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Akitoshi

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-04-26T18:11:37+00:00

@Bakari applied, thanks!

osu file format v14

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[Metadata]
Title:SUPERFLY
TitleUnicode:날라리
Artist:24K
ArtistUnicode:투포케이
Creator:DeRandom Otaku
Version:Akitoshi's Insane
Source:
Tags:Trap Choeun Entertainment K-pop Kpop 코리 기수 정욱 휘 창선 진홍 홍섭 병호 석준 성오 대일 Cory Kisu Jeunguk Hui Changsun Jinhong Hongseob Byungho Seokjun Sungoh Daeil cool c00l Firetruck Neoskylove Akitoshi Corinn
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DeRandom Otaku

2,136 posts

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Topic Starter

DeRandom Otaku 2017-04-28T14:45:03+00:00

Since neo is busy with his exams, i did fixes for him
fixed all.

riffy

osu! Alumni

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Joined December 2010

riffy 2017-04-28T15:10:48+00:00

[LIT]

01:52:346 (4,1) - spacing is two times smaller than on 01:51:724 (2,3) - which feels pretty inconsistent. this way, perhaps?

Check this and I'll bubble.

DeRandom Otaku

2,136 posts

Joined November 2014

Topic Starter

DeRandom Otaku 2017-04-28T15:21:24+00:00

i dont really think spacing should matter that much in this case since theres 1/1 gap and its an ex difficulty. But w/e Fixed

riffy

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riffy 2017-04-28T15:24:44+00:00

Okay then.

Bubbled!

Shyotamaze

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Joined December 2014

Shyotamaze 2017-04-28T15:28:50+00:00

ya na na na

Affirmation

2,543 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-04-29T10:32:39+00:00

Good.
Thanks Ren for fixing instead of me.

Strategas

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Joined July 2013

Strategas 2017-04-29T15:37:44+00:00

qualified

Firetruck

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Joined July 2015

Firetruck 2017-04-29T15:41:34+00:00

YANANANANAAAA

Cerulean Veyron

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Joined August 2012

Cerulean Veyron 2017-04-29T20:14:43+00:00

Before you're going to shout on me "but this part is 193bpm tho it fits llo", "the song downbeats are on this snap, i think current bpm is ok pls" or "other ppl and pro timers say it's fine hahahahaha". Since there is still time for this map to be looked on until reaching itself to the ranked listing; I don't seek a disqualification for this set unless in consideration or many things to overview. I demand answers and detailed reasons, and for that I shall commence discussion for once.

Recall this as: why the BPM is doubled just for the speed of sliders, or you might've misunderstood the music track. I already understand you by having your timing setup perfect, but honestly the BPM interpretation may not be. Just because using the current bpm for the 10% part of the song doesn't mean it should impeccably time such thing. Almost 3/4 of the song including the intro and choruses, all instruments like snares/claps and upbeats are snapped way dense over 1st and 3rd whereas it supposed to be on 2nd and 4th as usual to all K-pop songs. And this one is absolutely one of them. Technically the timing isn't wrong overall, but also isn't right.

As I told before, 96.5 is a valid BPM that will musically value both main and secondary tracks of the song rather than just for the two 00:50:480 -, 01:50:170 - parts that has its hi-hats landing each 1/1 and 1/2 which will be a bit misleading after bypassing those two parts where the snares starts landing on 2/4 continuously during the build up and the chorus itself. As that, they are supposed to be the downbeats with those "long white tick" everyone are used to call it. I do got a few people looked at this through case by case in-depth, but it seems like most people in common are siding on "it doesn't matter either way". Still, I insist that the current bpm and the beats of the song itself did not intertwine musically. Really, shouldn't the map reflect it and be near perfect to that at least? Low bpm songs aren't that boring to map in the first place though. I mean, you can possibly map 7star out of a 93bpm which is something not a problem if you haven't thought about it before. If that isn't one of your dispute, and about to say "because there's so many things going on man", then why is your BST not doubled? That song also has "things going on". And I never knew you'd do something quite differential here after that.

This kind of topic for doubled/halved BPM was also debated long ago if I remember correctly. But since that is in the past and already done for, I'd like to see the slight change of opinions on this present time about it. I'll continue to discuss after your response to this.

To people who loves interfering, this is between me and the mapper.

