapper got away pushing an experimental map they don't approve of, and think nothing about how thier ideals would play out on a wider spectrum. Fears about maps curated to certain tastes and such.
Aiseca
Topic Starter
abraker
Meh it's a relatively cool 15 deg C

Tho what the hell is this

levesterz

abraker wrote:

Meh it's a relatively cool 15 deg C

Tho what the hell is this

Bunch of cancer(hororscope one) emoji.
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