Edit: There are also general issues that looks pretty questionable that I've seemingly found in certain difficulties. Just after this converse, I'll point them out soon enough.

nextplay

976 posts

Joined December 2015

nextplay 2017-04-29T21:11:42+00:00

Cerulean Veyron wrote:
Before you're going to shout on me "but this part is 193bpm tho it fits llo", "the song downbeats are on this snap, i think current bpm is ok pls" or "other ppl and pro timers say it's fine hahahahaha". Since there is still time for this map to be looked on until reaching itself to the ranked listing; I don't seek a disqualification for this set unless in consideration or many things to overview. I demand answers and detailed reasons, and for that I shall commence discussion for once.

Recall this as: why the BPM is doubled just for the speed of sliders, or you might've misunderstood the music track. I already understand you by having your timing setup perfect, but honestly the BPM interpretation may not be. Just because using the current bpm for the 10% part of the song doesn't mean it should impeccably time such thing. Almost 3/4 of the song including the intro and choruses, all instruments like snares/claps and upbeats are snapped way dense over 1st and 3rd whereas it supposed to be on 2nd and 4th as usual to all K-pop songs. And this one is absolutely one of them. Technically the timing isn't wrong overall, but also isn't right.

As I told before, 96.5 is a valid BPM that will musically value both main and secondary tracks of the song rather than just for the two 00:50:480 -, 01:50:170 - parts that has its hi-hats landing each 1/1 and 1/2 which will be a bit misleading after bypassing those two parts where the snares starts landing on 2/4 continuously during the build up and the chorus itself. As that, they are supposed to be the downbeats with those "long white tick" everyone are used to call it. I do got a few people looked at this through case by case in-depth, but it seems like most people in common are siding on "it doesn't matter either way". Still, I insist that the current bpm and the beats of the song itself did not intertwine musically. Really, shouldn't the map reflect it and be near perfect to that at least? Low bpm songs aren't that boring to map in the first place though. I mean, you can possibly map 7star out of a 93bpm which is something not a problem if you haven't thought about it before. If that isn't one of your dispute, and about to say "because there's so many things going on man", then why is your BST not doubled? That song also has "things going on". And I never knew you'd do something quite differential here after that.

This kind of topic for doubled/halved BPM was also debated long ago if I remember correctly. But since that is in the past and already done for, I'd like to see the slight change of opinions on this present time about it. I'll continue to discuss after your response to this.

To people who loves interfering, this is between me and the mapper.

Edit: There are also general issues that looks pretty questionable that I've seemingly found in certain difficulties. Just after this converse, I'll point them out soon enough.

But this part is 193BPM tho it fits llo

Last edited by nextplay 2017-04-29T23:41:13+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Pachiru

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Pachiru 2017-04-29T23:19:22+00:00

My Angel Kanan wrote:
Cerulean Veyron wrote:
Before you're going to shout on me "but this part is 193bpm tho it fits llo"
But this part is 193BPM tho it fits lo

llo*

Pentori

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Joined November 2015

Pentori 2017-04-30T05:42:17+00:00

definitely sounds a lot more like 96.5 bpm
new measures start on 00:20:636 - 00:23:123 - 00:25:610 - etc. which is basically half of what your metronome is doing

also listen to where the snares land

DeRandom Otaku

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DeRandom Otaku 2017-04-30T10:25:31+00:00

Wait i thought we were clear on this since we already had a discussion about it on discord but i didnt know you were waiting for this exact moment. gg well played cv. Also i had a long conversation about the timing with MrSergio and someone else (i kinda forgot) before this map was even being pushed.

So basically, The song changes from half to double bpm multiple times. Such as its 193 at 00:10:688 - but then it goes half at 00:20:636 - then it goes double at 00:50:480 - and same happens throughout the whole song. The opinion i got from others is to keep one bpm throughout the whole song as theres no big need of changing it again and again because having a single bpm would be as fine as having variable bpm changes.On the other hand if i do put 96.5 throughout the whole map it will also sound wrong in the parts as well where the bpm is supposed to be 193 bpm. Having 96.5 or 193 effects not a single thing in game play. So yea, I was kinda unsure about using half or 193 bpm and then i went to Sergio for opinion and i relied upon his opinion and did what he advised me. i still have the log and here you can have it if you are interested http://puu.sh/vAOY1/fe75fce656.txt .

I still prefer to keep 193 tho since changing it to 96.5 wont result in a different game play experience and as i said above 96.5 does sound wrong in some parts also. Just like 193 bpm the half bpm has its downside.

Seaweed

359 posts

Joined November 2014

Seaweed 2017-04-30T11:13:16+00:00

Since Deppyforce is silenced currently, he can't post anything. I'll just post this for him here instead

hi why would u community fuckers always try do dq every single maps possible, some might say its for 'map will have the good ranked quality' but u keep making these useless fucking things then theres no point
as ren said, some parts like 00:50:480 - is clearly 193 but imo the whole song is actually 193 mainly bcuz this song is based on vocals more than instruments, sure u can said these claps thing should always land on upbeat
but music arent made out of 1 instrument only. tbh i dislike the idea of any maps like this that uses halved bpm cuz it makes literally no sense cuz clearly vocals fits better if this is 193
why would u have to keep switching bpm on certain parts/ whats the point exactly? when it will end up playing the same since no one would remake this after their map has been bubbled or qualified and got dq cuz this stupid bpm thing
even if u did time this by switching 96 and 193 at first before mapping, u wil have to make the map plays 'balanced' on both bpms anyways or u will make another drama out of it for the map being inconsistent
so in this case since it fits so it doesnt have to be fixed would be the best solution here. maps are meant to be played normally no ordinary player is supposed to look and complain about the halving and doubling bpm after they played the map anyways

if u time it to 193 it fits in both 193 and 96.5 parts
but if u time it to 96.5 it only fits on 96.5 and not on 193
again why would u make useless red lines when u can just make single timing point, its the safest of all

Doormat

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Joined September 2013

Doormat 2017-04-30T12:23:49+00:00

i hate to be that one guy, but how the fuck did you guys get this as 193 bpm? the musical structure of the song was designed to be 96.5. all instruments and vocals line up with a 96.5 bpm structure due to where the stresses in the music are. using double bpm "because it's fine" doesn't invalidate the fact that the bpm is wrong.

Mint

1,607 posts

Joined February 2013

Mint 2017-04-30T12:55:14+00:00

lmao https://songbpm.com/24k-superfly
jk

anyways, 96.5 and 193 is still a difference
might aswell change it to 386 then

cool song btw

- Frontier -

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Joined April 2014

- Frontier - 2017-04-30T13:20:11+00:00

bad ;(

maybe 1.93e+60 bpm?

Cerulean Veyron

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Joined August 2012

Cerulean Veyron 2017-04-30T13:52:16+00:00

@Deqqy, That is not the whole point at all, and this is not actually for adding more red timing points just because the beats per minute switches up from here to there or so, it's about the amount of proportion that literally most sections of the song are halved rather than doubled. And the mapper himself opposes that the instruments are forced sped-up over the vocals. I mean, if it's based on vocals more than the instruments, shouldn't vocals be like 193BPM too? There's nothing inconsistent or point in balancing on both BPM where you could make some easy fix by halving BPM and double the slider velocity to make it more official for most parts. And just in case I have the opportunity to ask, if it fits... how does it fit? I do want a better reason than "this bpm is fine cuz it fits" because that argument right now is egocentrically irrational. BPM is actually based on the song's beats and how it is played, not vocals. And quoting in case you don't know: "To people who loves interfering, this is between me and the mapper."

And for ren, taking someone's opinion doesn't support your dispute here. This is your map and you do changes over it whatever you like to, it's not theirs. That's why I only want your reasons from yourself alone. If you have a little bit of studies of music, you would probably say that 96.5BPM and 193BPM are not bad to use. But 96.5BPM is mostly preferred for most of the instrumental tracks (pretty much the vocals too, since you are basing over it through the whole set) around here and is definitely asking for it. As so, if you want to keep the current just because "it fits" without justifying something, why isn't vocals as fast as that? I don't really see any good reason behind this to get away with. As for that part you mentioned, 00:10:688 -. As far as I can clearly hear, the snares are still landing on 00:11:309 - 00:11:931 - 00:12:553 - as which should be pretty questionable. Moreover, the vocals aren't going haywire enough hearing through the start of it until 00:11:931 - where it is NOT exactly a new track/measure of the rhythm composition over the song considering those parts include as 96.5BPM. As a fact that for your argument "same happens throughout the whole song", it's obviously not. Though almost only a few parts could possibly be 193BPM, but that doesn't indulge using it on most parts that the claps/snares/kicks/whatever other instruments highlight itself to be a new track. Exactly the same explanation on the previous post. Which persists my case is still standing.

I highly demand a greater reason than "it fits" or "it's fine", because that clearly does not convince me or anyone against it. So my real question: Under what purpose you're keeping the double BPM to demonstrate the song's base rhythm exactly?

Seaweed

359 posts

Joined November 2014

Seaweed 2017-04-30T15:00:28+00:00

Messenger boy is back uwu

Cerulean Veyron wrote:
if it's based on vocals more than the instruments, shouldn't vocals be like 193BPM too?

vocals is 193bpm

Cerulean Veyron wrote:
easy fix by halving BPM and double the slider velocity to make it more official for most part

sure that works but easiest fix is to just keep it
http://puu.sh/vB2Mc/8885380ee4.png
just saying but ren told me to join this so i didnt interfere out of nowhere

http://puu.sh/vB2VP/f7ab483698.png so can u stop trying to force him to cahnge after he said no on p/5985012 already? ill stop making these uesless posts too

actually i made this post..

Irreversible

osu! Alumni

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Irreversible 2017-04-30T15:50:58+00:00

Hi, I'm taking down this map because the BPM appears to be doubled.

Additionally, I think the spread is poorly executed. The gap between Hyper and Insane seems too high than it could offer a proper difficulty for people around Insane level.

I'll give you some points to compare: 01:07:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Hyper: Has only 1/2, stacks, no real jumps. 01:07:890 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Insane: 1/4 and jumps.
Insane: 02:07:579 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - This is even more difficult.
If you compare, Hyper barely has any jumps, while the Insane has some really exhausting and jumps patterns, example: 03:07:268 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) -
You should definitely look into this again. Problem is that this difficulty is probably needed to justify the spread between Insane and Lit . . but it's not good that the spread on lower diffs is so even and spikes up heavily later on.

Hyper: 00:47:993 (5) - Missing NC.
Insane: 02:49:859 (1,2,3,4) - I suggest silencing all those kind of sliders in this part. Sounds cleaner this way..

Akitoshi

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Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-04-30T16:16:00+00:00

edit : nerfed spacing and some patterns now w
edit 2 : another nerf

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DeRandom Otaku

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DeRandom Otaku 2017-04-30T18:52:54+00:00

ok then . Stuff happened

I changed bpm to half and re-snapped everything in every difficulty.
Changes NC in hyper as irre pointed out. i found some inconsistent NCs myself and fixed them.
Changed the build-ups in hyper and made them a bit harder so that the spread is more smooth. I fixed it in a way that the spread is totally balanced now even without need akitoshi to change anything in insane.

Cerulean Veyron

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Cerulean Veyron 2017-04-30T20:01:57+00:00

Sigh, didn't ask for a dq to interpret the mapper to change stuffs that forcefully... But oh well, since the issue has finally been resolved, I'm able to briefly look over a few things on the set before you can continue the process and move the set forward to qualification. It won't take long.

Because of the rushed rebubble after you changed the offset of the timing some time ago, you've snapped everything in time correctly, but not the preview point? Sounds subjective to me, but it doesn't mean to neglect it.
You may wanna avoid this kind of inherited green points being unused next time, like this and that. Since there's no objects to make an effect for any purpose, try to keep your setup clean and well-used for hitsounding reasons. (The samples captured are in Firetruck's Normal difficulty, 00:10:377 - & 00:45:429 -. But there are literally more scuttled around in some other difficulties. You may try to find them all commonly on the first three difficulties.)
Following up the suggestion above, better not to create duplicates and overflood when you're already using the same sampleset or no changes over any adjustments.
On the LIT difficulty after the change of BPM, make sure all your notes are snapped correctly in beat: 01:08:822 (1) -, and 01:45:195 (1,2) - maybe(?).
On Hyper difficulty as it's freshly mapped with more 1/4s, some small jumps, and streams on the pre-chorus section... It's time you fill out those raw objects with hitsounds in order to be consistent with the whole set: 00:05:092 -, 00:18:149 -, 01:07:890 - , and so on.

Hmm well, that wasn't really hard changing the bpm after all~ I guess my "alternative option" worked perfectly!

So, after you applied (some of) the suggestions above, you may resume the process in ranking. Let's take it easy for now...

DeRandom Otaku

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DeRandom Otaku 2017-04-30T21:05:28+00:00

All Fixed!!!!
Sick mod!!

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2017-05-01T16:25:03+00:00

DeRandom Otaku wrote:
Changed the build-ups in hyper and made them a bit harder so that the spread is more smooth. I fixed it in a way that the spread is totally balanced now even without need akitoshi to change anything in insane.

I'm afraid, but honestly, the fix was actually very contraproductive. The star-rating got bumped by 0.2 because you've added 3 streams in the Hyper, and this is just not the way to go - the fix made the difficulty spike a lot in this place, and thus, nothing is "totally balanced". A stream of 8 in a difficulty like this is nowhere suitable. The best solution to me would be that you revert the change in Hyper and added another diff, which introduces the stream-part, as well as the amount of heavy jumps in the insane.

DeRandom Otaku

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DeRandom Otaku 2017-05-01T16:52:11+00:00

ye i realized i did it in the stupid way. I again did a slight change and pretty sure its fine now. Making another difficulty is way more than whats needed here tbh

Strategas

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Strategas 2017-05-01T17:01:23+00:00

you could just add some occasional jumps in hyper and it would be okay, rn it's kinda mapped like a hard diff with high spacing

riffy

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riffy 2017-05-01T17:05:30+00:00

We've had a bit of an IRC chat a few hours ago, and I actually felt quite okay about the spread.

IRC log

17:13 Bakari: send nudes
17:14 DeRandom Otaku: *nudes*
17:14 DeRandom Otaku: rip it doesnt even make it italic
17:16 Bakari: should i recheck the whole thing again?
17:16 DeRandom Otaku: well other then timing, theres no difference in the whole set
17:17 DeRandom Otaku: but guess you should prolly quick check snapping, in case i fucked up something
17:19 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1220667 24K - SUPERFLY [Easy]]
17:19 Bakari: nazi time
17:20 Bakari: 02:04:470 (4,1) - not blanketing, not actually symmetrical
17:20 Bakari: what made you place it this way?
17:20 Bakari: 02:07:579 (1) - also should be snapped to the blue tick
17:21 DeRandom Otaku: waoh fixed
17:21 DeRandom Otaku: well yea
17:21 Bakari: 02:47:372 (1) - spinner, snapping
17:22 DeRandom Otaku: all the spinners were on blue tick , then strate came and asked me to make them longer, since they are pretty short for an easy
17:23 Bakari: 03:06:024 (4,1,2) - stuff not symmetrical and not really blanketed. sure you wanna keep it?
17:23 Bakari: next time anyone asks you to make a spinner longer just for the sake of rankability, take a knife and start killing people
17:24 DeRandom Otaku: but i cant kill strate, he is bae
17:24 Bakari: the 1/4 thingy makes no difference. except for the spinner giving a completely random loud noise
17:24 DeRandom Otaku: yea correct
17:25 Bakari: 01:07:890 (1) - one more
17:25 DeRandom Otaku: pretty much fixed everything pointed out so far
17:26 Bakari: can you tesplay the intro one more time. preferably with hidden
17:26 DeRandom Otaku: Yep ok
17:26 Bakari: i just can't give up on this so easily
17:28 DeRandom Otaku: u dont have this map
17:28 DeRandom Otaku: rip
17:28 DeRandom Otaku: oh well
17:28 DeRandom Otaku: well i seriously dont think its wrong
17:28 DeRandom Otaku: i ss'd it easily btw
17:29 Bakari: mkaaay then
17:29 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1187597 24K - SUPERFLY [Firetruck's Normal]]
17:31 Bakari: 00:09:444 (4) - this thing kinda breaks the previous consistent rhyth. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7971482 how about stressing the red tick that is currently ignored?
17:31 DeRandom Otaku: firetruck is god
17:31 Bakari: also, all diffs should use the doubled tickrate
17:32 DeRandom Otaku: zz okay i guess i can fix for yet
17:32 DeRandom Otaku: oh right
17:33 DeRandom Otaku: ok fixed that
17:35 Bakari: 01:30:273 - delay the break, so that it'd start on the downbeat?
17:35 DeRandom Otaku: yes sir
17:35 DeRandom Otaku: delayed second break as well
17:36 Bakari: same stuff for the other break
17:36 Bakari: o, you are fast
17:36 DeRandom Otaku: yep
17:36 DeRandom Otaku: xd
17:36 Bakari: 02:00:118 (1,2) - guess blankets weren't meant to be here
17:37 DeRandom Otaku: i dont think so. guess she is trying to stack 02:00:739 (2,4) -
17:37 Bakari: 02:43:486 (3) - try a circle for 02:43:486 - and then a generic 1/2 slider?
17:37 DeRandom Otaku: yes
17:37 Bakari: she was sent to prison for a reason, I would doublecheck her intentions :^)
17:37 DeRandom Otaku: just a sec
17:38 DeRandom Otaku: Xd
17:39 DeRandom Otaku: okay fixed
17:39 Bakari: you mean you fixed firetruck?
17:39 Bakari: who needs prisons when we have Ren
17:40 Bakari: fixing people in just a few minutes <3
17:40 DeRandom Otaku: ;D
17:40 DeRandom Otaku: <33
17:40 DeRandom Otaku: i m gonna show dis to firetruck for sure lol
17:41 Bakari: best irc mod
17:41 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1183348 24K - SUPERFLY [NeoSL's Hard]]
17:41 Bakari: 00:15:040 (6) - 00:04:936 (5) - aren't these supposed to be similar?
17:42 DeRandom Otaku: aa i guess its good like it is
17:42 DeRandom Otaku: because 00:04:936 - this slider is for melody and 00:15:040 (6) - is for vocals
17:45 Bakari: 02:29:962 (1) - k, pretty inconsistent with the other two breaks
17:45 DeRandom Otaku: oh right
17:45 DeRandom Otaku: um
17:46 DeRandom Otaku: deleted it, consistent now
17:46 Bakari: 03:04:781 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hot ♥
17:46 Bakari: i have a thing for straight sliders
17:46 DeRandom Otaku: ay
17:46 Bakari: and not so straight boys
17:46 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1184884 24K - SUPERFLY [Hyper]]
17:46 DeRandom Otaku: weew
17:48 Bakari: 01:01:983 (2) - sure you don't wanna ctrl+g it?
17:49 Bakari: 01:04:159 (1,2,3) - you'll probably have to change this as well, if you do
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: kinda want to keep both as they are for variation purposes?
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: also
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: in case of 01:01:672 (1,2) -
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: 2 appears from half of 1
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: idk how to explain
17:50 DeRandom Otaku: guess u understand
17:51 DeRandom Otaku: but yea anyway , i fixed it
17:51 Bakari: 01:38:822 (1) - two circles since vocals are pretty intense on both of the beats?
17:52 Bakari: 01:54:523 (2) - see anything wrong with it?
17:52 DeRandom Otaku: not that intense, i even did slider on top diff
17:53 DeRandom Otaku: yes
17:53 DeRandom Otaku: ok fixed
17:53 Bakari: i just put it here to make the log look longer
17:54 DeRandom Otaku: lol
17:56 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1189431 24K - SUPERFLY [Akitoshi's Insane]]
17:56 DeRandom Otaku: ay
17:59 Bakari: 02:52:035 (5) - 01:57:009 (3) - they probably should use similar shapes
18:00 Bakari: 02:52:035 (5) - or this one shouldn't be extended at all
18:00 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1181126 24K - SUPERFLY [LIT]]
18:00 Bakari: remap pls
18:01 DeRandom Otaku: why do you think they should be difference? owo
18:01 DeRandom Otaku: song is totally different in both parts
18:01 DeRandom Otaku: and the slider is fine that way imo , because its better to have 02:52:657 (1) - clickable
18:02 DeRandom Otaku: and ye
18:02 Bakari: 02:52:346 - hear the sound peak here?
18:02 DeRandom Otaku: remapping brb
18:02 Bakari: i think there should be a curve to match that sound
18:02 DeRandom Otaku: oh wait
18:02 Bakari: https://bakarisu.s-ul.eu/HeHGZATx.jpg more like this
18:02 Bakari: rather than a plain arc
18:03 DeRandom Otaku: oh about that
18:03 DeRandom Otaku: i m p sure its intentional
18:03 DeRandom Otaku: because aki didnt want to emphasize that peak sound thing
18:03 Bakari: why tho
18:03 DeRandom Otaku: he is just following the melody sound only
18:04 Bakari: okay then
18:04 *Bakari is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1181126 24K - SUPERFLY [LIT]]
18:04 DeRandom Otaku: ye and i saw this been pointed out before z
18:04 Bakari: 00:45:196 (4,1) - so yeah, while you remap, you should probably use a 3/8 slider here
18:04 Bakari: or space them
18:05 DeRandom Otaku: oh yes
18:05 DeRandom Otaku: 3/8
18:05 Bakari: 00:52:346 (2,1) - this is also kinda confusing
18:05 DeRandom Otaku: not confusing anymore
18:07 Bakari: 02:59:496 (7,2) - stacks nazi department
18:07 Bakari: I'll recheck later this evening, gotta go now

I guess I'll let you two guys handle the discussion and discuss things, I'll hold the rebubble for some time.

DeRandom Otaku

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DeRandom Otaku 2017-05-01T18:16:57+00:00

Alrighty , so me and akitoshi bot did some changes in hyper and insane. Spread should be fine now

riffy

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riffy 2017-05-03T08:29:17+00:00